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Predator Commentary. Stephen Buchanan. (Take 2)

As promised, here's the new version of the Buchanan commentary.
If you've already watched this one, the new section starts at around 52:40.

Starting a new trial tomorrow so as always, you can check the progress of current work over on the Link Sheet

Also, I only heard today about what happened to Walls. I cannot believe YouTube terminated his channel?! That is quite scary. I wonder what happened behind the scenes there.

Predator Commentary. Stephen Buchanan. (Take 2)

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That’s awesome. There’s one thing i noticed about jeff sokol that id love to share if you plan on doing a dave on dave on that episode

Kevin Wright

Preferential maybe the wrong word. I think I'm onto something I can't describe it too clearly.

sampled tms

This is very insightful. PTSD doesn't = BAD PERSON. You're 100 percent spot on, just because one may have troubling feeling empathy or emotion towards another human, doesn't mean it's not in there. It may be blocked or hard to access. But if deep down at your core you are able to experience those feelings, your logical brain will alert you to that. Stephen in my opinion is absolutely not suffering from PTSD. Just 100 percent an imbecile who is way to horny for his own good. Porn addiction, cheating on his girfriend, these are all signs more of sociopathy or psychopathy than any PTSD, in my opinion.

Dave's Lemonade

It' something that I for sure will think about. I've been doing that little Dave on Dave series where I look over old work that i've done, I think after this video, whenever I do those videos I might take notes, and if something needs to be revissited I'll make a follow up video, like this section here.

Dave's Lemonade

After I released the video I actually thought of him. Cody Green is probably THE most honest out of them all. Disgustingly, troublingly, horrendously honest.

Dave's Lemonade

I see what you're saying. Like a preferential offender just likes how they look, where as situational could be more of a subconcious psychological motivator. I actually haven't done too much research into that and I'll do that right now. I would like to know if preferential status is purely physical or if the classification comes down to subconscious inner workings.

Dave's Lemonade

No worries at all. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I'm so glad to read I got it right! Haha i would be lying if i said i didn't practise it a few times before recording.

Dave's Lemonade

100 percent!

Dave's Lemonade

Wow, you've linked something together that confused me greatly in the past. That is absolutely what happened.

Dave's Lemonade

Or take screenshots and share it around with your friends to ridicule!

Dave's Lemonade

Lorne Armstrong style hey hahaha

Dave's Lemonade

Appreciate you!

Dave's Lemonade

Thanks for being with me for so long! It feels like an eon ago that all of this started hey. I truly do think it's important to be able to understand these men. It helps understand what the issue is, why they do this, and what to look out for. I have a young nephew and after doing these videos, I believe I'm slightly more in tune with shady situations that he might find himself in. That's just one example, but the true hope I have, is that young people themselves might watch one of these videos and at the very least, it opens them up to doing teir own research on grooming behaviour, allowing them to recognise it if it were to ever happen to them. The more people talk about this, be it 20 year old Dateline segments or current affairs, the more young people become aware of an ever present problem in our society. The empathising part comes from a genuine place, the more I understand something, (Or atleast believe i understand it) the more I can feel sorrow for what they're going through. That doesn't equal a free pass, just understanding. Also, great idea on the bringing chat log parts over to the main video. I may just do that. When a predator says something to Chris that directly contradicts their chat log, I'll bring it up and say "hang on a minute, what about this?"

Dave's Lemonade

You did a great job at articulating yourself, and for morning struggle thoughts, these are brilliant. I appreciate the kind words you sent my way and have been thinking about how to reply for a little now. The reason I say I think I can be manipulated is due to having been manipulated before. I wouldn't say by anyone on Stephen's level, actually the one in particular I'm thinking about is highly intelligent. But still, there's this unwillingness within me to look at the bad once I think there's enough good to gloss over important details. I have been aware of this for some time now, implementing solutions is yet another part of the learning process for me. Mark my word, from this video forward I will pay more attention to those ramblings when they come up, whilst i'm reviewing a situation. And instead of thinking "ah, I don't need to waste everyone's time going into that, because they already know it" I'll lean in and go for a nother good old fahsioned tangent. I hope you've been well since writing this and I look forward to what the New Year will hold.

Dave's Lemonade

Hahah I love that you said you dated a few back in the day. I can't argue with you at all, it's all about the confidence and self assuredness. If a funny looking guy has that, then they'll be fine in the relationship department. Also, if he were so lonely... why not talk to his current girlfriend about it. Drives me insane when people experiencing these sort of issues and are in a relationship. Says a lot about how weak minded I think they are. Unhappy totally, but unable to end a relationship that's not fulfilling them. At the least they're lying to themselves and their partner, at the worst they're making another human's life a living hell and that person doesn't understand why.

Dave's Lemonade

Thanks so much, TPR. It's something I really enjoy doing, going inwards and trying to understand why certain things are happening or feeling a certain way. It was great to be able to explore that with you all on a video and I am grateful to read that it was something you appreciated.

Dave's Lemonade

Ah, Allie. Your words definitely resonate with me here. I don't really know what to say but I understand this feeling. I have similar thoughts when I look at my nephew. Wondering about the times when he'll have troubles at work, maybe get rejected by someone he likes, when he's out for a night out and someone says something nasty to him uncalled for. All of these moments now whilst he's a child, they'll mean nothing to those people around him later, and it makes me feels sad.

Dave's Lemonade

Ooof. I have thought about tackling that one a few times. I think, if memory serves correctly, he has a whopping 1 hour interview with chris and then 2 more hours of police interview. That's what is keeping me away from it. But i most definitely will be tackling him at some point.

Dave's Lemonade

Hi Dave, just submitting my request for you to cover Nathan Downhour next. He's a guy with a very quiet and awkward demeanor, which I feel will lend to a lot of insightful commentary!

Curt

So this is so interesting to me. I'm a spec ed teacher (high school and middle school students). I have never talked to anyone else about this.. but I do the same sort of thing but the opposite. I'll be working with a student (maybe a particularly troubled one..) and start to visualize that kid as an adult, maybe in their 40s or 50s and what they might be like. And think of how no one would have seen the parts and pieces of what they're going through now. And then I start to get sad sometimes because I think there will be a point when they're out in the world, dealing with all the unforgiving realities of adulthood, and no one will cut them slack anymore or give them any benefit of the doubt. And I just think I hope the world is kind to them. Also this is not to say I think he deserves "sympathy".. but just to say we are all human. One of the things I love about your channel is your ability to pull out the shred of humanity in some of these awfully twisted people even if it is just the smallest shred.

Allie

Just listened to this whilst on the skive at work on this fine Sunday. Dave, I really appreciated your introspection here. It was really touching to be taken through your thought process as a creator, and I feel you approached this topic in a really brave and vulnerable way. Much appreciated and thank you for opening up.

telephonerust

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any woman that has any sympathy for stephen. Funny-looking guys have been pulling chicks since the beginning of time (i dated a few in high school to varying results 😵‍💫), he just failed at everything that would make him a more attractive partner. Hes not a war hero, he gave himself a porn addiction through self-isolation, and can barely finish a sentence because hes so unconfident. And his lawyers excuse that he did it because he was "lonely", contributes to the argument that its women's fault that he tried to groom and molest a child. If he was so lonely, he should've gone to the dozens of events held for veterans and made friends. But then he wouldn't be able to get his rocks off on someone he felt he had power over. No sympathy 🥴

ashley rockandparole

I appreciate the introspection and I think it is great that you listened to yourself and did what your gut/mind was telling you to do. It sounds like you recognized the ever increasing amount of cognitive dissonance and you dealt with it in a proper and mature manner that I personally think many people lack the ability to do, some do not recognize it at all while others go "lalalalala" in an attempt to, successfully or otherwise, ignore it. You also continue to display high emotional intelligence despite what you may or may not give yourself credit for. I may be wrong, but sometimes it feels like you downplay your emotional intelligence, or your gullibleness, or whatever word or term is truly correct, like when you said you could see yourself being manipulated by some of these guys. Honestly I really don't think you would, you display a great ability to analyse, reflect on, explain, recognize and come to almost a factual conclusion for yourself as to why you feel the way you feel, as to the nature of the situations you've been in, and nature as to why another person said or did something, like Stephen here. Like really come to the bottom of why you feel X, or why Y or Z happened. You show the ability to see the cognitive dissonance for what it is and then deal with it I feel. What I think happens sometimes is that in the moment, then and there, it can be easy to get manipulated but later you come to more correct conclusions for yourself, it can be easy to get emotionally high-jacked in the moment. I have those traits as well, thankfully this is not in a way where I could get manipulated and have something bad happen to me like a scam, violence or something else, I don't really know how to explain it than to say that it is on a more surface level and deeper level at the same time emotionally and philosophically. Perhaps you understand what I mean here or perhaps I'm talking nonsense to anyone else but myself. I just woke up and am struggling a little to put those thoughts and feelings into words right now. (yea, that sounds like a good enough excuse, use that, haha :P) I enjoy hearing your thoughts whenever you go on those tangents about how you feel about something, and why you may feel that way, etc. It is very interesting and it also helps me with my own thoughts and grumblings about whatever it may be as well. I have noticed a decrease in those very interesting ramblings and I do miss them. Some of the most memorable moments for me in these videos have been from you talking in-depth about how or why you feel about something or what you think about something and exploring that in-depth, just like you did in this video.

Bodomi

Dave, you continue to blow me away with the amount of emotional intelligence you have. I appreciate you taking the time to expand further on your thoughts, I think you did a great job clarifying what exactly you meant. I also want to say that your ability to empathize with the predators is both impressive and insightful. It’s important when analyzing these men because of course the first reaction of everyone watching is immediate disgust. But looking through that, you’ve helped me see how the predators can get to the point they do. By highlighting some of the qualities and experiences the predators have, you do an excellent job to help us as the audience begin to relate to the emotions these men are feeling. Obviously not the attraction to minors part, but the common things all of us will feel at some point in our lives. An example that has stuck with me is the giddy anxiety of going to meet someone where this is romantic potential. Seeing them through a slightly more relatable lens is helpful when trying to understand how they got to where they are now. I’ve actually been watching your predator commentaries since before you delved into true crime. I love your empathetic approach to sharing these stories and find the predator analysis both enjoyable and therapeutic at times. I love seeing you continue to grow as a creator like this! If you’re open to it, I have some thoughts on how to avoid miscommunications in the future. For me, it all links back to the chat log. Because no child was actually involved, it can take away some of the impact of what these men say, and because we know the decoys are adults it makes it easier to watch. Carrying notes from the chat log over to the video analysis may help serve as a reminder of just how bad the predator was when he could hide behind a screen. I’m sure you already do something similar, but it may be a good refresh every once in a while when you’re stuck listening to the excuses they spew! Overall, thanks for all the hard work and care you put into every video! I’m always excited to see you on my feed :)

Audrey Haywood

Dave, this is so good.. words that were inside my head said back to me, in a much more eloquent way...and in a males voice ;-)

woobles 66

Very funny to be so insecure that you're beefing with a made up 13 year old boy

Jonathan Krone

“Do you wanna skip going out and have sex all night?” Her reply “Bring pizza!” 🤣🤣🤣 He is disgusting! If I started chatting with a guy that said that stuff, I’d block him!

Melissa

So I guess Bailey is the decoy Hansen got confused by with John Dupee

Julien

This guy is messed up

Arkan

Okay but there is a distinction to be made between that kind of predator and one who is motivated by sexual attraction to minors.

sampled tms

Isn't that WHY he is a preferential offender?

Steppe Dweller

❤️ thanks for the shout out. For the record, you did say it right!

Anthony Covarrubias

I wonder if Stephen is actually preferential to minors or if they're the only ones who can make him feel like the larger person in a the relationship. Like no adult women would take him seriously, the way he acts. I wouldn't be surprised if his time in the army contributed to that. Trying to understand, not justify.

sampled tms

Cody Green was very honest, maybe the most honest predator ever. His honesty may well be the cleanest best pleasure

Ben

I appreciate the revisal of your position on this analysis. I wonder if you would consider doing a debrief for other commentaries?

Kevin Wright

So I had more time to think about it. So I have ptsd. And at first I wrote off the possibility. So, since I started having ptsd I've been highly desensitized. I've gotten to the point. Where I struggle to find empathy for people's struggles or experience true grief or disgust. As, my nightmares comeback most nights. The harder and harder it becomes to feel true emotion. I say this to say. If I had predisposition to this would I feel the same empathy as a normal person? Would I be more likely to not see the situation for what it is? Well , for that I had to consider a recent issue, I had. It was a woman at my college who was crying about a test. Now, at first I had very little empathy as I see this issue as nothing to get sad about, not given my life experience. (As my trauma goes all the way back to 6 years old) but after I walked away. While I couldn't empathize i still could feel compassion and walked back and spoke to her about it telling her why it'd be okay. While I may not feel empathy the logical part of my brain is still alive and well, and once I walk away from a situation I still can feel the right thing to do. So, in this situation if he does have ptsd and started talking to her and at first started and had trouble I'd be more inclined to pity him. However, after walking away for a bit like most with ptsd the logic in his brain should've kicked in. He should've realized what damage he was doing. As well, not to be nitpicky but I couldn't cry like he did in his interrogation at my grandma's funeral. Much less over myself. So, if he does have ptsd he has far more emotion than me. The bottom line is. I can't see myself ever doing this because of my ptsd even if I had some weird natural inclination to do this. And everyone with ptsd is different but for the most part this kind of how we are.

Nob Varly


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