Pill Pod 196 - Ricoeur: Ideology & Utopia (exclusive)
Added 2024-12-21 02:48:16 +0000 UTCIt's a bookworm episode chosen by the people, from the hermeneutics and lit side of ideology critique.
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Ricoeur was not a grad student of Derrida, he was older than derrida and belonged to the generation before him. Derrida in fact studied under him, I believe. Ricoeur was important in translating and interpreting the works of Husserl for French thought
Joe Morrison
2025-04-07 23:10:51 +0000 UTCWhen I teach 1984 to my students I explain how from someone’s perspective, Oceania is, if not a Utopia, a utopian project. Creating a utopia for yourself will inevitably lead to a dystopia for others.
P. Reed
2025-01-06 00:23:04 +0000 UTCCtrl C: copy utopia to clipboard Ctrl V: paste into ideology
Alex B
2025-01-02 00:24:02 +0000 UTCI have some problems to distinguish the concept of ideology from others like foucaultdian power or religious belief. If we use a Christian archetype and divide religion into three: Catholic, Lutheran and Calvinist; religious belief is either follow or be excommunicated, which is the easiest to critique, constantly try to find the right belief, or constantly examine your action to get closer to god, harder to critique. I agree that the ruling class benefits from the ideology, but the people doing ideology cannot be distinguished from the ones doing religion of any of these christian sects. And as you guys say, doing critique and struggle will very well end up in some other type of Christian preaching. If we then take the route of it's just material conditions, duh, then we just have to change our tech to reach communism and there's no point in any of this philosophizing. But then, the problem with Foucault arrives. If tech is developed with a capitalist logic and pushes people to act capitalist, when would a new ideology emerge? Just class struggle? Isn't this religious utopianism?How or why will any new tech by itself be the engine for a new ideology, if we are stuck now in the capitalist machine? Are the clock, printing press and the oceanic ship enough to explain not only the American, French, Haitian revolutions but also the protestant reformation? Then why the fuck read all these people? Shouldn't we just engineer our way out of the problem? Or maybe the machine is inseparable from the human, then human agency -if it has any role here- also has some power, if not to change maybe to wreck the gears of history. Happy winter solstice! ❄️🥶
Mario Mario
2024-12-24 12:16:17 +0000 UTCMerry Christmas!
Recoil
2024-12-23 14:25:57 +0000 UTCIt's always yet.
Khemith
2024-12-23 10:13:22 +0000 UTCAn interesting reading in relation to this, and the discussions on the symbolic the social, and the function of the humanities, would be Lee Edelman’s essay “Occupy Wall Street: Bartleby Against the Humanities”
Eli
2024-12-23 00:14:17 +0000 UTCWhen Eric talks about the genetic metaphor for the symbolic, it reminds me of Lakoff's Metaphors We Live By, in the sense that these literary devices are more than just aesthetic embellishment, but they are the linguistic structure we use to make sense of reality.
Sabataí
2024-12-22 19:21:50 +0000 UTCI have no idea about what none of that means, but it slaps. Hard.
Sabataí
2024-12-22 16:54:56 +0000 UTCThis comment is helpful to me. So I could say ontology is about what currently is but it leaves out what is not yet. ??
Jack
2024-12-22 14:38:15 +0000 UTCPills doesn't know what "ontology" is. Ill take up the challenge. Ontology is what castrates thinking. Ontology is what humiliates truth. Ontology is lying about becoming. I hope that entertained.
Khemith
2024-12-22 12:27:39 +0000 UTC1. The ultra-centrism of ricoeur is present in more of his texts, not just ideology&utopia. Also in oneself as another, his ethics is a friendly synthesis between kantian deontology as morality and aristotle virtues as ethics, working together. The extremes would be choosing between ethics and morality. 2. Why is Diego surprised Ricoeur isn’t using those terms in their lacanian sense? It’s not like Lacan was Ricoeur’s prof or a main influence. This is what philosophers did back then: re-use concepts defined by other thinkers in diferent ways based on their own theories. Thinkers were more brave in this sense of not granting every other thinker ownership over certain concepts, perhaps now we are too un-conflictive.
Guillermo Garrido-Lestache Vidal
2024-12-22 11:05:53 +0000 UTCI love the Canada talk at the beginning finally Canadian news I can trust
Jack
2024-12-21 04:31:12 +0000 UTC
