Backer Version - Flat Earthers: A Measured Response

I loved this video. It makes me so glad I give you money. As for the sound / music, uhhh. I don't think I can really give any advice because I'm a weirdo with weird tastes so whatever I suggest will probably not be helpful. Having said that, I think your choice of music is fine. To me, music in a youtube video should be chosen to fit whatever tone, emotion, or idea that your video is making. As in like, if you're being comedic your song should fit that comedic tone, if you're being angry the song should fit in with your anger, etc etc. I...I mean you're a talented lad, you already know this and know what I'm getting at and could probably explain it much better than I. The point is, I think you're doing what I said already pretty fine. Your choice of music never seems out of place or distracting and kinda fits with whatever point you're trying to make. The only real flaw is that I sometimes don't even notice it? I mean I hear it but don't remember it or recognize it at all. But uhh, I don't really watch your content for the music so....yeah.

I should pay more attention to Patreon. I saw the new video on YouTube yesterday and have been waiting patiently for 3pm today so I can watch it, and all this time it's been available here.

I didn't really notice the music, so I can promise it doesn't distract from the video.

54 minutes straight of happy ukulele

jacob cummings

hey hbomb if you want I can make azimuthal projections from any point with arcgis, for the lols

Maria Neptune

Hi! Bit late for a comment, I realize, but I figured I'd take it on anyway to. . . develop the habit, I dunno. But I thought the video covered the range of arguments nicely, didn't poke fun where it didn't need to be poked, and was quite cogent in its arguments. The end wraparound where you talk about the really interesting bit-- the philosophy behind refusing to accept what you're told simply because you've been told it, wanting to know more and think skeptically and scientifically-- is a really good one, and could do with a bit more attention and development, but that's the only constructive critique I can offer at the moment. As for muzak, the whole HBomb "series" has been pretty eclectic in style, and I quite like how that's reflected in your music choice, as well. Thanks for the excellent vid!

Aww, you could have made many more arguments. Everyone definitely knew that the earth was spherical dating back to at least 500 BC, and we were accurately able to measure its circumference around 200 BC from differentiating the length of shadows. The reason why Columbus was laughed at was not because everyone believed that the earth was flat and he is the only one who thought it was round, but rather because everyone knew how big it is, thus deeming the journey impossible, and he was severely underestimating its size. Looking at the stars, in the northern and in the southern hemisphere you see completely different constellations, and the more latitudinally you move, the greater the difference. The curvature of the Earth is easily observable from looking at the sailing ships, they will always disappear bottom first. The shadow of the Earth during a lunar eclipse is always circular, no matter where or when you observe it. I am kind of curious what their arguments would be in regards to all of this, and as someone who specializes in star formation, what would their arguments for the formation of the solar systems be, but not enough to watch their videos.

this was the first hbomb video that i thought added nothing to any conversation. way too long for how little it attempts to tackle, just limply prodding at flat earthers for the dullards they are. philosophytube tackled this subject in a much more interesting way in less than half the time. was hoping we'd dive into more of that in this video but got a visual gag instead, that was when i just stopped watching it.

nukasu

wowww

Hbomb

decided to cut the phone part. oh well, maybe it'll make a nice outtake. thanks!

Hbomb

no thanks - its very distracting, it's in the source video. i moved the image up to hide it

Hbomb

thanks to you and the several others who advised this. Just added this now.

Hbomb

would love to

Hbomb

I didn't even notice I'd done that, thanks so much for pointing this out

Hbomb

oh my god that's amazing. i really hope he sees this video and responds to his portrayal, that would be really funny

Hbomb

I fought really hard not to turn this whole video into a fun lecture about map information and I did a rant at the end where I bring that up, I might have to put that back in now - or at least put it up in a bonus video so you know i thought about it

Hbomb

thanks, just rectified that!

Hbomb

Really well done but not my favourite video of yours. I don't understand the point of Chapter 4, it kinda leads nowhere. Also I think the video could be trimmed down if you removed the character driven jokey bits that feel more like outtakes (the telephone hurting your hand, the story about your mate's broken printer and so on). The second half of the video is spot on and really well done. Also I think the music is just fine. Thanks and keep up the good work. Very glad I became a patron.

Surprised by the lack of B. O. B. jams in this video but honestly... I get it

Stephanie ffs

It sounds great, but you were incorrect not to include a track from Kubrick's 2001. You know the one. Also I backed you and a few other of the objectively best youtubers, thus breaking my Patreon cherry, in not insignificant part to spite the people boycotting Patreon for their dumping Sargon. So haha the Invisible Hand saves the day again. Enjoy your whore's gold. Seriously, keep up the amazing work, this made my week and I have no doubt I am not alone. You have put something positive out there and made the world a better place. Thank you Hbomb :)

The Worm's Hole

Add me as Zemyla. Also, are you planning to have someone write captions for your videos? I'm somewhat hard of hearing, and while the autogenerated captions do often help, they sometimes don't do enough.

Zemyla

I am not triggered by that personally, but yeah, I am definitely a person who puts these on as background noise and that could be jarring.

Jenlifer Fronester

I will gladly help fund a full music video for that ending song

Joan~

I rudely slid into your Twitter DM's with this yesterday (sorry), but the one big thing that's probably been suggested is an audio warning for the T slur coming up. I have a couple of friends who listen to your videos when going to sleep, so it's possible that someone who's likely to be hurt by that might not know it's coming up. Also this is the first time I've managed to watch the backer only version and I'm really interested in seeing the changes between this and the final version.

Gary Marshall

I don’t get why a flat-earther would spend time trying to disprove the curvature of the earth. If we lived on a disc wouldn’t the edge still look more curved the higher you got? I tried it with a dinner plate. I felt my mind expand. The gears of reality started turning in reverse. I got gravy in my eyes.

Roman Draws

Great video as always! I hope that my patreon pledge doesn't get used as proof that you're in on an international conspiracy (haha). I've enjoyed your channel since the first measured response videos, the production value and effort that goes into each one has never ceased to impress me.

When you reference “Flat Earthers use the same four points over and over again” and “That scene from West Wing” I wish you would elaborate on those two points, it feels like I’m missing some key information. Other than that, great video!

Hi Mr. Hbomb! I'm a $10 patron and I'm hoping to make it into the credits this go 'round ^_^ I don't want to pester you since I know you've been going through stuff, but you sort of asked us to, sooooo, if you do add me you can as Madeline Bain Hope you get to feeling well!

Lightcraft Mini Paint Studio

The music I noticed most was the frantic, discordant kazoos under some of the wilder flat earth claims and I thought that was a nice touch that was not as distracting as one would expect a kazoo to be, and it set a fun mood. I don't know if that was the old video game soundtrack you mentioned but I think you should definitely keep them.

Shawna Lee

Hey I changed my name here and I was wondering if it'll make it into the video, I hope so. It was great btw, I absolutely don't mind watching hours of you disproving people that are horribly wrong or gush about stuff you like. I really adore your content and I wish you a great new year!

SausageSalad

I don't know how I missed this into now but now it's 3am and I have to watch tomorrow. the worst day

alexis

I love the music in this video!! I dont know how useful that is as feedback, but I thought it was neat!

The Fallout 76 caller was Jen, wasn't it?

Hey! I've been a $10 patron for a while now (at least 6 months?) but I haven't been in any of the credits for your videos yet. It's not a big deal (I give to your Patreon because I like your videos, not because of the credits) but I just thought I'd ask about it. Thanks :)

Love the vid but the length of that fuckin flute dragonforce thing made my brain turn inside out

I don’t have any notes but i wanted to say that that carpenter brut album is fire.

The different kinds of music made it easier for me to stay attentive for your wonderful video.

"At least under feudalism we all had job security." Don't know why but I find that one line really damn funny.

Great as always! Music wise I suggest Man On The Moon by REM, Around the World by Daft Punk and Intergalactic by Beastie Boys.

Right after watching this I looked at my emails where I found a nintendo spam thing calling smash bros the 'ultimate crossover' and I'm just laughing to myself about how wrong they are.

Good Jam

I really loved the crazy horns you used during the end when you finally were pushed over the edge, that was quite something.

2:35 cheeky shaun cameo

Melody Williamson

Cheers!

Hbomb

Hey HBomb, I'm a music producer by trade and I have some thoughts on this one but I don't want to overwhelm these comments with details so I'll send you a PM here...

ThatKat

Great Job!

Hell yes, I loved it. Patreon money well spent. Just one thing: Not sure if it's because of copyright reasons (and the video is already very long), but you included less clips about the subject you are responding to this time, and I kinda missed them

Loved the music towards the end especially, and the whole lunar landing bit was a great break from the rest of the scientific stuff.

Wakelyn

I also didn't find the video condescending in any way. I don't think you're saying everyone will inevitably become Marxists as someone suggested here but that people will hopefully figure out what is the real problem in society. But honestly I didn't think this was your best video, this is my first backer edition that I've watched so maybe I'm used to more streamlined content, but I did think it dragged a lot at the beginning and somewhat in the middle, with the end being a good length (and I enjoyed the intertextuality of LeftTube).

Hey Harry, I thought the intro and up to chapter 3 of this video wasn't very good. I didn't think it had a proper introduction, it just started off by watching the flat eaters video and pausing to make comments. Its not the longest section obviously but its not the most engaging. I think that Chapter 4 could actually be a very good introduction, or at least elements of it. One small tidbit is I think the part where you push the globe off your desk would be perfect, if followed up by the titlescreen (where you show your name).

Hope you're doin okay, gosh. I think you're doin great here - I know some folks have mentioned the joke about multiple takes perhaps drawing thin but I've always found them funny in a, like, reassuring and humanizing way. Also the music sounds fine?

Samael

1. The bit about the fighter jet does feel too long 2. Up is not jump is amazing, but why did you need him when THAT FUCKING DESK IS THE REAL PROOF OF WAVE PROPAGATION? (this isn't a crit really it's just annoying. Wobble) 3. Chapter 9 is too loose, too much actual painful content, there isn't a lot of breaking down what they are saying (because it doesn't actually make sense) but then there should be a *lot* less of it or it's just a dunk video and isn't actually funny. 4. The conclusion lead-in anti-vax joke feels extra and out of nowhere? See the dunk video point, they are a bottom barrel target. Which would be fine but it doesn't really land and you just seem slightly angry and mean spirited about it. 5. Jokingly grappling with the desire to dunk on Mark Sargent after a whole chapter of chaos dunking on flat earthers feels out of place. 6. Liked the political content, but it continues a trend with some of the other asides where you have a few other video concepts here which have not yet crystallized yet, and you are either unaware, making this video worse by setting them up for the future, or don't feel confident making a video about despite being on your mind. a 20 minute Hbomberguy video talking about climate denial, ending on a marxist reading of the problem and a silly joke would be awesome! but it's much less likely if the ending stays as it and that's not awesome. 7. Sobek jokes are kinda funny, but ironically don't build a solid foundation OR work toward a single point super well. Unlike the pyramids. 8. Less meandering self-deprecation please, it feels less of a surprise when it's punctuation, particularly early on. The music was good, but likewise suffers for the length by being more sparse than it should be and it doesn't really feel like the mix keeps a single tone or move with the context of the video, which leads to some parts feeling more extraneous.

Ash Rose

Didn't much mind the soundtrack choices but if you need further selections to choose from in the future this one might serve a purpose somewhere down the line. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peuTnilEv9g" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peuTnilEv9g</a>

Vox Valentine

The end credits music is fantastic

I thought the music was quite pleasing to Lord Sobek.

Phaos

I thought the music was great (especially the effect in the train shot at 41:59). If I could suggest a change it would be that the second Mark Sargent bit (in the conclusion) is a little gratuitous and feels out of place. I think the closer the first sequence surrounding Olly is with talking about his actual points (say 47:00 on, because the skeleton fall is hilarious) the better.

Whatever you do, PLEASE keep the kicking the globe bit where you break the prop. I woke up my neighbors by laughing so hard. Also, don't worry about long run-times. I usually put all your 45+ min videos in a playlist and have them run in the background when I work.

Andrew H

The music was great. All hail lord sobek.

Mallory Allen

I really liked it! I honestly don't mind the length, and the conclusion is really great, not condescending at all.

Azzinita

(without government regulation, the free market self-destructs into a flaming pile of pollution, monopolies and cronyism)

Jason Pargin

I actually liked the music at the beginning. It made for a nice juxtaposition to the usual music coming in right after. I thought the music was pretty good throughout personally.

I love your videos so very much, even though we so profoundly disagree on things! Like I'd say the comparison to believing in a beneficial free market is perfect, but from the flipside. If you go by "books" and "data" and "experts" other boring shit you find out that 1.5 billion people have been lifted out of poverty in the last 50 years by the free market, and that standard of living on earth has skyrocketed along with the rise of globalism: <a href="https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty.</a> BUT if you just use your eyes, you see that your friends are struggling and the infrastructure in your neighborhood is subpar, and that the people around you are very afraid and dissatisfied - the equivalent of a flat earther just going by what they see. It's a trait that all humans share, including me - we tend to believe what we perceive with our five senses rather than what experts are telling us (I mean, look at my diet). But make no mistake - the economic boom in Bangladesh (once one of the most infamously poor places on earth) isn't being driven by Marxism - it's being driven by jobs and factories and exports: <a href="https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Cover-Story/The-rise-and-rise-of-Bangladesh." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Cover-Story/The-rise-and-rise-of-Bangladesh.</a> The well-regulated free market is, according to every piece of data available to us, the greatest poverty-fighting tool in the history of the species.

Jason Pargin

The drums in some of the tracks behind you talking are too busy in my opinion. Not enough to be distracting but enough to not quite mesh with your voice if you know what I mean. Otherwise this was a good video! Perhaps a few too many instances of the "I'll cut this word early for comedic effect"

Alina Marquardt

i really liked this video, but the conclusion at the end seemed rather condescending in the sense that people’s conversion to radical marxism is inevitable. it very much comes across as a shameless recruitment attempt to me. thanks

I agree with this. It really doesn't need the sequence of jokes there, better to dive in sooner.

Stumpy Frog Records

The Music at the start was off, the rest did quite well but the first 18 seconds or so is... strange.

Jan Meyer

The intro does drag a bit.

Needs more Eric Taxxon! I'm loving all of Little Spoon atm. I did think that you don't need the background music during the meat of the segments tho as if I notice it the music it's distracting unless... are you subliminally making me like your videos with things I don't even notice! This is how the reptiles get you! The Jazzy bits are a good fit and add a nice "clowning" feel which I thinks fits your reptilian purposes.

I don't know shit about editing but honestly, after waiting 3 months for a new vid, it would be nice to see the bulk of this video surviving. Maybe split it into two parts? Oh and your conclusion was a beautiful thing - loved it!

music was good really enjoyed the horns during the fuck it its christmas eve part.

heard the love canon cover of africa? banjos AND mandolins.

also, my trans ass straight-up fucking cackled when you were discussing the conspiracies surrounding the main flat-earther lady. god forbid women not look like barbie dolls. "she looks old enough that i can legally fuck her so she must be a FAKE"

i heard my city named (perth) and yelled and that's a summary of how i (and all australians watching) feel towards this. also know a few gold-hoarding, cult-y flat-earthers through other mates and it definitely seems at least partially anti-establishment in nature. especially as few, if any, flat earthers actually have the education in science to understand the world, so it becomes a case of ignorant people raging against the dominant social machine because something in them can't stand moving with the grain of wider society. in other words they're a rebrand of other conspiracy theory groups, just a different type of nut. good vid anyhow.

music was pretty good, maybe the balance was a bit off at times. Like i only noticed some parts had background music when i switched to headphones, so it may need some more gain? maybe

Honestly I really enjoyed the music in this video!

wibbly woo! Overall I thought the music works really well. Although I wasn't too fond of the music that starts at around 45:00, it fits with the video, I just think it goes on for a little too long. Did you find any massage places in Swindon in the end?

Llewelyn 'NylePudding' Griffiths

pause the video at 32:30 then play the philosophy tube video on another window while unplausing this one at the same time to make the scene at 42:06 play on both windows

was the one guy who said oblate stephen fry on qi

Sam Scott

moar chaphop in the videos maybe? also i am that embarrassing, annoying lefttuber.

this was posted at 420.. nice. it funny weed number

Kathrine Iversen

I only noticed the music 'cause I thought "ooh, this is different, I like it." Fantastic video, Harry. Can't wait for the release so I can throw it at my friends until they submit to Sobek, our Great Lord of Semen.

I thought the music was okay, didn't feel out of place for the video. I will say that your gags work brilliantly, the booting the globe bit kept me laughing for few minutes through your talk of the flat earth map.

Tim Stoddard

Actual Cat Harris Bomberguy

Molly McDade

I didn’t really notice the music very much but it’d be good if you played some Chap Hop in it, perhaps in the clip after you remember chap hop exists

Molly McDade

The Dark Lord has returned

i love the music! i was playing the world ends with you on mute while watching this and something didn't click in my brain and i just thought your bgm was the bgm from the game? surreal experience, thought the universe was gaslighting me, 10/10. i really liked all the jokes personally! laughed much and out loud alone in my room at "i'm up to date on all my vaccinations so i'm legally in a coma"

(Gay) Rosencrantz

Credit song replaced by because from the Beatles. Because the world is round.<a href="https://youtu.be/WeH-vLMfYYw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/WeH-vLMfYYw</a>

I found it, but he'd seen it already XD

Kilo Lima Oscar

Your conclusion is spot-on. The degradation and alienation engendered by capitalism produces an isolated and bewildered population craving to make sense of this complicated world and grasping for answers to questions most people can’t even articulate. Conspiracy theories give confused and alienated people the satisfaction of feeling correct and the security of knowing the truth without having to do the hard work of research, suffer the anxiety of doubt, or engage in the necessary struggle to change the world and make things better. They allow relatively privileged people the opportunity to LARP as dissidents and revolutionaries while preserving their conventional opinions and bourgeois lifestyles. Conspiracy theories fill in the gap left by an absence of an organized and explicitly socialist opposition to the status quo. They’ve become an outlet for dumb people to feel smart and live out their childhood hero fantasies while escaping from the horrifying cruelties and brutalities of the modern world. They’re a refusal to accept the enormity of the challenges humanity faces and instead encourage a retreat into keyboard pontificating and live-action role-playing. With that said, what struck me as most interesting and relevant is the symmetry between flat eartherism and other conspiracy theories, specifically far-right propaganda. All conspiracy theories share the same format; a playbook that all crackpots and con artists pull from. The symmetry is twofold: flat earthers and far-right propagandists employ the same rhetorical tactics/theatrics to recruit (e.g. “Flat Earth Deniers Fear the TRUTH!”, “Leftist PWNED by FACTS &amp; LOGIC!”) and they have the same ideological structure (i.e. a cabal of (((elites))) hiding the truth and misleading the masses). First, you made a great point calling out how that obnoxious guy was acting like Ben Shapiro in accosting innocent bystanders and then declaring victory. This theatrical display of debate dominance can be called performative rationality – the style of rational argumentation in lieu of its substance – and is a staple among reactionary charlatans (e.g. Jordan Peterson). Second, because it fosters the same paranoid and credulous mindset, its easy to see how flat eartherism can segue into fanatical bigotry. A shadowy cabal of elites (e.g. Illuminati, Masons, Rothchilds, Soros, Globalists) has long been a placeholder for Jews. I am not surprised that one flat earther turned out to be a Holocaust-denying neo-Nazi or that the community has rampant misogyny. It’s fun to ridicule these ludicrous conspiracy theories but they can actually be quite dangerous because they operate in the same way (and suck in the same unstable people) as fascist conspiracy theories like “White genocide” or “Cultural Marxism”.

I'm relieved you added the reflection about the existential motivations of flat-earthers in the last ten minutes, but I remain critical of your approach of the subject. When it comes to flat-Earth, I feel people are often focused on disproving flat-earthers and/or making easy jokes about them. I believe the problem is much larger. The success of flat-earth can at least be attributed to the ignorance of basic epistemology (as for a lot of pseudo-sciences), which should be taught in our school systems. The world-wide economic policies of austerity have deep impact on many aspects of our life, raising inequalities including regarding education. In a public well-funded education, the bases of sciences (including social sciences) should be taught, it should be an individual right in the same that everyone should have access to fact-based sex-education. This is aggravated by how science has professionalized itself in the last centuries and how experts are given a huge place in media and in governments. This has created a divide between Those Who Know and the reste of the populace. Science should be presented as a debate, with specific rigorous rules, granted, but accessible to anyone. While what we have now is more and more vertical transmission of knowledge that might appear condescending and dogmatic. (And I know I'm part of the problem, being a researcher and a teacher in a public-funded institution.) Given those elements, laughing at flat-earthers often seems to me as a form of classism. I had the priviledge of receiving higher education, and to have the background necessary for understanding the arguments for a globe Earth: not everyone got it. It does not mean that flat-earthers should not be disproven, but that the problem is deeper that just that they're stupid or bigoted or so. Flat-Earth is a class problem: flat-earthers (as well as many pseudo-scientists) feel disempowered and excluded from the scientific debate, so they carve their own strange and incoherent niche. I believe this marxist approach of the problem should be given a bigger place in the debate. I wish you had considered this angle in your video. As always I love your work and reflections and I'm eager to watch your up-coming videos. Apologies for any weird sentence, English is not my mother tongue.

Fabien HILDWEIN

Honestly I don’t even want to comment on the video- I love what you do. I’d watch 25 minutes of you eating cheese puffs- I’m not a good critic. I just wanted to drop a note to say it’s amazing to see you back and hope 2019 is good to you because you deserve it!!!!

LadyTato

Man I'm gonna have to make some popcorn for this one.

EmperorTigerstar

Does anyone please have the link to the flat earth vegan neo nazi rap? I need to subject my brother to it

Kilo Lima Oscar

I think i'd cut the skeleton gag, maybe shorten the one where you push the globe off the desk, and maaayyyybe the first one with the phone? I think you explain its presence enough when you call the scientist (names don't stick in my head, i apologise lol). There were a couple of smaller gags i can't remember right now that i felt knocked me out of the narrative. I just think your timing is a little off.

Ok upon the second viewing, the music is fine tbh. I think it's totally appropriate ^_^ I do think some of the jokes are a bit... pointless? There are maybe a few too many. Were you trying to imply you're rusty? (Which i don't think you are btw) I think if you figure 2 or 3 to keep then that'd cut a little time down and make it a wee bit better.

You could make one of the captions for the table wobbling "wibbly wobbly table wabley". Other than that inane bit of commentary, good job! That bit about "no direct flights to/from Australia" makes me fuckin mad though. I bet that guy just swims everywhere.

It feels like you’re too down on yourself in the beginning. The jokes are funny, but the bit with the phone is an extension of your claim that you are just phoning it it in, and that’s pretty close after pointing out the fact that you haven’t made a video in a while. I don’t know what I would cut, because like I said, the jokes are funny, but you may want to streamline the beginning by cutting some of that.

I largely didn't take notice of the music, which is good in this case i suppose, since it didn't take away from your words or the visuals UNTIL that god awful rap came up and once you started the bit where you dunked on Mark Sargent and the music became intense and grating, which i got the feeling that was what you were going for

Finn Chitwood

It’s funny you mentioned the sound in the Post Video, as I was remarking to myself while watching it that it was really good all round this time. Something about it struck my ear nicely and it made for excellent accompaniment. I don’t know why, but it made me feel somewhat at home with the video. The Mark Sargent recorder bit was bloody perfect by the way. It’s somewhat funny to me that many people seem to be remarking on it negatively, or even saying they couldn’t tell where it was coming from (very odd to not know where sound’s coming from when you’re watching a YouTube video). The cameos were real treats, by the way. Up is Not Jump was sorta perfectly robotic (couldn’t tell if that was purposeful or awkward acting, but it worked brilliantly regardless), and the Olly crossover bit was absolutely beautiful, even having already seen it in his video, and especially clever was the addition of the macroscopic map view. A really great addition to the series and incredibly entertaining. Here’s hoping you make good on that promise of more videos next year, mate! Happy New Year!

I really like the shitty flute when you were dunking on the flat Earther at the end

Neon Pipe Tobacco

music is good. comfortable but not imposing :) love u too

Anathema

Someone else already pointed out the typo at 45:04 where the quote says "not" instead of "no", and assuming it's not an intentional joke and you fix it, might want to make sure you also fix it when it reappears at 45:24.

what kind of sacrifice to sobek do i need to make for that shirt?? also good video, pleased with my decision to make a patreon account at midnight and back this

This one feels a lot looser and less well-paced than your recent work, so I feel trimming cuts and script could benefit it; also the botched takes get a bit stale after a while, I feel the kicking of the globe should be the last one. The music could be louder and maybe be incorporated more into the theming and atmosphere of sections. Halcyon Dreams is probably your best demonstration of that sort of thing.

William Tongue

I loved this video! it was pretty perfect the way it is. I think over a few of the clips you could do the circus music the way you did over the videos of Davis aurini.

kendall

Firstly, really good video! Felt like almost like a diversion from your usual content and into something more fun and whacky. A few points of feedback; Granted you said it with a huge pinch of salt but I'd be very cautious from a political standpoint about seeing anything really positive about flat earthers and their conspiracist friends. I know you like ending things on an optimistic note and all but still! There are alternatives positive/optimistic ending arguments eg. say lots of people are forming more systemic analyses of capitalism itself drawing radical conclusions, there's lots to be hopeful for and that people like flat earthers are a sign that there's an incredible openness today to all kinds of ideas which also includes socialist ones etc etc. The end is a little bit clunky in that you basically reiterated the same point twice in a row ("They're right to think something is wrong" etc). I think you could cut like a minute out there and you'd get the same point across. Those two minor points aside, really enjoyed it! Looking forward to your videos into 2019, enjoy your New Year EDIT: Forgot to add that I didn't see anything really wrong with the music. It blended into the video completely.

Cyridius

1st watch thru feedback ^_^ Music seems fine to me. I didn't notice it for the most part unless you drew my attention to it (that awful rap will haunt my dreams) which is how i feel like backing music should be? Will listen for that more on my second watch. Re the gags, i found them hilarious on the whole. I feel like the skeleton one was maybe a bit too much, just because the others were at least relevant to the topic of the video? So if you were to take any out i'd recommended that one. Probably the only major crit i have is that i feel like you've slightly buried your lede, but this is a great video regardless so I'm using "major" rather loosely, lol. I reckon you could have made the latter half of the video entirely about your concluding point, that people who believe flat earth, or alt med, or insert-thing-here, have all figured out there's something up with the way the world is going atm and have just clung to the entirely wrong solution. The rest of the video was great, as i said, but this was when i really properly sat up and paid attention. It's been a while since i've watched Olly's video on the subject so he may have covered this in more depth. If not, though, i'd honestly love a continuation of this video where you maybe delve into conspiracy theories through that kind of late stage capitalism framework, because i'd actually never considered it before. It makes it much easier for me to understand their (and certain family members') behaviour. Will report back once i've watched it again. ^_^

Might be worth bringing in religion. Flat Earth puts the planet at the centre of the universe; fitting with creationism and it's 'interesting' take on the role of science and evidence.

So far the biggest complaint was that the U2 tangent didn’t have a Negativland reference. What I’m saying is that you need to lay Negativland’s version of I still haven’t found what I’m looking for with kazoos and an angry Casey Kasem (RIP) over the rant.

Vessue

music good

More bluegrass music. I just want some banjos!

this fish flies

this is honestly one of my favorite videos of yours now. i quite liked the music, though i will say the only bits that really made me take notice of them were the track playing over your conclusion starting at about 47:10 (which i would love to know the name of so i can look it up, dont know if thatll be in the description when its put up), and the ridiculous kazoo track playing over you making fun of mark sargent. otherwise, the music didnt really stand out to me, though i think thats good because it helps me to focus better on what youre trying to explain. thank you for the video!! im looking forward to next year ^^ edit: silly of me, forgot to mention why the track at 47:10 stood out to me: i think it fits the tone of that section VERY well, and gives off a very soft and hopeful vibe, so if nothing else, definitely keep that one because i think it accents what youre going for perfectly.

AsterianMonarch

&lt;3 the Jen cameo

Gephyron

I really liked the video, but I feel you should include more examples of non stop flights, if there are any, like if you had more examples that would be more convincing. Even if it's just flashing up some examples of other flights like that. I know there were a couple, but I feel like including more that they didn't talk about is a way to show you aren't just directly responding to their individual examples, but that you are responding to their entire claim. I might be wrong, it's just a gut feeling.

Useless Himbo

I'm not an editor, so I'm not nearly as sharp with spotting problems, but the audio was fine for me. Nothing glaring. 👍

Becky Pennock

I can't say anything abt the music but the subtitles at ~16:43 felt placed a bit off, got my eyes all mixed up multi-tasking the reading and the listening bit distracting. I think it was because they faded instead of appeared, minor and very pedantic complaint

Thank you, yes, I wasn't sure where that sound was coming from and it was very annoying to me

Violet Moon

I'd recomend cutting some of the jokes where you go into exhausted pauses. speeds the pase up.

Google Hushabye Vally

I can't help you about the music... I can just say that it didn't feel right sometimes. :(

Michael Tardibuono

Favorite bits have gotta be THAT'S NOT HOW KNOWLEDGE WORKS and the bit about the shitty spy plane my tax dollars have helped pay for. Also idk when exactly you compile the list of names for the credits but I literally just changed my account name to a real name so whatever it says on this comment is what it should be

Hannah

I liked the music.

Dave

Solid work, it just got stronger and stronger as you went on I feel.

Dave

The first 3rd needs a solid cut down. I found it pretty slow. I know that's where most of the jokey-jokes are, but it'd honestly run smoother with a few minutes chopped out. Otherwise, enjoyed it. Love, an Australian (who according to flat earth theory, does not exist). P.S: My partner is a climatologist, and she was outraged by the Flat Earther claims you featured... Bye!

i honestly didnt notice any music orz

I disagree with everyone: Knock more things over, the first have is too tight, but so is the second half, and one time you said fighter plane when you meant spy plane i think all the music was good, the only time i ever noticed it was when you tossed on kazoo dragonforce, which i think means that it never detracted from your point? and the kazoo dragonforce was there as a gag, so it's fine

IIRC from his last stream, that recorder music is a multi-part cover ofThrough the Fire and the Flames lol

Also the segment at about 11 minutes in “i don’t have any place to lecture anyone about decorum” feels like a place that could be trimmed.

I also agree that the first half felt a bit flabby and a bout of a slog, but the second half felt much better paced. Although i love the whole photoshop/deepfake gag, it felt a little long and out of place. If you leave it in I would remove the “i am not even done making my notes for the video and decided to make a test” you should just go from “let me get my mouse,” to doing le deep fake.

It was really great, but DEFINITELY add an AUDIBLE trigger warning before the transphobic slurs. I was on a different tab at the time, so I missed the warning. It wasn't triggering to me specifically, but it might be pretty bad for others.

i'm a super fan of the vid but i think the music in most of the vid is way too low and it feels like a scripted ramble. idk i feel like i was spoiled with how good Eric's music was in SLA 3 and how well it fit, and i don't get the same vibe and it feels kinda empty.

Eithi

Oh god, they were recorders, not flutes. Im so sorry it’s 5AM please put me in Internet prison

Jake Williams

The music is fine, just stop letting props fall

(oh and whatever you do please please please keep Kissing Ancaps for the credits cause wow that song is Good)

Jake Williams

Excellent video! I’m currently experiencing some minor hearing problems so take what I say on the music with a pinch of salt, but I liked it a lot in terms of style! It suited your aesthetic really well. However, the flutes when you’re Dunking On Mark™️ were very quiet to me compared to the rest of the audio, you could maybe consider turning those up a bit? But other than that it was super great!

Jake Williams

I'm actually in that Facebook group you mention in the first few minutes - I created an account to join a whole bunch of conspiracy groups to see their memes and such. I've got a bunch saved, lemme know if you'd like some!

Excellent video but holy fuck I cannot handle the second-hand embarrassment of that dude filming himself being a jackass in public

LANCE MANLY, SORCERER OF SIN

Seconded, I really love seeing the shitty takes and messed up jokes, but I do think they might have been a little overdone in this one. I think it’s worth trimming the fat on those.

The music sounds pretty good to me. It didn’t really make an impact on me, which is to say I didn’t really *notice* it until the part where you were owning Mark Sargent. During that segment the music was a little too loud and stress inducing... but that almost feels like a feature not a bug

So my overall impression is that this video isn't as tight as your best stuff. I feel like you're letting individual bits drag on too long and it's affecting the pacing. Especially given how bad the pacing is in flat earth videos, I feel like cutting down your own portions of this video to the best bits will help to increase the contrast. And I want to clarify, I feel like for the most part pacing is something you're particularly strong at, so it's not so much that the pacing in this video is *bad* as that it's not up to your usual standard. If you're looking for things to cut, you might consider limiting yourself to just one "I broke my prop"/"this joke didn't work out/"I did a bad take" joke. I think there were like three of them in this one? And it got a bit tired. OK now to go back and pay attention to the music.

Button

The music at the end was perfect. Don't change that

Rebecca Dominguez

Great video HBom! I think my favourite part was the loud recorder music that played when you railed on Mark Sargent. Overall a really good video, 10/10 would be a globehead again

If you get the chance to see them, Carpenter Brut put on a great live show

Zoey P.

Solid work sir. This is a good addition to my christmas presents of super mario party and a new cello. Also when I saw the title I just laughed and said, “hell yes”. The music was pretty good on first viewing, maybe adjust some of the mix here and there. Overall a good video, the only other thing I’d want is more. Which is a good thing to want.

yaaaaassss new video :D I'm so stoked!!

Comments on things I liked: 1) that you pointed out the mistreatment of women within the movement pretty respectfully and in a way that I hope some people might be able to hear, and 2) that you validated that something is very wrong while encouraging further investigation of said thing. My favorite part of the video was when Sobek was like "for the luls my dude." Feels good, feels organic, thank you.

A_Blinkin'

About 1/4 through. Loved the desktop wallpaper during this JPG bit :) I would blur the home address at 12:30. Yes it's in his own video description, but still probably shouldn't dox him :/

so great to see a new video! re: sound balance - speaking as someone who tried to watch this without waking my husband up...the part where you dunked on Mark Sargent woke may have been too loud

minohoonoo

Yeah he also plays bass very badly.

Holy shit, Jake the Asshole lives in my town! That's our mall and our Buffalo Wild Wings! He's absolutely an asshole and everyone hates him. Ask literally anybody from Modesto, California, what their thoughts are about "Solo Bass Jake."

around 26:00 it might be worth pointing out that the shortest distance between two points on a sphere is a "great circle", which is how flights are routed. and coincidentally while this "great circle" appears as a curve on most map projects, it appears as a straight line on an azimuthal projection. so sydney to santiago via san fransisco or los angeles is only a *slight* deviation from the most direct route.

donoteat

Very slight typo at 45:04. Quote says “not” instead of “no”. Also I was more aware of the music throughout the video beforehand you mentioned it, whether that’s a good or bad thing is up to you.

Concerning the music, there was a kazoo track towards the end while you were dunking on Mark Sargent that was driving me nuts

Bingo Bongo

Another great video! On the music front, non of the background music stood out for better or worse on my watch. Oh and nice recorder bit 👌👌

Junior Chrysler

I think everything was perfect, in my opinion. The soundtrack compliments the way you go from frustrated but civil to unhinged and furious.

Two comments: 1) you seem really frustrated the entire video, and I don't know if you were going for that, but I definitely noticed it, and 2) GOD that guy with the shirt is SO HARD to watch. I nearly skipped through the video about halfway through that part because I was so uncomfortable from the secondhand anxiety you mentioned, so I would recommend cutting it down significantly.

A_Blinkin'

... exposing yourself to this nonsense to the degree you do cannot be healthy for you, but the product is wonderful. I guess what I’m saying is, your sacrifice is appreciated.

AutumnRi

I had very similar feelings about the music on the phone bit. Very similar, very strong sad feelings.

And put that Bloodborne soundtrack to more use, owning neo Nazis is always better put to the Blood-Starved Beast battle theme. Thanks for the quality content as always :D

Chaotic Deluge

Overall this video is another excellent gem; in regards to music, I laughed a LOT at the Dragonforce recorder bit, like to an almost unbearable degree. I do wonder if there's a tonal dissonance (uh, excuse the pun) between the music AND that segment. Perhaps being in a place of legitimate amusement whilst you're figuratively tearing that guy a new asshole is not terrible (being it was mean, but I think appropriately so). Besides that, the general musical ventures of this video, and really your most recent ones, are nice. It's experimental and not same-ey. Nothing has particularly piqued my ear one way or the other outside of critical listening, so I think things have been fitting nicely enough. Thanks for the quality content &lt;3

notes: as far as the music, it was neither jarring nor left much of an impression (other than the neonazi flat earth rap which i fear the knowledge of will haunt me for years). overall i enjoyed this a lot, despite finding the list of music you have on your phone a little horrifying.

Yeah, so feedback-wise, could you rectify the part where you assert that the earth is not flat, tia

Stumpy Frog Records

Sooo thoughts. You pointing out the wobbly table was genius, I couldnt look away. Having an actual 'measured' response for once is nice because flat earthers aren't really the type to make folks angry, they're an easy target. That's neat. And as for the music i did notice it, but I've been noticing it for a few videos now. I'd say keep it up and keep experimenting

Chaotic Deluge

I was just re-watching a bunch of your videos in the background to occupy my ADHD while drawing so i am ecstatic for a new one.

You should probably blur out the names at 33:14 before you post the wide release version so people don't hassle these people.

Since I'm currently dying of a cold and can't sleep, this is a nice surprise. BUT OMG HBOMB. The pharaohs were the physical embodiment of the god Horus. Clearly no research at all was done. 0/10 wouldn't recommend. Seriously though, I loved this

Naomi Skilling

Nice to see I'm not the only one with a broken sleep rhythm :D I live in Germany tho, so it's actually worse 🙈😂 Edit: Now that I've watched it not too tired to articulate thoughts afterward: I generally really like the music, I find it difficult to explain why, but it got a right and nice feel about it. Just in the Conclusion Bit where you start to rant the music actually was a bit hurtful for my ears, it supports the ehm content in the bit well, but I think the high notes are a little bit too high and somehow distorted (is that the right word?) so it makes it not nice to hear.

TheGreatMuffin

Had to upload it five minutes before my mum makes me go with her to the shops to explain what laptops are

welcome to an hour of being awake more

Hbomb

It's my birthday, thank you for this gift.

Literally I was checking my phone notifs ONE last time before I went to bed. Guess I'm not going to bed just yet.

The Doom Merchant

you were going through some stuff right now in my video in June! god can't wait to see this

Peter Coffin

I AM SO READY FOR THIS.

Yaaaay. Staying up till 3am and I get to see it early :D &lt;3 HBomb