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Boss Fight!

Dear Insane Children, 

I've got an idea for a new boss in Alice: Asylum... "Million Poster Tubes" - he might be a distant cousin to Rick & Morty's "Million Ants" but that doesn't make him any less formidable. That's the thing about growing an awesome Patreon community and running a super successful campaign around the Chaos Coin... Physical things must then be signed, packed, and delivered to Insane Children all over the world.

After several solid days of signing, rolling, packing, labeling, and shipping, I can finally say I've defeated Million Poster Tubes... for now. Many thanks to my trusty sidekick Font Lord and our latest addition to the team, Matt. (Matt needs a better nickname). 

And, thank YOU, for waiting patiently while I was focused on The Tube Wars. 

Speaking of bosses (or the lack thereof) this was one of the most highlighted bits of feedback about Alice: Madness Returns... "Where are the damn bosses?" The game is so deliberately anti-boss that it even features a bit of a head-fake at the start. Just when you think an epic battle is about to commence between Alice and the evil duo of March Hare and Dormouse... nope

So we've heard lots of requests for "moar bosses!" in Asylum - and those requests will be heeded. We'll even feature that same furry duo, March Hare and Dormouse, which are the subject of today's main image. 

Joey's come up with an art treatment and boss design I suspect we'll all enjoy a few cups of. What do you think?

Who are some of the other major Wonderland Characters you'd like to see Alice fighting in Asylum? Comments below - and be sure to use QUESTION and COMMENT tags if you'd like Martin to read your stuff during the next livestream. 

Joey also sends along another image inspired by a multitude of requests and questions from fans: Alice parkour across the rooftops of London. 

This was another area where many people felt we could have delivered a bit more action in Madness Returns. The main constraint being, as usual, time and money... we simply didn't have the resources for rigging, animating, and coding all the stuff necessary for a "normal" Alice who was playable in this fashion in the real world. Depending on resources we'll try to remedy that in the new game.

The last bit of new art from Joey is a triptych of enemies - all members of the family "Creepy Doll Part Nightmares." We discussed this image and lots of other art in detail during the last livestream. In case you missed that, you can still watch it HERE

During that livestream we FINISHED the very slow, very death-filled play-through of "American McGee's Alice" and we're now in need of a new game to play! With that in mind PLEASE COMMENT BELOW with ideas for what game we should start playing  next. 

I've heard requests for DOOM and Quake. I'd personally like to give "Bad Day LA" a spin. Franbow has come up multiple times - but people have also mentioned it's very heavy on text and reading... which might not be the greatest thing to mix with us also trying to respond to your comments, suggestions, and Super Chats. So... give us your (other) suggestions in the comments below!

Chaos Coin Update

Martin is working to compile all your info for shipping out the Chaos Coins. That process will continue until September 17th. Martin will do a final data extraction on September 16th around Midnight and use that info to build the final shipping list. We will then send out the survey (via email) which you'll use to provide us your Name and Message for embedding on the virtual coin. 

If you're still having trouble getting your Patreon payment to go through then please contact Patreon and/or your financial institution and work with them to clear that up. On our side we're powerless to help with failed transactions. But fear not - so long as you get the issue cleared up this month, then you will receive your coin!

Please, do not write asking us to confirm that your pledge is OK or if you're receiving a coin. Even though Stickboy and Font Lord are super heroes (of sorts) we'd still struggle with dozens of such requests. Wait until the 17th. We'll post an update at that time and the survey links will be emailed. If, after that point, things aren't clear or you feel uncertain, you can email us and we'd be happy to help :) 

Those of you waiting for the 17th in order to adjust your pledge (and thank you for waiting as requested) I do want to quickly spam you with a reminder that two more months at that pledge level would unlock an autographed art print, which you can select from the Mysterious Shop and have mailed anywhere in the world (free shipping)... 

3 x $35 = one art print, so keep that in mind. Full list of available art for you to select from is available via THIS LINK to Mysterious. And two more images will be added before you hit your x3. If you do decide to stick around at that level, you might consider adjusting your Tier so that Font Lord doesn't have to work as hard to sort you into the correct category later on ;) Mmm... spam. 

Livestream Time

We've set the next livestream for Thursday, September 13th, at 9AM Hong Kong Time. Hit THIS LINK to set a reminder. YouTube sucks, set your own reminder, etc. And use International Meeting Planner if you are confused about time zones and whatnot.

Last but not least... the White Rabbit Doll design. We're pushing this towards production so provide your feedback in the comments below. He's going to be our new best friend, so let's make sure we get him right! 

From Shanghai with Tube-itis,

-American

Boss Fight!

Comments

Don’t think we can take their loyalty for granted. Remember, in AMA they’d been pretty much drugged out of their minds by the Hatter when Alice found them in the workshop (they’d been given “medicine that made them tired”, and as Alice later said to the Gryphon, they were “totally unaware of their situation”) so what they’d be like in their “normal” state is open to question! In the original book (and the Disney cartoon) Alice is under threat from everyone in Wonderland at the end, when the entire pack of cards rises in the air and comes down on her head, so I don’t think that any character can be counted on as always on her side!

. good damn question

QUESTION: (I am behind on the live streams so this might be a stupid question - sorry!) Why are the Dormouse and the March Hare enemies in Asylum? In AMA Alice was trying to rescue them from the Hatter, right? So Asylum being before the events of AMA wouldn't it follow that the Dormouse and the March Hare would be allies (and also not wounded or clockwork-y) for this game?

I love the idea of the Creepy Doll nightmares! They are so wicked looking!! SUGGESTION: possibly a boss battle when she's in denial, but has to fight the ghosts of her family? (similar to the underwater sailors in A:MR) Throughout the game they get a little more menacing as the guilt really sinks in.

Crank the the creep factor ALL THE WAY! a la Alice, right?

Those enemies are just creepy as hell, I am super down with that. Love dolls and terrified of bugs so what a perfect combo. Can't wait for the 3rd week at 35 to pick a print :).

BTW I would love to see you play Quake!

Liking pretty much everything... ESPECIALLY those enemies designs, my goodness, they look amazing!

The legs of the dollspider should come out of its (main) head. Not the abdomen: more accurate and therefore more creepy.

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Yeah, Fran Bow maybe isn’t very entertaining as a streaming game even tho I love it. So excited to see Little Nightmares!

The game definitely needs more bosses. Interesting ones, perhaps to have clever ways of defeating them too, like the ruin battle where you had to use the umbrella to deflect. If certain boss fights are like this, introducing interesting mechanics for defeating them it'll be super cool. The rooftop idea is amazing too. I remember watching many walkthroughs and livestreams of Madness Returns and ppl always thought that the rooftops looked very pretty. The amount of detail there was quite impressive, with the pigeons and everything. So I guess if Alice shifts from London to Wonderland again, then perhaps to make London more dynamic than before is the best decision.

I love these pieces of art from Joey they are so awesome!! I can't wait to see them finished!I cant hold the bunny in my hands so cuuttte💗 SUGGESTIONS: I would like to see the lion and the unicorn as bosses but...I want to see them twisted together as a malformed beast! It would be amazing! Also you should play silent hill 2 its a good game to have on the background while you speak💗💗

I've always been curious about A:MR when they built the mech and Hatter swings in and destroys it, was that supposed to be a boss fight but you guys ran out of time or was that intentional?

Love to hear the return of bosses, I really missed them in AMR SUGGESTION: for when Alice is jumping over the roof tops, maybe during one of the "real world" scenes she could find a way to sneak out of the asylum but she gets caught which causes her to have an episode and sends her back to wonderland As for the doll creatures... I'm terrified and I love it Can't wait for my coin to come! As for game recommendations I'd say INSIDE by playdead That's all from me See you at stream ^_^

QUESTION: I like the idea of the March Hare and Dormouse fight, but I thought that they looked the way they did in Madness Returns because they had to find pieces around the Hatter's Realm to make themselves complete(ish) after the first game; so why would they look like that in the prequel?

The rabbit doll is cute but a little simple, maybe add a pocket watch? Even as just a design on his jacket, or a tiny top hat!

nopedia

Love the rooftop idea for Alice, really gives a nice and different perspective to it. So chuffed to hear about more bosses for Asylum. I think the White Rabbit doll design is absolutely perfect! ^-^

Cannot wait for the art work to head my way. So, Alice, love her. I am sad the plush isnt cheshire but I will live with it. New game to play...I always like Silent Hill 3 for a good time. As for bosses, would love to see caterpillar, super freaky anyway. I could say the duchess she could be worked with. Or the mock turtle which could tie in with Victorian England at the time and the popular dish.

SUGGESTION: I think level-based platformers like the first two Alice games would be a good choice to stream. Inside and Little Nightmares are good choices since they are generally relaxing and textless. I'd also suggest A Hat in Time which is a little different atmospherically, but is relaxing and fun to watch nonetheless. And the teapot chariot looks really fun!

Greetings to Matt. His nickname will come later but I already call your trio the Mattmarticans XD

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Love the rooftop idea and more bosses! I’ve been racking my brain trying to think of a boss idea but unfortunately I don’t have any ideas :/ now GAME SUGGESTION: My personal favorites are Inside and Little Nightmares. I’ve played Inside multiple times I just love the style and the unsettling feeling it gives me. And Little Nightmares just seems so fitting for the streams :)

ahh Yes, I remember the giant machine that march hare and dormouse were in. I really was tricked to think it was going to be a boss fight. Then when it didn't happen I was just a little disappointed, but I found it funny too. You guys got me good.

I heard Cuphead is insanely difficult. Could take a full year to see the end of it ;)

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Plus Martin is a big fan.

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I love that this boss reminds me of a Mad Max gang in Wonderland! Joey's mind must be an incredible place! The little White Rabbit Doll its looking good, but i think it would be nice if he was even more broken, with staples or a deliberately hole or rip.

Love the new art, especially the creepy doll monsters! I hope to see lots of new, horribly disturbing monsters like these in Asylum. ;) And as a SUGGESTION, I'd love to see you play Little Nightmares. It's on the shorter side for gameplay time, but it's creepy and has an interesting story. :) I wouldn't mind seeing Fran Bow either, though.

Omg, love the boss design from Joey! It looks so awesome and I can already imagine it but wonderfully frustrating to fight &lt;3 COMMENT: Alice being the Asylum for the duration of the game, she can dream of being in London and thus enhances the possibilities of what she experience there. She could run into Wonderland characters or still have her Wonderland abilities. Someone mentioned this in a previous stream, I don't remember who though. SUGGESTION: What about playing Little Nightmares? I haven't played it myself, so I don't know how text heavy it is, but it looks really cool and scary <a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/424840/Little_Nightmares/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://store.steampowered.com/app/424840/Little_Nightmares/</a>

SUGGESTION: I'd love to see the Lion and the Unicorn make an appearance at last.

SUGGESTION: The Dormouse and March Hare could be arguing while driving the teapot. COMMENT: The creatures with the baby parts are absolutely horrifying!

Chaussette

QUESTION: Did you guys have the idea of having a dress for each stage of grief and if so is one of the dresses Depression? SUGGESTION: Per my question, the depression dress could look very dull in color and almost have this heavy/weighted look to it (maybe have chains or straps to make her look like she trapped in the dress) and once it's turned on it could make Alice slow but her attacks could be more deadly. Maybe she could have have tears coming from her eyes constantly while wearing this dress and if too many enemies get near her it could trigger an attack where cries harder and sends an energy burst around her to push enemies back while she says things like "just leave me alone!" sorry for my horrible description, I am not fully awake yet so I hope that made sense.

Hannah Young

Out of curiosity did you ever decide on putting the little mini rabbits in Mysterious orders like you joked about last Stream?

I love the boss designs, they are fantastic! I would love to see Martin play Cuphead! And have American read the comments for a change, to mix it up a bit :)

glad to see Marchy and Dormy as the boss ❤️ play Cuphead, boi!

I was never very fond of boss fights, but I think I'm a loner on this topic, thats what I loved on AMR. Anyway, I think those two look very good and terrifying. Parcour in London sounds amazing!!! It's my favorite city in the world so yeah I love this idea. SUGGESTION: maybe Alice could be witnessing some crimes in London and see how awful the world can be so it has also an impact of her Wonderland. I'd love to see you play one of the Tomb Raider games, preferably 2, 3, 4 or one of the reboots. SUGGESTION: I'm not quite happy with the head and face of the bunny, it looks to doggish, they already had a snout in the victorian age so maybe that would be a good addition

SUGGESTIONS : Play Heretic. Is by far my beloved fps ;) About bosses, I personally loved the A:MR tease, as Mr. Angelico says. I personally prefer optional bosses and, totally, I mean totally despise the Nintendo bosses. Invincible period with harder attack pattern and a moment of vulnerability. Repeat three times. I know, a lot of people do like this bosses, I'm just not one of them...

Feedback - the hare in a teapot looks like a proper boss and I'm already scared to encounter it as I die about as much as American does 😂. I'm keeping my pledge at $35 as I want an Alice print of my very own! The rabbit plush... Ummm, it looks like a dog. Sorry. The mouth is wrong I think, I have a bunny and his mouth doesn't look like that at all, the drawings last time were much better

I kinda would like to fight the cheshire cat as a boss, maybe not as a villian boss persay but maybe as an obstacle since cheshire always seems to very aloof and neutral about things.

JustANerd

FWIW, I *love* the non-fight in A:MR. Only in Wonderland does the boss fight's opening cutscene turn into its closing cutscene. (Although Borderlands comes close, with a boss that pretends that it's going to chain into a second boss, but doesn't.) Absolutely love the idea of parkour around London! New livestream game? I support "Fran Bow" suggestions. Yes, there's a good bit of text in it, but you're never rushed, so it's easy enough to keep up with chat.

Rosuav

FEEDBACK: Awesome! I really love all the concepts of bosses in this post! I'm really looking forward to defeat them in the final game :) The rabbit plush concept seems also nice. The design of <a href="http://www.undeadteds.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.undeadteds.com/</a> is great for teddy bears, maybe we could have a rabbit transforming from cute to evil? :) QUESTION: If you stick to the 35$ Pledge level, can you choose an artprint every 3 month or is it a one time offer?

Bad Day LA for sure!

Please playtrough YOUR games. Bad Day LA is a great choice, and I never finished Scrapland/ Grimm. 🙄

sumblinker

Lollipop Chainsaw. Lollipop Chainsaw. Its a trashy but hilariously fun game

I think Bad Day LA would be fun, I'd also like to see you play Little Nightmares ❤


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