Once Upon A Time 1x12 “Skin Deep” FULL REACTION
Added 2020-04-03 22:17:00 +0000 UTC
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I so agree with you ! ^^
Viyctoriya
2021-07-19 21:41:21 +0000 UTCI agree with everything you said! Yes I thought the “romance” was forced between these two actors/characters and toxic and disturbing that she would fall in love with someone who basically kidnapped her. I like both these actors separately, but together it didn’t work for me. Thank you for your thoughts and please comment more!😄🙌🏽
Other Boy Reactions
2020-04-06 15:45:24 +0000 UTCI love these characters, but it's refreshing to see/hear you react to this particular episode – mainly, the flashbacks. A lot of people love them as a couple and see all this chemistry but... I just don't. I was worried I was the only one. The whole situation seems idk toxic? Your reaction was a lot like mine :) Sure, he's the Dark One and believes no one can love him, so I get it but... This isn't a love story to me. I can't root for them as a couple when Belle's treated that way. I also didn't see that “spark” between them either. True love is supposed to be a love so powerful and genuine that it's magical – and with them, I don't see it. It's an unpopular opinion/perspective, but it's how I see it. That never changed, and if it doesn't change for you either then that's just how it is. I hope no one tells you that you have like something if you don't. Cursed David drives me mad too haha. Everyone's cursed selves are their supposed worst selves, but I swear the curse hit him especially hard because like... dude can't even label his cards if he's giving them to more than one woman? Everything else in the episode I loved though, especially the smile Emma and Henry had when getting to spend time together. Your reaction to that was great. That's part of the fun with though – everyone has their own view and feelings on things. Sometimes they're the same as others, sometimes not. Your reactions and thoughts on this show have been interesting in the best way, so I'm looking forward to seeing your journey through ouat continue. I know I don't comment often, and sorry this one is so huge, but I had more thoughts than usual and wanted to share them. I love your videos and am so glad to have found them, especially with how stressful real life is these days. Keep it up :)
Lena
2020-04-06 15:31:24 +0000 UTCI completely understand that. :)
Heidi Elizabeth Marcum
2020-04-04 04:49:26 +0000 UTCI’m glad you enjoyed😄 Yeah I’m gonna need to see more flashbacks of them because their “love” wasn’t working for me yet😭😁
Other Boy Reactions
2020-04-04 04:45:54 +0000 UTCInteresting that you thought there was chemistry between them. I felt like they both were trying very hard to seem like they cared for each other but it never quite landed for me in the short amount of time that they had. Still an interesting and enjoyable episode though😄
Other Boy Reactions
2020-04-04 04:34:26 +0000 UTCAlso... more time passed with them being together than was seen at this point. There will be more seen between these two within this past timeline, and hopefully then you will be able to see their chemistry because they really are beautiful together, in spite of their love story also being one of the most frustrating love stories at times too.
Heidi Elizabeth Marcum
2020-04-04 04:33:58 +0000 UTCBeauty is "skin deep". A perfect phrase and title for a beautiful twist of the Beauty and the Beast fairytale here on Once Upon a Time. And what a beautiful episode overall as a whole it was. I really love that we are introduced to Belle in this episode and that the creators chose to make the Dark One a different version of the Beast. It's brilliant and this episode is so well written and so well acted between both Robert Carlyle (like always) and Emilie De Ravin. Beauty and the Beast is one of my all time favorite Disney movies. And I feel that Once Upon a Time created a beautiful and an amazing twist on its fairytale. I love it! This episode isn't one of my overall favorites throughout the season, but it's really close to being one, and I really do love it! Also... I have seen Robert Carlyle in several other movies and for the most part, whether I have liked the movies or not, he's always brilliant just as he is as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold. And as for Emilie De Ravin... I never watched the show Lost and not much of Roswell either, which are the shows she has been known for up until Once Upon a Time came out, because I really have no interest in either show, but I have seen her in a few other movies too, and another old short lived TV series titled, Beastmaster. And I really liked her in most of what I have seen with her as well. Oh... and I love that she keeps her Australian accent for her role as Belle. And Robert Carlyle is very Scottish. If you do watch him in other movies, you will see that he tames his accent quite a bit for his role in Once Upon a Time. Normally, his accent is so thick and heavy that he's sometimes hard to understand what he's saying. It's beautiful and I love the Scottish/Irish accents, as I love Belle's Australian accent and all others too. You should look up a few interviews with Robert Carlyle to see what I mean. Ones that won't give away anything about what's to come on the show, but early interviews and you'll see what I mean. But back to my thoughts about the episode... I really enjoy how Belle comes to live with Rumple at his castle, in a deal he makes to save Belle's family and people from the ogres invading their kingdom. "No one determines my fate but me." A very powerful and beautiful quote from Belle and I love how brave she is to take on the burden of becoming the Dark One's servant. And yet... we learn throughout the episode that she didn't do it simply to save her family and people, but because she also hoped that doing so would bring about an adventure for a hero... someone she longs to be since there aren't many ways in that day or age, or in her kingdom for women to do so. Now... remaining Rumple's prisoner doesn't give her much of an opportunity for Belle to go out to see the world like she hoped, but she does discover that Rumplestiltskin isn't as much of a "beast" or monster like everyone fears. And for the first time in his life, someone sees beyond his skin and darkness, and she sees the good still inside of him, which allows for her to fall in love with him. And her love helps to bring out a little more of the goodness in him she sees. Throughout this episode, we see Belle and Rumple become friendly with one another. So much so, that Rumple even tells her a little of Baelfire and how he had lost his son and wife, to what still remains a mystery. And for him to even speak of his son to anyone... it shows just how much he really had come to care for Belle too. And I absolutely love, love, love the moment between them with the chipped cup and how this cup comes to be a precious keepsake for them both. That it becomes a special symbol of their love. So beautiful. And then... Rumple tests Belle to see if she would return from a trip into town for straw, and she meets the Evil Queen on her way. And unfortunately, or maybe not so unfortunately... she gets into Belle's head and uses Belle as a source to try to make Rumplestiltskin not so much of a threat to her so that she can become even more powerful than him, which we learn later on. It's brilliant, but I'll come back to that later. Regina tells Belle that True Love's Kiss is powerful enough to break any curse, including the "Dark One curse." To be honest... as beautiful of a scene as this moment is when they do share True Love's Kiss and Rumple's skin begins to transform back into his old self, I find it a little annoying too because I've always seen the "Dark One curse" as more than any other curse and it is. The previous Dark One, Zoso back in the episode, Desperate Souls, tells Rumple that the darkness can only be destroyed in a person through death upon being stabbed by someone else with the Dark One dagger, which in turn transforms the killer into the next Dark One. So this moment with his and Belle's shared kiss kind of bends that law of the Dark One in a way that doesn't really work. However, I can understand what the writers and show's creators were trying to do and that's that they were trying to establish that Belle and Rumplestiltskin are this show's next True Love couple behind Snow White and Prince Charming. And I can appreciate that. So many fans of this show absolutely love Belle and Rumple together, and so do I. For me... I believe that had Rumple given into love and let go of his lust for power in that moment instead of fighting against it, that Belle would have brought out the man buried within the beast that much sooner, even though the darkness would have still been buried within him as well, making it a constant struggle for him day by day to suppress the darkness. Sadly, the beautiful moment between them is shattered when Rumple realizes Belle had been talking to the Evil Queen and he suddenly goes into a dark rage. I almost feared he was about to really hurt her, if not even kill her too. But then once he locks her back in her dungeon, he goes back into the grand hall of his castle and begins to smash everything in sight, until he once again holds the chipped teacup in his hands, which gets him to finally stop. As for the moment Rumple is yelling at the mirror in talking to the Evil Queen... earlier in the episode Belle believes that Rumple covered up all of his mirrors so that he wouldn't have to look at himself in them, believing he's just ashamed of his appearance. And while that is true too, I believe he also has done so, so that Regina can't use her Magic Mirror to spy on him through his own mirrors. Which Regina and Sidney can do, as we've seen them do in past episodes. Later in the episode, after Rumple had locked Belle back in the tower within a fit of rage until he eventually sets Belle free from her servitude... the Evil Queen comes to his castle and taunts him about Belle's tragedy. Now... we don't know yet how much of Regina's story is true, or if all of it is a lie she uses to taunt him, but Rumple absolutely believes it and is devastated upon learning Belle is dead and that she had been ruined thanks to her father's cruelty. Which at last brings us to the present day storyline in Storybrooke with Gold and Moe French... I love that his and Belle's last name from the curse is French, a nod once again to the Beauty and the Beast tale, because in the tale they live in a French provincial town. I like that Moe, who's true name is really Maurice, in his cursed state breaks into Gold's home to steal the chipped cup thanks to Regina's meddling, and that Gold seeks Moe out to make him pay for what's happened to Belle, even if Moe himself doesn't understand why. We don't know in fact what Moe believes he might have done to his daughter. But then Gold goes hostile and starts to beat him with his cane in a dark rage and probably would have killed Moe had Emma not suddenly shown up to stop him. I also love how this moment flashes back and forth between Gold beating Moe, to Rumplestiltskin smashing everything in sight within his castle until he picks up the chipped cup and finds the will to stop before he breaks it. Then... Emma arrests Gold for his assault against Moe and this is when one of the best scenes within this episode occurs between Gold and Regina. Their confrontation inside the jail is phenomenal and is my overall favorite moment within this episode, purely because both Gold and Regina are such sensational characters. I love that Regina finally gets Gold to admit he's awake by simply stating his true name. And this moment gives you a slight punch in the gut because it's just so perfectly acted and whoa... Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! Lana Parrilla as Regina/the Evil Queen is phenomenal as well, especially when she's acting opposite of Robert Carlyle. I haven't really seen her in too much else, but in what I have seen her in, her roles aren't so nearly dominant like she is as Regina/the Evil Queen. In regards to why Regina confronts Gold about whether or not he's awake now... She simply wanted him to admit to her that he's awke and fully aware of their true selves. She was merely taunting him. Regina has been testing him subtlety throughout the season so far, ever since their conversation at the very of the second episode, The Thing You Love Most, when Gold first uses the word please to get her to do what he wants her to do for him. She didn't know for awhile that he was aware of who he really is at first, but overtime she's come to realize it, and she wanted him to admit it too. I absolutely love this confrontation between them. Next... I really love the small storyline with Ashley and Sean, and the whole girls night out scene. And I absolutely love that Sean comes to see Ashley on his break for Valentines Day and proposes to her. It's brief and simple, but so sweet. And this brings me to the cringe moment and the worst moment for me... with David and Mary Margaret when David gives Mary Margaret the wrong Valentines Day card. I don't like this scene at all, because they're not the Charming and Snow White we know and that I love. I don't like this moment even though I understand why they're drawn to one another, because they truly love each other. The scenes with them and their kiss shared in the episode 715 AM I still like despite it being wrong, and I even enjoy their flirting inside Granny's Diner at the beginning of this episode, but you're absolutely right about how this scene with the mixed up cards makes David appear stupid, or incompetent. That's why I brought up my thoughts about how the curse works over everyone, as well as Josh Dallas's (David) comments from his interview I spoke of in my own comments for the last episode... Fruit of the Poisonous Tree. I wanted to try to explain why David appears to be so off in everything he says and does in regards to his love for Mary Margaret, and his feelings towards not telling Kathryn the truth and why he doesn't leave her like he should. I agree with you that while I do absolutely ship Snow and Charming, they just keep making wrong decisions that continue to go from bad to worse. I do not and will never condone people having affairs. And lastly... one final big reveal and that's when Regina walks down into the mental ward of the hospital to check on a patient... and we learn that Belle is alive after all and that no one knows so, including Gold. Not a word was spoken and there was no need for there to be. A brilliant scene and moment within the episode. Thank you again so much for another fun reaction! I always truly love watching your reactions for every episode of my favorite show. You're always just so enjoyable to watch. So thank you! Until your next Once Upon a Time reaction... :)
Heidi Elizabeth Marcum
2020-04-04 04:27:29 +0000 UTCTo clarify your question about the kiss, we saw in the pilot that Regina was telling the truth when she said "True Love's Kiss can break any curse." It worked when Charming broke the sleeping curse by kissing Snow and it was beginning to work when Belle kissed Rumple, as we saw his skin changing back to his human appearance. But for True Love's Kiss to work, both parties have to know they love each other and want the curse broken. That's why David and Mary Margaret's kiss back in the "7:15 AM" episode didn't break the curse; they don't remember who they really are and Mary Margaret clearly has reservations about David's behavior that Snow didn't have about Charming's. When Rumple realized his curse was breaking, he stopped it because he didn't want to lose his power. He did love Belle, as we could see from his reaction to losing her chipped cup in Storybrooke, but he wanted his power more than he wanted her. By the way, the writers confirmed that in the scene near the end where Rumple removed a silver chalice from a pedestal in his castle to put the chipped cup in it's place, the chalice was supposed to represent the Holy Grail. So that's an indicator of how highly Rumple values his one memento of Belle.
Paul Fisher
2020-04-04 04:23:47 +0000 UTCI enjoyed your reaction and found it interesting that yours was quite different than mine. This is one of my favorite episodes because I found the chemistry between Rumple and Belle overpowering. I'm not usually too affected by romantic stories but these two seemed to me as potent on screen as any I've ever seen - comparable to Bogart & Bacall. It's always fun to see how others view these shows.
Paul Fisher
2020-04-04 04:06:27 +0000 UTC
