154 - When Dobson Met Bundy… (feat. I Hate James Dobson) [Whit’s Endless Summer 38]
Added 2024-09-04 06:00:05 +0000 UTC
Jake from the I Hate James Dobson podcast joins the lads for a Whit’s Endless Summer: Origins as they zero in on Focus on the Family founder James Dobson and his interview with one of the most vicious monsters in American history: Ted Bundy. Topics include the psychopathy of Bundy, the narcissism of Dobson, and the horrific societal implications of trying to ban Santa from your phone sexline.
I Hate James Dobson: Join therapists Jake (a former Evangelical) and Brooke (who knows almost nothing about Evangelical culture) as they read and tear apart Dobson’s works. Get ready to laugh, cry, and rip your hair out as we explore the very many reasons why I Hate James Dobson.
Media Referenced in this Episode:
The Playlist
WHMB-TV Indianapolis Ted Bundy Final Interview & Panel Discussion, 1989
January 23, 1989 Dr James Dobson press conference on eve of Ted Bundy’s execution
Dr. James Dobson Interview About Pornography & Ted Bundy
Dr James Dobson - Pornography: Addictive, Progressive and Deadly
Ted Bundy Dr. James Dobson on the 30th anniversary of Bundy's execution
The Research
“3 state attorneys leaving: Tanner didn't run from controversy” by Dana Treen. The Florida-Times Union. Jan. 4th, 2009.
“Anti-pornography groups reportedly got profits from Ted Bundy tape” Tampa Bay Times, April 7, 1990
Attorney General's Commission on Pornography, Final Report
The Historical Timeline of Focus on the Family
Defending the Devil : My Story as Ted Bundy's Last Lawyer by Polly Nelson. William Morrow and Company. 1952.
James Dobson's War on America by Gil Alexander-Moegerle. Prometheus Books. 1997.
“Last Bundy Interview Called ‘Con Game’” Deseret News, September 12, 1989
The Only Living Witness: The True Story of Serial Sex Killer Ted Bundy by Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth. Authorlink Press. 1999.
“The Root of James Dobson’s Political Power Is Decades of Parenting Advice” by Sarah McCammon. Time. July 25th, 2024.
The Stranger Beside Me by Ann Rule. Pocket Books. 2009.
TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com
Commercial: “The Interview” // Written by A.J. Ditty // Starring Zac Moon as “Ted Tindale” and James Fouhey as “Kerrin J. Wyatt” // Feat. “Fleetwood Mac - The Chain: violin cover” by Steve Bingham.
Hey James Fouhey has an INCREDIBLE voice please tell me he does audiobooks
Ray of F---ing Sunshine
2024-09-10 10:50:44 +0000 UTC
He probably thought, luckily there's a focus on the family guy
Jimmy McMillan
2024-09-09 04:35:30 +0000 UTC
1:51:13 I’ve had a terminal brain disease where I spontaneously sing “Focus On The Family Guy” to the tune of the Family Guy theme song for months now. Humbly requesting your prayers
Sergeant Hare Apollo
2024-09-08 23:01:51 +0000 UTC
just hearing the audio of bundy is beyond chilling like holy fuck
Ciara Rhiannon
2024-09-07 01:27:03 +0000 UTC
Been thinking more about this and like... maybe ten years prior to the interviewyou has R.D. Laing comparing the nuclear family to the Cold war and like a shitty family life can ruin treatment and this asshole is just "nah"
Lain of the Wired
2024-09-06 15:21:43 +0000 UTC
Halfway through listening to this I found a sticker my parents got me last year when in Colorado Springs that says “Colorado springs is for everyone” w/ a pride flag. Thought it was random at the time but now I have the context of why that sticker was made in the first place.
Tyler Jay
2024-09-06 13:34:32 +0000 UTC
Ok, having now finished the episode completely, I will also be adding the therapy bill for experiencing that final song.
Max
2024-09-06 04:20:39 +0000 UTC
Having to hear James Dobson utter the words “she spent two hours arranging herself to score a hit on his sensory apparatus” has dealt me psychic damage and I will be sending you my therapy bill. Very dark energy.
Also, I begin to detect a new running commercial bit forming.
Max
2024-09-06 04:09:55 +0000 UTC
apparently when he was on solo shifts he’d turn off the switchboard altogether and just nap or whatever
The Worst of all Possible Worlds
2024-09-06 03:08:57 +0000 UTC
The commentary about the interview is interesting as heck, but hold on a second… Ted Bundy used to work at a suicide hotline? Like trying to help people? That’s messed up. Imagine realizing you had talked to him!
Elizabeth Power
2024-09-05 23:57:33 +0000 UTC
the “tetris ripoff where each piece is three blocks” was Columns for the sega genesis and it did sound like that.
Louise Lopez
2024-09-05 17:20:27 +0000 UTC
I love how the Christian calender commercials music ranges between muzak, hold tunes, and porno jazz every other bar.
Grouchiest Marxiest
2024-09-05 17:13:55 +0000 UTC
Incredible Mulaney impression
Kacey Riley
2024-09-05 14:01:45 +0000 UTC
thank you for bringing up the problems with the term judeo-christian values, its something that i always find incredibly frustrating as a jew
Theodore DeVinney
2024-09-05 03:22:23 +0000 UTC
The camel speech was one of the best written and acted villain monologues I've heard in a bit
Mason Shrader
2024-09-05 01:48:59 +0000 UTC
He hwaht???
Jordan Y Clementi
2024-09-05 00:52:04 +0000 UTC
I find it beyond charming that Ted Bundy got on camera and said "It seems today that all you see is violence in movies and sex on TV" and the reverend preacher Dr. James Dobson, evangelist ate it up.
Jordan Y Clementi
2024-09-04 23:38:06 +0000 UTC
There is always a man. There is always a lighthouse. There is always at least one character whose first and last names begin with the same letter.
The Worst of all Possible Worlds
2024-09-04 22:49:54 +0000 UTC
1:06:53 - real Christian Slater moment
Noah
2024-09-04 22:11:04 +0000 UTC
word up
mclonergan
2024-09-04 22:08:41 +0000 UTC
Looking forward to the new BioShock game set in Providence
By Tove!
2024-09-04 21:48:45 +0000 UTC
check out our episode on "Saturday's Warrior" for both clarification and boppin' tunes.
The Worst of all Possible Worlds
2024-09-04 21:21:01 +0000 UTC
Unrelated to this episode, where does “who are these ___ coming down?” Come from? Josh says it a lot
mclonergan
2024-09-04 21:07:47 +0000 UTC
hi bosh this comment was just for you :)
Elah
2024-09-04 19:42:11 +0000 UTC
The WHMB bumper sounds like something you'd hear on an edition-of-20 cassette with hand painted artwork some dude in Delaware made under the name Clitoral Hood or Fill Werrel or something. Which is to say it rules. I'm gonna overlay some TR-707 samples and pass it off in a DJ set as an exclusive Delroy Edwards rarity
Elah
2024-09-04 19:41:43 +0000 UTC
WAITAMINUTE
Ted said his parents were "focused" on their kids! shockeditalianmovieguy.gif Bundy masterminded the whole thing from the beginning! From Odyssey to Money Matters with Larry Burkett...
Dergon
2024-09-04 18:48:50 +0000 UTC
Awww fuck y'all just cracked open the memory of Life on the Edge. Luckily so far all I remember is the front cover
Rosey Armstrong
2024-09-04 18:24:25 +0000 UTC
Charles Keating positing the existence of a Special Homosexual Task Force of Obvious Fraud Office’s US branch.
Ben Gialenios
2024-09-04 18:15:40 +0000 UTC
Tbf we later found out Bill Clinton was actually a horrible libertine
John Her
2024-09-04 18:03:39 +0000 UTC
his quitting the APA over being gay getting declassified as a mental illness is so fascinating to me cuz it really puts him squarely in the old school idea of the purpose of psychiatry being for social control rather than mental well-being.
Lain of the Wired
2024-09-04 17:24:41 +0000 UTC
It's a big big yard where we can play rez ball.
Yes, that was for Brian and Brian only
Rosey Armstrong
2024-09-04 15:17:45 +0000 UTC
It seems the Dobson library still has an article about "serial killer warns the world about pornography," so Dobson is still living in his little mirror world. Not that I'd expect anything otherwise. Psychologically, he NEEDS to see the world as he sees it and not how it actually is. His own self image depends on it.
Okie From Muskogee
2024-09-04 14:18:33 +0000 UTC
Bundy says "p'rnography" in the same way as the guy from Every Young Man's Battle. Sometimes Dobson does too.
BarFly
2024-09-04 12:39:51 +0000 UTC
Wait a minute, RAYFORD Florida? What is this?
Amy Godliman
2024-09-04 09:55:48 +0000 UTC
A note about the comics panic most of it’s claims about comic books came from another shitty psychologist fredich wertham and his book seduction of the innocent
Zipzapzop
2024-09-04 06:49:42 +0000 UTC
At work, deciding to listen to aio for some self-flagellating reason for the first time in months, 10 minutes in I accidentally sweep up a leaflet about “why jesus died” and immediately got the notification for this episode. Someone is watching me and I’m scared. But also hella excited for this topic
LogalogJack
2024-09-04 06:14:34 +0000 UTC