Where is this Patreon going ?
Added 2016-07-01 20:46:16 +0000 UTCHey everyone !!!
So, there is something i have been meaning to ask you guys...
The question would be:
"Would you like this Patreon to be just (or mainly) about Raan's Doll?
or about all my work?"
Is true that this Patreon started as a way to keep Raan's Doll alive, but i always wanted to eventually start to make more stuff as more people joined.
The reason I ask this is because some people has told me they are mainly here
because or Raan's Doll, while others tell me they wish there was more ZOAT or transformations comics, so i can see i kind of have more than one audience. And right now i would like to focus on finish the ZOAT and start a new comic later
(that new comic would be exclusive for Patreons until i finish it, then i plan to put it for sale for those who are not Patreons).
I will never abandon Raan's Doll, but i will like to make other works as well
(specially now that i want to prepare for chapter 3, i might need some time to do that).
I would really like to hear your thoughts about this
Should i keep this Patreon for Raan's Doll and maybe make another Patreon for transformation stuff? or should I keep everything on one place (even if that means nor or little Raan's Doll for one month?)
please let me know !
PS: Rewards are coming soon, I need to understand first how this new method of handling payments works. please, be a little more patient.
sorry about than.
-Kannel
Comments
I like Raan's Doll a lot and I think most of us were introduced to your work through it, but I have to say I absolutely love ZOAT and your comics etc., probably even moreso than Raan's Doll. I think that stuff is really top notch. That said, I'd like to see all your stuff kept on the same patreon, even if it means Raan's Doll updates a little less often.
Thirstin_Moore
2016-07-06 05:10:37 +0000 UTCThis is a very good point. I believe Patreon is intended to fund creators, not necessarily creations. The company should be able to provide you specific guidance on this.
neuracnu
2016-07-06 01:09:03 +0000 UTCWell, I first came for Raan's Doll and I, of course, wished it remained your primary focus (by far). That said, your other works are always a pleasure to see, be it ZOAT or anything else in your area of expertise ;-) Now I know you won't be able to keep just EVERYONE happy, people come here for different reasons after all. But as far as I'm concerned, as long as Raan's Doll remains your primary goal for this Patreon, I'm happy :)
Higuita
2016-07-05 20:43:06 +0000 UTCI like all your work. I did come here for raan`s doll but I keep coming back for all the other items you do.
vizrad
2016-07-05 20:16:59 +0000 UTCHi Kannel, I like your work, you are a good designer. I especially like Zoat and all work on the transformation (gender, mind ...)
Charli
2016-07-05 16:28:31 +0000 UTCDefinitely like the current format; love Raan's Doll, but also am enjoying ZOAT and your other submissions. I just really like your artistic style :-)
Osric1i
2016-07-04 22:44:35 +0000 UTCOoh! I'd love a Halloween short comic! Maybe a man trying on a costume intended for a woman, only to find out that the costume has side effects. "We'll make anyone look good in our costumes!" shouts the advertising slogan of the costume maker. Indeed, they are correct. ;)
danielsangeo
2016-07-04 21:30:45 +0000 UTCthank you very much :)
Kannel
2016-07-04 20:00:02 +0000 UTCWelcome and keep the good work
xt102
2016-07-04 19:59:51 +0000 UTCi think thats the way to go , thank you :D
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:59:50 +0000 UTCyay! thank you!
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:59:10 +0000 UTCthank you c:
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:58:44 +0000 UTCthanks ! :D
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:58:18 +0000 UTCthank you c:
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:58:11 +0000 UTChehehe next one should be something for halloween i think ? or there is another holiday before that? i always miss them u.u
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:57:50 +0000 UTCI can tell we are close to the end of chapter 2, and i know it will take me a while to prepare for chapter 3, Raan's doll is a comic that takes me lot longer on the making than other stuff i do. anyway, a lot of people's been saying they enjoy all the content i create so i migth keep it all in just one place and try to even the content a bit more.
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:57:09 +0000 UTCc: i like the ZOAT a lot too , is fun to make :P
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:53:03 +0000 UTCThose were m thoughts at some point ... but that would be unfair to the people who enjoy all the stuff i do... since they would have to pay twice if i create a separated Patreon... I think i will try to even the content from now on and see how that goes...
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:52:55 +0000 UTCthnak you c: , yup, is easier for sure :P
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:49:06 +0000 UTCthank you c:
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:48:33 +0000 UTCSunstone schedule is amazing taking in consideration all the other projects he is working on at the same time... i wish i was that fast :/ ... but well... Shiniez has tons more experience making comics than me :P hope i get there some day...
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:48:25 +0000 UTCI though the same, but seems most people like to see both crossdress and tg stuff i think, i think i will try to even the content so everyones happy? we will see how it goes i guess
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:45:10 +0000 UTCi believe that too, thanks c:
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:43:48 +0000 UTCthanks a lot ! :D
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:43:15 +0000 UTCthanks :) i think that too
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:42:52 +0000 UTChehe i undertand your point, but i like doing other stuff too :P
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:42:34 +0000 UTCyeah .. is also easier to handle just one patreon :)
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:41:54 +0000 UTCThanks! :) i don't see why not anyway, many Patreons are tied to a project and not to a person... but i dont think i will take that path
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:40:59 +0000 UTCi understand that :P
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:40:11 +0000 UTCanyway... im pretty sure i will take one month off with Raan's Doll wen chapter 2 is done to prepare content for chapter 3, but i will let people know.
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:39:36 +0000 UTCthat's understable... and pretty much why i created this thread... i know i have 2 audiences and is a problem to keep both happy... but most people seem like they prefer that i keep all together anyway, so i might need to "water down" Raans Doll... now the idea is to make both equal really, and as I get more suscribers, that means more pages too... soo... the change shoulnt be too big... just wont be all or most of my work here about Raans Doll
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:37:55 +0000 UTC:) i dont want to change it either :P
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:33:35 +0000 UTCmost likely i will :)
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:32:59 +0000 UTCthank you c:
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:32:11 +0000 UTCthanks :)
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:31:53 +0000 UTCthanks :D
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:31:40 +0000 UTC:)
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:31:15 +0000 UTCthank you! c: isn't like i'm stopping making Raan's Doll anyway ... just saying that i how i deliver the content might vary
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:30:31 +0000 UTCthanks :)
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:29:57 +0000 UTCthats understable :P
Kannel
2016-07-04 19:29:21 +0000 UTCI love all of your work. I would support you with any way you choose.
Kameron Walker
2016-07-03 01:48:03 +0000 UTCI came to support you as an artist but i mostly read ranns doll and some of the singular pages, i would be sad if you slit them as I can only afford one to support but I dont feel uncatered for if you need to pause one for the other for a while
OiranLala
2016-07-03 01:40:31 +0000 UTCplus.....we're not supporting you because we like seeing one thing, we support you cuz it gives you the opportunity to show your talents off to those who really appreciate it! its an awesome way for the fans to be able to help you do what you love, and a tiny part of us can feel like we helped make it possible :D
Kayden of Course
2016-07-02 16:06:39 +0000 UTCThe format you have now works for me. Honestly, I'm just proud of you that you can stay productive. I know it's not easy. Raan's Doll is cute, but If you can continue to make more comics like Spa Special, I'll continue to give you money!
Monty
2016-07-02 15:55:53 +0000 UTCI like all of your work I like what you do so make more comics
xt102
2016-07-02 15:52:23 +0000 UTCI am here mainly for Raan's Doll myself, but I do love all your work that you post to Patreon and anything you make in general that's TG related! :)
danielsangeo
2016-07-02 14:03:26 +0000 UTCShort comics all the way :) Raan's doll is a great long-form story, but I love the short comics, seasonally themed comics even more :)
Marie13
2016-07-02 10:48:54 +0000 UTCI'm with the vast majority here that one Patreon account is the best option. Raan's Doll is certainly my favourite series, for reasons other people have mentioned, but the one-pagers, shorts, and ZOAT etc are fun too. I guess we can stand having slightly less emphasis on Raan and Sammy for a month or two if it means we then get a nice rush of chapter three - the recent pages are a kind of interlude between chapter two and chapter three, judging by how they are numbered?
Martin Lock
2016-07-02 10:06:20 +0000 UTCZoat is my fav.
Stormfries
2016-07-02 08:48:24 +0000 UTCI've read all your work and love it all but Raan's Doll is by far my favourite. The characters just seem more real. The main thing I like about ZOAT is its slightly more explicit nature, it's nice to see the characters in their most intimate moments (Zoat page 14 is definitely a favourite). I'd love to see more of those explicit moments in Raan's Doll. C02P56 is great and is definitely a step in the right direction. Seeing more of Raan and Sammy making love would make a nice change from skipping to the morning after. When you've built up so much anticipation with earlier pages it'd be nice to see a more visual ending to their adventures. In relation to your question I'd just say to go for whatever option let's you create the most Raan's Doll pages.
RChapel
2016-07-02 08:35:30 +0000 UTCI also say keep it in one, better to handle it i think. I would support it either way. π Great art and love everythingπ
Bas.1978
2016-07-02 08:34:18 +0000 UTCall your work is brilliant keep it together!
Kassidy Renault
2016-07-02 08:06:20 +0000 UTCI came across your work yesterday and subscribed, mainly for Raan's Doll, So I would like to see that storyline expand, see the characters gain further depth, see how the story arc's, etc. I checked out ZOAT, Spa special and other items, they are good but IMO not as good. I think its find to expand into other works but it would be great if there was a schedule for RD that was better then sunstone :)
J S
2016-07-02 06:40:01 +0000 UTCI don't care for crossdress stuff. I say separate the content.
ZBL
2016-07-02 06:27:58 +0000 UTCI contribute to support you and the art. Raan's Doll is great, but the other stuff is just as fun to me. I'd imagine most people here are just into your art and stories in general, so I wouldn't say you should feel scared about doing other things under the Patreon. Keep everything together in one place, since that's easier for you to manage and us to appeal to.
Christy
2016-07-02 06:27:36 +0000 UTCPersonally I'm not that into Raan's Doll and don't think it's the most interesting thing you do. I've always been a bigger fan of your tg/tf pin-ups and short comics more. And will always prefer more of that. I love how successful this Patreon has been for you, and regardless I hope you keep doing what you enjoy and get paid for doing it.
GuyBcaps
2016-07-02 06:16:42 +0000 UTCI would keep it all together on one site.
Mia Yuuki
2016-07-02 02:12:39 +0000 UTCI contribute for Raan's Doll. I love all your work but I chip in because of Sammy's story! It's such a departure from the usual stories of this subject (unwilling, forced, degradation, etc.) and the fact that your characters love and support each other is so amazing! I want more Raan's Doll!
Celeadyne
2016-07-02 00:50:06 +0000 UTCI would keep it all in one easy to follow location like you have it. There's no need to do what some people do with projects by splitting them up into more than one patreon site.
lightningshifter
2016-07-02 00:47:00 +0000 UTCAs a sidenote btw... one of the reasons I enjoy the art of Raan's Doll so much over your other work is - besides the elaborately constructed storyline and finely tuned, identifiable characters - perhaps the fact that, in this particular comic, you refrained from drawing your girls way too busty (beyond realistic levels). If you'd allow me the pun: If I liked utters so much, I'd watch some cows. Remember "A Brand New World"? Equally enticing storyline and amazing artwork - but when Oliver grew her oversized tits, that was almost a turn-off for me. Just my personal two cents.
Robert E.
2016-07-02 00:11:16 +0000 UTCI like all of your content. Also, I'm not sure if it's permitted to make more than one Patreon.
Dov Sherman
2016-07-01 23:48:22 +0000 UTCRaan's Doll certainly drew me in, but i enjoy all your work. I will be happy either way, but i prefer if it was about all your work :)
Claus Larsen
2016-07-01 23:44:47 +0000 UTCWhile I enjoy most of your content to a certain extent, my main reason for being here is certainly Raan's doll - the more, the better. The storyline is just great, the characters are very likeable and I just want to see where this is going. Soo... I have to admit, if you were to "water down" Raan to the point of "no or little Raan's Doll" for several months in a row, I would probably move on. I hope I do not come across as threatening or dictating (and I seriously hope I cannot threaten people by potentially withholding 3$), but... the comic is what drew me here, plain and simple.
Cifer
2016-07-01 23:35:10 +0000 UTCI enjoy all of your work, so I'd like it if you kept it the way it is now (or similar at least).
Nichole O'Conner
2016-07-01 23:24:29 +0000 UTCI primarily enjoy Rann's Doll and some of your one offs. I'm sure I'll enjoy what ever you make though.
Makeshift Razor
2016-07-01 23:07:23 +0000 UTCWhile all your art is amazing I far prefer there to be a storyline far more than just 1 off images as its difficult to get any real feel for the characters in single image(well for me anyway) so mostly here for Raans doll which I love and is definitely why I became a patron, Zoat is good too but out of the 2 def prefer Ranns doll but I wouldn't say you should do nothing but Raans doll stuff, do whatever you feel most inspired most to do especially if you have another comic in mind.
Shadovaria
2016-07-01 22:54:44 +0000 UTCI like your other work, buuuuuuut I became a donor because I couldn't wait to see what was new in Raan's Doll.
Ryan Geoghagan
2016-07-01 22:36:49 +0000 UTCSome other creators offer rewards for a limited time, before selling them individually on gumroad. I think I'll go down this road someday.
Shelby
2016-07-01 22:16:23 +0000 UTCthank you :D
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:15:04 +0000 UTC:)
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:13:43 +0000 UTCnods nods :)
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:13:33 +0000 UTCthanks ! :D
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:13:24 +0000 UTCthank you c:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:12:59 +0000 UTCthats true, thanks for your comment c:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:12:44 +0000 UTCc:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:12:25 +0000 UTCthanks c:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:12:14 +0000 UTCyeah... it will also make it more complicated for me to handle 2 accounts... but was just a thought... i really wanted to hear what my supporters had to say about it c:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:11:43 +0000 UTCthat's actually not a bad idea... i might want to keep all in one place, but i will have that option in consideration :) thanks!
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:09:19 +0000 UTCi think you are right, also about the e-shop. Thats what i want to start working on a new comic aside, but also keeping it as early access for Patreons c:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:07:52 +0000 UTCthanks ! yeah you are right ... a poll might be a good idea since is also anonymous.
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:05:57 +0000 UTCThat is understandable, and I don't begrudge you for it in the slightest. Your workmanship is high quality, and I want you to be able to continue to create and release art that you're proud of. Please continue your amazing work, I will still continue to support you.
Steph H
2016-07-01 22:05:45 +0000 UTCyeah, splitting the account would be the worst options ... for that reason i wanted to know, as you said i like doing what i do, but sometimes i feel like working with close deadlines and needing to rush to finish the pages on time ... which is not great for creative work i think ... or maYbe sometimes it is , but not all the time :p
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:03:57 +0000 UTCthanks ! c:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:01:13 +0000 UTCthanks ! :) ... well there is also the factor that Raan's Doll pages take me way longer to make than the ZOAT for example... specially because of the story and dialogue... and sometimes i feel like im just hiting deadlines with it lately ... i would like to get some time to work more on the story, specially now that chapter 3 is looking closer c:
Kannel
2016-07-01 22:00:38 +0000 UTCIm really here for raans doll. But dont object to your other stuff. Im happy as it is i guess.
William Austin
2016-07-01 21:56:09 +0000 UTCI'd prefer to have all of your amazing work accessible through one Patreon, just as it is. I think this makes it a lot easier for your fans, followers and supporters to keep track of your work.
Dawn2069MS
2016-07-01 21:44:42 +0000 UTCI'm here for your creativity, which includes Raan's Doll, Zoat and eveything else you make.
Delicurious
2016-07-01 21:43:18 +0000 UTCPersonally I can only speak for myself and for me I'm here to support you. I am in total love with all your work. I have seen others do a split patreon like you're talking about but it seems they don't get as much back from having two separate accounts plus you have got the hassle of managing two accounts. If it were me, I would stick to a singular account for all your incredible artwork xx
Sonic Sophie
2016-07-01 21:42:18 +0000 UTCI love all of your work. I'm happy every time there's an update, regardless if it's Raan, ZOAT or another piece. Even if you create another Patreon for the non-Raan, you still have to do the same amount of work. That's how I see it. So what's the point?
Crale87
2016-07-01 21:39:06 +0000 UTCI love all your work, and I for one want to see more variety. I love Raan's Doll and would miss it, but I want you to grow as an artist. Keep up the awesome work.
Gary Lubben
2016-07-01 21:30:31 +0000 UTCGotta admit that Raan's Doll made me become a patron in the first place, so of course I'd love to see that particular comic progress. But I do enjoy a lot of your other stuff as well, especially the single-page comics you did. Hence I don't mind these "digressions" at all. As long as we get our regular shot of Raanea and Sammy, my addiction will surely keep me at bay. However, if you feel like splitting Raan's Doll from your various other ventures and distribute across multiple Patreons (which is also fine), you may want to turn the single-titled ones into a pledge-per-page type, and keep the current monthly payment-plan only for the "various" art you create. It would help us patrons to split your money easier across them as well. And in turn give you better insight about what your fans really like the most.
Robert E.
2016-07-01 21:24:31 +0000 UTCPatreon is for support, so having 2 pages for similar stuf by the same person isn't really the way to go. You should keep the current works on Patreon, and maybe sell new works on an e-shop. But if you want to try new things and post them on deviantart, it will definitely bring more people on Patreon.
Shelby
2016-07-01 21:22:44 +0000 UTCEverything
Bigd7600
2016-07-01 21:22:09 +0000 UTCWhile the series is a draw, and a fav of many. One of the hazards of pushing for more of the Raan's strip is that it will end sooner. (Because you did do that look-ahead panel....) Then what? I believe running con-current strips will get you use to 'production comics' quickly. Not unlike writing where you have one story/book in first draft, another in 3rd draft, another out to the publisher, and yet another in editorial review. Juggling multiple strips will help your growth. (I'll add that you are VERY talented & skilled already.) IMO multiple strips can only help. What you could do for us ontributers is an actual poll on one of the polling sites - drop a link to contributors and see where the weight of opinion lands.
Jai-Dee Worth
2016-07-01 21:16:47 +0000 UTCInitially I became interested in your work through Raan's Doll, but now I enjoy seeing all of your work. I think you should keep pumping out a variety, it keeps it interesting. There are obviously others out there who want specific content, but I'm sure pretty much all of us don't mind waiting for our favorite content to come out. We can just enjoy all of the other stuff while we wait.
Kaitlyn Snow
2016-07-01 21:07:16 +0000 UTCUltimately, I believe you should keep one patreon for everything. Splitting the two works isn't going to help you, or those who enjoy your work. Splitting up the two doesn't man that there's going to be more Raan's Doll or more ZOAT. This is your time, and I'm sure you're doing it already as fast as you can. It's your focus, after all. It's your work, your passion, and I don't think we'd see the wonderful quality and stories without your enjoyment of it. Splitting up the two would mean that we only get half the content, pretty much. Heck, some might accuse you for double-dipping on your fan's profits, and that just hurts everyone in the process. I'd hate to see that happen. (Though if it does, you may have to take that into consideration). But honestly, it's your work, your comics, your stories. I think it's all better if it's all made together, and we can all enjoy it.
Polk Kitsune
2016-07-01 21:05:53 +0000 UTCi think personally anyone who is a fan of your work will enjoy to see whatever you post. of course Raan's doll is unique and amazing, but you have so much talent that to put you into one category would be a shame! do you kannel!
Kayden of Course
2016-07-01 21:01:03 +0000 UTCRaan's Doll is by far my favorite of your works. I heartily enjoy your other artistic works as well, but I look at things like ZOAT as something to fill in for when there isn't any new pages of Raan's Doll. I would personally prefer more pages of Raan's Doll over one off ZOAT, but I'm biased. Whatever you choose, please keep creating, you are extremely talented.
Steph H
2016-07-01 21:00:01 +0000 UTCI like it all in the same place. I like your stuff and though I originally came just for Rann's Doll I want to see the other stuff too.
Andrew
2016-07-01 20:57:37 +0000 UTCI love Raan's doll but all of your work I have read is great... Keep them all and more... VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE
Royse Loren Leech
2016-07-01 20:56:13 +0000 UTCI enjoy the variety of all of your works, both those related to Rann's Doll and those that are not. I suspect most people are like me and basically just want to see more of what you create. :)
"Thelo" Louis Paquin
2016-07-01 20:55:04 +0000 UTCI think you should keep for everything
Majortom589
2016-07-01 20:48:03 +0000 UTC
