Pill Pod 195 - Luigi's Mansion
Added 2024-12-16 22:30:12 +0000 UTCThere's big news on the news, and we thought we would take a poke at interpreting this event—if in fact it is one—and giving it an ideological status.
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HOT OFF THE PRESS. Has anything yet been written on “The Ghost Gun” (of Luigi’s)? Well let me be the first! There is TOO MUCH to say…. Luigi Mangione’s alleged political act of murdering a mass murderer is, in effect, also a relation to and a type of writing. The brevity of his ‘manifesto’ is explained by this, that his performative act needs little textual supplementation, since it is itself already an act of writing founded in the historicity of the Printing Press. The 3D PRINTED GUN, the ink that is now the blood…the “doing/writing” of his political intervention in reality… is an act of writing originating from the pen to the type, to the gun, out of the originary technical aspect of writing and printing in which the success of writing as a technique was born…. and thus Luigi’s act is NOT a psychotic act, outside of language/writing. His gun is his pen is an act of writing, perhaps a writing in code rather than ‘ordinary’ language, but a writing nonetheless. Language and writing always participates in a kind of figurative violence (unlike the literal violence of the Health Care Industry, that expresses its unconscious motivation to kill bodies out of its contempt for the unrepresentability of the organism); though it is writing that’s long been seen as killing ‘the thing”, the fantasy of the thing. In the “advance” of technology and the technical, the pen becomes more tangibly a gun. The “ghostliness” of the gun also avails a linguistic dimension: anything in language exists by virtue of all that is repressed in its name, and what is repressed haunts like a ghost what remains in the coming to be of what’s signified. The inextricable link to writing (and speech) that the shooting of the UHC C.E.O. confirms: think only of the deliberate writing on the bullet casings, a writing that literally penetrated the C.E.O.s body, the 3 D’s inscribed that redouble a reference to the very textual production of a ghost gun from a 3D printer: “Deny, Depose, Defend.” It is an ironical act that also demands to be read and interpreted—publicly discussed in lieu of the discussion and action that should have taken place: a Medicare public option!
Zachary Manenti
2025-02-05 22:34:51 +0000 UTCNews media is very focused on violence, and as the prime mouthpiece for politics, the three (news/violence/politics) merge into one, a violence ethic intended to crudely direct the masses. There is no real belief in greenwashing virtue washing, gambling "responsibly", etc. but Luigi (& Hamas) revealed the big wash: the modern values sacred enough to wash atrocity.
Alex B
2025-01-02 00:23:14 +0000 UTCPeople's frustration and anger in the system which is felt like conplete helplessness after years of fruitless temptations to change something by voting or becoming active in a union etc. very often finds its releave in tiny damaging actions against institutions or an employer. So it is known that people steal tiny stuff like postits from offices or like Jimmy in the series "Better call Saul" who kicks the metal bin damage objects like pupils at school. It serves them only at an individual level, for sure, to create a tinytiny compensation for the felt injustice. It's a feeling, psychological pleasure of transgression which in fact apparently can lead to a greater negative effect if practised by many. In the same way the frustration with the disillusionment of the "free choice" regarding the political parties leads to protest votes for the far right. Stolen post-its and pens might be ignored, but Europe has a problem if democracy and its representatives become a farce.
Ale
2024-12-25 09:54:28 +0000 UTCI have to disagree with you guys on here. This episode feels cynical. This is the story of a guy who has experienced in the flesh the failure of the corrupt corporate health system in the country. He is someone who has the courage of taking action, even if that's outside the confines of what we consider "moral" or whatever made sense within his worldview. He is not pretending to be Che Guevara. It's like in "intellectual" environments we need to have a flawless theoretical framework and debate hundreds of people instead of taking any action while millions of people keep dying every day. Some people don't have that luxury and some people didn't have the opportunity of learning the entire history of western leftists thinkers.
Walter Ramirez
2024-12-20 23:06:32 +0000 UTCDiego was close at 57:00 with the One Piece reference, but instead of the pirate posters the correct analogy would be the Cross Guids posting of Navy officer wanted posters and offering rewards for death or capture. I've already seen those memes getting circulated, i.e. the wishing for the Cross Guild and their inverted ideology wanted posters to exist IRL Pills nails the "CEO Protection Act" around 36:30 onward. If the number of CEO killings were the same as school shootings, gun laws would change or the national guard or corporate death squads would be deployed lol
ageOfBumFires
2024-12-20 15:40:45 +0000 UTChe didn't expect to be caught immediately. he expected to be shot.
inga miller
2024-12-18 16:39:30 +0000 UTCPoint- 72 hours after the shooting all the attention on United Health sank its stock to the lowest point since June. Many other stocks fell along with it- as though by putting a spotlight on the reality of late stage capitalism , the territory suddenly looked like the map it is, the carriage of stock values turned back into a pumpkin …
James Aydelotte
2024-12-18 16:37:48 +0000 UTCYeah it’s odd that they’re trying to pass it as senseless and inexchangable when literally everybody understood the motive.
Alex Petty
2024-12-18 00:25:30 +0000 UTCThe problem is that the FLN was not a purely spontaneous or grassroots movement against French Algeria. It may have been able to find recruits among the many who were disaffected (Fanon’s “revolutionary” colonial lumpenproletariat) but it depended on a strategy that very much took the structural realities of colonial economics and politics into account. Their violence was used to drive up the costs of occupation, to sow divisions between Metropolitan France and its Pied Noire settlers, and to bring the injustices of French imperialism to light through international legal venues and mass media. All this speaks to the fact that the FLN did not win purely through terrorism or military action. Indeed, France was pretty effective at repressing the internal military arm of the FLN. Rather, Algeria won independence through their capacity to exploit emerging UN institutions and international press. They won a political victory by exploiting the structural limits of the French Empire and 4th Republic. Though popular support and individual acts of terrorism played a role, they needed to be part of a larger organized strategy that aim to destabilize France and its empire (a structural analysis of the material conditions of colonial society, French politics and the French economy.) This actually strengthens the point made by the podcasters.
Isaac Suárez
2024-12-17 23:49:44 +0000 UTCGood episode! I totally agree with Diego’s take- what’s striking is not the aberrance or radicalism of Luigi Mangione. Rather, it is his banality- he was a rich kid working in a good job who ideologically identified with the very system that denied him healthcare coverage. There is no great secret or insight that we discover from the man’s psyche- there’s less than nothing when you consider what he has to say about the healthcare system. There is no “there” there in Luigi. The depressing objective core of the entire murder and narrative is the evil nature of “market forces”- particularly when those forces are used to profit from human suffering.
Isaac Suárez
2024-12-17 23:43:24 +0000 UTCYou guys keep making the mistake of expecting every radical spontaneous act to be a one-shot final solution to the capitalist system… Fanon speaks on spontaneous violence (not from the FLN, but from random Algerian citizens) and how it was effective in ultimately helping the Algerians get their country back. It is shallow and lazy to say there wasn’t any worth in Luigi’s actions.
luci
2024-12-17 18:22:00 +0000 UTCWhat if 40 million people stop going to work and start throwing paper planes at CEOs and CEnots, everyday? A material based solution with enough specularity. also as polemic Diego might find it, to itch is human. But he beats me there too, when he articulates so well his 'about humanism' verses. ¿sentimental? Don't you see those bezos and gates with all that will to power? They thrive on reaction(resistance/hate). Such binary distinction can only bring half a solution. Now taking it back to Althusser; if you are playing the number game, you need people on your side. The same people who wouldn't want you, cuz they figured it out. Sound familiar? The other is a mess, my brother. What's not a thought, then the next- then a learnable pattern (Ideology)? What in that sense is not polemic? This podcast? How is our material reality not tied to our language, reason, and reason to have a language? Where's the fun in being 'right' and K'ant all the time? This is essence of material speaking.
Mrityunjay Awasthy
2024-12-17 18:10:37 +0000 UTCThere's so much to mine here, "ideologically" because he's kind of the typical American in that he possesses no ideological consistency. He respects the Feds for protecting the systems at which he is angry. What kind of ideology is that? It's American ideology, but I'm not sure what it means beyond being very effective at allowing Americans to live with various forms of cognitive dissonance. I know you say that Ideology can't really be described, but that's also part of its efficacy. A bunch of Americans not very different than Luigi don't know what they're mad at. They just know they're mad. Is it the CEOs? The migrants? Fetanyl? Who knows. Watching "leftist" social media process this has been quite entertaining, at least. A bunch of people utterly incapable of violent actions insisting that violence is the only way forward, as if this killing will do anything other than make the ruling classes Crack down even harder, like they did with that lady who said "deny, delay, depose" over the telephone.
Joe Green
2024-12-17 14:59:43 +0000 UTCA mother of 3 kids was just arrested on Florida for telling a call insurance centre worker ‘deny, delay, dispose. You’re next!’ Would this count as an overreaction by the system?
Andy Madeley
2024-12-17 13:46:23 +0000 UTCthe notable fact is that mcdonalds definitely has facial recognition technology which reports directly to the police, because there is no shot some random person recognized him.
N0THANKY0U
2024-12-17 07:05:08 +0000 UTCGiuseppe Zangara, part two. A simplistic manifesto that reads like a suicide note, chronic pain, and capitalism.
tomatogoblins
2024-12-17 04:30:32 +0000 UTCI know you do not control the ads personally, but sharing this story for I find it funny. “The room where it happens” is interrupting the pod if I use the ad version not the patreon one. They are advertising Hamilton, the Musical, is coming to my zip code. ̴T̴A̴L̴K̴ ̴ ̴ Sing and Rap about Ideology. “I am not going to waste my shot” the song aura is running through my head right when Diego mentions voting with his gun.
Matthew Theisen
2024-12-17 03:13:58 +0000 UTCI think Diego and Victor analysis is itself pretty ideological. Just like they talk about a "liberal metaphysic" they seem to be absorbed in this "left strategic" ideology. They cannot frame this a simple event of lash out violence but seem to have the need to evaluate its uselfulness in some sort of grand reformist or revolutionary agenda. That is the mythos that the left wanted to portray this as: a revolutionary killing; when it was a just a random turbo normie guy with privilege that wanted to make a point. He didn't want to make a revolution or change the system. He didn't want to send a message or organize a movement. But ironically, the clash that Pills mentions in terms of the news narrative that just doesn't resonate at all with the people; has a potential to shift the mythos of the CEO as this morally powerful figure of good. The key ideological element of this event is that fracture between the ideological narrative and the reaction (or lack of) of people to that effort of enframing the event as a tragedy. In that sense is not an event that "woke" people up, just an event that people can empathize almost unanimously due to the material reality of Americans. It doesn't need to be useful, it doesn't need to be rational, it doesn't need to be morally acceptable. The true impact os that it is relatable in all of its banality. And that changes the narrative of the systems, whether the system continues to work around it and adapt or not.
Federico Ivan Compean Revuelta
2024-12-17 01:23:54 +0000 UTCOkay but I'm pretty sure he was an incel did you not see the tweets where he said he was jealous that his brother was dating his crush, some chick named Peach. I also heard he was high on shrooms when he did this. And that's not mentioning he just lost his plumbing job.
Ashley H
2024-12-17 00:25:35 +0000 UTCThere was a job creator 😂
Matt S
2024-12-17 00:17:35 +0000 UTCExcellent episode really enjoyed Mario and Luigi defeating Bowser
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