Food For Pigs Is Not A Person: The Susan Monica Story [Early Premiere]
Added 2024-09-18 14:46:35 +0000 UTC
Enjoy your early premiere, VIPs!
As I mentioned on the last commentary, it's a very bread n butter type vid, but I actually thought it came out well in the end, and who doesn't like a bit of back to basics sometimes!? Let me know what you think!
Thanks as always for your patience and support :)
Unforbidden Truth Podcast Interview: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/bonus-interview-oregon-double-murderer-susan-monica--51728442
Late to the party, might have been commented on by someone else, but I appreciate how you handled Susan’s trans identity in this. You didn’t talk about it until it was relevant, and you let her tell her own story. In a genre (true crime) where queer people are often treated as exceptionally inhuman for committing the same crimes cis people do, this was really great to see.
Marie
2024-10-25 04:59:28 +0000 UTC
I really need to turn notifications on for Patreon because I saw this on YouTube before I saw it here 😭
Emily Tupper
2024-09-25 23:25:27 +0000 UTC
I have to say, as someone who's familiar with the Robert Pickton case but was unfamiliar with this one I did a little double take with the first mention of a Robert being fed to a pig rather than the other way around.
Sad story all around, obviously the deaths of Steve and Robert are awful, plus it's always a huge downer when someone is pro eugenics.
Excellent video, as always!
Amanda
2024-09-25 10:01:54 +0000 UTC
Good choice of words!
YESwayTED 024
2024-09-24 21:26:25 +0000 UTC
That's intentional - listen to how she says it. It's a little pedantic (or not 100% consistent at least) on my end too, because not every single word is spelled phonetically with how they say it, but just case by case if someone does a clear informal contraction, I'll often spell it like they said it.
Matt Orchard
2024-09-23 02:44:25 +0000 UTC
SUPER pedantic, but "probably" is spelled "probly" at 44:04
The Internet's #1 Herbert Hoover Stan
2024-09-23 00:17:49 +0000 UTC
Agreed. To eradicate sickle cell anemia in many African countries, you'd need to stop a full 30% of the population from reproducing. The obvious alternative is to fund research for treatments for it. There's been a great deal of progress on that front recently and sickle-cell anemia may soon be a curable illness.
Jason
2024-09-21 02:19:47 +0000 UTC
Are we really espousing the benefits of eugenics here...? Really?
The individual choice to reframe from having children because of the possibility of passing on ailments isn't a problem. But any mandated sterilization or euthanasia is bound to become a mess, never mind the inherently racist connotations, invasiveness, and immortality involved.
To begin, sickle cell is an ailment that primarily, if not exclusively, affects the black community. So it's been used as a round-about way of white supremacists to say "let's sterilize black people for the "betterment" of the population." Which, as a black person, yikes.
Second, it would require extensive testing of to look for recessive genes because even healthy people can carry traits that need another carrier to manifest. That would also make doctors, at best, mandatory reporters of a person's medical history to whatever authorities are meant to be overseeing this. At worst, they may be authorized to schedule or perform procedures on patients without consent on threat of imprisonment.
Third, and I can't stress this enough, the one child policy led to a LOT of problems for China that are still being felt to this day. Infant mortality rates and infanticides increased, it was a logistical nightmare, and now they're dealing with the residual effects of a smaller workforce trying to maintain their economic growth.
Eugenics is not a good idea. I thought we hashed this over with the Nazis already...
AstarothLuLz
2024-09-20 17:26:41 +0000 UTC
It's really impressive how you managed to make a psychopath talking about utter nonsense for an hour entertaining. Still not one of my favourite cases by any means, but your sarcasm made me laugh out loud multiple times.
Jan Piet
2024-09-20 16:41:20 +0000 UTC
I love it when cops try to dumb down the crime to the suspect. “Well, you and I know that… well… food for uh, pigs isn’t people!” Feels in the same category as when cops try to tell criminals god is gonna be disappointed when they just murdered several people. So fascinating to see. The hell are they teaching these cops
Luck
2024-09-20 04:23:56 +0000 UTC
Justice for Karen
Vincent
2024-09-20 03:07:32 +0000 UTC
Because the Nazis were all about it and you’d have to genetically test and sterilize healthy people who are recessive gene carriers. Who gets to decide what diseases warrant someone losing bodily autonomy? It looks great on paper, but in practice results in war crimes and civil liberty violations.
gillygull
2024-09-19 23:27:46 +0000 UTC
Also just thinking about this case. I grew up down the road from a family that lived like this. In Susan's case she lived in that environment with other adults who had a choice. The family I lived down from had a daughter who thought it was normal to share her bedroom with a goat. Her bedroom being a half a mattress crammed in a closet.
I don't think I was supposed to be allowed in the house but the daughter let me in once when I was younger. I'm super curious to see what she's like now.
Becca Price
2024-09-19 14:08:15 +0000 UTC
His content is brilliant. A buddy of mine in the UK recommended the Darlie episode and I was absolutely hooked. ^__^
Becca Price
2024-09-19 13:41:21 +0000 UTC
read the room monica jee wizz
Joel Dellavalle
2024-09-19 12:29:13 +0000 UTC
Happy birthday!
YESwayTED 024
2024-09-19 10:24:59 +0000 UTC
Hahaha it snowed in kaiapoi on Tuesday..
James Higgins
2024-09-19 07:40:41 +0000 UTC
Probably not even warm yet, too! I feel for ya, bro.
Matt Orchard
2024-09-19 07:35:32 +0000 UTC
Thanks as always Matt. I hope you're keeping well. Christchurch is as boring as ever lol.
James Higgins
2024-09-19 06:50:25 +0000 UTC
Ohh happy to see new people joining! Matt deserves the most; his content is next level!
James Higgins
2024-09-19 06:49:09 +0000 UTC
A lot in this one was shocking, but chief among them was "I WANT MY NUTS BACK!". Great video, weird case
Virginia
2024-09-19 06:22:51 +0000 UTC
I actually feel a bit sorry for Susan if it's any consolation. Don't get me wrong, she's at minimum guilty of two wrongful killings, probably two outright murders - As in, there was almost certainly no self-defense element with Robert, and her final story with Steve is also highly, highly dubious in light of everything. And she desecrated their bodies. She's where she should be.
It's just that she's a very strange, obviously isolated person and it makes me feel a bit sad. I'm imagining two arguments got out of hand and she has poor control of her emotions. Mental state was probably deteriorating out there over the years.
If I'm wrong and she was running some kind of twisted science experiment on transients then i take that all back obviously. In my current conception of the case though, I think you can have a little sympathy without detracting from her ultimate responsibility at all.
Matt Orchard
2024-09-19 05:44:31 +0000 UTC
i definitely agree there has to be some serious underlying mental illness or delay going on. to begin, no one in their right mind would kill someone, but no one who HAS killed someone would make that first comment she made to police when they were initially searching for Robert. it’s sad because apart of me feels horribly bad for this woman and thinks she deserves help but another part of me is like …… she fed a human to pigs? (still deserving of help but it definitely makes you look at it in a different way). sad case on both ends for sure.
Jess
2024-09-19 05:07:12 +0000 UTC
It is so eerie to hear a local case covered here! You did an A+ job on it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen this much info consolidated in one place!!
gillygull
2024-09-19 04:16:45 +0000 UTC
i’ve heard of this case before but never all that eugenics stuff!! normally i don’t like it when interrogation footage is shown in videos, but you really cut it down to the essentials and give your insight at key moments, and don’t just leave it playing on and on. so glad i joined your patreon last week :))
theoflora
2024-09-19 00:43:37 +0000 UTC
I agree! Eugenics is so underrated. Why don't more scientists talk about this today? It's such a novel idea
Deanna & Kurt
2024-09-19 00:40:17 +0000 UTC
I've never said this out loud but I agree. How the heck do we still have Fatal Familial Insomnia when it kills 50% of the families? That's one that really creeps me out.
Becca Price
2024-09-19 00:10:10 +0000 UTC
Happy Birthday!
Matt Orchard
2024-09-18 23:35:13 +0000 UTC
Great video and all Matt, but I really think people with diseases such as sickle cell anemia should avoid reproducing. In China, they only permit a limited amount of children and I think that’s a good thing.
Deven Weller
2024-09-18 22:44:06 +0000 UTC
I did the same! Signed up a couple hours ago! :D
Becca Price
2024-09-18 22:37:47 +0000 UTC
I don’t mean this pejoratively but she is a textbook case of autism and it’s fascinating watching her be interrogated with that in mind. All the wacky tangents suddenly make sense.
Sean McAllister
2024-09-18 21:35:38 +0000 UTC
I am so happy I signed up today... ^____^!!!!
Becca Price
2024-09-18 21:31:05 +0000 UTC
Thank you for yet another cracker of a video
Bronwyn Boyd
2024-09-18 19:00:00 +0000 UTC
I wonder if after scarfing down on those dudes, Susan was like "That'll do, pig. That'll do."
Kurt Narten
2024-09-18 18:34:50 +0000 UTC
I've seen videos about this one before but I don't think I've ever seen her face before up close, she looks crazy but I can't put my finger on why, just unnerving to look at. also had never heard her eugenics philosophy so kudos for adding that part in
cool_ranch
2024-09-18 18:25:18 +0000 UTC
I gotta tell you, I was not expecting eugenics talk out of the blue
Shane King
2024-09-18 18:24:06 +0000 UTC
Alright, just finished the video, and my God, Susan Monica is... quite the eccentric person, to say the least. I couldn't believe it when told the detectives that she doesn't value human life, that she would like to kill her neighbor AND the FUCKING DETECTIVE and feed them to her pigs, and that she could easily strangle that cop with long hair, all while being INVESTIGATED FOR MURDER. That shit's beyond wild.
And when see tried to sell that Steve shot himself 5 TIMES in the head... it's just, I can't man lol. That reminded me of this one case (I don't remember the name of it) where the suspect tried to tell detectives that the victim stabbed themselves multiple times and died. Just absolutely lunacy.
Great video, Matt! Appreciate what you do! 👍
Joe Shea
2024-09-18 18:09:29 +0000 UTC
Lmao @ PETA trying to use this as some kind of learning opportunity 😭
Jeremiah hader
2024-09-18 17:35:31 +0000 UTC
lol
YESwayTED 024
2024-09-18 17:20:29 +0000 UTC
I am SO mad!!! I don’t have time to watch this before I have to take my mom to the doctor (fingers rapping on table, while contemplating choices….)
TY!
YESwayTED 024
2024-09-18 17:20:00 +0000 UTC
Great timing! Watching with my mom right now, she’s not familiar with this case
Cronker Waltite
2024-09-18 17:16:45 +0000 UTC
Just finished!! I've seen a few videos on the case, but you always find really interesting moments in the interrogation.
Also a nostalgic watch. My mom used to volunteer at that community center when I was a kid. Can't believe they wouldn't take the meat :-(
Lee Basil
2024-09-18 16:13:14 +0000 UTC
God dam my timing impeccable. Bored out of my mind decided decided 2 cave and see if there was any Early access Matt orchard vids and caught it within an hour 🔥Salut
Jeremiah hader
2024-09-18 16:11:46 +0000 UTC
What a great after birthday surprise! Excited to give it a watch Matt!
AndrewAlmond
2024-09-18 15:45:28 +0000 UTC
I know this one alright. I wonder if you kept in... "the accident" in the interrogation room.
Some foreshadowing I see.
Edit: And there it is. What a hellscape that room must've been.
Such an utterly revolting person. From the accident, to the personal hygiene, to the chewing to of course her heinous actions.
corvdb1992 .
2024-09-18 15:44:41 +0000 UTC
Oh I'm SO excited. I grew up near Wimer so I have a soft spot for this horrible horrible story.
Lee Basil
2024-09-18 15:02:45 +0000 UTC
Ahh shit I'm early this time! Let's see what you've cooked up today, Matt! I also don't think I know anything about this case.
Joe Shea
2024-09-18 14:50:44 +0000 UTC