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T3BE Week 6 - ROCKED by Scandal #T3BEgate2

Massive controversy shakes T3BE to its core. Thomas and Matt respond to the international outcry and media firestorm generated by allegations that T3BE is using repeat questions.

After that, we get two TOTALLY DEFINITELY NEW practice bar exam questions. Topics are appealing to SCOTUS re State constution vs. US constitution, and also the gender wage gap when it comes to bank robbery.


T3BE Week 6 - ROCKED by Scandal #T3BEgate2

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Oh, that was definitely the point. Any scant suspicion was snuffed out by this episode. Not by Thomas’s words, but because if you guys were to fake it, it wouldn’t make sense to mess up this way. I hope this is read in the kindest way. Love the OA.

Austin Flake

lol I absolutely promise you that we do not in any way prep the bar questions or even discuss them off air (with the obvious exception of this week as we tried to work this out)

Matt Cameron

The fact that you did repeat questions actually throws me off the theory that you prep. You know the OA following and how scrutinized you’d be getting caught. Furthermore, it’d be big of a certain former cohost to reveal how he picked the old questions. Glad you have that tool now.

Austin Flake

Love to Market Basket - I love having a host in MA. When's the next Boston live show????

OhMG

Hmm... What was T3BEgate1?

Chris Conley

Question B: I don’t remember what the bilateral rule is, but I also don’t think it matters. Conspiracy requires a couple things, an agreement between at least two people, an intent to achieve the goal of the conspiracy, and an overt action in furtherance, it does not need actual success or benefit from the conspiracy. those are separate crimes, were only dealing with conspiracy. So A and C are out, Although he withdrew, he didn’t do anything to stop the conspiracy from occurring, which is generally required to effectively withdraw. He didn’t do that so B is out. My answer is D.

Odin The Law Dog

A is wrong because the Supreme Court would never create such a restriction of their own power. C is wrong because even if it was factually correct, the result would be a new trial, so no reason to do so. D is wrong because it’s gobbledygook. The final judgement rule applies to appeals from the trial court to a higher court, not from state supes to Fed supes. And the original conviction was a final order for purposes of this line of appeal.

Odin The Law Dog

Question A: Courts favor less work over more work. If the independent state grounds settle the issue, then SCOTUS doesn’t have to waste time answering federal aquestions whose answers don’t change the results. The answer is B.

Odin The Law Dog

Question 2: D A bank robber's getaway lover Left a note for the police to discover. He thought he'd go free, But the court won't agree; Though he's flaky, he's not undercover. (The bilateral requirement generally only applies when a party to the conspiracy is an undercover officer who has no intention of the crime actually happening.)

Tom Pandolfo

I was wondering about that too! I lived in the Boston area when there was that whole dramatic CEO change between Arthur T. and Arthur S. DeMoulas and it was enough that I remembered the name.

Apprentice57

ah--you're right! Demoulas/MB were responsible for another significant case in this line of them and you can see how I could confuse these two names in my notes after not sleeping much this week. Apparently snow and ice law is all Greek to me...

Matt Cameron

I thought the Demoulas family owned Market Basket. (A great grocery store chain). George Papadopoulos was one of my favorite ninth tier Trump figures though, a real horses’ ass.

Steve S

I neither confirm nor deny that I am Thomas from Sacramento's sock account.

Kait from Seattle

Question 1: C. 6th amendment just says they have the right to confront the witness and that's done during cross. If you had to physically see everyone, blind defendants and witnesses wouldn't be allowed, but who knows with this supreme Court

HolyCitySatanist

Question 2: D. If leaving a note was enough to get out of a conspiracy after already doing your part, everyone would do it and you'd see a bunch of letters written to Trump.

HolyCitySatanist

Just saying, I don't care if the childcare centre "followed their processes" and "had the right number of staff" ... If I entrust my child with a childcare centre, and they left the door unlocked, and they don't have a process to ensure that one of their staff is near+watching the exits at all times... and my bright spark son walks out and - because he's new to New England (maybe we just moved from Sacramento?) and sees the ice-pond and is so excited (because he's 12!) and was oblivious to the warning signs (or, he thinks to himself that he weighs less than 30kg, the signs are probably for adults, so it'll probably be fine) ... imo, that childcare centre had to have been negligent for a child in their care to leave their care. That they followed their rules means that there's a problem with their rules, not an excuse to blame the kid.

I am a philosophical hole

The 6th amendment child abuse question. Its between B and D. I'm going with B. And the state law is not in violation with the confrontation clause of the 6 amendment.

Dreadsen

ODOR! ODOR OF MENDACITY!!! Seriously though, I love how ethically you're trying to handle this, Thomas. And I love how it illustrates how complicated just trying to count something like "number of right answers" can get in the real world. I'm not even touching the supreme court question, it makes my head hurt. For the robbery question, if Kenneth Chesebro had to plead out of the Georgia case because he made an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy to steal the election, then I'm going with D. Also, patron with name "The Rust programming language is why I get paid and why I drink"-- me too! Do we know each other??? If not, want to be friends?!?!?

Cheers to The Onion, the greatest media outlet in the history of humankind

Glad to be of help!

Apprentice57


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