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New Video: Myst is (Still) Genius, And Here's Why

Hey!

Please find enclosed a video about Myst, which I made at the behest of $10 backers voting on it for the next bonus video. I'd intended for it to be a little shorter, more like a proof-of-concept for a full video later on, but as is my custom at this point, it exploded out of my control and became the full-length video it would have been anyway.

I'm keeping it just for patrons for the foreseeable future. I really appreciate the constant support (and patience) you folks give me, so I like the idea of there being entire videos that are just yours. Also, I joked in the Human Revolution video that my next video-game video would be about the Director's Cut of that game, and I want to remain technically true to that, lol.

Proper captions will be up for the video in a few days, if you like that sort of thing.

Let me know what you think! As I say in the end credits, I wanna do something on "Myst-Alikes" and the attempted remasters of Myst, but I would love to know if anyone would actually like that first, aha. I'm going to think more about that when I get some other stuff out of the way.

Speaking of which! My next video is going to be about how modern digital creative tools shape contemporary media. I'm finally going to show off what became of the Brainmind Residency, so that's exciting. Oh, and a segment in it was made for the RWBY video literally years ago - I hired an animator and everything! - so it's gonna be really fun showing that off. I'm finally getting stuff off my plate, which is very fun and freeing.

Also, as mentioned above, in the works is a review of the Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut, which I plan as a sort of 'I hit 1 million subscribers so here's a stupid video I shouldn't have made, instead of the usual Q&A no-one wants' video. My 1-million subsciber plaque is sitting unopened, leaned against the doorway of my bathroom, until I complete this project, as a constant reminder.

As the large stack of George Lucas-related books implies, the Star Wars videos are also still happening. By the time they're done, we'll have looped back around to the prequels being thought of as bad, and my takes will be radical again.

My other big main focus right now is a secret. It'll probably come out between these last two things, but I can't say what it is right now. It has to be a surprise.

Anyway, $10 backers please check back in about a week for the poll for what the next bonus video should be.

Cheers,

-Harry

New Video: Myst is (Still) Genius, And Here's Why

Comments

I’d love an hour of nitpicking about 4 versions of the same game!

Dan

i never heard of Myst, and had no idea i was watching a video about the thing that laid the groundwork for my favorite video game of all time. then i heard you saying all the things i say to my friends when i rave about Outer Wilds and my head snapped up from my laundry. modern devs aiming for an 'immersive experience' miss a critical piece Myst cracked in 93, when they designed a game that only works when YOU engage with the world and YOU learn how it works. your character doesn't take control in a cut scene to get you from A to B. Phoenix Wright doesn't explain the importance of evidence you picked on accident. you solve things because you're looking and learning, and that's how it sucks you in. thanks for this video. discovering how much a game i never knew about actually means to me is magic i can't put into words.

tellingbones

there's a really good picture from Mysterium: a player showing everyone her hand-bound journal with the clues for all the games. i want to make something like that someday. the way Myst forces players to slow down and take things in, write them down or draw diagrams, is something i truly wish other games could do (im afraid of it becoming derivative). anyway Myst is one of my favorite game series ever and im recommending this video to everyone at Ayo'heek tonight. i do highly recommend anyone who wants to get into the community give MOULa a shot and hang out in it for a while. i played Uru a lot as a kid and i could never beat the Gahreesen age because there was a pillar to jump onto that you would fall through no matter what. i only learned recently that because Uru was released in 2003, computers are now too good to run it and you have to manually crunch your fps to 20 to get the physics engine to cooperate (this is specific to the original disc. it's fixed on MOULa and Steam.) i think my favorite awful version of the original Myst is the DS port, because... why did anyone choose to do that?? hearing the original sound running through the speakers grinding them to a paste is just such a strange joy. i hacked the 3DS myself in order to do it, and just like you said i truly enjoyed getting my hands dirty with it (figuratively, anyway). as much as i love the series... yeah, III-V are really weak in comparison to the original and Riven. i still love them but they do feel very, very different (shout-out to IV for having a Peter Gabriel music video right before one of the most frustrating puzzles i've ever played). one of my favorite things i've played from Myst is Descent, the demo of Uru/Myst V that one of the devs released on Twitter. it's beautiful in that 1999 polygonal style, it's got one of the Uru soundtrack pieces i've never heard actually played in game, and you can tell exactly where Myst V and Uru had to be split due to budget. they were originally intended to be the same game. still, my heart belongs to Air Stream, the sounds of the fire marbles hitting each other in my Relto, and the strange technological aesthetic of Uru. at least Myst V gave us Esher Cube. thanks for a fantastic essay. the chapter numbers being in D'ni script was awesome :) shorah!

Sammy

Loved the video! I'm only 21, and was never much of a gamer, but I really enjoy hearing people talk about this medium I'm so disconnected from, especially as I start to learn what kind of things I'd want from video games for myself. I'd heard of Myst vaguely as some kind of old puzzle game, that was fun, but that you should have a notebook for. I've found that I like puzzle games, and hearing you break down the different elements of what makes a puzzle game good has really helped me figure out why I didn't like certain ones. Your videos on other games have taught me a lot, and I really appreciate the care you put in to explaining it for people who might not be super knowledgeable about game genres or popular IP. (I've even shown your videos to my parents during Video Essay time, where I take over the TV for the sake of their education in internet culture or just things I like). My mom has started learning the terms for games she likes too. Anyway, good video! Though I will admit, the slightly jerky/jarring movement of the game footage was making me vaguely motion sick. I don't know if that's something you can do anything about though, or if it's just what moving quickly in Myst does

Eli

hmm... to respond to your closing thoughts in the credits, i think it's definitely worth making this video public, just because the problem still exists that this kind of video about myst is not available on youtube. i agree that it's important that this kind of thoughtful analysis of why myst worked is publicly viewable and as someone who did pay to access this video i wouldn't mind if this one were made public. that might be the evil socialism talking. perhaps you could run a poll about it or something? in any case, i really enjoyed this video, so thanks for making it! i've heard a lot about myst over the years but never played it myself. i'd like to give the convenient excuse that "it was before my time", but i think you're younger than me and therefore it was even more before your time than it was before my time, so i think if i said that with any seriousness you would come to my house and explode my brain a great number of times. instead i'm going to give the very real and much more vulnerable excuse that games where you are alone the entire time actually terrify me in a way that's quite visceral. being the only living thing in a place that seems real is like a nightmare, it deeply unsettles me and i start getting paranoid and thinking something's going to jump out at me. i can't even stand being in my own house if noone else is here. you showed off one of the brothers' room quite early on, the quite finished and decorated one with the portrait of him as a king. it wasn't until much later where you showed off the other one, in total disrepair, and with that music... honestly, i would have been too scared to stay in that room. "even though the room is quite small, you are demanded to sit in them and look around and listen to the vibes"? the hell i am! i am fleeing. i am leaving. show me the credits the way i'm hitting the quit game button.

Decker

Finally got around to watching this after having been a patron for a year or so, watched the first half, went past the bit where you say “spoilers” then realised I WANTED to play this game. Paused it, played the whole of Myst in like 5 and a half hours, LOVED IT, and came back to realise I’d paused it just before you talk about the endings. The immediate fondness I felt looking at the rest of the video having played the game was awesome. What a fantastic video, and thanks for putting me onto this amazing game. Can’t wait to play Riven!!!!

a tiny part of the internet

I love this video; I watch it at least 2-3 times a year. Would it be possible to upload it to Nebula? I got rid of my Youtube Premium a while ago and now I can't download this and listen to it on the go. Also, I'd love to see the videos on the remakes and all the Myst clones.

Anita Karsa

Subscribed to the patreon specifically to watch this video. I absolutely adore Myst and I'm so happy to see people talk about it. I would love to see you talk about Riven and Exile too.

TTZenith

I almost got to play Myst when I was a kid, but my PC at the time didn't have internet (my mom didn't want to pay for a separate internet connection for the shittier computer she handed off to me when she bought her new one), so I never had a chance to troubleshoot and get it running. I remember being really sad about that at the time because the game looked really fun, but I'm glad I got to find out what made it so special so many years later even if I never got to experience it for myself. Thanks Hbomb!

RedPandaKT

There are fine things old boy, which are more brilliant unfinished, then finished to much…. We got the pathological reference

Ratman

I subscribed for this video.

Myst

I had SO MUCH beef with The Witness. It's gorgeous, I want to see all of it, and I cannot figure out some of the puzzles no matter how many times I play the ones that were suppose to teach me the rules. It annoys me

Laurel Nelson

Watching this video was like coming home to a time that is so far away, I hardly remember it. One thing I could never forget, mostly because my dad could never shut up about it, was how Myst was created in our hometown (Spokane, WA), and I distinctly remember feeling like I was so cool informing my school mates about this fact. Except I was playing a game that is literally the same age as me - on my windows 94 system that BARELY ran in 2005 - to kids that had no damn idea what I was on about. None the less, hearing the sounds of Myst in this video transported me straight to my old setup, room lit only by monitor, being scared shitless of the Myst book warping sound. But mostly feeling like the smartest person alive when I figured out puzzles, or being proud of my Myst clues notenoook, full of info I never used, but still remember all the same I feel ridiculous saying I've seen this video many times by this point, but you have such an incredible way of articulating exactly how I've always felt about this classic game. It felt like no one I knew had any knowledge this game even existed, and yet I don't think I could ever forget it if I tried. I haven't even played it since my janky '94 setup that crashed when the wind blew. Thank you so much for giving this game the time and love it deserves, and I would 100% love more thoughts in this series!

takethechillpill

Begging you to make this public someday to bring Myst to more people's attention

charlicane

heyyyyyy everyone, uh quick question I'm very new here (to Patreon) and I was wondering if there was a way to watch all the member videos on youtube? like all at once in a playlist or something 😅

Mr. Xethus

So, one day while going through storage stuff, i found a book/journal that accompanied the game Myst. inside was all handwritten thoughts, theories and explanations for the game and how to get through its puzzles, as well as the story. turns out my mother had been a dedicated little gamer and had properly role played the game through and through, even to the point of following the journals instructions to tear out and hide the final page of the journal so that the brothers cant find it. My mother was born in 1969 and shes awesome.

Jay Dean

Oh also, thank you for calling out the Witness, that has bothered me for literal years. The Witness is a perfectly fine game but it feels like almost the antithesis to what makes Myst good, so the number of people who reference the two together infuriates me to no end.

GenderpunkDeer

Okay I joined (way late) just to watch this specific video because I fucking love Myst; I was born in 1995 and Myst was the first game I played when I was literally 3 years old. I really grew up on Myst and Riven. I have visceral childhood memories of riding the gondolas on Riven back and forth between island without ever having any remote chance of actually beating the game, just wandering around these worlds and watching the same cutscenes of the weird whale bird thingies over and over or knocking on the door of the Rivenese. But there's a really cool thing I wanna add to the section about Myst puzzles "making sense": In an interview before Obduction came out they talked about how they design the ages first and then think of puzzles to put into those ages. And that makes so much sense because that's one of the reasons why the puzzles make sense: there actually is an internal logic to each world and the creators spent time coming up with that world and it's rules and then tried to place puzzles into it. And it's entirely opposite to what you would expect really, you would think that a Designer would want to come up with cool Puzzles and then design a world to fit it (and realistically there probably was some influence this way) but the fact they for a majority did it the other way around is so cool. Also kind of a cool parallel how in the fiction there are people writing these worlds in the same way the designers would have. You also super briefly touch Uru and I just wanna say it is _wild_ to me that these guys basically thought "what if live service" years before it became an actual trend. I remember an Interview about Uru Online where they talk about how they wanted to secretly update the game with new worlds and puzzles; they wouldn't tell players when there was new content and players would have to find the new content and work together to solve the puzzles. It's kind of a shame that Ubisoft never gave them the money to make that a reality.

GenderpunkDeer

I hope the veggies were good at least!

Yereza Hei'an

In the MOST classic of Canadian fashions, we have both fuses and breakers. Those are actually different things. Fuses break when triggered and need to be replaced, breakers just need a flip. The UK uses a mix too to my understanding, but have fuses in all their outlets which is unique. Anyhow, that's your Canadian, electrical fact for this video. See you on the next one

Daniel Gilbert

Ellison is awesome! After playing it I had to go read Ellison's original story and was blown away by how ahead of its time it was (it won the Hugo award in 1968 or 9) and then I read a bunch of his other stuff and became a fan. I think that the game was one of the most expensive games ever made when it was published as well, though I'm just going off memory on that! I've never played other Cyberdream games though - are there any you recommend?

Grumblepug

I really wanna cover that game! I'm a big fan of Harlan Ellison's writing but also Cyberdreams' games, so the fact one of them was both was always so cool to me.

Hbomb

I subscribed to your Patreon just so I could watch this so if there's more, I'm on board! Would love to see a deep dive into "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" as well.

Grumblepug

No way - The Labyrinth Through Time? I thought I was the only person to ever play that. It's... alright I guess. Still, good to hear I'm not alone haha.

MrTeachableMoment

Coming back to this after recently playing through most of the series (Myst 4 was so awful I couldn't finish.) Loved the video even more this time, and would absolutely love a follow up! Particularly since I expect you to have thoughts about the Riven remake based on your comments about the Myst remasters.

Ken Robinson

omg! its that old game i like ... wait people like people actually play that

Claire_Is_Memed

It's coined by neither Harris nor Elon, it's from the scifi book Stranger in a Strange Land

Saga Nørgaard

Ascribing it to Harry is a bit generous: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/grok

Daan

Just so you know, one third through this video I got the old copy of Myst my mom gifted me many many years ago, got it working and I hope to finally finish it this time xD so thanks!

Am1vf

I’m watching this video in August 2024 and hearing Harry coin “grok” before it became the horrid Elon Twitter AI thing gave me whiplash

Site-42 (TheeSherm)

I played Myst with my dad when I was 11 in 1993. It brought me back to playing Zork I, II, and III with him on my Apple IIc back in the 1980's. Part of me will always be chasing the particular nostalgia that Myst stirs in me. This video was great and really scratched that itch. I finally signed up to HBomb's patreon because of this video and I was not disappointed. Great work. Also, I would cheerfully kill for an HBomb video essay on Disco Elysium. Do ittttttttttt

Chris

Finally watching this and scrolling the comments to see if anyone else mentions Outer Wilds. Happy to see that you both did! To me, it seems like it’s the spiritual successor to Myst, carrying a lot of the same spirit and ideas. Especially the idea that it’s only knowledge you carry and that the way to complete the puzzle was always available to you from the start. The only thing that separates an experienced player and a beginner is that knowledge. Brilliant video! Wished I played the game first but enjoyed learning about it.

Anna

omg please release the additional footage as a full video, you'd have my undying gratitude. we need more myst video essays!!!!!

Dee Straith

I want more people to talk about Half-Life in excruciating detail and with a cultural studies lens hint hint

Rootabaga

Just saw the remaster of Riven is going live on Steam in about a week! There's a demo too.

Paul Sheckarski

In addition to getting more of your opinions on the rest of the series, it’d be nice to get your thoughts on modern Cyan projects. Obduction, Firmament, and their publishing branch for things like The Last Clockwinder. It’s a bit of a stretch, but I’d love someone to cover the current online version of Uru. It’s wild that there’s a community effort to keep the online version going AND to add new ages to the game. SO cool!

Rufus Riefler

I joined just for this video... I remember the game well, and getting incredibly frustrated with it, thank you! On a similar note, did you ever play Starship Titanic?... These games appeared in our house somehow during my childhood, and looking back I can only presume mum was "having a go" at computering. I remember we lent Starship Titanic to a friend who got a lot further than I ever managed. Edit: Woah, I just asked mum about it - she won Starship Titanic from a Times contest, and the box is signed by Douglas Adams, and she's still got it! 😱

Attie Grande

In 1993, I played Myst with my dad (the one and only time he ever played a video game). I was 7, and helped out with the sound puzzles (I solved the bathosphere puzzle and it still sucked). We have never stopped talking about Myst in the 30 years since. It was a formative experience.

Rachel Rakov

fantastic :]

RadonX9

i can't believe this existed for a YEAR and didnt know about it

AJ

Just finished this, and I would love to see both the video of the failed Myst clones as well as your issues with the remakes/remasters!

asecondduck

Pretty sure they're still making Syberia games.

the AC

One of my favorite recent videogames with a myst-ery to it is tunic, everyone talks about the legend of Zelda and dark souls influences but my favorite elements are how they (fail to) present any information about how to play or what to do and instead leave it up to some smart level design

Andrea

And Half Life 2.

Nicole Song

Nice. I also paid you $3.50 AUD to watch this video. Good video, I might go play Riven now.

Nicole Song

Hbomb, I just paid you $2 specifically to watch this video. I was a little kid when Myst came out and it was one of the only games in my house for a long time. My little sister and I used to play it together; it took us years and years to beat it. We would play for awhile, solve a new puzzle, and eventually get stuck and lose interest, and then pick it up again months later and play some more. I honestly never realized how big of a cultural impact Myst had because I was so young during its heyday (and probably because I didn't have a TV in the house growing up.) This video was really interesting and I learned a lot of cool stuff from it. Thanks!

World Cylinder

Subbed to watch this.. I would love another hour long video nitpicking the 4 versions of the same game.

Bee

oh man, I was 21 when Myst was released. My older brother bought it for me, and it devoured my brain for weeks while I tried to figure it out. I subbed just to watch this video! (Don't worry, I'm not going to unsub immediately afterwards. :D) My brother died earlier this year, and it's wild how the most random thing will bring him back to mind. Today, it was this video. I don't know if I need to PLAY Myst again, but I certainly enjoyed watching this.

ames

I too remembered I have money again and resubbed for Myst. Plugs work, apparently!

Adelaide Ivy

Myst was formative for me; re-joined the patreon JUST for this one after being broke as shit for a while, good to be back

Jon Cantwell

I would like the nitpicking video please

Kristy Young

I for one want the knit-picking of Myst remakes….

Louis Thurman

Subbed to Patreon for the Myst video. Was not disappointed in the least. Wish I could say the same for Cyan's new game, the Firmament. It's fine, but you can tell they floundered during production. I won't spoil it, but I'm curious how other old Cyan fans feel about it and the terribly executed ending.

Od

Ohhhh It's MYST!! Favorite video series - and favorite game second only to Riven which is a masterpiece.

Kathryn Bowns

THAK YOU FOR GIVING ME MYST CONTENT IM GONNA CRY

Bailey Dillon

True story, my dad just found a ps4 I had at home booted up Journey and said " wut fuk is this, got past first level and don't know what it's about" my dad does sound like this.

M A Hawkins

When you said you had a Myst video i had to come check it out, and it was easily worth the patreon pledge :) watching the other bonus content now and really enjoying that too :D

GaryFaceman

I’ve been a huge fan of Myst since childhood and I am really glad you made this. I’d love to hear your thoughts about Riven and URU as well. I played a lot of terrible Myst clones… so I’m looking forward to your video about those as well!

Sean

I played this when I was 10 and it was the first PC game I ever had. I was also stupid. I figured out a LOT of the puzzles by doing sequencing...even the fireplace one. Where I copied all the possible solutions on graph paper and entering them in, one. At. A. Time. I made it pretty far (to the spaceship) before I stopped playing, since I couldn't figure it out.

Meg Scrabble

an absolute banger; not only that, but hearing that this video existed was what finally pushed me over the edge into joining the Patreon. I too would love a video about Myst remakes!

Rob Carson

Also

some kind of gay cryptid

This video transported me back to a time when my family couldn't afford a new fancy Macintosh with a faster processor and working sound card, so my Dad and I went out of our way to house and cat-sit for a more well-to-do family acquaintance so that we could bring the disks over and play Myst on their computer. We didn't have the internet or a strategy guide, and there was something transportive about how the play sessions were spread out over days and weeks of waiting for my Dad's friend to step out or travel so we could play; the notebook of info and clues we kept felt like a linking book in its own right, the way I would pore over the diagrams and maps we'd drawn the last time we got to play in anticipation of the next session. Only experiencing the game while marinating in the unfamiliar sounds and smells of another household served to deepen the sense that Myst was a world apart from the other games I was obsessed with, in much the same way that arcade experiences used to contrast against home console play. NOTE TO SELF: Write down a bunch of design ideas about how modern games could do more to request real world environmental modifiers; "Please play this wintery game with the AC turned way up and a coat on, thank you." Anyway, thank you for reminding me that my first attempts to make games were Hypercard point-and-click adventures that sucked because I couldn't figure out how to design/code decent puzzles, so they were trap-filled exploration tripe enabling me to laugh at friends for losing over and over to cheap kill screens. Keep up the amazing work, and I would LOVE to see that video ripping apart those unforgivable Myst remakes! Maybe all the videos/parts you mentioned would cut together well in anticipation/celebration of the Riven remake, (I have no idea how close that is to release, you might have a couple of years to process that, ha ha ha!)

Xeneth.Design

I was feeling like a real dumbdumb when Harry said he finished the game in a single day, before I realized that he first played the game at the age of (I'm guessing) about 13, after having played lots of other video games prior to this one, while I first played Myst at the age of 7, at which point it was the 3rd video game I'd ever played, with the other two being Prince of Persia (the original one) and Solitaire (Windows 3.0 edition). I guess I can cut myself a bit of slack for needing a Prima strategy guide to help me figure out a lot of the puzzles. But it is a shame that this experience robbed me of the organic experience of figuring out the puzzles as I went along; I'm sure it would have felt amazingly rewarding.

some kind of gay cryptid

Hello, just joined because I wanted to see the Myst video and right at the beginning when you mention there is no Myst content my brain said "yes there is" and then i argued with myself for a few minute till I remembered there are two episodes of 8 Bit Book Club - a podcast that is basically the predecessor to Not Another DnD Podcast. -. That cover Myst book - Myst: The Book Of Atrus - which is a prequel to the game. Anyway just wanted to put that out there please go check it out them peoples are very funny. Going to finish the Myst video now bye!

Ro Si

I can't believe Harry made a feature-length video specifically for my sixth-grade self

Matthew McClain

I hope you do one day release this whole video for the normal, innocent men on YouTube too one day. They deserve to watch it, it's so good

David James

Myst was my whole childhood; I loved it so much; I played it when it first came out. I have to say that while I deeply love 7th Guest, I will own that it is not a good game. I also enjoyed the 11th Hour, but I am pretty sure that the third game was never released, even though the developer attempted to make it twice. There was also a fan third installment that was Kickstarted, but I don't know what ever happened to that; it was called the 13th Doll. The picture you put up on the screen while talking about the third installment was just a rerelease of the first two games squished together; I'm not sure I would call it the third game. Regardless, I love your videos, especially this one, and thank you for being you.

Mina

The Book of Atrus novel is fantastic, if people haven't read it. The whole series is decent, but the first one is amazing. The pictures add to the feeling in an incredible way. A couple decades after having lost my original copy, I paid way too much for a hardbound copy so my then fiance and I could read it together. It was worth every penny.

Dan M

This was a joy to watch. My mother often talks about Myst; it is still the only game she's ever played that she genuinely loved and felt she completely understood. Since then, no game has been as compelling for her, or as fun to figure out. She played Myst when it came out, and kept going back to it when her kids had moved on to the PS2. You really captured the reason why she continues to tout Myst as the best game of all time--not including that I'm sure it felt great that none of her kids could figure out the puzzles in Myst despite quickly developing speedrun skills in Agent Under Fire. Anyway, this made me genuinely want to try the game out myself. Your videos always rule, but it's extra fun to learn about something you genuinely enjoy!

joey

I, for one, would love to see a video about remakes of Myst

Zubin Madon

I'm glad you got a mention of "The Witness" in there — it's definitely the modern successor to Myst in so many ways. I almost want to start my own successful YouTube channel making non-The Witness-related videos so I can get a devoted fan base for whom I make a secret The Witness video and (Jonathan) blow their tiny little minds. Anyway, everyone should go play The Witness right away. And don't Google anything about it, seriously. It's that good that it shouldn't be spoiled.

Ben Hamilton

(please make that video) <3

a himbo

and spent a large portion of my childhood playing & making 'Myst clones'

a himbo

Became a Patreon sub for the Myst content

a himbo

Myst was one of my favourite games growing up! I don’t know what that says about me, but in any case I’d love to hear your opinion on games along the same vein. 😊

Alanna Watson

I don't know what this says about me, but the offer of a Myst video is what got me to give you money. Please do not act on this information in any way. Ok, maybe make some more videos on mystlike games. or more myst games. But you were gonna do that anyway...so...nothing other than that.

An Owl

0:50 not to mention that longplay is just a video stolen from someone else.

Maroon

I see what you did there, Hbomb. Casually dropping a mention of your Myst video in the plagiarism video, just to get people excited and drive them to Patreon. ...Well it worked, here's my money. Thanks for the great Myst video. More Myst content would be lovely, thanks. Also, I heard Somerton's YouTube, Twitter and Discord all suddenly blew up and disappeared. Huh, wonder what could've caused that...

Zynkei

I first played Myst in college on a friend's computer, and they (having played it before) functioned as an interactive hint guide, asking subtle leading questions when I got stuck. It was great! I wouldn't have gotten far without her.

Kallin

You should obviously make a public version of this — keeping it locked away here only perpetuates the lack of MystTube that you lamented! Also, yes to remaster nitpick and the other one you mentioned which I've already forgotten but was even more enthused about. (Like others, I'm here via ~~a magic book~~ the mention in the Plagiarism video, which I watched on Nebula.)

Kallin

Also yes Play The Dig

SamSB

I was so happy to see the shout out to ScummVM. That software gave me back my childhood, which was the LucasArts SCUMM games. One of my favourite facts about Myst's impact on the genre is that it took off around the end of development on Day of the Tentacle at LA, and because more people bought CD drives to play Myst, the developers at LucasArts got the offer to release a version of DOTT on CD as well. Because they had all that extra space compared to a floppy disk, they fully voiced the entire game. So yeah, Myst was such a great game, it actively allowed one of the other GOATs of 1993 to get its iconic voice acting. (Using 'Rogue Leaders, the Story of Lucas Arts' as the source on that, where they interviewed the dev team)

SamSB

A great, lesser-known YouTuber made a video essay on Myst, which inspired my first play through. If you folks want more Myst love in your life, check it out! :) https://youtu.be/AC84zW897ZM?si=Ge_wAo3uNN7FAr50

George M. Dyck

Saaaaaaaame

Jonathan Basseri

The only thing I regret is that I subscribed to the patreon too late to have contributed to the creation of a video about Myst.

Harry Wagstaff

We're gonna start MystTube BABYYY

Garin

As a person who's been years looking for that Mystube without success, I cannot thank you enough for this essay. My partner and I love Myst and Riven (which stands as my favourite game to this day), and it's always a delight to see other people express that they have fond memories of these games as well. So, once again, thank you!

GomezCuadrado

I signed up for Patreon just for this video because I love Myst so much. It's the first computer game I can remember playing as a child, and even though it was way over my head at the time, I never forgot it. Now I own all the Myst games (several times over between the CD-ROMs, digital editions, mobile editions, VR edition, etc). Myst means a lot to me, and this video did not disappoint. I understand the desire to give backers something just for them (or *us* now I guess), but it does make me a little sad, considering how little in-depth content is out there, that the wider Myst fan community will never see this or even know it exists.

hemicyon

I really do keep doing back to this video. Never even played the game!

Brendan McCoy

i would like an hour of nitpicking four versions of the same game definitely, and a look at the sequel for sure, myst is so neat, i coincidentally went down a myst rabbit hole a month or so ago after picking up one of the games at a second hand games store and hearing that this video was here in your new vid meant i had to sign up to see it! this was great stuff!

Lake

He got one more Patron out of this by not releasing it, mentioning it at the end of his last big video— and I don't begrudge him one bit, except it's 3am so I must resist. Later. Someone bring me the white pages; I think the D'ni is out of toilet paper.

EllenB

joining the chorus of voices saying i paid the money just specifically to see Myst Video, hope you're doing data analytics on these comments bc if there's more myst/riven content to come i may even stay subscribed

asher stabler [they/them]

I was going to say the same thing! A lot of what he talks about here reminds me of outer wilds.

Mark Spark

I would love to hear your take on Outer Wilds if you've played it. To me it seems like the the game that actually learned all the lessons from Myst that JBlow intentionally discarded for the Witness. It's a real masterpiece.

Brian Dorfman

As others above, I subscribed just after hearing you talk about this video in the Plagiarism one. You really need to advertise more for your own stuff, man! Thank you a lot for putting into words what I've been thinking about Myst and Riven for years. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on Riven, in particular, which, to me, was the actual masterpiece in the series, building on everything Myst had set up and surpassing it in every way. Anyway, it's always a pleasure to discover more content from you. I came for Myst but I'm here to stay now. Cheers and much love.

Kivome

respect for the grimbeard myst video

Rey Fox

The throwaway comment you made at the end of your plagiarism video about this Myst post is what make me subscribe to your Patreon. I got way too into the series when they came out and it's a hole I've never dug myself out of.

Kathleen Schofield

Well, ya got me. I had to see the Myst video so now I’m a patron lol.

Joseph Tagliaboschi

I never played Myst but I read 'The Book of Atrus' so some of these names are familiar but also not and I am thinking I should play Myst.

Bess C.

thank you for telling us this video exist at the end of the new one, i would have missed it otherwise lol

Props It Yourself

Myst is my best friend so I'm a patron now after finding out about it at the end of your plagiarism video.

Lesflaya

Man I've been a patron for years and completely missed this video lol. A sweeter reward for watching to the end of a video has never been given.

Rupour

This is great! I think the world needs to see it. Seriously.

Dennis Dimka

this video made my brain so happy

Catherine Wood

Great to see that 11 or 12 year old me played this game in the most unhinged way by forgoing most of the clues and just bumbling my way through, getting the white page before ever considering to use the red/blue pages for anything. Also love to hear at least someone agrees with my annoyance about The Witness. It's just unfortunate that Cyan's last game Firmament seems to adhere more to that design philosophy (similarly like they did in Myst V but worse).

Eva Emiel

This was great. I'd also love to see a video on the remakes, as my partner wants to play Myst but doesn't know which version to play...

M R. X. Dentith and Josh Addison

hiya Harry 🩷 just wanted to say I’ve enjoyed your videos for years and after your Plagarism one & your mention of this exclusive video at the end, I decided I should get on your patreon. You do such good work and it’s so awesome to get to support you directly in doing that & to enjoy special ~exclusive~ content, just wanted to say thanks. You’re cool 👍🏻🩷

Rowan

Man, I kept thinking about Dig as this was going and was sure he was going to have something to say about it. Well... at least he mentioned it...

Scott Goodrich

I bought The Witness when it came out hoping for a Myst-like experience and quit after completing it far enough to get into the movie room. I was in the middle of trying to figure out how this video of a little girl with a candle would help me progress later on... Only to find variations OF THE SAME PUZZLE AGAIN. Now I look back and I'm embarrassed how long it took me to stop. Hearing you tear into it was so satisfying. I feel seen! Either way, I signed up for the Patreon because I heard you released this video and had to see it, and I'd love to see more!! (AlsoapublicversionwouldbereallycoolbecausethenmyfriendswouldwatchitandfinallyUNDERSTAND)

Calicodog

Count me as another one who finally joined with the promise of a video on Myst. Forcing myself to go to bed like a big boy first before watching it, though.

Tonxey

Oh my gods I'm so so happy to see a huge video on like my favorite game series ever. I would LOVE more Myst videos, I joined your patreon for this. (Is the remaster video going to include the horrible DS version. Please say yes.)

Harmony

Literally only joined to see this Myst vid!!! been a long-time fan, but I couldn't possibly put off seeing one of /your/ vids, talking about one of my /favourite/ series!

Miriam Williams

This was an excellent video that brought me back to playing Myst with my dad as a kid. I'm DEFINITELY keen to hear you talk about the weird MYST remasters and RIVEN. Thanks for the amazing work on your videos! <3

Keaton R

You did it. You broke me. I could not help myself. As soon as you said, "I have a 90m video of MYST on Patreon." It was all over. I cannot *wait* to spend the next hour and a half appreciating this. Thank u~♡

Danika Hicks

Joined the Patreon, enticed by the Myst video as many others have been, it seems. Thanks for making it, I really enjoyed it. Haven't played it in ages, but was going to play the VR version soon as a nostalgia trip. Would love the hear what you had to say about the Myst remakes!

Sam W

Having never played Myst (or any games of that era aside from The Dig which I couldn’t finish as a child because I couldn’t and still don’t really grasp the puzzles), I would love to see any and all videos you want to make that run adjacent to it!

Victoria Spencer

You gave me PTSD with this quicktime stuff. I never played Myst (I wanted to as a child but no money), instead I got a copy of the secrets of the luxor at the time 'cause it was cheap. Same concept: fixed screens in pre-rendered 3D world. The game crashed after three screens, because a video was normally playing, but my version of quicktime was too recent. Windows never let me downgrade it; it took me a year to find the solution. I don't remember it, but I remember the problem vividly, and how much time I spent on it. The quicktime puzzle was the hardest one. The game was difficult by itself, but quicktime gave me the resilience and the fortitude necessary to go through it. Thanks quicktime. Now I'm a software engineer of course, and I play games on Linux (especially old games) so I spend more time trying to make them work than really playing them. Life is a puzzle man.

Thanat0s

I literally became a patron because you mentioned this on your Plagiarism video (and judging by all the recent comments, a lot of other people did too). However, you say right at the beginning how crazy it is that no one makes video essays about Myst, then proceed to make a video essay about Myst and hide it behind a paywall... that's just... That's weird, dude.

Mel Vitta

Myst was the first game I ever played, and an LP of it by Dilandau3000 dropped me down the rabbithole of Lets Plays in general. I know I'd be rabid for more Myst. Heck, if you add in the Myst books, there are certainly some interesting themes to explore of stewardship and exploitation- from the original D'ni society, the collapse, and rebuilding- how the views of their society from these people who either create or simply find new worlds of resources, and their interactions with other sapient in the worlds they arrive in.

Keifru

wow LOVED the latest vid & then u mentioned myst and i literally could not resist. Thanks for all you do!!

AJ Sheridan

Myst is one of my favorite games of all time, as soon as you mentioned it was on here in the plagiarism vid I got my card ready

Christian Dahl

As a kid, my parents hated video games. Myst was the only game I was allowed to have for many years, and it imprinted on my 9 year old brain. A video on what followed the release of Myst, and how incredibly angry people got about it and its clones would be great!

Eben Sullivan

I think the best modern progressing through fiddling game is The Room. I also tells a compelling story by degrees like Myst.

Josh Yates-Walker

.... Have you played "The Dig" yet?

DasGanon

you would love eCheese Zone

compton

I also joined to watch this video. It's interesting that they mainly claim inspiration from things like DND, which also inspired other old computer games with similar storytelling approaches like the Zork series. So they may not have been directly influenced by other video games of their time but they still share a lineage, like divergent evolution...

Adam Piontek

Myst was one of the most memorable gaming experiences of my childhood and I cannot tell you how much joy it gives me to listen to you gush about it for over an hour! Your description of Myst's "realism" so perfectly captures how I've always felt. I wish more puzzle/adventure games could figure out how to make thought-provoking worlds to explore as opposed to just collections of themed puzzles. This is the Myst video I've always wanted. Thank you so much for all the work you do, it is truly a pleasure to experience! (now if only I could get a video like this about Riven). ;)

Tiriel Gould

I joined to watch this video because I too have been flummoxed by the lack of Myst videos on YouTube.

Conor McLaughlin

All my knowledge of Myst was sitting next to my older brother while I was like 4 to his like, 17, him playing it on our PC, and me desperately trying to help him solve the puzzles while he would sigh and say "that's not how you do it." By the time I was of a consciousness to play it my brain was on to other things. ...But weirdly now I want to play it. Anyway, loved it, I'd LOVE to know more about Myst-icals!

Maq

As someone who was never able to play myst well enough to get through any puzzles as a kid but loved connections this was a fantastic video to see. Thank you so much for making this and all your videos.

Amidamaru44

I never really played Myst, but my Dad and Sister are absolutely OBSESSED with the games and lore. They're constantly talking about the books, the games, and have the sound effects from the game as notification sounds on their phones. I'm glad to see you talk about it though, it unlocked a very specific window of nostalgia for me as one of the first computer games I ever got to play with, even if i was FAR too young to understand any of what was happening. I just followed my dads notes on the game to see what he did!

ChibiLlama

Would LOVE a breakdown of what you dislike about the myst remakes tbh

My Murphy

Best $2 of my life

Hackstr

Got as far as the Journeyman Project attacks, and now I'm rage-quitting and unsubscribing. Okay, kidding. I loved JP, but I can't deny it was primitive. The sequels did the same concept much better. For instance, JP2 opens with you being kidnapped by your future self and shot forward in time, and then you have to explore for a while and find a hidden message that contains the exposition dump.

Rob Dukes a.k.a. Jurgan

I loved this video! Riven was the first "real" computer game I ever played, though, which I think did spoil me when I went back to play Myst. But since Journeyman Project 3 was one of my favorite games as a kid, I was a little surprised the Journeyman games featured so much as being bad. I never played 1 or 2 so I can't speak to whether they improved, but 3 definitely embraced some of the silliness of the premise and ran with it -- you could put your AI companion Arthur in "chatty" mode and he'd make snarky comments about everything, and there were easter eggs hidden throughout the game. I don't know that the game or humor holds up particularly well, but when I was 15 it was perfect.

Amber S.

I somehow missed this when it came out so i get to watch it now but yes please do something on mystalikes i need someone to talk about obduction why does nobody talk about obduction please did i fucking hallucinate that game

ball gobbler

I definitely want that video about the remasters, but you probably shouldn't do it. Your skills are more useful on stuff like the plagiarism and pro-vax stuff.

Draexian

I played Myst shortly after it came out with my cousin on her computer. Notebooks in hand, solving puzzles together, banging our heads against the wall because I was 12 and she was 14 and shit was cryptic! Good times, loved the video!

Catherine Stowell

I’m so happy to be a patron here. I just finished this fantastic retrospective and now I see Hbomberguy has been dropping pretty cool little videos and updates this whole time. I can’t wait to see all this extra stuff.

Brian

I replayed Myst for the first time in about 20 years before watching this. It's always been one of my favorite series if games. And, because I'm weird, I actually like the mazerunner puzzle. That's always what I called it. I'm very audio-oriented so an entire age themed around sound is so cool, and figuring out how to navigate a maze using a sound-based compass is still one of my favorite parts of the game. Edit: I also really like Myst III. I love that Brad Dourif is the antagonist, but he's not an inherently bad person. The further in the game you go you feel increasingly sorry for him and understand his desperation. I always let him go at the end. I really hope he found his family.

Austin Luther

Update: I have watched this video three times in the past three weeks. You are very close to convincing me to give realMyst another go or to buy the original. By the way, I was thinking that the tricks for leading the player in the beginning of the game don't work as well in the 3D version. Maybe that's part of the reason why I didn't like it much the first time around.

Anita Karsa

My personal favourites of this particular style of puzzle adventure games were the two Zork entries of the era, Nemesis and Grand Inquisitor. Grand Inquisitor has the typical Zork comedic tone (with some great subverted puzzle jokes), Nemesis is dark and creepy and incredibly atmospheric. The whole game gave me major creeps as a kid, especially the Asylum area. Really good stuff.

Kai

Casting my vote in for releasing this publicly. A coworker was recently telling me about HyperCard, but he couldn't remember the name. Thanks to this video I was able to confirm that's what it was, and then learn about it!

theaveragegeek

Closest I’ve found to Myst tube was the “Complete Chronologies” on Myst by CrimockLyte.

Gavitron

I played the remastered version which (although it's very pretty) I did not enjoy at all, probably because I was recommended it as a puzzle game and I think it's more of an adventure/exploration game. As you've said, the puzzles are easy once you have figure out the mechanics and this exploration is the point of the game. I prefer games with clear objectives/mechanics with hard puzzles instead. I believe that Stephen's Sausage Roll is in the latter category because you always know the objective of the game and most of the basic movement options (you usually only discover up to one new movement in a level). As someone who absolutely adores good puzzle games but gets frustrated by adventure/exploration games, the fact that many people lump these two (to me, incredibly different) game types together can be very unhelpful when looking for something to play. Thank you for providing a platform for me to whinge about this :D. Still, it's a really good video and I agree with everyone else that you should definitely release this publicly.

Anita Karsa

I really love this video. It's about a game I'd previously never heard of, and how that game I had previously never heard of helped inspire some of the games I can't imagine my life without. Topics like this really warm my heart!

Dyllan Miller

please release this publicly harry i need to force all my friends to watch it

Lisa Haves

I wouldn't put off releasing this one publicly - I think this is an important video, frankly, and especially with Myst's 30th anniversary coming up this September, it feels timely. Consider putting it out publicly! Just like you said in the video, for a game this foundational, it's shocking how little attention it gets these days. Putting this video out might help change that!

Patrick Mauro

just became a patron! loved the video - i don't know if i can speak for everyone, but i personally as a person who was too young to get to play myst and had never heard of it before, would LOVE to see you release the myst remake and the myst clone videos. maybe as separate things so that they can come out more frequently, but the idea of one like seven hour video is very funny

seraf

This brings back so many great memories of playing old PC games on my grandmas computer. Specifically Connections, man that game was grand.

Trask Sloan

Oh, man. I’m a solid five years younger than Myst, but my parents are obsessed with it, so it’s one of the first games I remember playing as a kid. I was a total loser, so I loved it. I got Riven for my eighth birthday, all five (hah) discs. My mom and I suffered the pain of Myst V: You Can’t Draw With a Mouse together. I even played Myst Online: Uru Live, which takes place in the mystical far off land of New Mexico. When I bring up Myst, a lot of people my age have no clue what the fuck I’m talking about. Not really. After a few seconds they’re like “oh, yeah, isn’t that an old PC game? There’s a remaster on Steam or something,” but it’s too late, I’m already crying pretentious zillennial tears about something that was popular before I was born. Myst changed the way an entire generation thought about computer games. My mom used to decorate the computer room and light candles for Myst; it wasn’t just a puzzle, or a game, it was an experience. The idea that you could turn on your home computer and walk through a different world was incredible to her in a way that doesn’t quite resonate when you grew up taking it for granted. Now that I think about it, maybe there’s something to be said about the people who made computer games in the 90s writing a story about the incredible power to generate new worlds—simply by writing them down.

Adrian

(Not so) Fun Fact: An updated version of Riven never happened since Riven actually was developed on one of those 3D workstations... and nobody knows how to actually get the 3D data off them for a re-release. Cyan have been forced to remake from scratch. (And I assume nobody wants to spend a year re-rendering Riven on them at a higher resolution, if that's even possible on the hardware)

A Sentient Katamari of Bad Life Decisions

Speaking of Myst, this bundle just popped up: https://www.humblebundle.com/games/myst-more-redux-30-years-myst

Ben-K

This is the only place i have to say this where anyone will even potentially understand what i mean: Everyone plays Myst wrong. That’s a little bit engagement bait, I guess, but what i mean is this: Based on all available footage i’ve ever seen of someone playing Myst, the movement slides simply jump cut from one to the next. Now maybe this is for the sake of producing video, but it really makes the old “playable PowerPoint” knock float to the surface. Why am I taking about this? Because on Myst’s original MacOS release, there were several options for screen transition speed, from “fastest” to “smoothest.” in 1994 I played through Myst with the “smoothest” transitions, and it never once occurred to me that I was playing a slideshow. Was this option simply not available to you PROFLIGATES who had to wait until it was available on Windows? Does everybody think caffeinated jump-jump movement is just “the way?”

Saint Christopher

The section about getting Myst to actually work describes everything I love about running Linux. Scrambling around trying to troubleshoot half the programs I try to run is fun and insanely convoluted. The rush of something working, even if only barely, is just great.

Zachary Yona

I’ve been following hbomb for years. I really should have looked to see all this awesome exclusive content!

Mari

I became a backer specifically for this video. Finally, 90 minutes of unbridled content about 50% of the games library on my grandma's PC.

Jumpin Screamin Gordon Freeman

Long time fan, new Patreon backer, I must admit I'm nervous to watch this one. Hbomb has a seemingly supernatural ability to make me play games I never would have otherwise. I reassessed Dark Souls 2 thanks to his (your? Does one address comments directly to the creator on this platform?) video about it. I already loved Bloodborne but even then, the Bloodborne video made me understand why my friends got into the games with Bloodborne when I'd been onboard since Dark Souls. I became a Fallout 1 and New Vegas fan thanks to the Fallout videos (I haven't played 2 yet, please don't hate me, I'll get to it), and now I'm a huge fan of the original Deus Ex thanks to the Human Revolution video. I even bought both Pathologic games for my yearly Spooktober horror game binge. So now, before watching this Myst video, I am nervous that I'm about to become a Myst fan against my will. How, Harry? How did you gain this power over me and can I please have it back so I can take control of my life?

Camburger

I had to join up the moment I heard about this video!! Myst and Riven are so evocative to me that I can practically smell where I was where I played each of them. It was crazy to realise I still instinctively know the d’ni numbers 😅 Also, as someone who loves the witness and has played it full through twice, it’s so vastly removed from Myst that it’s truly insane to believe the creator thought it was iterating upon it. The Witness is to me just a sudoku app you get to walk around in. Myst is the landscape of dreams.

Mort

Thank you, this was amazing! The chapter titles using the D'ni numbering system is a great touch. Add me to the pile of people that would love to see more of your thoughts on the rest of Cyan's work and it's derivatives. Uru- despite the crab puzzle- ended up being really great and a wonderful surprise when I played through their work, and the small but dedicated group of people keeping Uru Live alive- adding new ages to the game even- is so wild. The number of games that got burried by Myst's legacy is honestly tragic. They aren't perfect, but great little experiences in the format are getting harder and harder to access. Especially so for laypersons who can't get a virtual machine to work. When looking for another game like Barrow Hill: Curse of the Ancient Circle, I discovered Amber: Journeys Beyond and trying to get it to work on a VM was a nightmare and in the end the game STILL didn't run correctly. No one online was troubleshooting this unknown game. Wild tangent! While it may not *quite* meet the criteria of mystimalisim, the idea of Myst being a game that can only be played once legally obliges me to be the thousandth person to proselytize on behalf of our lord and savior Outer Wilds. I don't even know what there is to say about it that hasn't been said by someone else, but the game is so dang great I still can't help myself from mentioning it even at the most tenuous of logical connections.

Rufus Riefler

I can't believe someone else ever thinks about Labyrinth

Alex Sisk

Honestly as someone who is even younger than you are and who only played Myst like- less than a decade ago for the first time, I have to say that I agree wholeheartedly on the idea that Riven doesn't need any kind of remake. I'd just want something that upscales the resolution on the backgrounds and that's it. Anything else and I think you kind of kill it a little. It's such a gorgeous game that looks so good in part because of the very specific way it was made that remaking it would lose some of that luscious depth, honestly. Although I also have to admit that The Witness is my favorite puzzle game so maybe peace was never an option. All joking aside, though, my defense for The Witness is that I think it's inspired by Myst, but it does do something different with that kind of game. Even beyond the gameplay, I kind of like that The Witness doesn't have so much a concrete story as it does things it feels like it's trying to say. I know The Witness does technically have a story, but it's minimal enough that I sort of ignore it. It just- is. It helps, I think, that the game does squeeze as much out of its format of puzzle design as you probably could. I definitely prefer Myst from a general design perspective, I think it's more interesting to have a world that feels more real and has more ways to interact with it, but I still really love The Witness in its own way (even if Jonathan Blow's comments about Myst seem like he's myst the point.) I'll also defend Myst 3 a little, but mainly because that game also looks really beautiful and it is an enjoyable enough experience with arguably the most interesting villain in the series. Uru is kind of bad though lol. I'm sure it's better in MMO form but there's something pretty soul-sucking about every Age in the game having the exact same goal, and some of them seem to barely have puzzles in them at all. Haven't gotten to 4 or 5 yet but 5 looks pretty dire. Hopefully Firmament is good. I haven't gotten to play it yet because I'm stuck with a laptop it would probably melt.

Reggie

Yo I’m new to the party. My now 60 year old parents did tell me that the only 2 games they really played back in the day were Toejam and Earl and Myst. Dad even said he finished it. But anyway yes I would love an omnibus video about the remakes & clones.

SirLawrence

Because I am agéd, I remember there were releases of the game that came with a little Myst blank notebook that was printed to look like a myst book. It was in the box when you bought it. They actively expected you to write down all the clues all the time and we did. I would bet someone in my family still has it because by the time we finished the game that thing felt like a sacred relic .

MagicKateBall

This is incredible because we were a 2 computer household and the kid's computer used floppies and we played a lot of Tass Times in Tonetown, but Myst was a Dad's Computer game. I remember being so in awe of the graphics and part of the experience was sitting in dad's comfortable computer chair in his area of the basement. Thanks for the nostalgia!

Beth Curtin

Why is Destiny playing the red book boy?

Hassgranate

I would love an omnibus Myst / Myst Clones / Myst Remastereds to watch in responsible bites over the course of a week.

A Howling Planet Of Restless Ghosts & Lesser Ghouls

In the 90s some games were literally Myst, but with an i and in German! (I will not apologize for this bilingual pun.)

A. Rhizome

This reply was a great video. I had hoped someday to see a nice video about Myst but nobody ever did it. Glad to see you filling that niche. I’m a bit disappointed though because I’m a patron and once again, though I’m signed up for the reward, my username STILL doesn’t show up in your credits…

SaintHeartwing

I can't believe I rewatched the OOF sound 5 times over the past few months instead of just tossing a few quids for a new Hbomb vid.

E. Filleul

would love the 2nd myst video lmao

LucasProbably

I'd love to see the rest of the Myst stuff, though I think it'd be kind of funny to post the discussion about the remasters/remakes on YT and plug this video as the Patreon exclusive. But I get why that may feel kind of bad, and I DO think this video is important to the discussion about Video game history and conservation. It probably should eventually migrate to YT, imo. Excellent work as always Mr. Bomberguy and Kat!! Pretty sure I could watch you guys talk about literally anything for hours, hit me with a butter deep dive and I'd be on board.

Corvidivus

Harris bomberguy, I hope you understand I need the teased video at the end ASAP!!! The whole reason im a patron is because I love your specific way of discussing opinions, and I think that a whole episode about the myst remakes would be incredible! They’re the only ones im familiar with so I’d love as long a video on that as possible!

Chloe Claypool

Awesome!

NotTucks

and now i am caught up with the Secret Patreon Goodies. this is both a good and a bad thing :^) bad, because it is nice having some fresh-to-me videos to knit along to (idk what it is, but your videos are the exact blend of soothing and entertaining that makes for really good 'watch/listen while knitting' material, and i mean this in the best way; i think i've watched through literally everything on your channel at least three times by this point?) but also good because you are a human person making things at human person speeds, and remembering that during the downtime between videos helps keep things in perspective. this myst video, for someone like me who was, for a brief period in high school, simultaneously super into myst while also frustrated to no end by its puzzles, and not into it enough to play riven even though i had ready access to it, was yet another Delightful entry into the hbg library. i think it'd be nice to release this one out into the world eventually, maybe with the myst-remakes and myst-alikes stuff as extra chapters. at the very least it'd be nice to be able to show other people just how cool this game is. but either way, myst is definitely a game that is well deserving of the loving dissection, the distillation of everything that makes it good, that is made of it here- no matter if it lives forever on patreon or eventually makes it to youtube proper.

Chraelix

I am unreasonably excited for this!

Serrin Dixon

You can certainly expect Pyst to come up IN a video!

Hbomb

I've been thinking of joining the patreon for a while now and this finally got me to hop on. I just want to say thanks for all the fantastic videos over the years and also how soon can we expect a 3 hour video about Pyst?

Sgt Kilborn

I had to come back to complain about presto studios because they committed the most heinous UX crime I’ve ever seen in Exile. I don’t know if this was a ‘thing’ in gaming at any point, but in Exile they allow you to name your save files. Then they organize them in…alphabetical order. Alpha- *ugh* ALPHABETICAL ORDER. CAUSE ITS NOT LIKE I WANT THE MOST RECENT ONE I could never remember what my most recent save file was named, it was so freakin obnoxious.

Belachanful

I have a really early memory of my dad getting as far as the channelwood windmill on an old chunky desktop computer in our unfurnished basement. I thought it was a dream for the longest time. Years later I dusted off the box found my way to that part of the game. Pretty surreal.

Olleck

I've watched this 3 times it's amazing thanks Hbomb

Jordan Hawkins

Became a patron almost exclusively because I saw this came out lol

Goose

A) kudos for making a video so perfectly about probably one of my top three most important personal games that I was basically yelling YES ITS SO GOOD every five minutes; b) I really really need that other video complaining about the completely unnecessary remasters in my life, please and thank you

Sunny Moraine

I had a bizarre opposite experience where, when my mum saw I was very interested in puzzles and videogames, she recommended me The 7th Guest as something she'd enjoyed when she was younger and I bounced off it HARD at the torturous cake dividing puzzle. So I knew Myst existed but it wasn't until 2020 that I up and played it. I enjoyed it for what it was worth but it didn't leave much of an impression (I was playing the realMyst version for Switch which probably affected it). It was actually the following month playing Obduction that I think I experienced that joyous high of going "oh THAT'S how that works!" and that game has stuck with me much more clearly.

Haydn Rhys

Back in January I had the enormous fun of setting up both Basilisk II and SheepShaver so I could enjoy some classic 68k and PPC macOS games I had glimpses of from childhood. Myst was one of them. Virtual Springfield was the other sadly :P Also, thank you for validating me, because although my wife also enjoyed Myst, she didn't enjoy me buying an Amiga 1200 a year and a half ago that's still sitting in my garage wrapped in the same fragile tape and cardboard it was posted in. If you didn't live on the mainland, I'd suspect you stole mine because I haven't been in there since I got it.

StealthCT

I for one would be delighted to watch an hour of you nitpicking the Myst remakes. This was excellent.

KTG

One benefit though, it reminded me how much I was enjoying myst before I got distracted by finals and I'm currently finishing it (on the damn tunnel puzzle though lmao)

Aurora H.

Agreed, Austin's video feels like he skimmed Hbomb's and "replayed" the game quickly to get a video out and didn't understand the nuance that comes with taking your time with the game.

Jacob Campbell

austin's take is bad ngl not worth the view

Aurora H.

I finally sat down and played Myst (in its three versions) because of this video. It truly is a great game!

Burretploof

Hey H.Bomb, Looks like Austin McConnell might be aping another video idea (or hoping to get clout by association): https://youtu.be/sdW_znqcpNY

Jacob Campbell

Was anyone else completely astonished by how good Harry's American accent was for that RealPlayer bit?

Kylo

Just for the record, I'd love another Q&A :)

Izzy Killeen

Thanks for the reply Kat! Just bumped my sub to $5 :) I need to be better about reading that fine in print in the future haha <3

SimmyWuff

I agree we need to see the Myst Remasters video. I’ve recently played realMyst and Myst Mobile, and though they’re technically better games with its 3D visuals and controls, they don’t quite capture being in Myst in quite the same way - and I can’t fathom why🤔

Chris Nicholas

This idea of mystimilism sticks with me so much, it reminds me of the first time I played dark souls. I can replay that game as much as I want but I can never truly experience it from the start again, I understand the mechanics too well and have too much in game knowledge to be a naive explorer again. Its such a powerful feeling and a great one thats hard to recreate

Justin Chaillet

Your content brings such joy to my life, and I loved this video! I haven’t thought about Myst in like a decade, and what a good romp of a reminder this was!

Jeffrey Gentile

This video should be public. It just triggered my entire brain to revisit all the Myst like games and enjoyed or got frustrated about but now I appreciate the small things much more. Thank you so much!

Fuzzy Leapfrog

Literally to this day if I am in a beautiful location and nobody else is around, I feel like I'm in Myst, that's how much that series broke me.

Martha Boatright

I am old enough that I played Myst at the age of 13 in 1997, right when Riven was coming out. Love seeing a deep dive on the design process behind it. As a woman in the late 90s, where the MC of every game was either a man or a sexy action girl, it was nice for a game where you could be you if you were neither of those things, and I loved how that continued on, which is maybe why URU didn't resonate as much for me. Riven is indeed still totally beautiful and immersive and I consider it the better sequel to Myst, in all honesty. I do like the non-Cyan games for their story and their worldbuilding, though obviously they are just more of what Myst started. Myst V is indeed the worst Myst, not just because of the stupid bleeping tablets but because the story really ended in Revelation, with URU starting something new. I didn't need to know what Yeesha was up to after that. I would absolutely love a rant on the remastered versions because I've always debated whether/which of them I wanted to retry the game on, and I'd love some advice on that.

Martha Boatright

Fantastic video. Please inject that Myst remakes video directly into my veins. I need more Hbomb x Cyan

MrChrystal

This was a fantastic video, it reminded me why I loved Myst so much way back when. Entirely randomly, I wonder if you ran across and had any thoughts about Obsidian in your survey of Myst-likes? I have a weird soft spot for it, mainly the soundtrack...

Vesta Beaumont

The whole "Inventory is your brain, you can only play it once" thing reminded me of Outer Wilds which is absolutely one of the most memorable games I've ever played, that left one hell of an impression.

Reece Spencer

Oh yeah, I forgot that! That was such a surreal moment. I liked Myst 4 despite some of it's odd choices, but that Peter Gabriel song was very strange.

Rose

Harry, thanks for doing this video, the Myst series is one of my very favorite of all time to this day, for a lot of the same reasons you mentioned. I'm surprised you didn't mention the more recent games that Cyan has come out with, considering one of them, Firmament, comes out this month. Obduction is another, that one came out a few years back, and for those who enjoyed Myst it's pretty good!

Rose

I forgot how much I hated The Witness. Also yes I would like a video about how all the Myst remakes sucked. The VR one hurt. I wanted a VR Myst so bad in 1996 and the actual release is a monkey's paw of why that would never work. It's great.

Amy Veeres

I really adored the Myst video and am now playing Riven for the first time because of it. As for a video about the Remasters, I would adore that. I'm curious what all got changed cause I'd always assumed they were mostly the same.

Kev

Okay, I played Myst after watching the first 9 minutes of this video, and I loved the vehicle section. It's frustrating to repeat to get the other page, but the solution is so fun

Gabriele Perine

Same same same, Outer Wilds is my favorite game, and I've never played Myst other than being completely stuck as a very very little kid and then never coming back. It was nice to learn that actually Myst is the spiritual predecessor and probably worth playing. Cool!

Gwemmie

Another Extraordinary video!!! I am very curious what you would think of Outer Wilds. On top of some of the most impressive real-time orbital physics in gaming, it's the only original game In recent memory to come close to the the experience of Myst. While not as perfectly designed as Myst, it's a much belated step in the right direction, and an infinitely better experience than nearly every safe triple A game nowadays you cannot seriously recall hours after finishing it. It's DLC is great too, and manages to be scarier than any Resident Evil game on a first playthrough, even after you learn everything it still feels unerving to play through! Thanks for bringing attention to this very much threatened game design ethos!!! Even if you never see this I'm rooting for you, and I do dream of a Mass Effect 2/Fallout 4 is Garbage, we need much more pivotal voices like yours! Good luck and take care!

TimmyTheRetiredTrophyHunter

If you released this on YouTube I think you would trigger a myst revival

Brian Shields

There were also talks to have a Myst theme park, but that did not come to fruition for various reasons.

Jennifer Richards

While watching this video I kept thinking about the stories from the sequels and how Achenar gets his redemption arc. I also think Atrus is kind of a terrible father, but he definitely didn't kill his sons, just destroyed the linking books to the ages where they're trapped. And, he keeps visiting them in the sequels and you can visit their prison ages. You probably already knew all of that, but I think it's worth mentioning because even though Atrus is kind of crap at parenting his first two sons, he's never on the level of his own father (seen in Riven and in the books).

Jennifer Richards

Can we please have a suite of Myst and Cyan videos?

Jennifer Richards

You get me

Kat Lo

At last, someone else who constantly tells people to play The Dig.

Moira

Great video, would love to see the sequels. Listening to this made me a little self-conscious considering my introduction to the series as a kid was Exile (came with my original Xbox), which is where you said they started trending down. I still have a lot of nostalgic love for 3 and 4, tho I think everyone can agree 5 was, and will always be, shit. Might power up Steam and revisit Riven after this. 👍🏻👍🏻

Brittany Hood

Harry you know we want that hour of nitpicking

Butty "Kent" Butterson

I’m old enough to have played myst back then, tho like too many fun things of the late eighties and early nineties, I missed it I’m sure glad I didn’t mys this video Fun! Thank you!

OnlyUkeThatMatters

The Myst/Riven approach to storytelling wasn't seen again until Dark Souls, I will die on this hill

trailwonthikeitself

I definitely need the Myst remasters video. I'm a tech enthusiast who works in tech support and enjoys troubleshooting, so spending hours nitpicking technical problems and differences is what I do for fun!

Benjamin Havens

As a 90s teen who loved Myst, Riven and even owned the full novel Trilogy in hardcover, this was the HBomb video I didn’t know I needed. Thanks for that!

Candace

Remember my da playing Myst when it came out, (first game on CD we had - or maybe that was Loom?) but I preferred Doom then, and I think the same went for my dad :)

respectinducinghyphen

I've never liked Myst but it's very interesting to hear you talk about it. Would love to hear you talk more about the later sequels, and the various remakes.

Adam Dudzinski

I hadn't played this since I was a teen either, so after getting to the spoiler check I decided I'd replay the game, this time in the form of realMyst on my switch! 🙃 This was the first time I'd ever beaten the game. Last time I played, I got stuck on D'ni and overwrote my save file, and never found the white page. This time around I literally found it by accident. It can happen!! Checkmate, atheists!!!!

herehavemykid

paused at the first spoiler check and saw myst was only like 3$ on steam, so i fell into that rabbit hole for two days. glad to have actually finally played it tho!

Remus C

Id happily watch a "why the other non Cyan developed myst games arent as good video" purely so you can talk about Peter Gabriel in Myst 4

Louis

I also joined to watch this video - Myst & Riven are some of the earliest games i remember playing and the ones which left the longest lasting memories and as you say there is not much out there about them. (also amazed i haven't joined earlier, have been following for a few years and ❤️ in particular the pathologic video & the vaccines video so it is about time i joined!)

J

Joined Patreon just to watch this video. Today's the anniversary of my father's death and one of my earliest memories was sitting in his lap and watching him play Myst. I would love to see you actually make a Must remaster comparison video. I'd like to know what the changes were you thought were for the worst. Nobody online ever seems to have actually compared them. And I'll be damned if I'm going to.

Uncoolest_Evar

Joined to Patreon to watch this. Myst and Riven are two of the very first games I remember playing as a kid (I have a formative memory of seeing my dad get the bad ending of Riven where you open the fissure too early and the whole world gets sucked into the abyss and having nightmares about it). All that to say, I really enjoyed this and am excited to see whatever bigger idea this develops into (also, would totally be down to watch a video about the various remakes which I understand are probably more accessible to modern players on the surface, but spoil a lot of the magic that made Myst so special).

David Daut

Myst!!! My mom played this game when I was a kid. I remember nothing about the game itself but I do remember her phone messages pad next to the computer with the myst puzzle answers along with her plans for her Colonization towns.

Ashley

Loved the video! Btw, there's a pretty great video by GrimBeard on Myst for your MystTube section in case you wanted to shoutout another breadtuber: https://youtu.be/JIzPuUuOq0Q

Manuel Antón

Holy fuck you're so right

Serrin Dixon

This video got me into myst and I'm thoroughly enjoying it! I'd love to learn about the (several!) remakes. It's cool that the devs value the history of their work enough to preserve several states of its existence, not just the most recent one

Serrin Dixon

I subscribed to this specifically for uncut rants about old games so I mean c'mon, let's do this!

Christopher Baggett

Channelwood in OG myst genuinely took me 5x as long than realmyst at least, even when I knew what I was supposed to be doing!!!!

Kat Lo

I'd love a full uncut rant about the remakes tbh

Marcia

I literally subbed for this video and can't express how badly I want your deconstruction of the Myst remakes

Daniel Weichman

I'd definitely be interested in a video about your thoughts about the Myst Remakes. IMO having the game in 3D kinda helps it being a bit more navigable, for example in Channelwood where it was pretty easy to get lost in the original game, and I do appreciate the accessibility feature of getting subtitles to the audio puzzles. But also, Myst 2021 is embarrassingly full of little annoying bugs. Also, what are your thoughts on Outer Wilds in the context of being a Myst-Like? IMO it puts a neat twist on the "Mind-Inventory" by literally restarting itself repeatedly.

Low_Dash

Sirrus has big Davis Aurini energy, now that I look back on it.

Nina Larson

My earliest gaming memories are of watching my dad play Doom, and watching my dad play Myst, so this was incredibly nostalgic; it's amazing how well-preserved the imagery of those games is in my memory.

Michael Halls

Wait where's the part where you rank this game on your list of objective value from best to worst? I need to know!

Ariella

When you were describing what was good about Myst and pointing out how the Witness was lacking it, my bf and I both were screaming at the screen about how it was like Outer Wilds. He was very sad it wasn't mentioned. (Not me, I do not get sad about online videos.)

wendigotypes

Amazing! Need more videos like this.

Caleb Holmes

This video is so awesome. I can't wait until the full version comes out so i can send it to my dad!

sydney marie

Thank you so much for making this - my father and I played Myst in parallel (we took turns on the family PC) back when I was about 10 and I have great memories of that time with him - also thanks for talking about the Jman Project! I love that game series, warts and all.

Andrew Niblo

Nitpicky remaster video sounds great! I’d even be happy with a copy of the script getting uploaded here if you wanted to focus on other projects. Also holy shit did I just see Jason Pargin in the Patreon credits??? The John Dies At The End guy?? That’s so fucking cool, those books are amazing

Jake Williams

Brought back memories of my dad playing through Myst and later Riven back when I was a kid in the early 00's. I don't think I ever played through it myself, but it was fun being a passenger for some of the ride. I don't think I've ever taken as many notes as he did playing through those games, definitely something pretty unique to them (at least done well enough to not become just frustrating stabbing in the dark).

CodeTako

a full length video just for us? dont make me blush !

battery acid

im very easily entertained by your content and I had a lot of fun with this video! it made me decide if i ever get a computer that just doesnt Melt when I even open steam i should give myst a proper try! i had actually heard about it previously but i hadnt realized how up my alley it would seem! i would actually be really interested in you talking about myst some more, you seem to have a lot of love for this property!

Zagreus

I would personally really love a video nitpicking all of the remasters! actually id also really like a video talking about the failed myst attempts by other people!

Zagreus

As someone who probably will never play Myst for the reasons you mentioned, I loved this video. I’ve been aware of its existence for well over a decade and wanted to appreciate but knew I couldn’t due to time and my lack of patience for these sorts of games. Thank you!

Reid Palmer + Shawna Wells

Feel free to share your work with the world HBomb! I join the others saying make this public -- appreciate you honoring your Patrons this way, but feel free to get some more channel traffic and share your thoughts!

Walter Sheppard

I am so utterly thrilled you’re covering Myst! I have such fond memories of watching my Dad work his way through all the Myst games and I still have scraps of paper with all of his puzzle notes. I was maybe 7 when I watched him play and it was great watching him somehow figure out the most esoteric of puzzles.

KC

this video didn't work for me. I played Myst, then watched the video, and felt that all of the interesting nuance of Myst was lost in your analysis. None of it, save maybe the part about the witness (though I understand you were making a joke) felt like more than surface level observation. I don't think you had anything to add to the conversation surrounding this game.

Arthur Leach

Interesting video! I feel sorry for the non-patrons, they Myst out.

RainSnail

Love this. I am old enough to have played Myst when it first released. I'd always thought Myst came out before 7th Guest - I guess I've never googled this. I enjoyed both, but only finished Myst because the 7th Guest Othello mini game had me stumped. I'm terrible at Othello. But Myst has the story and atmosphere I remember best. 7th Guest had a title song that I still find myself singing, though. Maybe that's the main reason I liked it. I remember leaving the title screen on just so it would repeat Mr Death. And yes, this could very well have been because our SoundBlaster was an amazingly cool piece of tech to me at the time. Please do share your thoughts on the Myst remakes. I've never played them but have been tempted. I'd be curious to see what you think was lost in the process of making it more modern.

Megan Johnson

Yeah, it's wonderful!

Devon

I’d love to see some time spent on Starship Titanic, the Mystlike that makes you use Douglas Adams logic, and used a pretty impressive dialogue system.

Sanson Carrasco

Oh, also, I totally subscribed to your patreon - my very first patreon at that - just because of your tease about this on Twitter the other day.

Sanson Carrasco

If you ever do rerelease this in one way or another, it could be worth noting that Myst was featured in The Getty Center in Los Angeles, a highly respected art museum. It was part of a ‘Devices of Wonder’ exhibit, iirc.

Sanson Carrasco

I would LOVE an hour long video nitpicking tiny differences between 4 different versions of the same game, please do this thing

Coleman Ellis

Past year I played RealMyst on the Switch, and it brought me a lot of memories (specially getting stuck in the same puzzle 20 years ago for the exact same dumb reason! LOL). Anyway, it really is curious to how a game can be so underrated and overrated at the same time. A hidden gem that's one of the most sold games in history. A game that has inspired dozens others, but directly referenced by pretty much none. A milestone in gaming history with zero (popular) memes... or I just haven't been looking in the right places.

CaitSeith

Can't wait for the twist that this is actually all actually about Apocalypse Now Final Cut.

Marshall Lee

I agree. It is your duty!

Chuu

YES!!! So happy to see this :D It'd be really awesome to see some Riven analysis too, which I think is the best of the series. Super happy to see you're a fan though, Myst doesn't get enough love! Also in terms of Myst-alikes, Quern is definitely the best I've played. Outer Wilds is an awesome game on its own but I wouldn't say it's trying to do what Myst did in the same way.

Vic Cooper

Amazing! Looking forward to hearing all your extra thoughts on the Myst remasters

Aidan Solomon

First you hit my family name with a crowbar in half-life and then you say that us Canadians call fuses “wiggly-woos”. All while praising a video game that terrified and confused me as a five year old trying to play it on the desktop in the basement. I feel attacked.

Moira Laidlaw

beautiful, epic, inspiring, i cried

Emma De'Montford

I can't believe H. "Arry Brewis" Bomber Guy would record and edit a ninety-minute video exclusively for us. I am glad I gave money to this cause

i was only able to beat sekiro

Wait, you're not planing on making this video public? After You have complained about the fact that there are no video essays about Myst out there? Y u no publish?

Molly the Bully

Oh hell yes!!!

Ben Palmer

I'll pitch in another vote in favor of a Myst followup at some point (whether other games in the genre, the remakes, or both).

ngonStrafe

I'm only a few minutes in and I'm already getting Mysty eyed

Colin Tougas

This is so interesting and makes me so glad I'm a patron. Also, Harry, yes of fucking course I want an unedited mega compilation of why the copycats suck. I eat those for sustenance.

Chase H

Finally became a patron for Myst-tube! Great video, but I was hoping for at least a little "Zork: The Grand Inquisitor" discourse.

VideoBrew

Oh man, there goes my evening. Thanks again for all your hard work, Harry and Crew.

Kyle Rudy

I have fond memories of playing it when I was less than 10. I also have memories of it being incredibly hard and being constantly stuck. I think I brute-forced some of it. Your video gives me hope that this game would not be as hard if I had first approached it as an adult.

Michael Tardibuono

For years back in college, “Hold the Lever Down” was our group’s inside code for “Think Outside the Box”

Sanson Carrasco

Here to echo the sentiment brought by a few others that any Myst-Alike video should absolutely feature Outer Wilds, and I would be interested in such a thing.

Bfahome

It's kind of funny to me that you lament the lack of Myst analysis on YT in the open of a video that's going to stay Patreon exclusive for the time being. It's true though, the last time I heard it mentioned, Kyle Kallgren on Brows Held High made a video about how Gerry was an art film that was surprisingly inspired by the third-person camera in an early Tomb Raider game. He brought it up in a list of games that used quiet, empty atmosphere like the film Gerry.

Crescent Minor

Hey! Send an email to contact@hbomb.zone with your patron level, email and patreon name! Thanks 😎 One thing to keep in mind is that $2 backers get access to all content, but $5 and up are the backers that get added as credits!

Kat Lo

Absolutely fantastic video, appreciated the nod to Myst Online at the end. That in itself would be a deep dive I would love to see your take on. As it is, I'd be well up for seeing your other vid ideas on the Myst remakes and clones.

Andy Marshall

I have started playing and I am very confused but I'm having fun. I really liked the gears puzzle (stopped specifically to play it without getting spoiled) and got too confused further on so I'm gonna watch more video and then go back to it tomorrow.

With Quiet Eyes

I definitely felt the being conditioned to expect a absurdly incoherent mini-puzzle only to discover there is, in fact, a wiggly-woo that needs pulling. Also did anyone else think playing Achenar’s disembodied head audio it would summon the evil dead, but with monkeys? Missed opportunity I think, especially with all those books. Great video! I especially enjoyed how thoroughly you demonstrated the quality of design with all the geeky tidbits too. It’s so well done I almost feel it’s wasted on me, and hope some actual developers see it and take note.

peachycliodhna

super happy to see Myst get some love. Myst was the first game I played on a PC. I always found the cover image of that lone island with the rocket ship, clock tower, and other odd buildings too intriguing to pass up. having played some of the remakes, It always stood out to me how the original Myst and Riven games felt larger and more real when you couldn't crawl over every inch of the environments. Edit: I'd watch a longer Myst / Myst-likes video like life-giving oxygen, the game design in these types of games hardly ever gets talked about.

Crows in a trenchcoat

A video on Myst-alikes would be great, especially Outer Wilds. I feel like it's the closest game to recapture the feeling of Myst and the whole "Knowledge Is Progression" concept. Maybe that's the video? There are a lot of games that have that as a feature (Tunic, La-Mulana, Outer Wilds), so it's maybe broader than what you're going for but something I think is really compelling

Marstead

I definitely want to hear about Myst clones and all about the various Myst rereleases!

Evan Connolly

I'd be curious to know if the changes you feel made the 2021 remake of Myst worse are also a detriment to Obduction. Or, if you feel the changes to the 2021 Myst are still a detriment when playing it in VR. Because let me tell you, Myst island in VR felt like an ancient promise being fulfilled

Dex

I absolutely want you to see you nitpick every version of Myst. There are so many ports, like 2 different bad DS versions made by different studios. I think one of those even tries to back port the last age of RealMyst into it? And speaking of RealMyst, there's a lot of contention with the day/night system of the pc version which is just missing on switch to make it probably one of the better versions of that remake. Anyway, incredible stuff dude!

Cullen Black

I remember briefly attempting this game when I was a kid, but I guess I didn't have enough of an attention span to figure out what it was about or what to do. The first few minutes of this video make me suddenly want to play it again, but now I can't watch this video, for fear of spoilers. Darn it! :P

Tormuse

If you like to get to know these games in some depth, but don't want to play yourself, check out https://www.youtube.com/@Dilandau3000 - his playthroughs are thorough and entertaining. Riven will always be the stand-out game, where I figured out the number system for myself. Never felt as smart as at that moment...

genetically enhanced chicken

About the Myst remakes video; there's NOTHING I love more than granular nitpicking. Would love a video about it. I'll even play Myst, so I can be right there with you

Em

Games like Myst are so cool but they're incredibly frustrating for people with any number of sensory limitations. Like color blindness or deafness. Which video games today are still struggling with accommodating to this day.

Duck

Having recently fallen into Obduction (another Cyan game, 2016, very true to the Myst feel and very good overall!), this video was a delight to see! Makes me wanna play Myst now haha Also, who do I reach out to in order to get my name in the Patron credits? Been subbed a lil while and haven’t seen my name yet 😅 thanks!

SimmyWuff

letting out my longest "yeah boy" ever about this one

Eirin Fakelastname

Myst and Riven broke my mind as a child, I'm now condemned to chase that high of sudden understanding for ever. If you've not read the Myst books, they do an amazing job of rounding out the universe. Every time I finish re-reading them I feel a sadness that I won't get any more. Yes, I know it's better than driving the IP into the ground and destroying something I love, but also damnit I want more stories!

David Anderson

The whole thing about having to tinker with old games and computer hit me hard, as I spend a lot of my teens in the mid 00's playing old Lucas Arts point'n'clicks (And a bunch of older PC and DOS game too) Correctly configuring DOSbox and D-Fend was always an adventure, especially since I had no patience for properly leaning it and just wanted to play the game, ironically resulting in me spending more time setting it up through trial and error. Still liked that part of the process (Even more when I started to understand what I was doing through repeated attempts) and it really helps nowadays when I try to play (or re-play) old games that are not supported anymore, it's fun. That being said, for the last 7 years, I've tried to re-launch Max Payne 1 many times and every time I spend 2+ hours trying to make it work through fan-patches, comptatibility options and whatnots, and I still can't play it again, it's pissing me off so much ! Also, concerning the absence of a barrier between the player and the player character, I think that was what quite a few early adventure games were doing. Like in most of the Zorks games, it's just YOU being in front of a white house, now go YOU, and have fun dying to a grue 8 313 times. And even later titles in the series, while having you play a actual character, were fairly light on that aspect, with Grand Inquisitor joking that you are an AFGNCAAP or "Ageless-Faceless-Gender-Neutral-Culturally-Ambiguous-Adventure-Person". That loose sense of "YOU are the main character" probably came from the CYOA root of those games tho. Well anyway, great video, loved it, could not not constantly think of John Goodman in a hot tub from Pyst while watching it, 10/10.

WTHellias

As a certified non-gamer, I love to see these videos about games I could never play without getting frustrated and ragequitting immediately. Really interesting! The amount of detail about the art direction and coding of the game was particularly satisfying to have pointed out. Like oh! That makes sense! I'm glad I see that now! Personally I'm pro- "release a free version of this video" because I just really enjoyed it and would like my friends to be able to see it too

Danny Couch

This is exciting and well-timed for the buildup to Cyan's upcoming new game!

Brian Maynard

Love it, Myst is an absolute classic and deserves more attention! I definitely remember watching or reading something fairly in-depth about Myst but it was a couple of years ago now, and I could not find anything in my YouTube history...

dysgregulated

big surprise to get a patreon only full length video, much appreciated!

William Kim

Ooh, fun, another video to add to my list of 'videos to watch after I've played the game' - and a game for the corresponding list. /o\

Psi

Oh man maybe my math degree will finally be useful

Kat Lo

I’m curious about your opinion on the remasters. Also, my favorite Myst game is The Looker.

Jesse Dusk

I've never heard of Myst before in my life, but this was a fascinating watch. It really felt like your Pathologic video, which is one I've rewatched many times

Alexandra Field 🐾

8 minutes in i'm told my tiny brain has to actually finish the bloody game OOF 😔 😔 😔

ALL GOOD ALL GOOD

Personally wouldn't mind if you became a dedicated Myst channel. But maybe just about 4 more "short" videos on Myst and a further 6 on Riven might be enough ;) Thanks for making this :)

Tomas Nieboer

This was such a fun video to watch. Myst and Riven had a huge impact on me in my adolescence, and my experience echos a lot do what you pointed out here. Thank you for making such a detailed love letter to this game.

Graham Taylor

Please oh please 🙏 my one request, when you talk about Myst-likes, is to bring up and talk about Outer Wilds 🙏🙏 Very good video thank you for the food 🙏🙏🙏

Viva Reverie

I like how every video you make is long and excellent and yet, you always apologize for making it that way. "I'm sorry I gave you a feast, I really meant to give you an appetizer."

Noblesse Oblahaj

I absolutely loved the video. The Myst series is near and dear to my heart and seeing that you used D'ni numbers for chapter marks made me really happy.

Low_Dash

Really gotta say thanks Harry, was having a really not great start to my week and seeing this posted gave me something to look forward to at the end of a rough work day. Also, the way you pronounce D'ni sounds like the Australian slang for toilet

Book_freak

This video was great and should totally go out to the wider public! Look forward to seeing whatever comes next

James Yaxley

this video was so much fun! I haven't played myst but this was fascinating. I'm only getting into gaming lately, so I think I'll try and not rewatch this video for a long while, play myst when I've mostly forgotten this and then rewatch. but also, I would love to have continuation videos. I really love your videos regarding video games because even though I don't have much experience with them, you make interesting criticisms and observations in a way that inspires me to look differently on art in general and on the way I create my own stuff. great job as always harry, thank you!!

Jordy

Be great to have a video on the other versions on myst!

Luke

As recommended, I'm going to go away and play the game through before watching the rest of the video! (Even if I'm probably gonna have to look up tutorials at some point, from the look of it)

With Quiet Eyes

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS time to spend over an hour watching a video on another game i've never heard of

Mannekwin

This video has me saying "why is Harry not a mathematician" every 5 minutes. The feeling you spend the whole video describing is exactly what learning and writing proofs in mathematics is like. All day every day for those who do it for a living

David Farrell

Lmao it's extremely cheeky that while talking about how well Riven has aged you deliberately cut away from the underwater log cart section given that particular cutscene has aged like fine 120p milk. (FWIW they can't do a HD re-release because they lost the original assets which is very unfortunate.)

Lexi

I love this! And I'm super down to watch the video about the myst sequels/spinoffs; it sounds super fun. (also I got the patreon email right when I was about to go to bed but I couldn't not watch it so now it's past midnight oops.) Oh, and I loved the pathologic reference!

Ariella

The mysticism haha built around this game is so strong that this is the only video where i've ever decided to myself, "yeah, I am gonna go stop and play this game" when the first spoiler warning came up.

Aurora H.

One thing you didn't mention (I think) that is in the text (I think?) is the fact that much of what Myst was, in universe, is a set of world meant to teach Atrus's sons. The idea that it is something where your understanding builds is diegetic, and that's really fucking cool. It's the rare rebuttal of the super overplayed ludonarrative dissonance. The gameplay is incredibly locked into the narrative in a way I adore.

JCalder

Christ I loved this. I kept pausing to tell my wife about my experiences with the game. I predicted your "breaker" story because my dad, an electrical engineer, did that shit when I watched him play as a 5 year old. The need for Myst content is sincerely felt -- Riven and Exile are also underrepresented.

JCalder

hey i was just coming here to mention Outer Wilds! Well. For me, Outer Wilds is the Best Game, and this video (great video, Harry!) helped deepen my sense of why. I missed Myst somehow but want to give it a shot. I'll do my best to obliterate my memory of the gear puzzle solution.

GC

we live in a post myst world, so post myst

Elaine Smith

One reason Myst sold so well was its graphics. People bought it to boot up and show how good their graphics cards were or whatever, then Doom came out with its real-time 3D and people moved to buying that instead. I've seen that given as the reason adventure games like Myst fell out of fashion and FPS games took the lead. I know I wouldn't enjoy Myst purely for the first-person perspective, which creeps me out, especially in an empty world like that. It doesn't help that, for the longest time, all I knew about Myst was a joke in one of its contemporaries, Curse of Monkey Island: "I like mist. I think it's pretty." "Oh SURE, mist is PRETTY. But egad is it dull!" But, if you enjoy Myst, I'm certain you will also like The Dig. But do be kind of the turtle skeleton puzzle, it is famously overly difficult. D'ni? Excuse me sir, they are clearly saying 'dunny' there. xD

Beth C

Ah, Myst. I have very fond memories not of the game per se, but of the time when our household had the only com-puu-tor in the neighborhood and all the little urchins came around with disks they'd borrowed off the nerdier adults in their lives. Many hours of clicking through that The Way Things Work cd-rom encyclopedia with the silly mammoth, does anyone else remember that? Anyway yes, Myst. We played it. We didn't speak a word of English at the time, and we didn't solve a single puzzle, and I can't swear we even realized there were puzzles to solve. All I remember is bunnyhopping across this amazing world inside a machine, giddy with excitement at how incredible it was to have a book AND a movie all rolled into one and what else might be possible? Also there was a blurb on the back of the box which included the phrase "my worst" which translates to "me sausage" in Dutch so every time we bunnyhopped we said "ow me sausage" and tittered like delightful scamps.

Clementine Danger

29:10 is when I stopped the video because I realized I was gonna have to play through it for myself. Really enjoyable so far. So good I think it'd be a pity to not release it to non-Patrons tbh. If anyone has any strong opinions on Myst v Real Myst v Myst (2021) I'd be curious to hear them.

Jack Hodgkinson

Myst is a game I've seen so many people reference over the years, but couldn't get running when I was 13 and never gave another try. It's easy to see why it's left such an impression. Have you ever taken a look at Outer Wilds? It's the only game I've played that comes even close to achieving the same incredibly satisfying world-interaction eureka moments Myst is tailor made to provide, and it does an incredibly good job of it. It's a game I would highly recommend on its' own merits, but especially now in the context of it being, if not a spiritual successor, then a game that seems to have genuinely learned the lessons Must had to teach and created its own world with them. I can't recommend Outer Wilds highly enough, it's a truly fantastic game.

SerSnufflesTheStalwart

I can't watch this now because it's half-six in the morning and I gotta work, but I am looking forward to it. I would love a followup on Myst clones, a friend of mine has gotten me deep into the subject recently

Sedric And Charlie

I just properly fell in love with myst and riven a few months ago, and as a designer it's nice to see you articulate what makes those games so special. If you do a public release of this video, which I think is a good idea, my higher level feedback would be, I think you touched upon myst-clones/adjacent games pretty well in this, and I think those criticisms would work better on expanded upon in this video than in a seperate thing. I also think a proper introduction and light discussion of riven (assuming you don't just make a video about it) would be a good addition. Looking at the design landscape around myst, the things riven gets right are just as if not more important than myst's contemporaries gets wrong, and I think it'd serve as a great point of contrast. Riven also just, broadly deserves to be discussed more IMO because it's that really special kind of art where an individual or group do something brilliant and unique, and then follow it up with with something just as brilliant and unique that also builds on their previous work in a really powerful way.

Gabi Mismash

I'd love to see you explore and compare Myst-alikes! I've been playing a bunch of them with a friend, it's really a thing of ours, so it has a lot of headspace here.

Merijn van Tooren

hey hbomb, thanks for the video <3 i haven't watched it quite yet but i wanted to ask, as an employee at cyan, can i share this with the company even though they aren't patreon backers? we saw the teaser on twitter and we've been eager to see it!

Norah Porter

my dad played myst alot and i remember booting it up once as a kid and being completely bewildered so im really excited for this video.

Will E.

More Myst content! (please)

Elise & Thomas Constantine

Kyle Kallgren did a let's play of Myst back in 2020, that I think is the closest we had to a video essay on the game before now

Subspace Jet Witch

oh my god. for ages ive had a vague memory of playing an obscure computer game that only had a cryptic instruction manual in it and getting lost on an island where i had no idea what to do and i thought i was insane?? i think i played this as a way too young child?? oh my god i need to figure this out by tracking down a german copy immediately but already thank you

Calysto

I'm interested in the complaint video

A_Blinkin'

My partner and I are too young to remember Myst, but they said it looks a bit like Eastshade. Love a weird little island game :)

Tedward

I've been a massive Myst fan for basically my entire life (25 and grew up on it from age 3) so seeing this is almost kinda validating in a way, and I'd love to see more videos from you about Myst-alikes or remasters or whatever. Thanks a bunch!

An Actual Dragon

"We take the concept of sound and speakers for granted now." I literally just installed a new speaker system into my TV today when I watched this video. It took me all of 10 minutes to unbox it, plug it in, and tell my TV to connect to it. XD

Lord TyBreaker

stoked to watcht his tomorrow at work, but wanted to get in that as great as Myst was, the Myst-like that I enjoyed teh most when I was in middleschool was a Sierra game called Lighthouse. It was one of the first times I'd ever seen really inventive sci-fi concepts based on real world theories in a game, however the puzzles were dogshit and mostly solved by finding answers in an AOL group chat.

Howard 'Owenlars2'

me @ myself: you can't keep making room in your personality for HBOMB'S PERSONALITY every time he talks about a fun video game also me: [sees the way literally one puzzle works] me, now googling where to buy myst: you still have so much dignity king its ok you really do

james evelyn

Don't hold out on me, man! I *need* more Myst-adjacent videos from the content pipe and I really do want to be told why I am wrong for preferring RealMyst.

Literally Tim

Ah yes, time to fall madly in love with another video game I've never heard of and will never play!

Marcus Bolton

This was a delight, me and an old high school friend of mine just played through all of them together and had a blast. The analysis with historical and cultural context was fantastic and extremely thought provoking. It truly was a fascinating time in the evolution of game design. I would also absolutely die to hear the nitpicks of the remakes cause holy shit

Belachanful

You should make this video public whenever you feel comfortable doing so I think, both because of what you mentioned about Myst not having video essays out there (I had no idea it was this good because I played it too young and all the memes made it seem inscrutable) and because your long videogame essays are a constant source of calming energy for me, and they were so while I didn't have any money to support no one on patreon (I just found a good job last week after years searching yay!) so I bet it'll help out some folks like me who maybe can't afford it by making their "Hbomb Comfortwatch" playlists a little bit longer. Also by god yes I want that Mystalikes video, negative content might be overcrowded on youtube, but there is a catharsis you don't get anywhere else when someone does a sanity check on more modern gaming trends that people seem to have just gotten too used to to even notice.

David Rodríguez Madriñán

Actually in Canada we use both fuse and breaker, as is our way.

Mady, you know, from TV

you really sold me on myst with the "it's like setting up a computer" section. installing things and moving things and extraction and copying and deleting are so much fun in their own right! it's like doing a puzzle but the results are beneficial in a way distinct from the effort. (i am addicted to installing custom firmware on video game consoles) also the visual style of sirrus' recordings remind me of the sovereign from the venture bros. i wonder if it was intentional or a coincidence

acidic

Epic!!! I’ve never played Myst (it’s about ten years older than me), but some of what you describe makes me wonder if you’ve ever played The Secret of the Obra Dinn (might have that title slightly off). Fantastic puzzle / *myst*ery game (sorry, had to do it).

Roger Gawne

Really loved that video, having finally gone back and finished Myst a couple of years back and gone "oh wow this actually is good". If it's public then that makes it easier for me to make people who have preconceived notions about Myst being bad watch it and realise their errors, haha. Also for what it's worth I'd love to see a video about the differences in the various remakes, I am all about the pedantry inherent in that exercise!

Millie

I don't think I ever played more than like 10 minutes of Myst, but I think I spent like 10 hours as a kid wandering around in The Manhole trying to figure out what I was meant to be doing. I mean I'm aware now all of the game takes less than an hour, but I kept wandering around thinking something else was going to happen.

Rory Blank

I hope you post this for the public folks as soon as you feel ready, most of us don't mind I would imagine lol great video!

Tsushi

Ahhhhh!!! This is so exciting!!! Thank you so much I feel so special getting a video just for us! Everything you have in the works sounds amazing, I'll wait however long it takes for you to make work you're happy with, this stuff is so high effort.

Ruby Ann

Just this morning I was thinking we were overdue for a I-promise-it-was-supposed-to-be-short-and-quick video. So excited to watch this!

Lisa Yuan

Aww yess. Finally hbomb is vindicating my Myst tattoo, shirt, hat, pin, and deluxe anniversary edition linking book.

Sìne Watson

Dad finally came back after getting cigarettes

The Brad Show

oh good i didnt need to sleep anyway!

AlexisAthena

Would definitely be interested in that video on Myst Remakes - my first experience with it was RealMyst, which was Myst converted into a first person walkemup, which feels like a wild way to experience that game for the first time

CrimesOptimal

thank you, excited for this as well as a new main channel video. your perspective is so valuable to me. i love how your criticism and media analysis has evolved over the years, it was always adept but is now so masterful. its really helped me see media in different ways over the years. thank you

Creamer

I just made a noise only dogs could hear. Myst was the first game that I ever really became obsessed with, like started buying and reading the books, (even though they went right over my head because I was like, 8) had the posters and the soundtracks, and just understood that video games could be something more than sidescrolling and punching. Even if it meant screaming at a lever for three hours because I just. couldn't. get. it. thank you so much for this!

Azzinita

the importance of fishing minigames so true, this is why final fantasy xv is good actually (I universally hate fishing minigames. I do love ffxv tho that bit wasn’t a joke)

Kaz

Gonna Watch this while I block every single fucking annoying Twitter Blue User! Thanks, HBomb!

SoThatsDevintart’s p Personal Email

I know it was a joke but there is a resurgence of Myst on tiktok right now.

this fish flies

Only an hour and a half? Is this going onto YouTube Shorts?

Maurice (The Space Cowboy) Pete

Harry, you are my favourite youtuber, and your videos are my happy place. On any subject. You improve the world's mental health, you champion.

Nik Pinski

This is a dream come true, i am always gushing about myst to everyone that will listen

Erika Stewart

87 minutes? Wasn't expecting short-form content by you but I'm still happy!

Pony Slaystation

I played through Myst for the first time in ages recently and it's so so good still lol, very excited to watch this video

Stephen Hero

Holy shit. It is a good day!

A Baby Loaf of Tillamook Smoked Medium Cheddar

Oh sweet!

Michael Llaneza

Awesome! What a lovely way to end the day for me. Thank you!

Lana Robert


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