law / Welp. Emergency episode. Biden drops out

I know, sorry didn't mean to imply you were! It was just a funny moment. I expect hot takes from certain other places but not OA so it just scared me for 0.1 of a second until I realised 😅

Jess C

2024-07-23 04:43:56 +0000 UTC

The short answer is that you either have to prove past persecution on those grounds (which gives rise to a rebuttable presumption of future persecution) or prove the likelihood of future persecution in the absence of past persecution, usually but not always based on changed circumstances

Matt Cameron

2024-07-22 16:42:15 +0000 UTC

Honestly after surveying what they are signaling the possible bases for these suits might be I felt pretty comfortable concluding yesterday that there is really no good faith challenge to be had which could actually rise to the level of an injunction keeping the nominee off the ballot in any state but certainly will be ready to take a look at anything that resembles a viable challenge if I am wrong on this!

Matt Cameron

2024-07-22 16:39:51 +0000 UTC

Lol I promise I wasn't actually saying that seriously, more just in the interest of surveying the infinite universe of possibilities in these strangest of times

Matt Cameron

2024-07-22 16:36:23 +0000 UTC

And his incredible wife, Gabby Giffords. Most impressive power couple in DC.

Austin Flake

2024-07-22 12:36:53 +0000 UTC

The measure is whether she's popular enough to get elected, not whether she did well (or not) given the circumstances. I don't think there's likely to be a strong relationship between the latter and the former.

Jo Pearson

2024-07-22 10:36:55 +0000 UTC

Matt please, I almost popped a vein in my temple when you said Oprah should be the nominee 😅 David Plotts, host of the Political Gabfest seriously suggested that prior to 2020 and I got so mad I unsubscribed and sent an angry email. I am still mad that's a thing I heard someone say sincerely 🥲 Anyways thanks for the great ep, cleared up so much!

Jess C

2024-07-22 09:04:10 +0000 UTC

Biden seems to be in a place where he's having some off days here and there. Maybe worse but that's the charitable position (which I'm happy to take until proven otherwise). I feel like you can continue being president in that state for 6 months (3 of which are lame duck months). But years out is much more questionable.

Apprentice57

2024-07-22 06:23:17 +0000 UTC

Rs have the house... There won't be any legislation. There are executive orders but Trump can easily reverse those

Matthew Williams

2024-07-22 04:34:01 +0000 UTC

By all reports it isn't -- but that's not the point. The point is that it's an opportunity to flip the narrative. Secretaries of states in Republican counties can use it as a justification for misprinting ballots with Biden on them. Then, we are forced to use the legal system to make them comply with reality. We're already seeing it in their rhetoric. Prior to all the shenanigans we saw last time I wouldn't even consider it, but now? Now they can take what they've learned from Trump's trials (stall stall stall, Appeal to the supreme court) and apply it. Hopefully the response from Matt would be "We get an immediate appeal that the SC will immediately issue an injunction before the vote" -- I'm just concerned there's a window for chaos here and what happens if we don't intercept it _before_ election day. What's the process for a redo on election day in that scenario?

Nick from England

2024-07-22 04:16:25 +0000 UTC

Months ago, progressives were saying SCOTUS will never recognize immunity because that detracts from their power. They no longer think decent legacy. Should we fear that every SCOTUS decision from here on out will be just keeping their necks off the gallows if the next Jan 6 succeeds?

We can feed everybody

2024-07-22 03:57:26 +0000 UTC

I’ve heard there will be issues in some states for the general election ballot because of some states rules regarding their primaries. Can you calm my fears that we just handed this election to the Supreme Court to decide?

Benjamin Ficker

2024-07-22 03:30:29 +0000 UTC

They already own the court for the foreseeable future. They don’t want court expansion to be a thing, as Democrats would just do it again when they got power.

Buck

2024-07-22 03:21:11 +0000 UTC

Yes! He has been great for NC, AND since he can't run again due to term limits, we wouldn't be losing him. I just hope the fascist shitstain that is Mark Robinson doesn't win.

Deanna T.

2024-07-22 03:02:56 +0000 UTC

I’d have to look into Mark Kelly’s performance to date, but having an astronaut on the ticket would impress some people I think. Lean into support for science..

Steve Whitcher

2024-07-22 03:01:29 +0000 UTC

We haven’t seen a lot of her, but when I have seen her appearances I thought she came off quite well. I feel like that’s pretty standard though, the VP doesn’t get the spotlight, at least not until well into their second term when they are expected to run at the top of the ticket next. Is there a VP under a first term President that you think did better than what she has?

Steve Whitcher

2024-07-22 02:58:53 +0000 UTC

Its nothing more than a prediction based on my sense of where the wider public stands. We've had a long enough time with Kamala. For a high-level politician she has been remarkarably lacking in charisma and notable influence. As for racism/sexism, obviously that will always be a factor in American politics. But knowing it exists and factoring it in is not 'bowing' to racism. Obama was easily the favourite despite his race (true both times). Meanwhile I thought Hilary was a narrow favourite in 2016 (close). Indeed if anything Kamala's race and sex might be a net bonus to help shore up soft support among the base among women and black americans. But that doesn't make Kamala any better of a politician. She has time to change my mind, but I'm not going to pretend she's a blank slate whom we know nothing about.

Jo Pearson

2024-07-22 02:29:44 +0000 UTC

I’m ready to fall out of the coconut tree guys. I’m Harris-pilled

Kelley

2024-07-22 02:05:43 +0000 UTC

I mean, you could also blame Biden for flipping on his initial plan for 1 term; or his aides for suggesting he should run again (or pushing him to) when they knew he was already on the senility swing. He /should/ have not been running from a year ago

I am a philosophical hole

2024-07-22 02:03:09 +0000 UTC

Given the RNC only confirmed their candidates last week, how in the world could it be too late today?

I am a philosophical hole

2024-07-22 01:57:25 +0000 UTC

I don't understand how you can claim Harris hasn't got the chances, after she hasn't campaigned for herself at all due to being under a unity ticket with Biden? Or is this bowing to the race/sexism?

I am a philosophical hole

2024-07-22 01:55:20 +0000 UTC

I just heard something last week about expanding the court. What-if anything-can be done along these lines prior to the election?

Murcury Vapor

2024-07-22 01:18:28 +0000 UTC

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it

Jeanie Jean Jean

2024-07-22 01:16:17 +0000 UTC

Because she can be full time on campaign if he sticks it out.

Ryan Kovaleski

2024-07-22 00:41:37 +0000 UTC

Continuing to be president for the new few months is very different than being president for the next 4.5 years.

LipstickLumberjack

2024-07-22 00:31:33 +0000 UTC

Mike Johnson was talking about exactly that last week.

Peter Marchetti

2024-07-22 00:08:01 +0000 UTC

If Biden isn't fit to run, why shouldn't he also resign and allow Harris to be sworn in?

Peter Marchetti

2024-07-22 00:07:21 +0000 UTC

My "Bad leftist takes" friend tells me that she Sent Parents to Prison for truant kids. And that having been a Prosecutor makes her a COP and ACAB

ADHDProgrammer

2024-07-21 23:52:59 +0000 UTC

I am conserned that this will open some sort of hole that will let SCOTUS declare that neither Biden not Harris are actual proper candidates any more, and the Trump wins by default.

ADHDProgrammer

2024-07-21 23:49:10 +0000 UTC

These things can exist together. It's going to be an open convention, but it seems like Harris is going to have a lot of support. Biden endorsing her doesn't prevent someone else from putting their hat in the ring and winning

Bear The Bull

2024-07-21 23:40:27 +0000 UTC

I know this is some kind of Sorkin-esque fantasy land thinking, but how great would it be if outgoing President Biden were to wait until Congress adjourns after the election but before the new one is sworn in, and then makes three recess appointments to the SCOTUS? Bonus points if he uses his powers under Article 2 Section 3 to force Congress to adjourn early so he can do it.

Congress- the opposite of PROgress

2024-07-21 23:32:23 +0000 UTC

Now that Joe has dropped out, how should we feel about how we were gaslight about his condition?

Steve S

2024-07-21 23:29:58 +0000 UTC

I feel like those slamming the move on the whole underestimate how pervasive the concerns about Biden's mental acuity are on the right. Living among (small-c) conservative folks and swing voters here in the UK (which is heavily influenced by the US right) Biden's mental decline has memetic status, and its not even the right country. That's a terrible sign. I don't think Harris has much of a chance of winning, but she might limit losses. Best option for the Dems in my book is to go for someone like Gavin Newsom.

Jo Pearson

2024-07-21 23:25:36 +0000 UTC

Ok here's my weird worry that I'm hoping someone can help with. The democrats have been talking about expanding the Supreme Court a lot. They've even provided the somewhat decent justification of saying that there used to be 9 circuits and 9 judges. Now there are 12 circuits and so there should be 12 judges. If trump wins he could act all bipartisan and say 'I've been listening to the dems and agree with their logic. Let's expand the court' and then add 3 judges. What would the democrats say? 'But WE wanted to nominate the judges. Trump could be extra diabolical and offer one of the three nominees to be nominated by the democrats. Anyway, just my fear I needed to get out there

Jordan Norman

2024-07-21 23:22:34 +0000 UTC

What the others said, and even if you assume the presidency is lost this move gives Dems their best shot at taking back the House and holding the Senate in order to limit the impact of Project 2025.

Congress- the opposite of PROgress

2024-07-21 23:20:03 +0000 UTC

She was never a fed. She was a city attorney, then DA of San Francisco under Gavin Newsom, then she got elected as Attorney General of California. Not that it makes much difference, especially since she had a record of being very tough on the homeless in San Francisco when she was DA. On the other hand, that might help turn out moderate Dems and swing voters.

Congress- the opposite of PROgress

2024-07-21 23:15:10 +0000 UTC

Campaign finance considerations for Harris vs anyone else.

Probably a real person

2024-07-21 23:13:08 +0000 UTC

Ohio filing deadline

Probably a real person

2024-07-21 23:11:29 +0000 UTC

From a legal perspective: we saw last time that the right wing has no issues trying to stall the election process in the courts, fortunately with little success. But can they flip the narrative now? What if a Republican state simply says "replacing a candidate now is illegal" and continues to print Biden on the ballot? Could they block the new nominee this way? Would we have to find a remedy in the courts? Call me paranoid...

Nick from England

2024-07-21 23:01:04 +0000 UTC

Mark Kelly for VP!

fran reichenbach

2024-07-21 22:57:01 +0000 UTC

Can Biden use his last months to make SCOTUS reform or would that taint (he he!) Kamala’s efforts on the campaign trail? And can she enjoy and, can he use presidential immunity as Kamala can consider once elected? Bet Trump and his followers in the Supreme Court didn’t count on that!

fran reichenbach

2024-07-21 22:56:30 +0000 UTC

I’d like to see a pro/con for Harris’s potential running mates. What does each bring to the table for enhancing the electability of the ticket? Along those same lines, what candidates that many here would love to see picked do to hurt the ticket?

Pete Day

2024-07-21 22:38:03 +0000 UTC

It can be a senator from a blue state. The governor would just fill the seat.

Pete Day

2024-07-21 22:35:29 +0000 UTC

Related: Are any of these challenges likely to make it to the Supreme Court?

Patrick Bracken

2024-07-21 22:35:06 +0000 UTC

Before you mention the possible VPs, please consider the states they represent and who their theoretical replacements could politically be. Best examples are Mark Kelly (AZ) and Andy Beshear (KY).

Austin Flake

2024-07-21 22:16:01 +0000 UTC

There's been a lot of speculation Republicans could throw wrenches in any process of changing nominees with (probably spurious) legal challenges. Would they have any legal basis for doing that? What are they likely to try?

Sam

2024-07-21 21:58:12 +0000 UTC

So, I would actually caution waiting until maybe Wednesday to do the emergency episode (even if it means delaying T3BE again), considering it looks like there are already going to be some legal challenges to Biden dropping out, so it might be better to have something more substantive to analyze, since we already know the suits are planning to be filed.

Mr. Wilt

2024-07-21 21:53:20 +0000 UTC

Iirc you donate separately to candidates for primary and for general. But also Republicans insist laws don't exist. And the deadlocked election commission can't do anything anyway.

Josh Crowe

2024-07-21 21:51:20 +0000 UTC

An interesting circumstance though, how “lame duck” is he when the most likely candidate for his party is his current VP? Everything he does will still surely reflect on Harris.

Nathaniel Field

2024-07-21 21:34:24 +0000 UTC

I'd just like to here some positive impression, among the realistic woe. So I wasn't calling for Biden to drop out, but now that he has I'm not worried. IMO No one was voting Dem because they loved Biden's vibes. People will vote for the 60 year old over the 80 year old.

Jon C

2024-07-21 21:32:41 +0000 UTC

The folks who were going to stay home because of Biden's support for Israel are unlikely to vote for a former federal prosecutor either, unfortunately.

cwoodfield

2024-07-21 21:28:41 +0000 UTC

Yes, I specifically meant the politicians and celebrities who put out statements (officially or unofficially) calling for him to withdraw.

Steve Whitcher

2024-07-21 21:24:25 +0000 UTC

Narcissistic white-privileged jackals pushed the white-privileged guy out to make way for the woman of color??

I let one slip on my first opening statement and it was silent but deadly minus the silent.

2024-07-21 21:21:12 +0000 UTC

How do I help my American friends get out before the war starts? I’m not joking.

Mockingbird Nation

2024-07-21 21:19:10 +0000 UTC

I get that. And in two weeks you'll be wringing your hands over whatever issue the GOP tells you is an issue. And the next candidate. It's a pretty obvious pattern that always leads to the conclusion that we should have nominated someone the GOP couldn't have attacked.

Gmork

2024-07-21 21:18:05 +0000 UTC

... Did not know... Just got in to say wow

Maria Kladaki

2024-07-21 21:07:59 +0000 UTC

Until scotus makes something up

Jeanie Jean Jean

2024-07-21 21:06:57 +0000 UTC

Is a second term for Jimmy Carter the twist ending that no one saw coming?

Michael Morrisson

2024-07-21 21:06:26 +0000 UTC

I thought you meant Dems in general, but it sounds more like you meant the politicians. Fair enough, sorry for the misunderstanding. "Too late for being productive" is defeatist af, though. If the bad guy wins, it becomes about being productive in preventing him from enacting his agenda.

Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!

2024-07-21 21:03:56 +0000 UTC

Harris could start her term by pardoning hunter

KeepingThePlatesSpinning

2024-07-21 21:01:57 +0000 UTC

Everyone could see Biden's age was an issue. Trying to hand wave over that played into GOP narrative more than replacing him. Media elite trying to tell you what is reality.

oh good what luck

2024-07-21 21:01:41 +0000 UTC

Are there any states that won't allow him on the ballot based on this shift?

The Kochay

2024-07-21 20:57:42 +0000 UTC

Roy Cooper

Maytree

2024-07-21 20:56:48 +0000 UTC

Considering that I had no influence on the decision one way or the other, that would seem rather silly. But, blame isn’t about productivity. Once the election is over (if trump wins), it’s too late for being productive.

Steve Whitcher

2024-07-21 20:55:59 +0000 UTC

I think Gavin Newsom probably has the best name recognition and record of any of the names I've heard so far (and he gets big points for firing one of the first shots in the effort to legalize gay marriage when he was SF's mayor), but you're right that given he and Harris are both from CA, the geographical reach does not work in his favor.

cwoodfield

2024-07-21 20:55:59 +0000 UTC

And doomers.

Philly Basement Bar is back open, and isn't taking this shit lying down.

2024-07-21 20:54:34 +0000 UTC

Legally, there's no nominee yet. Not til the convention.

Philly Basement Bar is back open, and isn't taking this shit lying down.

2024-07-21 20:53:02 +0000 UTC

Election Registration Deadlines - We've clearly passed the primary deadlines but are there other statutory deadlines for the general election registration? Is there a chance that the Dem nominee is too late to register in a state?

Shad Riley

2024-07-21 20:52:59 +0000 UTC

"It's utterly futile and any thinking person knows this." No, lots of thinking people have looked at the situation and come to a different conclusion.

Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!

2024-07-21 20:48:37 +0000 UTC

Beshear should be a strong contender, and since he's term limited there's no significant value in keeping him in office. Josh Shapiro is another strong contender.

Viktor Arthuis

2024-07-21 20:46:47 +0000 UTC

Pardon Hunter, AND his laptop?

Bob Cobourn

2024-07-21 20:46:47 +0000 UTC

How should Biden use his new presidential immunity powers as a lane duck? Is there room in Guantanamo for a few Trumps and some Supreme Court justices?

Bob Cobourn

2024-07-21 20:46:25 +0000 UTC

If Biden had stayed in and lost, how productive would it feel for people to blame you for Trump winning?

Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!

2024-07-21 20:46:00 +0000 UTC

Marc Elias addressed this on Twitter the moment he dropped out, saying that there's no actual legal basis for keeping a Democratic nominee out of elections.

Viktor Arthuis

2024-07-21 20:45:12 +0000 UTC

I heard talk of possible legal challenges - what could they possibly be? I can't see who could have standing. There must be a mechanism for a candidate to withdraw after the primaries if they wish to do so.

Liam Child

2024-07-21 20:43:43 +0000 UTC

Arizona has a democratic governor, so Mark Kelly is a safe pick. Personally I'd like to see Scott Kelly appointed to replace him. 😅

Bob Cobourn

2024-07-21 20:43:06 +0000 UTC

Whitmer

Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!

2024-07-21 20:41:57 +0000 UTC

To seek asylum in a country on religious or persecution based on sexual orientation or a disability grounds does the act have to be ongoing or can or just be imminent?

Autistic Dilettante

2024-07-21 20:41:31 +0000 UTC

What do you think the odds are that Harris can win the votes of white male blue collar workers age 50+ in the swing states? How likely do you think it is that the votes she'll lose in that demographic will be sufficiently counterbalanced by gains elsewhere in the critical states?

Maytree

2024-07-21 20:41:24 +0000 UTC

This seems like a really bad move. If Trump wins again, I will absolutely blame all of the democrats that forced Biden into this.

Steve Whitcher

2024-07-21 20:39:57 +0000 UTC

My hope for VP is Gretchen Whitmer. She'd help with the Midwest. I wouldn't be disappointed if she went with Kelly, but I think they should double down on women. Focus messaging on how voting for Trump is voting against women. If the country is going to elect Trump again, I want us to go down swinging haha.

Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!

2024-07-21 20:39:20 +0000 UTC

How about she picks Joe Biden? I hear he’s got some free time now.

Mike

2024-07-21 20:37:49 +0000 UTC

Good point.

Libby Arnold

2024-07-21 20:37:25 +0000 UTC

It can’t be a senator, we’d risk losing our majority. How about Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers? He’s a little old though, and as always, pulling people from swing states is an issue.

Mike

2024-07-21 20:36:46 +0000 UTC

Absolute insanity. Stupidest move in the history of stupid self destructive moves. I don’t need Any lectures about how it’s time to rally around Harris. I’ll vote and contribute and all the rest. But it’s utterly futile and any thinking person knows this. She has zero chance of winning. 0000. I also have to spend my time and money preparing for the fascist hell scape we are all about to descend into thanks to whatever pack of stupid ass narcissistic, self-absorbed white privileged jackals that pushed Biden out of this race. Anybody who’s not white, not Rich, not straight, we are screwed. Anybody that dithered around telling Biden should get out of race. You just screwed all of us. Kiss all of your friends goodbye that are not just like you. We won’t be around for long - you have killed us.

Jennifer Barrett

2024-07-21 20:35:49 +0000 UTC

Let's vote for vice president pick! Beto? Buttigieg? Other?

I irradiate children.

2024-07-21 20:35:31 +0000 UTC

Can you discuss the implications of the Biden/Harris Super PAC money can only be spent if Harris is the candidate.

YakkoWarner

2024-07-21 20:34:43 +0000 UTC

What are the best reasons to get EXCITED about Harris as candidate? Good talking points for independents in our life

Vibrators for all

2024-07-21 20:34:38 +0000 UTC

How to we shift the focus to positive aspect and not just the negative aspect beating Trump? Can we inspire disillusioned voters to turn out now?

Dr. Clerk

2024-07-21 20:33:19 +0000 UTC

What parts of Kamala’s record are most likely going to be used against her? Will the GOP even bother to go into her record, or will they just hammer her for being a “DEI candidate?”

James Linscheid

2024-07-21 20:33:09 +0000 UTC

How do the Dems avoid a repeat of 1968? Can they?

Jeanie Jean Jean

2024-07-21 20:31:47 +0000 UTC

Thank you listener Lydia S!

KeepingThePlatesSpinning

2024-07-21 20:29:49 +0000 UTC

With Harris being the nominee, do you think this will hurt the black vote given her past as an AG?

Aminah

2024-07-21 20:29:26 +0000 UTC

I really like this line of thinking.

Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!

2024-07-21 20:27:27 +0000 UTC

Thank you for this much needed laugh in the middle of my existential fear 😄

Twas Brillig And The Slithy Toves Did Gyre And Gimble In The Wabe All Mimsy Were The Borogoves And The Mome Raths Outgabe

2024-07-21 20:27:09 +0000 UTC

How does inheriting the campaign funds interact with people who already donated to Biden donating to Harris now?

Sean McCarthy

2024-07-21 20:26:47 +0000 UTC

What fatal flaw will the GOP assign to Harris, and how long until the same people are pushing her to step down bc said flaw means she can't possibly win? Bonus points for answering the same questions re whoever comes after her.

Gmork

2024-07-21 20:26:39 +0000 UTC

Is Kamala Harris being endorsed because it is the done thing to endorse the VP? Or could Biden/the Democrats have chosen someone other than her?

Sally Horler-Lau

2024-07-21 20:25:30 +0000 UTC

I hate to say it but vp Harris needs a geographically advantageous white guy that’s not progressive to beat trump. I think mark Kelly would be a good choice. It has to be someone that can help in the Midwest and south.

Libby Arnold

2024-07-21 20:25:24 +0000 UTC

What do you think currently about Harris as a potential president (not as a candidate - way too much political coverage is speculating about electability aka what other people think)?

Sean McCarthy

2024-07-21 20:25:16 +0000 UTC

Open convention is a great way for people to scream "do the primaries not mean anything! What about the will of the people!" Nancy needs to run in a primary or STFU

WhySatan

2024-07-21 20:25:03 +0000 UTC

Do the red states most likely to at least try to keep Harris off the ballot allow write-ins?

Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!

2024-07-21 20:24:28 +0000 UTC

I'm curious if the party will be united from the outset on his replacement or if we'll see a contest between multiple people throwing their hats in the ring

Katie Stephan

2024-07-21 20:23:31 +0000 UTC

Right after the bad debate performance when the convo about replacing Biden really flared up, I remember reading that there would be a legal issue with getting another candidate on the ballot in certain states (including some critical swing states) due to deadlines and state specific rules about what candidates can go on the ballot based on primary results. I have to assume this is something the Dem party has an answer to, but what might that answer be? Is putting another candidate on the ballots going to be an issue or is that an overblown concern?

GavinNewsomMetalBonesTruth

2024-07-21 20:23:22 +0000 UTC

My partner wondered if there are super pac rules re: funds going to the specific people, i.e. can only Harris use them.

Katie Stephan

2024-07-21 20:22:27 +0000 UTC

Is this bad? Did this hand Trump the presidency? It feels dumb, but this is where we are.

Wishing every Clarence Thomas a very God rest his soul

2024-07-21 20:22:26 +0000 UTC

Going over the campaign funds rules in regards to the Biden/ Harris $100mil war chest

Matt Miller

2024-07-21 20:22:10 +0000 UTC

I thank the President for this truly selfless act. To Matt, Marc Elias stated on Twitter that the GOP cannot really mess with Kamala’s candidacy. What do you think? https://x.com/marceelias/status/1815089795728622009?s=46

Kate

2024-07-21 20:22:05 +0000 UTC

What can he do for the next five months since he's gonna be focusing on legislation, What can he do to make sure that Trump can't completely destroy the country if he wins?

NSaneAtheist

2024-07-21 20:21:55 +0000 UTC

Considering the timing of this announcement, do you think there is a path that has already been laid out come the convention regarding candidates? President Biden endorsed Kamala Harris but I’ve also heard Nancy Pelosi may want an open convention. If that happens, who do you think could end up as the nominee and VP pick?

FearlessFighter

2024-07-21 20:21:37 +0000 UTC

Breakdown of concerns over Ohio's electoral votes supposedly being lost if the nomination isn't made like, this week? I've heard this was not the case because of an emergency amendment to the law?

ToddTheOdd

2024-07-21 20:21:28 +0000 UTC

Do you have to be 35 at the nomination or just when sworn in?

Melissa Hall

2024-07-21 20:20:56 +0000 UTC

How concerning is the ballot finalization deadline change in Ohio based on any existing legal precedent?

Nathaniel Field

2024-07-21 20:20:55 +0000 UTC

Is there a chance the new candidate can be excluded from the ballot of any given state?

Argle bargle, claptrap and jibber-jabber

2024-07-21 20:20:39 +0000 UTC

How will the nominee be decided?

Another Minneapolitian

2024-07-21 20:20:34 +0000 UTC

Jk lol

Lydia Smith

2024-07-21 20:20:29 +0000 UTC

How easily can Harris inherit the campaign funds?

Vehicular Man's Laughter ... Oh I just realized it's 'car' from WTW ... he's so good at Codenames he can play it blind

2024-07-21 20:20:28 +0000 UTC

How does this work with ballot deadlines in the states?

Heather Law

2024-07-21 20:20:28 +0000 UTC

Any significance that Uncle Joe announced this on National Ice Cream Day?

Lydia Smith

2024-07-21 20:20:25 +0000 UTC

An explainer of the DNC delegate rules would be great

Audrey Arnett

2024-07-21 20:20:05 +0000 UTC

Welp. Emergency episode. Biden drops out

Comments

I know, sorry didn't mean to imply you were! It was just a funny moment. I expect hot takes from certain other places but not OA so it just scared me for 0.1 of a second until I realised 😅

The short answer is that you either have to prove past persecution on those grounds (which gives rise to a rebuttable presumption of future persecution) or prove the likelihood of future persecution in the absence of past persecution, usually but not always based on changed circumstances

Lol I promise I wasn't actually saying that seriously, more just in the interest of surveying the infinite universe of possibilities in these strangest of times

And his incredible wife, Gabby Giffords. Most impressive power couple in DC.

The measure is whether she's popular enough to get elected, not whether she did well (or not) given the circumstances. I don't think there's likely to be a strong relationship between the latter and the former.

Rs have the house... There won't be any legislation. There are executive orders but Trump can easily reverse those

Months ago, progressives were saying SCOTUS will never recognize immunity because that detracts from their power. They no longer think decent legacy. Should we fear that every SCOTUS decision from here on out will be just keeping their necks off the gallows if the next Jan 6 succeeds?

I’ve heard there will be issues in some states for the general election ballot because of some states rules regarding their primaries. Can you calm my fears that we just handed this election to the Supreme Court to decide?

They already own the court for the foreseeable future. They don’t want court expansion to be a thing, as Democrats would just do it again when they got power.

Yes! He has been great for NC, AND since he can't run again due to term limits, we wouldn't be losing him. I just hope the fascist shitstain that is Mark Robinson doesn't win.

I’d have to look into Mark Kelly’s performance to date, but having an astronaut on the ticket would impress some people I think. Lean into support for science..

I’m ready to fall out of the coconut tree guys. I’m Harris-pilled

I mean, you could also blame Biden for flipping on his initial plan for 1 term; or his aides for suggesting he should run again (or pushing him to) when they knew he was already on the senility swing. He /should/ have not been running from a year ago

Given the RNC only confirmed their candidates last week, how in the world could it be too late today?

I don't understand how you can claim Harris hasn't got the chances, after she hasn't campaigned for herself at all due to being under a unity ticket with Biden? Or is this bowing to the race/sexism?

I just heard something last week about expanding the court. What-if anything-can be done along these lines prior to the election?

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it

Because she can be full time on campaign if he sticks it out.

Continuing to be president for the new few months is very different than being president for the next 4.5 years.

Mike Johnson was talking about exactly that last week.

If Biden isn't fit to run, why shouldn't he also resign and allow Harris to be sworn in?

My "Bad leftist takes" friend tells me that she Sent Parents to Prison for truant kids. And that having been a Prosecutor makes her a COP and ACAB

I am conserned that this will open some sort of hole that will let SCOTUS declare that neither Biden not Harris are actual proper candidates any more, and the Trump wins by default.

These things can exist together. It's going to be an open convention, but it seems like Harris is going to have a lot of support. Biden endorsing her doesn't prevent someone else from putting their hat in the ring and winning

Now that Joe has dropped out, how should we feel about how we were gaslight about his condition?

What the others said, *and* even if you assume the presidency is lost this move gives Dems their best shot at taking back the House and holding the Senate in order to limit the impact of Project 2025.

Campaign finance considerations for Harris vs anyone else.

Ohio filing deadline

Mark Kelly for VP!

Can Biden use his last months to make SCOTUS reform or would that taint (he he!) Kamala’s efforts on the campaign trail? And can she enjoy and, can he use presidential immunity as Kamala can consider once elected? Bet Trump and his followers in the Supreme Court didn’t count on that!

I’d like to see a pro/con for Harris’s potential running mates. What does each bring to the table for enhancing the electability of the ticket? Along those same lines, what candidates that many here would love to see picked do to hurt the ticket?

It can be a senator from a blue state. The governor would just fill the seat.

Related: Are any of these challenges likely to make it to the Supreme Court?

Before you mention the possible VPs, please consider the states they represent and who their theoretical replacements could politically be. Best examples are Mark Kelly (AZ) and Andy Beshear (KY).

There's been a lot of speculation Republicans could throw wrenches in any process of changing nominees with (probably spurious) legal challenges. Would they have any legal basis for doing that? What are they likely to try?

Iirc you donate separately to candidates for primary and for general. But also Republicans insist laws don't exist. And the deadlocked election commission can't do anything anyway.

An interesting circumstance though, how “lame duck” is he when the most likely candidate for his party is his current VP? Everything he does will still surely reflect on Harris.

I'd just like to here some positive impression, among the realistic woe. So I wasn't calling for Biden to drop out, but now that he has I'm not worried. IMO No one was voting Dem because they loved Biden's vibes. People *will* vote for the 60 year old over the 80 year old.

The folks who were going to stay home because of Biden's support for Israel are unlikely to vote for a former federal prosecutor either, unfortunately.

Yes, I specifically meant the politicians and celebrities who put out statements (officially or unofficially) calling for him to withdraw.

Narcissistic white-privileged jackals pushed the white-privileged guy out to make way for the woman of color??

How do I help my American friends get out before the war starts? I’m not joking.

I get that. And in two weeks you'll be wringing your hands over whatever issue the GOP tells you is an issue. And the next candidate. It's a pretty obvious pattern that always leads to the conclusion that we should have nominated someone the GOP couldn't have attacked.

... Did not know... Just got in to say wow

Until scotus makes something up

Is a second term for Jimmy Carter the twist ending that no one saw coming?

I thought you meant Dems in general, but it sounds more like you meant the politicians. Fair enough, sorry for the misunderstanding. "Too late for being productive" is defeatist af, though. If the bad guy wins, it becomes about being productive in preventing him from enacting his agenda.

Harris could start her term by pardoning hunter

Everyone could see Biden's age was an issue. Trying to hand wave over that played into GOP narrative more than replacing him. Media elite trying to tell you what is reality.

Are there any states that won't allow him on the ballot based on this shift?

Roy Cooper

Considering that I had no influence on the decision one way or the other, that would seem rather silly. But, blame isn’t about productivity. Once the election is over (if trump wins), it’s too late for being productive.

And doomers.

Legally, there's no nominee yet. Not til the convention.

Election Registration Deadlines - We've clearly passed the primary deadlines but are there other statutory deadlines for the general election registration? Is there a chance that the Dem nominee is too late to register in a state?

"It's utterly futile and any thinking person knows this." No, lots of thinking people have looked at the situation and come to a different conclusion.

Beshear should be a strong contender, and since he's term limited there's no significant value in keeping him in office. Josh Shapiro is another strong contender.

Pardon Hunter, AND his laptop?

How should Biden use his new presidential immunity powers as a lane duck? Is there room in Guantanamo for a few Trumps and some Supreme Court justices?

If Biden had stayed in and lost, how productive would it feel for people to blame you for Trump winning?

Marc Elias addressed this on Twitter the moment he dropped out, saying that there's no actual legal basis for keeping a Democratic nominee out of elections.

I heard talk of possible legal challenges - what could they possibly be? I can't see who could have standing. There must be a mechanism for a candidate to withdraw after the primaries if they wish to do so.

Arizona has a democratic governor, so Mark Kelly is a safe pick. Personally I'd like to see Scott Kelly appointed to replace him. 😅

Whitmer

To seek asylum in a country on religious or persecution based on sexual orientation or a disability grounds does the act have to be ongoing or can or just be imminent?

What do you think the odds are that Harris can win the votes of white male blue collar workers age 50+ in the swing states? How likely do you think it is that the votes she'll lose in that demographic will be sufficiently counterbalanced by gains elsewhere in the critical states?

This seems like a really bad move. If Trump wins again, I will absolutely blame all of the democrats that forced Biden into this.

How about she picks Joe Biden? I hear he’s got some free time now.

Good point.

It can’t be a senator, we’d risk losing our majority. How about Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers? He’s a little old though, and as always, pulling people from swing states is an issue.

Let's vote for vice president pick! Beto? Buttigieg? Other?

Can you discuss the implications of the Biden/Harris Super PAC money can only be spent if Harris is the candidate.

What are the best reasons to get EXCITED about Harris as candidate? Good talking points for independents in our life

How to we shift the focus to positive aspect and not just the negative aspect beating Trump? Can we inspire disillusioned voters to turn out now?

What parts of Kamala’s record are most likely going to be used against her? Will the GOP even bother to go into her record, or will they just hammer her for being a “DEI candidate?”

How do the Dems avoid a repeat of 1968? Can they?

Thank you listener Lydia S!

With Harris being the nominee, do you think this will hurt the black vote given her past as an AG?

What the others said, and even if you assume the presidency is lost this move gives Dems their best shot at taking back the House and holding the Senate in order to limit the impact of Project 2025.

I'd just like to here some positive impression, among the realistic woe. So I wasn't calling for Biden to drop out, but now that he has I'm not worried. IMO No one was voting Dem because they loved Biden's vibes. People will vote for the 60 year old over the 80 year old.

What do you think currently about Harris as a potential president (not as a candidate - way too much political coverage is speculating about electability aka what other people think)?