Sprint 5 experiment

I've seen and played that but unfortunately it seems to be stalled (again). There's supposed to be a version 9 in the works but the people doing it aren't communicating at all

bsnick

I know the fight system in Bangkok is supposed to be more complex, I'm just saying that if she goes to a Muay Thai school while she's there, she's not going to be learning any grapples. Though maybe that can be something else you do: Muay Thai for striking, Jiu Jitsu for grappling. Get really good at one, get pretty good at both, or have to spend a *lot* of time investing to be really good at both.

hornguy6

That's true; if a john tries to take even more liberties than usual and she breaks his wrist, that would be very suspicious if she's supposed to be just some random girl, as most girls don't know how to do that.

Wild Bill

Thanks man, appreciate you feeding back on this.

Crushstation

I'm basically only doing this so we can have a weekly oil wrestling floorshow at the Hard Cock Cafe :-D

Crushstation

Thanks man, see my reply to Spiralnebula above but thanks for reinforcing that feedback. It may be that this has a negative effect.

Crushstation

Great point, actual Muay Thai bouts will need to have points and rounds.

Crushstation

This is important feedback and it's the main reason that I haven't tackled things like this so far, they're just too far down the priority list to get around to. I've started doing this as an experiment (based on Alex Andrews's Scrum of One technique https://www.raywenderlich.com/585-scrum-of-one-how-to-bring-scrum-into-your-one-person-operation ), so let's see how it goes. I think the idea is that squeezing in a few hours every couple of weeks to work on something fun and low-pressure makes me more productive for the rest of the sprint.)

Crushstation

You should check out Fight Club Reborn, featuring writing by our very own Dissonant Soundtrack! Fighting in matches will be optional, although cuts and bruises are a good idea – maybe some agents will have to get pretty creative with their makeup if they have a shift at the Hard Cock Cafe the night after a girl/girl cage fight.

Crushstation

If we see hit points as someone's ability to soak up hits without being hurt, I've already got something that does that; a fighter's Strength stat gives them a chance to just shrug off a blow without picking up a status effect. Hopefully it will work out. I should have been clearer – the fight engine isn't just supposed to support Muay Thai. The tutorial/testing scene I'm working on is a schoolyard catfight between the agent and another girl: the available strikes are [[slap her]], [[scratch her]] and [[kick her shins]]; the grapples are [[pull her hair]] and [[grab her shirt]].

Crushstation

Thanks let's hope it works when we test it :-)

Crushstation

Being known to have picked up some Muay Thai may actually help your agent's cover, should her fighting skills be exposed during the mission. :-)

Crushstation

i would focus more on getting what you have planned done before adding in an entirely new system

It could be very useful and fun/hot for the scope of the game to have a basic combat system that uses the agent's stats (the "personality" ones too), and then plan different consequences when winning or losing. It shouldn't be anything overly complicated or go outside the "I need to fight" scope though (so no tournaments, etc..), it's not the core of the game.

Enrico

I think this is a considerable over stretch for a game that has been going for ?over a year now and barely has any working sex scenes or interactions. Get the actual game working and then consider adding something like this, but dont sacrifice core content time.

Goblin steve

Combat system seems complicated, and also, Muay Thai has rather specific rules and a point system that would be a shame to overlook. If you are to do this, the status effects proposed should affect the PC's ability to score points. Overall, the status effect vs. HP idea is a good one! HP's are too abstract for a story-based game.

Anarchitect

Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way but if this continues to eat into dev time of the rest of the game I think it's a bad idea regardless of quality, because it's not part of the game's main draw and development has already taken a lot longer than expected.

Spiralnebula

Unrelated: I'd love to have a game dedicated to a girl trying to become a pro fighter. I'm not sure how much you should focus on a fight system. It depends on how much melee you see us doing. I like the lack of hit points. Status effects/debuffs could be a few seconds to a few months (bad concussions that last and therefore affect your outside work). Your opponent, if they are perceptive, can worsen the status effect, making the effects more onerous and long-lasting. Ie, they do something that debuffs your strength until the debuff is greater than your strength score and you fall down. I suspect that our agent wouldn't engage in matches herself, though, as it seems unprofessional for someone whose job relies on their looks to risks bruises and cuts

bsnick

I like it a lot but having no hit points would probably overcomplicate things. Everything else is good and you can give bonuses or penalties to hit and damage based on that and even have the conditions that give similar penalties, but for now I think it's best to stick to the tried and true hit point system. Especially with both combatants taking their turn at the same time. Another thing is you may consider making it a straight up MMA thing instead of specifically Muay Thai. I say that because I think it is good to include the grappling, but Muay Thai doesn't actually involve grappling. It's a mainly striking fighting style with fists, feet, elbows, and knees that has a pseudo grappling stage called "the clinch" which is actually just a position you put your opponent in to make it easier to elbow or knee them in the face. As opposed to something like Judo or Jiu Jitsu which brings someone fully to the floor to lock limbs into positions that threaten breaking them and forcing someone to tap out if they can't escape. I like grappling and I definitely think it should be an option, but then you can't call it Muay Thai. That or you're just bringing an unfair advantage to the table :)

hornguy6

Excellent, pleased with the innovations, especially agree with the tactical choice. Good luck

VitAnyaNaked

Not sure how to think about this; I love tough girls (that cover image is amazing), but isn't our agent being a fighter supposed to be a secret?

Wild Bill