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OA85: More with Andrew Seidel on Trinity Lutheran & the First Amendment

For today's show, we dive deeper into the Supreme Court's recent decision in Trinity Lutheran v. Comer with guest lawyer Andrew Seidel from the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

First, however, we answer a question from Patron Christopher Arguin regarding cross-examination that was inspired by TTTBE #30.

In the main segment, Andrew and Andrew continue to discuss church-state separation and the First Amendment.

Next, our friend Seth Barrett Tillman provides us with an update on the CREW v. Trump lawsuit regarding emoluments.

Finally, we end with the answer to Thomas Take the Bar Exam Question #31 regarding the Statute of Frauds.  Listen and find out if Thomas's improbable one-question winning streak will continue -- and don't forget to play along by following our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and/or our Facebook Page and quoting the Tweet or Facebook Post that announces this episode along with your guess and reason(s)!

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Show Notes & Links

  1. We first spoke with Andrew Seidel regarding Trinity Lutheran during Episode 82.
  2. Here is a link to the Trinity Lutheran v. Comer decision.
  3. We first discussed Trinity Lutheran during our three-part "You Be The Supreme Court" series; part 1 (Episode 14) is available here, part 2 is available here, and part 3 is available here.
  4. This is the letter that the Missouri Attorney General sent indicating that, post-election, Missouri would change its policy.
  5. Finally, please check out Andrew Seidel's great work at the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

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OA85:  More with Andrew Seidel on Trinity Lutheran & the First Amendment

Comments

Thanks for doing my question... and "Arguin" is pronounced more like "Penguin". :)

Christopher Arguin

I really enjoyed your conversation. I'm a relatively new listener, so you may do this occasionally, but the other day I was listening to another podcast (gasp!) and the host, who is a liberal healthcare policy wonk who hates the proposed healthcare bill, had on a handpicked rational conservative expert who supports it and they got really in depth in a conversation/debate about the bill. I think it would be potentially very interesting if on episodes like this, you also brought in a smart, reasonable lawyer who concurs in the judgment of the Trinity Lutheran (or whatever) decision to express that side of the argument. I think it would be enlightening to have Andrew and someone who disagrees with Andrew have a long, respectful legal debate on issues like this, as I just don't think there's enough of that kind of "smart" debate or discussion out there. Most of what passes for political debate is people shouting talking points at each other. As an example, in today's conversation, I am a guy who already agrees with both Andrews on the issues that were discussed, and I learned about some cases and some ways to phrase and think about things that I haven't before, but if there had been someone making bonafide arguments FOR Trinity Lutheran, that would probably better prepare us for the kind of armchair legal debates you run into and give an idea of where the holes in the arguments of both sides are.


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