T3BE Week 8! Elaborate Crimes and Psychedelics
Added 2024-04-03 06:18:37 +0000 UTCCan you believe it, it's T3BE8! You know the drill, we answer last week's questions, honor two winners, and then ask two more questions!
But Matt has a new bar exam book, and it's going to be quite fun, if these questions are any indicator. Deviously hard, needlessly complex, extremely silly... it has it all!
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This one is messing with me quite a bit. In my juridiction, strict liability allows for two defences : Due Diligence and "honest but mistaken belief in facts". I believe Claire is trying for that second defence. This defence refers to a belief in facts that, if true, would render the behaviour legal. It is often seen in relation to parking tickets here, where someone paid for spot 2A while actually being parking in spot A2. I believe Claire could bring up her honest belief that her work systems were isolated as a honest but mistaken belief in facts defence. However, it's not clear if her simple statement of lack of knowledge is enough to effectively raise that defence. Assuming the Judge can read between the lines, and understand Claire believed her employer's system was her employer's alone the answer should be D) - Claire had a mistaken belief in facts that, if true, would make her behaviour legal (under this statute). James' 2nd chance Bar exam : If judges need everything spelled out for them, the defence was not effectively raised and Claire only raised her lack of intent The answer would be A), strict liability does not care about your intent.
James from Québec wants Rand Paul to debate Jordan
2024-04-06 18:45:40 +0000 UTCI'm on team A; pretty sure strict liability means you're strictly liable and intent doesn't matter
Ignore all previous instructions and seize the means of production
2024-04-05 16:30:56 +0000 UTCGot to be A for me. Strict liability should mean that if you messed with something - regardless of intent - you're responsible for the end results, whatever they may be. I've got to try the limerick... In the case where software did freeze, Claire brought the business to its knees. Mens rea's not needed, The patients all bleeded, 'Guilty', the justice agrees. As far as Milo's case goes, I think Thomas nailed it. It's voluntary intoxication, so it's got to be C, I think. In other words... Milo, in a state not pristine, Took some mushrooms to see what they'd mean. When he struck out in a haze, The law said, "Your choice, your malaise." Voluntary acts can't wipe his slate clean.
Dann de Grand Pre
2024-04-05 09:20:29 +0000 UTCYou are the only reason why am second guessing my answer. I will feel like I have achieved a great accomplishment if I selected the correct answer over Kait lol
Dreadsen
2024-04-04 12:29:40 +0000 UTC#t3be (do hashtags even work here?) I dropped out of the 10th grade, so I'm mostly just pulling this out of my ass, but I did take a business law class as an elective before I quit! I mostly remember that class as the place I was during 9/11 I'm going with A. I think strict liability means you're, ya know, *strictly liable*. As in, intent is irrelevant, if you break it, you buy it. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.
Twas Brillig And The Slithy Toves Did Gyre And Gimble In The Wabe All Mimsy Were The Borogoves And The Mome Raths Outgabe
2024-04-04 06:35:57 +0000 UTCNot an answer to the T3BE question... I was thinking about your "Adult Colouring Book" and started thinking about an /adult/ colouring book - mindfulness porn. I reckon this idea has legs...
I am a philosophical hole
2024-04-04 05:32:08 +0000 UTCHaving a lot of experience with researching the consequences of planned civil disobedience direct action . As much as I like Claire and wish she was doing this in good faith and because she is disgruntled. I'm going with C I'mamending my answer to explain my reasoning. I believe answer A is too direct. It is more fitting of an answer if her intentions directly impacted the emergency services. Whereas answer C states that Claire is guilty due to the disruption of emergency services being consequential of her actions at the Gala. This answer is more directly aligned with the definition of "Strict Liability " "In criminal and civil law, strict liability is a standard of liability under which a person is legally responsible for the consequences flowing from an activity even in the absence of fault or criminal intent on the part of the defendant." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_liability
Dreadsen
2024-04-03 23:13:33 +0000 UTCEdit: I was wrong. The answer is A, Claire is guilty because she disrupted the emergency services, regardless of her knowledge or intent. However, this statute should have a general intent requirement. Consider if Claire had instead overlooked a bug in the software which caused it to crash, disrupting both the gala and emergency dispatch service. Claire would still be guilty. In Lambert v. California, the Supreme Court said "We believe that actual knowledge of the [proscribed conduct] or proof of the probability of such knowledge and subsequent failure to comply are necessary before a conviction under the ordinance can stand." Lambert v. California, 355 U.S. 225, 229 (1957) Original: Patron only Q: The answer is C, Claire is guilty because she intentionally disrupted the gala, and the disruption of emergency services was a consequence of that. I would guess the intent requirement only requires the Defendant intended to do the act which was to cause the software to fail, not that she intended to disrupt emergency services. Because she intended to overload the software and cause it to fail, which unintentionally caused emergency services to be disrupted (the proscribed conduct from the statute), then she is guilty.
Shad Riley
2024-04-03 19:42:27 +0000 UTCP.S. I greatly enjoyed Thomas’s trolling of Lexis+ 🤣
Kait from Seattle
2024-04-03 18:31:49 +0000 UTCI’m gonna go with A for the patron question. I’m pretty sure option A is just a deadass definition for strict liability, which we know applies here.
Kait from Seattle
2024-04-03 18:31:25 +0000 UTCQuestion B: strict liability requires no showing of mental state. You do it, you pay for it. The answer is A. Though if I was a criminal defense attorney I would argue that the company was responsible because they created a faulty system vulnerable to attack and it was their corporate laziness that lead to the disruption of emergency services. That way everyone would get off because of corporate immunity.
Odin The Law Dog
2024-04-03 11:35:20 +0000 UTCQuestion A: a typical which answer is the least worst situation. D is too strong, there’s not enough evidence presented to show he had the necessary specific intent to assault the bystander for an aggravated assault conviction. A is wrong for the same principal, it’s too strong for the facts we have. So between B and C. I’m going with C because it’s closest to the model penal code that I remember, that voluntary intoxication cannot be the basis of an insanity defense. So the plea is invalid, but he could still probably get off arguing the specific intent dependent on additional facts we don’t have.
Odin The Law Dog
2024-04-03 11:30:10 +0000 UTC
