Police Interrogations pt. 9 *Viewer Discretion Advised*

Seriously? What should have the cop done, not mention any of the inconsistencies, not allow her all the time she needed for her responses, just blindly believe everything she said and arrest the suspect? It is so infuriating how people like you get upset when a cop does his/ her job.

H N

this is not right. she clearly mentioned pushing him off, saying she didnt want him before hand... even if he was intoxicated, she was still raped. this comes off as ridiculously biased towards the rapist and overly skeptical to a girl who was so clearly treated awfully from her reaction. I understand being skeptical but this comment borders on blaming her for the assault and being a rapist apologist. do better

Jesus, I thought Ryan being shot in the face twice and then thrown in a police car for 6 hours, then interrogated before being noticed as a victim was infuriating, but this first case blew that one out of the water. Bloody hell...

I have such conflicting feelings about the rape. It doesn't sound like the guy thought it was rape at all. From her own words and also knowing how Intoxicated he was. It's just hard for me to fathom how she didn't tell him to stop. As a woman myself I can't imagine just lying there and accepting it. I'm glad the guy didn't go on the sex registry. That wouldn't have been right. But the girl definitely seemed very honest, and I'm sorry she felt abused.

That last clip RUINED me …. As a rape survivor who had the same “freeze” response in which she experienced, this was disturbing and I’m glad in a way I wasn’t subjected to this type of person right after such a horrible encounter. Fight flight or freeze is a very real response and you don’t get to CHOOSE which one is made available to you…., I had blamed myself for so long for not trying to fight back or not saying “no” even though I said it loud and clear with my unresponsiveness and body language. People are fucking disgusting, I couldn’t watch that last clip the whole way through

part two: How is this girl still such a good person after all she's been through? no ill-will towards the offender, actually just wanting him to have a better, healthier life... She's amazing

Tori

Dude the detective at 47:33 is actually such a piece of shit. "and what does telling someone get you?" uhhh some fucking weight off of a rape victims chest at the very least?!?! what the fuck.

Top of my post was erased - but FRIES is pillars of consent If Jim Can't Swim without floaties, and is asked if he wants to go swim in the open ocean sans floaties by all his friends, then he may say yes - but it will a be hesitant and scared yes. Give Jim floaties and ask him to swim in pool - then it's a much more confident and assured yes.

Nephthys

• Freely given •Revocable (I did say yes, but now there are sharks & I change my mind •Informed •Enthusiastic •Specific

Nephthys

If your partner is not giving an ENTHUSIASTIC YES before and during sex, you are raping them. If you cannot tell if your partner is enjoying having sex with you, you should not be having sex with them. Period.

Kelsey Barton

She was straight up lying, absolutely disgusting

nothx

Wow that interviewer is way worse then I originally thought. Disgusted.

@SUZU paid, watched, dropped an ignorant ½ argument and left the forum. So I won't reply.

Nephthys

Sure the questioning is intense and antagonistic, but this is only because there is ONLY her claim. I wouldn't count an accusation as a piece of evidence, so there isn't just 1 piece of evidence, there is no evidence. If she bore any signs of a struggle that would be evidence and not merit such close scrutiny.

That last clip. My god. That poor girl….

I would've given that bald prosecutor a round of applause.

james

that Johnchuck dude has the scariest mouth I've ever seen.

this officer taking the sexual assauit victims statement is what every woman fears.

LucyFrenchfry

Same here

I hope that last girl is doing well today. I want to give her a hug and tell her I believe her.

After watching i fully agree. I don’t even understand why he asked the questions that he asked, even if it was a false allegation how would those questions have helped the accused? Hope the asshole is not still practicing

That poor girl in the last video, I couldn’t even finish the clip because of how unfeeling the detective was. I don’t know what he thought he was doing but the result was horrible and hard to watch.

Seriously, fuck that guy. Berating a young girl who was raped. Unblur his face so we can help ruin his life. He deserves it. God I hate him.

The officer interviewing the sexual assault victim was absolutely horrible. That infuriated me to no end. And people wonder why women don't always report sexual assault...

You understood that wrong. She said she WASN'T on birth control, and that's why he put on a condom

The final clip should almost be a public video of it's own. I went through here in Europe to report my abuser and experienced thankfully not a very similar situation, but I also left out the part where he SA'd me on many occasions. Nobody understands how rough it is doing that, especially when the police question you - revictimization is a real thing.

This approach is awful. It treats a victim as a suspect and it's the only crime where this is the case. In what other case do we demand that a victim answer these types of questions? The police treat these victims with such disregard solely to "make sure" someone's not being wrongfully accused, and yet, look at death row.

This right here

And this is why young kids are taught about consent apps

I agree and disagree. Of course - no means no. But from this video it sounds like she said no to kissing at an earlier stage and he stopped. Later (not sure how much later) sex was initiated by him, at which point she gave no clear verbal indication at all she was not consenting. I'm not saying she is in the wrong at all, but it's obviously not as clear cut as you're making it sound. There are brutal, physical rapes, and there are coerced not so obvious rapes, but I'm not sure this is either of those. Purely based on what she's saying it does seem reasonable that simultaneously she thinks she has said enough for him to stop, but in his head he thinks she is consenting, and neither party is inherently aware of what the other is thinking.

I don't understand how a person can be guilty of rape when from the "victim's" perspective, the person who raped them thought it was consensual due to lines like "I'm on birth control you don't need to use a condom" paired with next to zero resistance and similar situations where the woman said "no" leading to him backing off and not raping her friend. I believe if he hadn't lost all memory of the situation he would have likely been able to put on a better defense and avoid charges.

It's pretty simple: all it takes is her saying "no" one time. Just because it wasn't emphatic enough, or exactly at the right moment for some of ya'll, doesn't mean he had her consent.

As the victim of a false accusation/conviction, I sorely wish someone would've confronted my accuser in this manner. I saw the police interrogation, and she was believed with no challenge. Then the 'victims advocate' came in and helped this woman demonize me. There was no justice served.

So let me get this straight. Because according to the 5% statistic you gave we should just believe every woman without question? Those men who fall under the 5% category just dont matter? What about all the woman who over exaggerated? Whats the statistics on that? Women who got drunk and regretted it? Maybe didnt remember every detail so claimed they were assaulted. That also happens and its not rare. First, i am positive i could also search for these statisitcs and find other ones that says its more than 5%. Second, i dont care if its .1% because no innocent person should ever be sent to prison. Especially if the charge is rape! Even people in prison do not care for those people. So yes, i am sure it is hard and it sucks to have to answer questions after going through something like that. But it is still 100% necessary to make sure that the allegations are true. As long as they are honest, their story/ timeline add up, and there are not holes in it and its not leaving people scratching their heads then cops wont sit and interrogate you the way they did the girl in that video.

False rape accussion is generally considered to be about 5% of all accusation.

Joanna Lind

That last clip is exactly why a lot of rape victims don't come forward, especially with how few actually make it to court/hearing.

Joanna Lind

If you watch the last video of the interrogation of the rape victim and think that is what should be done then you are lacking critical thinking skills and empathy. Interrogator pretending that he doesn't understand and that she is contradicting herself when she is not, made me sick. As far as rape statistics go, false accusations are very uncommon, it is more likely that it will go unreported than lied about. He said that it is very difficult to have sex unless a women is willing, implications piss me off a lot. This officer should be in jail. Thanks to these cops the guy gets to rape again.

Detectives have every right to question any person who throws out rape allegations. It is not uncommon at all for these allegations to be false or over exaggerated. Even when it comes out that the allegations were complete bullcrap, it still ruins the life of the person accused. That stigma does not just go away suddenly and there will always be people who think they actually did something. So yes, when youre speaking about completely ruining a person life, there better damn well be an investigation to make sure things add up. Now if the person is truthful, they can prove without any doubt whatsoever that the assault/ rape did happen. Then it should be an automatic death penalty for the person accused.

I felt so bad for the girl in the last one. Over and over saying that no one ever believes her and wants the interrogation to stop. ‘It’s getting me nowhere’ made me so sad and angry as well, wanted to smack the guy just barraging on and on about the discrepancies which proves her right that in fact they do not believe her. So I totally believe that this approach causes more harm than it does any good and can’t frankly believe it’s widely used still. Also, who can imagine themselves going about it like this with a girl that was just raped? Make her feel like shit even more and than go about your day again? I don’t

Yeah for real. We should all be experts by now

Yeah, some of the comments are pretty bad and with how they word their sentences you can tell they dont have anything worth saying. I dont think its smart either way to blindly be one the females side, or blindly be in the cops or males side either. People are acting like kids here one side or the other. I would expect better from people paying for this type of content.

Jim needs to block some of the dudes in these comments

Wow, FUCK the cop in that last clip. Holy shit... And the losers in these comments who are blaming the victim and berating her for her reaction to the assault are the same people who can never understand why women don't report sexual assaults (or simply claim that doesn't happen so they can deflate the statistics and pretend the rate of abuse isn't higher than what's reported). Well here's why. Because they have to put up with shit like this if they do.

To assume right or wrong, true or false over gender alone is a terrible mindset, man or women. Judge based of character and the actions that happened and were taken. Base of the facts of the situation.

Most of you are acting like children. When there is NO PROOF, how are you going to fully believe someone and what they are accusing someone else of, especially on this level were it can ruin their life, which again, no proof to the accusation. But it is also stupid to totally right this off as nothing, it should be looked into, NOT disregarded. And for people saying that "all these jcs videos prove that there is a big chunk of men who hate women", you fail to realize that these videos represent such a small group of people in the world that can do such horrible things. And there are multiple other videos on jcs channel and patreon and its a women as the main subject of the video, stop making it a man women thing, and just it be a insane terrible person. grow up people.

Except in no other instance do we interrogate VICTIMS this way. You get it? This is how we interrogate PERPETRATORS in every other crime. Only with rape do we do this to victims.

And you're really exposing yourself as someone who thinks women have no autonomy. Stay vigilant out there, Mary!

These comments are so horrible when talking about the victim in the last clip. Yall really are exposing yourselves as someone with an assaulters mentality. That young lady is a victim of sexual assault and harassment, and yall are okay with that. Disgusting.

It's not what he did that's only bothering me... Like, he's name too wth, John John chuck Jr....oh long johnson

I know holy shit

jesus listening to that last hoe made me wanna to jam forks into my eyes

papa johnchuck

jareed

victim blaming is not cool. she clearly stated that she pushed him off and DID say no, just didn't become forceful about it because she was scared. you have no concept of what it was like for her, or any other victim of sexual assault. he should have been responsible enough to notice how she wasn't engaging in the encounter, simply taking it, and immediately stopped and questioned whether or not she was okay. the "obligation" to make things clear does not only belong to the victim; it also belongs to the perpetrator to make it 100% clear that she DOES want it to happen. her saying no and attempting to push him off, no matter how forceful, was more than enough to create doubt in his mind and he should have fulfilled his obligation to confirm undeniable consent. posting comments like this perpetuates rape culture and i seriously hope you reevaluate and educate your views and consider how harmful it can be to spread incorrect thought processes like this one.

I severely worry for the defense attorneys mental health and general opinion after defending such terrible people

Jraven

I'm sorry but if you're having sex with someone and you are not wanting it you need to very BLUNTLY and CLEARLY say "No.". You can't say 'well I don't remember if I said no exactly, I did while we were kissing but'. People in sexual acts say no all the time in a sort of like, "No, we can't.", or "No, we shouldn't." type way. This is a man's livelihood and freedom on the line. You need to be 100% absolutely sure. If you consider it from another angle, say for some reason you freeze up, or for some mental health reason become selectively mute while doing the act can you really blame the person you're having sex with if you've never even said no or showed any outward physical retaliation of his acts. Do you walk into every sexual encounter stating a declaration of consent. So mind baffling to be honest. I'm sorry what happened to this girl and I'm sorry she felt that way, but it is her obligation to make it clear she does not want the sexual activity to occur.

I remember when the first case happened. It was in my county and you could feel the heaviness on the bridge after that.

Well I am glad to hear the ending that they are changing that. Whether she was telling the truth completely or not, that was difficult to watch. Assuming she was being honest, my god.

Damn Sam! How about a less aggressive and deeper consideration of all the sociologic components that create these and other issues? You seem convinced about your stance regarding this topic but I doubt you have a universal, real and applicable solution. would you consider other views or are you set in your ways?

Did she resist? no. Did she make it clear she didn't want to? doesn't look like it. You all want sexual freedom and you want equality between the sexes. What would happened if the roles were reversed? They would have laughed him out of the police station. Double speak, two faced, politically correct, virtue signaling, corrupt society.

I couldn't keep watching that last one, absolutely infuriating

Nihilore

Yikes, man. I definitely think both parties in a sexual assault case should be questioned at length, but that officer was being a dick toward the end.

Parker Holmes

Well said. When he asked her why she was afraid to fight back it was clear that he can't even comprehend the FREEZE mode that some of us revert to.

Amanda Boo Berry

oh okay, so we should make the alleged rapist become fearful and suffer trauma instead of the woman. who cares if (s)he is innocent, the woman making the allegation should not bear the burden of proof! Its not like this will incentivize more false accusations, huh? i mean, you could falsely accuse someone and they will be subjected to a brutal interrogation for no reason, which false accuser would be motivated to falsely accuse under your idea?

H N

I am very concerned for, and care deeply about people being falsely imprisoned for any reason, especially when it comes to rape, since it can also make you look like monster. With that said, I also care very deeply for victims of rape. These are not mutually exclusive opinions. Regardless of whether or not it is actually necessary, it’s still extremely hard to watch someone be subjected to this kind of interrogation when trying to discuss their rape, and at the very least, you should wish it didn’t have to be this way. Yes, it is a fact that these kind of interrogations cut down on people being falsely accused of rape, but is it also a fact that there are other very effective means of trying to figure out if someone is lying. (such as interrogating the rapist) Maybe you still think it’s necessary to use these kind of interrogation tactics in these situations, and I’m not here to say you’re an absolutely terrible person for having a different opinion, but if people just empathizing with a rape victims makes you triggered, or if you’re trying to suggest that situations that are clearly rape are not rape, most people would agree you are a pretty shitty person. Also, it’s your fault that your mom doesn’t love you.

Z The Cat

Wow. I can't believe that is how the interview was "supposed" to be conducted. That poor girl, in those few hours, developed a massive amount of distrust towards law enforcement. She even said that if something like this ever happened to her again, she wouldn't go to the authorities. Is that really the approach that needs to be taken? I hope the new methods of interviewing victims changes drastically...

john johnchuck looks like his name

Wow... This was extremely sad... I'm lucky that I've never experienced such a thing in my life... But knowing myself and how I handle stress, I would have been in the same boat as that last girl... Memory is the darndest thing. I have a long processing time so, yes, a day would have given me more time to think of everything that happened. And I don't have fight or flight. I have freeze. This poor girl must have it too. Being scared and not knowing what to do made her freeze up and not say anything. I understand that wholly. In fact, I hate that about myself because, I know if I were in some terrible situation, I would probably freeze up and die. This girl is probably hating herself because she couldn't control her situation. I GET THAT. For those that don't understand, it's hard to explain. I have plenty of family and loved ones that get on my case for being slow and not reacting the way they think I should. And when they bombard me with all that, I get even more frozen and just can't respond. There's no other way to put it. Your brain goes into shock and overload and you just... FREEZE. I'm so proud of her for going and telling someone afterwards. So many victims fall into shock and shame and keep it to themselves for their entire lives! This girl just needed time to friggin process what happened to her and was smart in knowing she needed help. I think this one hurt more because I am the same way and it's scary to think I could fall into a similar situation if I'm not careful. As she said, she regrets getting off the bus to go see this guy. That's going to torment her for the rest of her life... I just wanted to make sure I said something on here because some people just don't understand how that girl and I think and react. She's right. People just don't get it, and maybe they never will.

SpyroShurtagul

agreed. ive been through psychosis and when the guy said "he didnt jump" i was like, so what?? he didnt massacre an entire school either, or drive a car through the mall. doesnt mean shit. most psychosis experiences are different, but, with similarities too. [i can say this because i have friends who have been through psychosis also]

The uninformed commentary in this thread about the last video of a sexual assault victim being interrogated by a member of the RCMP does not surprise me, sadly. However, thank you to the recent posters who warned about the exceedingly ignorant and misogynistic comments that feed into rape myths and victim blaming. I would like to also highlight that the victim is an Indigenous woman and the police officer is a white man. Victimization of Indigenous women in Canada is disproportionately high and steeped in the country's racist, colonial history. Mistreatment by (mostly white) police agencies, including the RCMP, is also rampant. Additionally, this is taking place in the Kelowna RCMP detachment, which has gained notoriety for not taking sexual assault victims seriously and having deeply problematic investigation techniques. That detachment's rate of dismissing sexual assault complaints as "unfounded" (a coded term meaning the investigating officer did not believe the complainant) is almost THREE times higher than the national (Canadian) average. Thank goodness Members of Parliament from all parties immediately recognized the reprehensible conduct on the part of the RCMP officer: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/mps-condemn-disgusting-rcmp-interrogation-of-youth-reporting-sex-assault-1.4423366. While the RCMP has since admitted that the Kelowna detachment's stats and techniques require investigation and updating, it remains to be seen whether meaningful change will occur.

Okay so that first case really made me angry. The prosecutor's closing argument was absolute bullshit. I HAVE been though psychosis. I had auditory hallucinations and visual hallucinations that I really believed were real. I remember grabbing my brothers MacBook and threatening to smash it because I thought he was home, the voices told me he was home and I couldn't see him. Had my dad not helped me and got me to the hospital, who knows what could of happened. I had a friend go through psychosis and he held his wife, mother and child hostage with a gun. Psychosis is no joke and going through it is the scariest thing in the world. When I got to the hospital I had a moment of clarity and committed myself. I can only imagine how that man felt when he realized what he did. When you're in that state of mind anything can trigger you do do something harmful to yourself or others. Just because he didn't jump, doesn't mean he wasn't in psychosis. These people need HELP, not prison time. **I have not watched him get sentenced yet. I just had to comment on the absurdity of the prosecutor's closing statement.

This episode deals with sexual abuse of children and murder of children. But the main reason for the viewer discretion is not believing and victim blaming of an adult sexual abuse survivor by the police. There are no graphic images. This episode is hard to watch so be careful.

Just to be that person real fast: Can someone (without much spoilers) explain why there is viewer discretion advised on this video? I know to be cautious about the war related videos because of actual footage and such, but was wondering what would be seen in this one. Thanks!

SpyroShurtagul

Seems like you might be one. You seem more outraged by popular culture and social terminology than the reality and insanity of the last segment of the video above. I pray you find help on this matter.

TreeVeins_ForrestEyes

Where are the "rape apologists" I hear so much about? I hear a bunch of people moaning about them but don't see anyone making a comment that fits that sort of description... I think maybe a more fitting appraisal is the thread is filled with people who can't tolerate any nuance of thinking. I hate when people throw these sorts of amorphous labels and buzzwords around and believe they are stating something worthwhile.

Thank you.

I'm a new patron. Where are pts. 1-8? :(

MrVacuumBrainBimbo

I read them anyway, I shouldn't have. That poor girl.

What rape victim? The woman who had sex, regretted it, and then accused someone of rape to lessen her culpability for her decision? She wasn’t raped. She decided afterwards that she didn’t REALLY want to have sex, probably due to trauma in her past. She almost ruined someone else’s life because she changed her mind after the fact.

Babylonian Cowboy

The cop should have jumped after her, but he's a pu**y, you can tell by just looking at him.

Respectfully, this is rape apologist talk. Enthusiastic consent can encompass nonverbal consent; however, 'not saying no' isn't consent. That's the main issue here.

PSA The comments here are just horrible. Dont read them.

Watching that rape victim be cross examined was painful. I understand why so many victims don’t come forward. There has to be a better way...

Brianna Waldorf

If the rate of false accusations was anywhere near the rate of sexual assaults then we would be. But the amount of sexual assaults that happen greatly surpasses the amount of false accusations and it’s a problem. I bet you know at least one woman, if not a few, that have been sexually assaulted and probably 0 men that have been falsely accused. The difference is you’ll probably never know about the women who were and it’s because of the attitude of people like you. That’s why it’s under reported.

And then tells you at the end why that’s not a good tactic and why they’re trying to change that. But you just missed that part didn’t you?

nailed it

Are you saying that there are no women lying about rape and sexual assault? There are plenty of cases where people have been accused of rape and had their lives ruined, and then the accuser admitted to lying.

The cop should have put a bullet in the brain of that dude as soon as he dropped the kid..

PSA: The comments in this thread are filled with rape apologists and generic assholes alike. If you've been a victim of sexual assault, reading ahead will be disappointing and upsetting.

"Blame women" No, I don't think I will. I'll continue to blame rapists, thanks.

Is women that falsely accused men that make this woman go thru this. Unfortunately women are notorious about lying sexual assaults and falsely accusing men. Don't blame this cop or this particular women for what she went thru, blame lying conniving women who use lie as weapon to get even with sexual partner with no consequences other than karma catching up with them .

I wish women were as passionate about defending men who were falsely accused as they were about making excuses for making sure that the full truth gets out. Talk about femcels, jesus christ.

PSA: The comments in this thread are filled with rape apologists and generic assholes alike. If you've been a victim of sexual assault, reading ahead will be disappointing and upsetting.

Unfortunately, this "enthusiastic consent" concept is not one size fits all. People consent to different activities in different ways. Some of these comments sound one step away from having a mandatory pre-coital contract. Women underestimate their ability to trash a man's character and possibly life/ career through one false sexual assault claim. While I absolutely am disgusted that someone who was just sexually assaulted has to go through a tough interrogation, it is the only way to make certain that the claim is based in truth rather than vengeful regret.

Great work Jim. 👍

Yes, we should just immediately jail all men who get accused of rape. Nice.

The only reason you have a problem with this is because you have the hindsight of knowing the girl is telling the truth. If you had the hindsight to now the girl was a bullshitting, you would give to two damns how the cop is interviewing her. The cop is interviewing her as a suspect to a potential crime; the possible crime of a making a false police report. The only people to blame are bullshit victims who ruin it for actual victims

So many people butthurt over the last one. Jim LITERALLY tells you the cops go hard on purpose during the second interview to weed out the bullshiters.

Jfc, is it any wonder that rape victims are reluctant to come forward? What a horrible fucken cop in the last one. Patronising, unempathetic shit-bag. He shouldn't be anywhere near girls reporting SA's. SMH.

Laura Elizabeth

People act like rape is a grey area, it's not bloody hard to tell if someone does not want to have sex, whether they say yes or no. If you enjoy sex whilst someone else is even just apathetic towards it there's something wrong with you.

Jason Longo

That poor girl at the end. She seemed completely honest, and she even cared about the guy having a baby. Hope she's okay. That interview was painful just to watch.

Jason Longo

I think explaining victims of sexual assault the reasoning behind the aggressive nature of questioning to a victim might prove to be helpful

There's a reason why most people aren't detectives.

No. She did not say 'No' at any point. Watch the video again. Her friend said 'No' while they were kissing, and he stopped. The way she said 'No.' was by pushing him off at some point, after which he stopped. Please watch the video before commenting, what the fuck lmao

The last one is hard to watch. I was honestly surprised how tough she was being and how well composed she was. While I understand the officer basically cross-examining a victim to ensure they have a solid case for sexual assault, it's really hard to listen to a girl who was assaulted say she felt like no one believed her AGAIN, as she was a victim in the past. She said NO to the dude when they were kissing, if she doesn't want to KISS you, damn sure she doesn't want to HAVE SEX with you. Should have stopped the moment she said no, that's rape there's no other way to put it! He deserves no mercy, idc if he has a baby on the way or not.

yeah, i stopped reading comments under every post here bc there is a lot of undercover incels....

siyeonrose

As a woman, the comments under this post hurt me so much. I somehow thought that the community over here is more sensitive to this subject, because it is a big part of crime. But I guess y'all just like a few horror stories as long as it doesnt challenge your worlview. I have seen more understanding comments and compassion for men who murdered, than for this girl. Truly disgusting comments under this one.

it's actually not that hatd to tell if a woman is enojoying sex or not. enthusiastic consent is the keyword. please shut the f* up. And every person should be in the right place to check up on their partner even during sex. If you can't tell, because you or your partner are under the influence, you shouldn't have sex in the first place. Or just fucking ask. "Are you Okay?" "Do you want me to keep going?" ect ect. Y'all are acting like thats fucking witchcraft and you're expected to reads minds, when ITS NOT. IF YOURE NOT SURE YOURE PARTNER ENJOYS ITS; ASK!

Because actual murderers are forcibly taken into the room and then interrogated for verbal evidence gathering and building the case, which would be impossible to do if they were to invoke their right to an attorney? Do you even get the difference between coming to the police yourself to make someone a main suspect and actually being that main suspect?

This rape thing is bullshit. If you're a man who's ever been with a woman, you understand the impulsiveness of the moment and just how severely impacted critical thinking can be in that situation, especially under the influence of any substance that alters brain functioning. Of course, you can argue that most men will be smart/experienced enough to realize when they're not actually being wanted, but definitely not all of them are, and just because they lack the empyrical/intellectual means necessary to become aware of the female's unwillingness (in spite of her never having voiced or openly shown it), it does not constitute rape. This woman, in spite of her evidently physically and mentally traumatic experience, is not a rape victim. She is a victim of her own poor choices and indecisiveness. One of the many reasons why adult individuals are deemed sexually independent (usually at the age of 16, but let's settle on 18) is because their brain is at that stage developed enough to adequately process the entire event that would occur during a mutually consented sexual encounter. Her being an adult who can legally consent to sexual acts being performed by and upon her, in the eyes of any regular citizen, any psychologist, and any government official, implies her bearing the mature responsibility of retracting this consent at any given time if she for whatever reason may so wish. It is then the responsibility of the other sexually mature individual to respect her decision and immediately cease. Failure to do so would constitute a violation of her right to withdrawing sexual consent, and thus that would be called rape. However, adults partaking in sexual encounters are not mandated by law to at all times be vigilant about the potential non-physical and non-verbal withdrawal of consent by the other party. So, her friend said 'No.' (verbal withdrawal of consent) - he respected that and stopped. She pushed him off (physical withdrawal of consent) - he respected that and stopped. The fact that one can be legally pursued for failing to read the mind of someone they've just met while being in an inebriated and aroused state (thus with severely impaired critical thinking and observational abilities) is beyond ludicrous.

I find it deeply disturbing how many comments here are defending the cop in the last segment as he aggressively interrogates a rape survivor. Considering that we know she is honestly telling the truth and how obviously her behaviour indicates that she is at least being honest about her experience. Considering also on this patreon we all regularly watch detectives being sympathetic and polite to actual murderers during the evidence gather phase of their investigations. Seems like if you think that is a good tactic to get the truth maybe it would be good to do the same when interviewing a victim.

A lot of people her are mad at the cop I do believe he was being a little excessive but the cop was just doing his job. At no point did he confront her with anything but professionalism and calmness. Granted the poor girl has been through something no woman ever should; but there are genuine cases out there where false allegations are made and the wrong people do time. There's an ongoing case in the UK right now where a young British girl was gang raped in Greece. The Greek justice system didn't believe her and she's now doing time whilst appealing to the European Courts. Imagine that; getting gang raped, not being believed and being thrown in prison? Would you rather be re-traumatised by the police for a few hours after the fact or be accused of lying and go to prison for a few years? Put the shoe on the other foot; you get thrown in prison for someone who claims to have been raped by you... all of a sudden you think the "victim" should have been interrogated better but at the time she may have come across like this girl did so they went easy on her and believed her.. A crime as heinous as rape has to be properly examined and unfortunately that means pulling every bit of detail you can out of a traumatised victim. You can't just throw people in prison because one person was able to look more upset than the other..

"I can remember where I threw my coffee cup this morning." Good for you, asshole. I assume you hadn't been raped in the hour before hand though? I literally want to reach through my computer and punch that last "detective" people like him are why so many victims don't come forward.

what was so devastating about it? It's a tough situation, yes, but that cop also needs to account for protecting the falsely accused. Are you aware that women are capable of manufacturing crocodile tears?

wrong Karen. "she said it happened" isn't good enough. For every truthful victim, there is a conniving backstabbing bitch looking to take a guy down. Sad, but true. So i'm sorry, i'm not going to destory another man's life based on the "b/c the girl said it happened so it must be true!" argument

stfu simp

The last case was really devastating to watch. I will never forget that

They should tie a couple cinder blocks to that piece of shits ankles and throw him off the same bridge

No comments on this can add clarification over that last case... that girl seems really upset. either the cop has more info than we know... or he's a fucking asshole.

She said no in the beginning and then laid there and didn't fight back. This is common among victims of sexual assault. Instead of flight or fight they just disassociate and try to mentally check out until it's over. It is very scary. She even was traumatized to the point of vaginal bleeding, and even acknowledged that perhaps the rapist saw it as consensual. Skepticism like this is the reason many women do not report. As she said, she wouldn't come to the cops if this ever happened to her again. Enthusiastic consent is the only consent.

If everything was the same between her story and the story she described from her friend where he stopped when she said no, definitely not an attempted rape, then she wasn't raped. If she is honestly so much of a mess that she can't even say no she's too mentally unstable to consent anyway and should probably be in an institution. She is clearly very deeply disordered, you can tell just by looking at her.

WOW. every time she said " I didn't say no but I didn't consent" I FELT that. I can see why certain questions are necessary but to what extent? This poor women has been taken advantage of from a family member and wasnt listened to correctly or believed which brings us here to this interrogation of an assaults'. She said it happened it doesn't matter what you have to do know or how much money it will cost you DO YOUR FUCKING JOB.

I respectfully disagree.

Imagine being interrogated by Anthony Jeselnik. Poor girl.

I bet he has a hard time finding people to play scrabble with him nowadays

Tyler Hoppe

The last cop did his job - it was unpleasant, but necessary.

If that guy asks for a pencil to do some drawing say no!

Out of everything I've watched on this channel the rape victim interview at the end was probably the hardest. I really understand why women i know who have gone through this feel like the police do not care and uphold rape culture. Personally i understand why they use a confrontational tactic, however there is certainly a better way to find the truth. The confrontational, cold-hearted and aggressive tone is not necessary. You can be compassionate and ask hard questions at the same time.

Omg the dude I with the blue has to most punchable voice That fake timid bullshit Is so infuriating fuck THAT GUY

I can’t imagine how helpless that cop felt when he saw the pick up a child. That would be very tough to get that out of your mind

Wow the second video right off the bat was tough to watch. I’m surprised that dude was taken IN alive, dude doesnt even look like he got beat up

Can you imagine 😂 he co counsel is Matt Serra

Damn...didn't know Jim Norton was a prosecutor.

nah, police only care about getting a conviction. they don't care if the person is innocent.

Would love to watch the rest of the JCM videos, were they removed? How can they be watched?

I’m no expert but I assume the impact of falling from 70 feet would’ve knocked her out so she didn’t have to endure the pain of drowning. Regardless, I’m sure a higher power was watching over

It’s easy to get upset about the last one but his tactic worked... the abuser was convicted and the victim got paid. Police don’t care about emotions, they only care if justice is served. Rightfully so

Where can I watch part 8 and earlier parts?

nitemar

The whole point of the interrogation was to be a dick, he had to press as hard as he could to find any inconsistencies or any further information. He likely knew she was telling the truth, but had to keep pressing. It's an awful job, I definitely couldn't do it.

I know the case with the girl being taken advantage of was only here to differentiate between subject being truthful and not, but god that policeman really threw me off, when he said "but you went along with it" trying to refer to it as if she was at fault for not trying to run away, I had to stop, i couldn't listen any further, it pains me and i couldn't even start to imagine how the girl would have felt at that moment. I really hope the dude has a daughter and relisten to this one day to realize how much of a dick he sounded. That was not a part of trying to catch a lie, that was just plain rude and inconsiderate. Jesus fuck.

If only John Johnchuck Junior hadn't been a jilted jackass.

I'll venture a guess: in psych wards and jails, it's hard to find quality implements to stab people with. A pencil or a pen is sometimes the best thing you can find, and unless you're really strong the only way you can do any serious damage is if you get them in the throat or the eye. Eye is easier to penetrate and usually more disabling. So, this might be a habit he picked up while locked up. Then again, maybe he's just bonkers.

So that the mother would not get the daughter. He would have had to go back to jail due to dangerous driving, which he was out on bail for. He was also upset the childs mother was getting married. (According to the video)

If the guy that threw his daughter off a bridge wasn't insane, and was guilty of 1rst degree murder... then what was his motive?? Did I miss something???

The first dude really likes to stab people in the eye with pencils, did noone ever asked him why?

That last one was hard to listen to, I can understand why people may not want to report especially if they saw this video. I totally get making sure the accusation is true but there has to be a better way surely??

Lawyers make me want to puke..

Love this comment. 💜

Tanja

Canadians. especially Albertans, pronounce stuff differently.

The shrink mispronounced psychopathy. It’s not “sike - o - pathy.” It’s “sy cop a thee.” I’d be worried my own shrink lacks basic knowledge of his profession.

The young woman who had the foster parents has a beautiful soul. Detective asked her if she wanted anything bad to happen to the guy who took advantage of her and she replied no. She just didn't want him to do that to anyone else. She wanted him to grow as a person. She doesn't hate anyone because she loves everyone.

Mark Robertson

what a terrible attitude you have, after watching all these videos you still can't see the good cops do? This is very childish behaviour

So, if Phoebe died of drowning, does that mean she was alive when she hit the water? That poor child must have felt pure terror. Awful..

Fuck that cop. FUCK THAT COP! Good for that girl for standing up to him!!! A.C.A.B!!!💯

John Jacob Jingleheimer Johnchuck Junior, judged by a justified jury.

That second guy is a fucking asshole!!!! I cannot forgive him for killing that little girl!!!

Everyone just gonna ignore that weed plant? WE ALL SAW IT

Ian Nelson

Wow, this is just amazing. So much psychology behind everything and it’s so fascinating. I am not all being lax about the crimes it just helps to see and hear all the tactics used.

that's some john wick type shit

After watching this, I don't think male cops should be allowed to question women reporting rape. This girl, wasn't even a woman yet...

Florida Man...

You're an idiot.

pretty controversial statement

Any murder is bad although child killer are the lowest in society.

I do not like child killers!

omg me too hahaha I was YELLING at the screen! that cop is grade A incompetent i cannot believe he's talking to her like she's the one in trouble! She's the one who came in to do something about an injustice believing they would help and his stupid ass totally made her feel like there was no point in doing so... that is just so upsetting to me. I really hope he got taken off of interrogations after this. and that they show this to rookies as how not to conduct an interview. shame on him

Why did this video have a viewer discretion warning?

Fuck, that cope interviewing the assault victim is making me livid.

Ethan Barbee

The first guy is the poster child for the death penalty. Offers no value to society what so ever. Just shoot him in the head and case closed.

I wondered that, until he mentioned something about 'if women don't want sex then they'd resist down there'. We just have some other moron who has no idea how multifasceted and complex rape is. It's not a simple "NO GET OFF ME" case. There is a lot of pressure emotionally as well as physically onto the victim. A lot of shame and self-doubt after the fact. Embarrassment, questioning whether it was somehow you and your fault. Reluctancy to go to the police because that means you need to be excrutiatingly physically examined, probed, then question often in extremes such as this. I GET it. SOME WOMEN LIE ABOUT THIS. So there needs to unfortunately be a degree of scepticism going into this. However read the room. I think unfortunately an alleged female rape victim needs to be interrogated / questioned by another female. The moment this moron said somethign about 'if you don't want to be raped then your body will resist' it reminds me that men like him don't have a clue about female anatomy and its frightening. I can only hope he doesn't have daughters.

The rape victim went into "freeze" mode. As she had been molested in the past as this would be bringing up the trauma of the past event as well as this one, and even more if she hadn't had any help at the time. People who have been raped in the past will be more likely to be a victim than others.

Steven, was not seeking a response to my comment. But since you felt compelled to do so, let me continue the dialogue and explain a few things. When you don't want to have sex and someone has sex with you anyway, that by definition is sexual assault. If you believe it to be coercion as opposed to rape it's possible the charge could be classified differently and prosecuted differently in Canada. She did assert in the beginning, "No" was spoken a few times, and having been a previous victim of molestation as a minor, should have been taken into account. She was being interrogated, not questioned, and by an older male in a room by herself the day after the assault. In previous videos by this channel we learn about the fight, flight or freeze manner of responding to an imminent threat. A young woman having previously experienced sexual trauma (that went unpunished) may have frozen as the assault occurred in response to the imminent threat. Furthermore, in this case, she mentioned that there was a possibility she had been drugged which would further buttress the argument that she may have been unable to respond with a fight or flight response. What do you mean "sexual assault is no joke"? There isn't a woman of my personal acquaintance that hasn't been sexually assaulted and we laugh about it constantly. Thanks for saying that, because we're going to joke about it later.. My Mom, both my Aunts, my best friend, my coworkers, my friends, have all been sexually attacked to varying degrees and we just cannot wait to chuckle to each other about it! I have been sexually assaulted SEVERAL times. I've been drugged. I never went to the police with any of it because of the fear of retribution and the exact scenario that plays out in this video. But it so funny to me, LOL! Just kidding, little assault survivor humor, it's nightmarish! Every victim of sexual assault feels the burden of having justify to someone like yourself that cannot possibly understand the horrific implications that they, like myself, were victimized. Battery victims have only to be questioned and produce evidence of physical harm and nobody says "You could have said 'No'!" Why then, having been to the hospital to be examined, having produced bloody underwear, and having been subjected to what I would consider an unquestionably psychologically manipulative interrogation would the victim be blamed by you? Because you absolutely did just blame the victim, just so we're clear. Not sure exactly why you felt compelled to respond to my comment to begin with considering my stated emotional reaction to the video. Please, dazzle me with your further insights.

Fcking A right. Hope that cop got disciplined.

Caleb Coleman

And then I keep watching.....This whole video is hard to watch.

Ugh that bridge story is so awful. I'd be destroyed witnessing something like that....and then I keep watching. Man this whole video is hard to watch.

Homeboy really loves using pencils ay?

underwhelming last interview, they just go AROUND AND AROUND like a broken record

Easy to say you would've.

In regards to the last girl, we dont know what led up to this interrogation. Im sure the detective had much more info to act this way towards her esp when someone can go to jail for consensual sex.

Holy shit no wonder women don't want to tell anyone.

Where’s part 1-8?

Everyone complaining bout the last one, she lying homie free da dawg

I really don’t like the way that the police officer conducted the last interview... To me I would get angry and leave and handle it myself. I think it’s very dangerous because seeing that will discourage so many people.

That end one really was hard to watch.

A false rape claim gets all the press and outrage but the serious and disgustingly common crime of rape is happening WAY MORE, it often goes unreported, it can happen to either sex and the expectation of going through this kind of sh*t in the video is exactly why it isn't reported along with fear of the person that did it when the departments to protect them are another battle to fight. how hard do you have to fight to not be molested and harassed, why is it the victims job, how hard does she have to hit em, how loud does she have to yell, how many court dates and days off work/school and doctors probes and everything. how much resistance do you need for it to earn the right to NOT get raped by some fkhead(s) or lured into a car or drugged. A lot of people freeze up when afraid. some people don't get angry because they have ZERO self esteem. I'd end up in prison for punching the cop in the face for being so condescending.

Meth doesn't cause psychosis. It most certainly brings it out in people. I advise getting them out of your life because of the fact they are prone to financial issues and theft. The lack of sleep severly impairs their judgment, but usually doesn't cause permanent disconnection from reality. I wouldn't assume they are gonna go crazy and murder someone,but I certainly wouldn't trust them. There are responsable meth users, they just don't go around telling everyone.

I'm so sorry to hear that you went through that. I hope that you're doing better now <3

kieran

I was forced to drink alcohol, beaten, raped at 16 by 3 men in their 20's over a 12 hour period. To make a very long story short, the police officer told the hospital I was a drunk girl trying to screw 3 wealthy men. Only my family and friends believed me and I was left with scars and memories. A year and a half later the police wanted to talk to me again, this time with such compassion, as 13 women had come forward on the leader of the 3. His families connections and wealth had him a few years later back home to Europe. I agree watching the meto movement unfold, and seeing time and again lies about rape a need to be sure. But from my perspective this needs work and I'm glad they are considering fixing protocols. This is a hard topic and perspective, beliefs and emotions are just too high. Unless you've been there, you can only imagine what it is like.

A lot of people come with the mentality of "if a girl said she was raped then it's always the truth" She was asked "did you say no", she didn't say no. She was asked "did you feel like you were in danger" and she said no. If you don't feel like you're in danger and you don't say no, is the cop suposed to believe her anyway? The thing is that once they didn't believe her she started adding different stuff, like saying she was drugged, then backpedaling into saying she "thought" she was drugged. Also, having 0 ill will towards someone that just sexually assaulted you is pretty suspicious to me, coupled with the fact that when she got caught with lying her defense was to say "aight I just wanna let this go and forget about it". You can't take matters like this lightly, because if you wrongly accused someone because you regret what you did after the encounter you're ruining someone's life just because.

i respectfully disagree. were you listening when it was said that the intense interrogation of victims often results in further trauma? being wrongfully accused of rape is not okay, but there is a better way to get the truth than one which traumatizes potential victims. explaining the tactic after the fact will do nothing. keep in mind that seeing these cases and making a hindsight judgement is different than experiencing them yourself.

Meh, the intense interrogation of the girl is nothing compared to wrongfully accusing someone of rape. It's worth it to be sure. Afterwards, they just need to explain the tactic.

That last one was strong and I won't lie, I couldn't finish it, but I think it's a good analysis on an innocent victim and an interrogation of an extremely sensitive topic

The last video was so frustrating - the interrogator had no empathy for her at all, it was like he had made his mind up at the start. This sort of behavior could stop women coming forward for legitimate claims

these comments infuriate me too

Fuck this, this cop infuriates me

good for the last girl for coming forward and giving the cops crap!!! screw them...

why are so many of these in FL? =[

Some people react responsibly and accordingly. I feel for you, such a horrible act is life altering. It all depends on the INDIVIDUALS involved, because SOME victims are not believed, SOME make it up, SOME are totally believed and also being truthful. I had a situation where a friend was raped and it caused her to black out or zone out during sexual acts.. then she started accusing multiple people of raping her. Its such a delicate situation. Never clear cut because over 90% of situations are one persons word against another. I hope you dont take this as an insult, im trying to make a very specific and important point. Peace be upon you, if you have difficulties healing please watch some jordan Peterson videos and search for your particular problem. He is an amazingly helpful and insightful psychologist

This last girl is so tragic because I've been in her position twice, but i never went to the police with either incident. However, socially, I was confronted and responded in the same ways that she did. Especially the second time it was a coworker and our boss had to get involved because he was treating me at work like I was a ghost even though he was the person who took advantage of me! I pulled my pants up again and again and he continued his persistence until I had to viciously tell him to stop and get off me (I could only do this because I had been in this position before and I know that it will only get worse even if I obviously don't want it and he keeps going). Nobody at my work believed me because I tried to keep a cordial relationship with him until he started bragging to our coworkers that we had sex and I was so disgusted because I didn't want it and I kept pulling my pants up and I was sad afterwards and I cried many times about it.They even tried to get ME transferred to another store even though the only crime I committed was agreeing to hang out with a friendly coworker in the night time. I feel so so bad for this girl. I understand her pain. Nobody treats rape victims like victims and it breaks my heart to see them grill her since you can tell she's been honest from the beginning. Having to think about these instances over and over in the presence of a man who doesn't believe her... it's horrible. I feel so bad for her during this interrogation.

Damn that “me too” one really broke my heart. The officer was so dismissive and flip about her experience. To be clear you don’t need to say no or push the person away, BOTH OF WHICH SHE DID, to not consent. You KNOW when you hug someone and their arms are limp, you KNOW when you kiss someone and they are pulling away, you KNOW when you are having sex with someone and they are limp and non responsive with tears streaming down their face and their eyes closed.

Bacall N McElroy

Right. She thought the cop was attacking her so I can see how she thought she was rapped. I mean how times has a girl audibly said "yes I want to have sex" before u do? I'm sorry but I don't think that was rape from hearing the interrogation. I think she 100% believed it was though.

Eternal420

My friend started using meth and now he's unrecognizable as the person I once knew. He thinks that there's a huge conspiracy against him to ruin his life and we're (everyone he knows, cops, doctors, lawyers, his ex-employer, parents and baby's mom) all involved in it. He's definitely suffering from meth induced psychosis been hospitalized multiple times against his will and still nothing or none of us can get through to him. If u know someone who starts using meth my best advice is to cut them out of your life.

Eternal420

Jesus stop giving that man pencils

You are absolutely right. Rape IS a very serious crime. So you would understand, therefore, that "feminists" may indeed be "triggered". It is such an emotive subject for many women and indeed men; myself included. The questions of the interviewer and his approach may well be necessary in this world unpopulated by unicorns, but they are no less horrible and distressing because of this necessity.

That's crazy! Smart following your gut instincts... He seemed so off to say the least.

I like that you're mansplaining rape to women, and generalizing feminists while condemning them for what you perceive to be them generalizing sexism. 50 points!

Loling at the Feminists that are triggered over an investigator doing his job. Jim explains at the beginning that they take two separate interviews with the supposed victim, and if things aren’t matching up that it’s cause to believe the story is fabricated. You’re acting like every rape victim immediately gets the hard ball questions. Rape is a very serious crime, and needs to be treated as such. If every detective took people’s word at face value, then they wouldn’t be doing their job. Sorry the world isn’t happy unicorns and rainbows all the time.

39:54 growing pot plants in the basement

I was waiting for someone to acknowledge the marijuana plant.

This girl is totally credible. I hate the cop but I understand he's trying to make sure it's not a false allegation.

An investigator's job is not to console the victims. It is to uncover the truth.

Miss Jones, srsly, you believe her? you have any idea how foster teens work? they get kicked out of foster homes if they are out fucking around. If they say " I was Raped " then shes a victim

The last guy was a cunt

Rape is not a curse word. It's also not a magical or evil word. No need to censor it. Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you. Shall we also start writing m*rder?

Wojciech Tolsdorf

The rape interrogation one churned my insides. Knowing that I might meet that kind of response makes me certain that I would never report an incident. The percentage of false rape accusations are so small that it should not be necessary to make people feel like no one believes them.

Cathrine Siggerud

the r*pe one was disgusting. He could have gone about that so, so much better. And they wonder why we don't report our attackers.

I knew mark lindsay. He went to elementary with a number of my close friends. Always creeped me out so we were never close. He used to dissect cats and keep them in his freezer. I always felt he would do something horrible one day.

Stop giving that guy pens and pencils

I actually don't believe this girl was raped. i think she regretted her actions as it was cheating(she said he had a baby on the way, implying that he was in a relationship) I commend the officer, he wasn't unemphatic at all. He was just doing his job. Innocent until proven guilty.

Josh Trebilcock

i'm sorry did you not listen to any of the commentary? there is a reason behind it you don't convict someone on a single persons claim.

Julius Caesar Has Jungle Fever

Can someone please answer this.. where are the other videos? I am going through Jim withdrawals

What? Anything but yes is no. If you ask and there is no response that is JUST as valid as a flat-out no. Don't perpetuate that "nonverbal cues" crap...that's insanely harmful. And for a victim who is exhausted and traumatized its very easy and even common for them to just want everything to be over with, regardless of the fate of their attacker. This is some basic human psychology right here.

he killed his daughter because of his ex finding a new boyfriens all the rest is just fake to save his pathetic ass.

He is enjoying to do is, what a sadist..

I hate that last cop!!

Omg that last cop! What an unemphatic complete asshole! That girl is so brave to open up about it, and so obviously truthful...

Where are the first 8 parts of this???

Hey I was just wondering...does anyone know where the police interrogation videos are for pts like 1-7?\

the first story has got to be the best anti-meth story I have ever heard. "I murdered my girlfriend because she was trying to kill me with supernatural witchcraft which required me to stab pens into both of her eyes and run her over twice to make sure she was dead" WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK? You can totally tell that he 100% believes everything he is saying is the way things were in his head, no hesitation on any parts - showing appropriate emotions when he starts talking about hurting her and how he did not want to hurt her. Would any of this happened without the prior substance abuse? I would suggest that his entire perspective on this horrible situation as so jaded and twisted by meth that he thought that she was trying to murder him with witchcraft.

I was in the same friend group as Austin Sigg in high school. Jessica's murder sparked my interest in true crime because it's still hard to fathom how someone who seemed so nice and had a nice girlfriend could be such a monster underneath that mask. Your family and community misses you so much Jessica 💜 may you be resting in peace

She said she didnt say no, people operate on non verbal cues, she keeps changing her mind etc and didnt say no, then backtracks because she realises what will happen to him if she carries on, i think she did this because she was ashamed and its disgusting if thats the case

That last interrogation was harsh to listen to. He really pushed the false accusation of rape narrative because she wasn't acting the way he thought a victim would act. He didn't realize that different people react differently and he cannot empathize with the position of a rape victim (makes sense because he'd probably never be a physical position of subservience). I'm thinking law enforcement (ones without training, anyway) might not be the best people to be interrogating potential rape victims. They're best helped by trained mental health professionals. In the officer's defense, though, is that the victim really doesn't seem to want ramifications for her assailant and to the untrained (myself, included), that can be very confusing and raise eyebrows.

Not a fan of innocent until proven guilty?

Derek

Hope they show that last interrogation as what not to do to a victim.

Caleb Coleman

the prosecutor for the second case is fire

And this is why so many rapes and assaults NEVER get reported

Samantha OHora

I never understood victims of rape that didn't want to come forward and tell police about the crime that was committed. Now that I've seen this, I understand. I understand that the police have to treat them this way to see if they're telling the truth or not, but it's brutal.

You guys wouldn’t say shame on you to the detective If you or someone you loved was on the other end of a false accusation

Great work on these videos, absolutely love the content! Is there a part 1 through 8? I've seen all of the episodes I can seem to find on this channel (part 9, up to part 17 I think)

three words for the last detective: SHAME ON YOU!

kiu (aka kirstine)

I don't think that that first guy is John Lindsey, cause he looks like he might be hiding horns under that flipped up hair. Lucifer, is that you??

Man I’m so obsessed with Jim you are literally my guilty pleasure. I am literally 5 days behind on my homework assignment and frankly dgaf because of this channel lol.... More donations coming soon

Ebony Maple

Definitely found it difficult to listen to that defense attorney

But what do you mean? He HAS to ask those questions, you think when people falsely accuse people of rape they don't cry? they don't have teary eyes and show pain? They need to sell their story so they adapt their behavior to seem realistic. This interrogator is literally the person that will save you from a false rape allegation aside from a lawyer.

That cop with the rape allegation is a total piece of shit... Stress testing a story is one thing, traumatizing a rape victim is another... Fuck him....

Sebastian Schuster

What an idiotic statement...

Sebastian Schuster

1-8 are probably just the videos he has on his YouTube Channel. There's 12 videos there. That's just me assuming though.

MsGhost87

how could anyone be a defense attorney? the fuck?

Are police interrogations part 1-8 available somewhere?

I understand the interrogation with the rape victim was hard to watch, but we shouldn't blame the interrogators or the process, but those women who falsely accuse men of raping them. The harshness of the interrogation is simply a response to what those women have done. I don't think anyone who has to sit through interrogating a victim wants to be so harsh and cold towards them.

Mark looks like junkrat from overwatch

I was interrogated at 12 years old about years of sexual abuse. To this day...that interrogation has scarred me just as much as the abuse. I remember crying on the way home convincing myself I'd never tell anyone about any kind of abuse ever again...My dad was angry but the Detective pulled my dad aside and said...I believe her no doubt but I have to prepare her for cross examination...fast forward to the cross examination...did not compare to that detective's interrogation...I feel her pain in this video. I get why they do what they do but damn...it has some adverse effects...

The rape interrogation was like any good interrogation. The interrogator probably believed her fairly early on, but the grilling was a necessity to get as close to the truth as possible. Sure, it would be nice if the truth just fell out of the sky, but it doesn't. The truth has to be found through investigation, and discovering the truth is the most important thing. I will say that support should be offered to a great extent afterward if the accuser is being truthful, but if offered before or during the gathering of information, it only serves to hurt or neutralize the effectiveness of the tactics. In a society that deems it ethical to prioritize the discovery of truth in an accusation over the stress of the accuser which can potentially be lying, the ends justify the means. I agree with that.

So many have said the same but honestly the rape victims interview was heartbreaking ! The police officer actually broke her trust in humanity because she was so sure in the end she’d never ask for help if it ever happened again 😞 I realise people make false claims but there has to be a better way surely?!?! There definitely has to be harsher sentences for false claims.

That right there is why women don’t report rape. I was disgusted by that interrogation of a vulnerable and traumatized young woman. Less than 2% of reported rapes are found to be false. 10% of car thefts are false, but people aren’t called liars when they report a stolen car. I hope that young woman got the support and care she needed after that appalling experience.

Is there an age limit on adoption of foster kids? We can't have kids. I often think of a video I saw of kids getting ready to meet adults hoping for a forever home that pretty much broke my heart and I have always kept the idea that I could offer a forever home to a grown kid one day. I know this a weird place to ask, but it isn't often you get to hear from a grown up foster kid. No worries if you don't want to reply though.

I feel so horrible for her.

I was a foster child for most of my childhood but never adopted due to my age. I gotta say I’ve been EXACTLY where that young girl is. And that’s exactly how I was treated by those who I was told to trust and who would believe me. I am close to 40 yrs old and I still have trust issues. That was very hard for me to listen to

Charlotte's Web

did he just insult police officers during his defense/prosecution/whatever that lawyer was doing? what????

this cop in the end has no idea about dissociation and freeze/fawn response in such situation with people who developed it in childhood from repeated heavy traumatic experiences like this girl had

Daria Adamitskaya

Yeah that shit really pissed me off. It was OBVIOUS that she was being truthful.

The rape interrogation is exactly why women don't want to report. So awful to watch. That poor girl.

The way that cop was treating that poor rape victim was incredibly hard to watch.

Seconds case is really sad. dude should have been institutionalized the first time around.

That second case Is absolutely heartbreaking.

the cop questioning the rape victim, i would love to kick his face in....

That cop at the end is a POS!!!!!!!! He needs serious training on how to handle that kind of situation.

There's a special place in Hell for that last guy with the rape victim. What a fucking asshole.

madeofivory

I read the beard comments before seeing the "beard" in question. Excuse my language but very *muffy*. That story played out in my home town/province. Creepy.

That cop was a true asshole, those aren't even typical interrogation questions and blaming her because THEY have to do work. What a total piece of shit. The police probably had a hand in the suspect's light sentence!

is that supposed to be a beard or something

Omg the poor rape victim. Not only was she raped by her grandpa, her family didnt support her. She ended up at foster care and raped again by old perv and now this detective €£¥@#$:^& I can't... i just can't

So asshole sticks a Knife into your skull and ya go back to him? WTF!????

The det sounded like he was screwing with that rape victim. Why didn't he ask the "hard questions" that he claimed he had? Then when she finally said, ok ask me a question - and he didn't even have one prepared. What a jerk.

Christie DeSapio

Same. I have such anxiety after watching that. I hope that never happens to me; I don't feel like I could endure that!

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That first dude really liked his eye-pen stabs

Lotus

Except that she was clearly lying... If so many girls didn't lie about rape then they wouldn't have to approach it like this.

That cop is in the wrong profession

Jesus I wanted to flip the table and scream "What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm leaving" on her behalf. Maybe an elbow to the face for good measure. It was so frustrating to watch.

The way the interrogator at the end was questioning the girl who was raped is how most police act. Which is why so many assaulted individuals don't bother reporting it. Besides going to court and having to take the blame because of what they wore or how they were flirting, etc... It's appalling.

Even with the blur, I've never seen a more red face than on the girl claiming rape. It's also inappropriate for a man to interrogate a girl about this. Are there no female detectives on that force?

"she had really strong i'm gonna kill you vibes" says the guy who stabbed her in the head and gouged her eyes out with a pen. jesus christ what a monster

I don't know. I think he knew the best way to help this woman was by attacking any potential holes in her story. He is only doing what the defense would do in court. However, I was hoping once the questioning was over he would explain why he needed to be so confrontational and console her to some degree. She seems like a genuinely good human being which makes this all the worse.

that poor girl in the end, she should have had an interrogator who was not as accusatory, i can absolutely understand why she is so defensive, she was just ASSAULTED, and this dude is very rudely questioning EVERYTHING she says, and telling her she's wrong. She just needed someone who was more understanding and not so aggressive with his questioning.

Omg, the last woman who got raped doesn't understand that the police officer is trying to help her.. worst cooperator ever!

Do not exist around the first guy, or he will just stab you in the eye with a writing utensil.

Ahri #1 Fan

Man. That interview with the rape victim. I can’t even. That b*stard det. is the reason women (and men) don’t come forward. I can’t believe what he did to her. I hope she was able to get therapy and I hope he gets treated the same way when something horrible happens to him. That was HORRIBLE.

who cares about how you would react, you can clearly see a situation here when a person doesn't have a personality like yours

The problem I have with the last one was even tho she was telling the truth .. why did she go to the house or why didn’t she fight stab claw her way out .. she let it happen because she was scared to say something even tho she was uncomfortable ? What’s the alternative ? Maybe it’s my personality speaking but when I’m uncomfortable in non serious situations I voice my feelings Soo when it is a serious situation I’m speaking up ... I don’t like sheep

I understand the cop is doing his job putting her through the paces or whatever but seriously what the fuck? Do they really need to go to such extremes as to potentially retraumatize a victim to suss out the truth? That's fucking gut wrenching to watch

Andrew Becker

THE COP AT THE END, WOW. THAT WAS HARD TO WATCH

Yes it's his job, yes he has to do it, but the reason people are vocalizing their discomfort with it is bc it's very visibly a terrible system and structure of interrogation that only exacerbates trauma--no other type of victim goes through this. The criminal system isn't some objective amoral entity, it's enmeshed in the fabric of society, and ours is one that is quicker to vilify women for being raped than vilify rapists and that is very obviously playing out in this interview regardless of intention. I don't think people are vilifying the cop so much as the system bc we're all aware of why he's asking those questions.

that is pretty interesting -about the nasty type of questioning. this cop does seem like a bad fucker/but perhaps he is 'playing a role'. this victim ,though, gets the tough end of the questions. hmm. i agree she sounds totally truthful and honest

I was going to ask this myself. Does anyone know where the rest are?

More depts have only men than you think. You assume there is always gals around. There aren't. My first dept didn't have a female on patrol for THREE YEARS. We still had plenty of sex crimes and someone had to do the job. Second, the cop pushes her on purpose. If they press charges and go to court, the defense attorneys will push her as hard if not harder. If she waivers, it's all over (exc evidence). So the cop is actually doing a damn good job making sure the case will stand the test of a courtroom. Yep, it's uncomfortable, but it's necessary. I've done it many many many times and frequently I've had the victim come up to me after court months later and say "Thank you, your interview that night cemented the facts in my brain for me. 🙂" I'm sure it looks rough to you, but if you spent a few years becoming a cop and then a few more years studying interviewing and interrogation, I think you'd see why the professionals do what they do. 😁

It says part 9 so where are parts 1-8

i was thinking the same

*anyone who lies about being raped has got some fucked up mind.

I lol'd when she threw the tissue in the trash can towards the end

Am I crazy? Where are parts 1-8?

Stop giving this man pencils.

Everyone is complaining about the rape victim one and saying that the cop did a bad job. Simply not the facts, the guy was doing his job. As JCS said post clip, this questioning is a prerequisite, it has to be done. As for the tone, she had one piece of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I could see that she was telling the truth, I think that the questioning should be changed in some manner and I believe that the man did not get the sentence he deserved. But for the love of god use your brain, they don't know her! It's the sad reality of sexual crimes, sometimes it is difficult to get key evidence, it is also easy for a man to be falsely accused of rape. The truth has to be found.

Bradley Freeman

I couldn't bear to watch the poor woman at the end – unbelievable what the police man put her through.

Its private really want to see

I’m so sorry. X

disgusting the way the police interrogate rape victims, name another crime that garners that type of accusatory tone to the victim.

That rape victim interrogation was horrible. I remember when I disclosed a recent rape to a psychologist. He told me that the general experience for rape victims is that if they go to the police and go through the court process, they tend to get traumatised all over again by the experience. In the end I chose not to go to the police, and this video makes me feel glad I didn't. I'm confident he's still out there raping woman after woman.

Women who lie about being raped are evil.

wheres the tmc interviews 8-1???

maccabee

So glad Austin turned himself in before harming anyone else. The mention of his porn consumption is important. Ted Bundy himself said that consuming massive amounts of dark porn definitely affected him / influenced his crimes. Today’s porn accessibility & variety is nothing compared to that of Bundy’s time. 😢

I wonder if anyone interviewed the pencil-stabby guy’s 2 (witchcraft practicing) ex-girlfriends that he mentioned?

OMG that cop, in the end, is torturing that poor girl, after it was more than clear that she is being truthful. Even if they do have to rigorously make sure her allegations are not fabricated, they should first use a policewoman, and not a man, second, use different tactics when trying to validate her claims, that is, not interrogational tactics per se, rather more nuanced and subtle version of those tactics. Ive seen cops be more patient and soft handed with brutal psychopaths here on this channel, this cops just pushes her and keeps pushing way beyond what is needed or appropriate in such a case.

"The best course of action for you is to tell the truth about what happened ..." It's remarkable how often this absurd -- and very obvious -- lie is believed by otherwise intelligent suspects. It's a testament to either the effectiveness of interrogation or the way our brain fractures logic and common sense under stress. Or maybe both.

should be fixed now

I'm sorry but at the end of the last one with the rape victim and blurred faces, I was thinking you were gonna say how bad of a job the cop did (which IMO would be be a cool way of possibly doing some videos in the future). But I can't believe how this was handled. I felt so bad for her, and could tell on my own she was telling the truth. No wonder women don't want to come forward.

Yea, I cant access this one. "This video is private"

It says it's private?

Concerning the last case and those arguing we need tougher consent laws: it would still rely on witness testimony. Also consider that consent is more than just a verbal "yes" or "no". Being friendly, building a relationship and visiting someone at their place are pretty strong social indicators. It would not be hard to argue that the accused had plenty of "yesses" along the way. Furthermore, notice how he was intoxicated and had a hard time recalling that night which, under modern consent laws, would imply that she was taking advantage of him. I do not agree with these laws for the same reason that drunk drivers don't get to use that excuse, but that exemplifies the problems with these laws. If people are taught better social skills that'd prevent a whole lot of hurt.

John Jonchuck Junior, that's a mouthful

Victor

the rape case left me fuming.

I really don't understand why can't they give a female detective for rape victims to talk to. The shame and fear they are feeling is often too much itself and if they gather to courage to make a statement they often have to answer to questions such as: "were you are aroused when it happened?" Not like it matters at all. A very few rape victims do feel sexual arousal it doesn't make the rape any less traumatizing if anything it just contributes to victim's self-loathing, shame and confusion and cause even greater emotional pain.

Sorry you had that experience; i hope you are well

I'm from Red Deer and just now learned of Mark Lindsay. That one was close to home, damn

Hi there! I'm a guy who was raped by a close friend a number of years ago. When the assault happened, I completely froze up - I was too scared to do much of anything except cooperate in order to get it over with and come out intact. All of the people making judgmental comments about the girl in the last segment have probably never been assaulted, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. It is a terrible, horrible thing to go through. Perhaps your defensiveness comes from the awareness that your own behavior crosses the line into the sort of things she described and so many people both in this comment thread and in your lives have experienced. I have no fear of being accused of rape because I have never raped anyone, simple as that. I feel sorry for anyone who looks at a video of a scared child and attacks her character. My heart goes out to her.

Mark Lindsey should have been arrested for his hair/beard style choices

I'm not overly into violence against humans, but that guy who stabbed peoples eyes out with pencils should have to wear a blindfold for the rest of his life in solitary. Seeing should not be a privilege rewarded to him after all of that shit.

Sure, but keep in mind this young woman was abused as a child by her step-father. Trauma does weird shit to our brains. Also she said that she said no when he was still only kissing her.

people just don't communicate with their partners these days.

Jack Hazardous

Yeah I agree, whether she was truthful or not, I feel like the interrogation could have been handled differently. Getting "turned on" is just a natural reaction, it doesn't mean that the individual is okay with it tho.

Man, that second guy's dad worked damn hard to give his son a multi-million dollar inheritence, only for him to not only squander it but end up a murderer too. What a sad end for all involved.

"Do you want him to hurt from this?" "No. I want him to be a healthier person and make healthier choices." My heart breaks for this girl. Keeps mentioning how she didn't want to do this because she knew she'd be doubted. What are the chances she'll come forward in the future, after this experience? God damn, at the end she says "I'll never come to the authorities again." Awful. I'm not sure how it could be done much better in that stage -- his techniques were effective, just obviously terrible for an actual victim to go through, adding another layer of trauma to an already life-shattering experience.

Connor Coghlan

Yeah I don't really want the world knowing what I crank it to, or that I looked up how to hard boil an egg...

OK... whether the girl is telling the truth or not, it's not right that she was being interrogated by a male detective, and I can't see how it's relevant whether or not she was "turned on" - women can lubricate and even orgasm during rape. I can only imagine how horrible it would be for a woman who was just raped to be asked such questions by a man who is presenting as skeptical and unsympathetic as he is.

Off topics: do y'all ever worry about being accused of a crime and having your browser history, consisting of police interrogation videos, discovered? :|

that's why places have consent laws where you need confirmation to have sex with someone instead of silence

Actually seeing what happens in an audition room concerning rape accusations makes me realize how complicated these cases can be... In this case, it seems like the girl actually unwillingly had sexual intercourses but that her "partner" may have not realized it... She seems very truthful in my opinion, but unfortunately the guy couldn't read her mind. Poor girl must have been traumatized by a previous abuse and it wouldn't be surprising if she herself was having a hard time knowing if she was into it this time. But should the "abuser" be punished for it, if he truly had no way of knowing that she was not consenting ? I think they need to talk about what happened, that the guy should know how she felt at the moment. But not sure about what Justice should do about it

silence is not consent.

how hard is it to say "hey babe, I don't like you doing witchcraft on me, i think we should split." then no one dies and no one gets cursed.

Aromatic Hyena

I'm tired of women who cry rape, but it isn't rape. If you stay silent and not tell the guy to stop, then he thinks you are willing and consenting.

Donna

The husband (with the wife in the tub) gives off a gay vibe to me.

Donna

I think it's kind of funny this guy stabbed a woman in the head, then stabbed or tried to stab people in the eye with a pencil or a pen on two other occasions, but that's not enough evidence for the authorities. No, they still give him a pencil so he can keep score while playing Scrabble and wait for him to stab again before they deny him access to pointy things. That's it! Three strikes and you're out! No more stabby stabby stabs for you!

I disagree, I think there is a good balance between the interviews and the narrative

The interrogations go on too long without any narrative, not loving it

Sweet voice huh. Must be truthful then . Guessing you're not a detective.

Although the guy she had 'read' her signs (doubt there weren't any , most likely just regret) she should've spoken up. If you don't say anything at all while he's getting intimate then you're basically saying yes. You don't see people asking for your full consent right before having sex "Hey, so I know it's getting intimate but need your consent". Both equally wrong.

The last case broke my heart. So frustrating to watch. And the poor girl had the sweetest voice.

Yeah but the guy should have the wherewithal to recognize the girl is not into it and doesnt wnt it. She said she was cowering into the corner of the bed while he got the condom. Im sure he knew he was basically raping her. Shes too shy and scared to speak up. Youre a creep if youre ok with fucking a girl who clearly isnt into it.

so she didn't say no, she didn't resist, didn't do anything to stop it just let herself "get raped" without any sign of unwillingness... for fuck sake girl if you don't want to have sex say so, all you're doing now is regretting having sex, fuck her honestly, if she didn't want it and yet led him on and let it happen it's her own damn fault...

H.P Fuckcraft

Mark be lookin like jimmy neutron

Pity the cop didn't shoot him.

He took revenge on his ex by taking that which he knew would hurt her the most. Could not stand being rejected. GUILTY.

It's ridiculous and uneducated to put this on the meth. He was already unstable to begin with. Sure, heavy and long term use of methamphetamines can cause psychosis and whatnot but that doesn't mean that he holds no culpability. Meth is a chemical, that cannot physically push a pen into an eye socket, the guy killed her.

Headsick

Lord, that detective interviewing the sexual assault case needs some work. He's not trauma-informed.

the two cases with the young girls really got me. i couldn't stop crying. hearing the prosecutor bluntly talk about the first girl's death sent chills all over me

This one is my favorite so far, thank you for your work sir

UNreal.

Dude looks like Wolverine.

The first dude is so dangerous, he didnt even need a proper weapon to end someones life. He's not even that dangerous, meth is!!!

So whenever there is a crime, we should't investigate or interrogate, just listen and believe the victim? Or does this apply only with women or only with rapes when women are the victims? All women are to be believed if a conclusion is made that they are being truthful and their version matches with the investigation results. Women do lie, there are false rape accusions, trust me. This is blind feminism at it's worst, I really hope you were just trolling.

Who keeps giving the first guy pencils LOL

Listen and believe. Should be no investigation at all. All women are to be believed. Amirite?

Poopoo

Not to mention she clearly had a history of sexual abuse. I can say as someone who has dealt with it (also as a child), I shut down when i was in a similar situation. I silently cried and stared off. I was terrified. Absolutely terrified. I felt violated. I was uncomfortable. It was all too much for me. I can certainly see where she is coming from. the word 'no' had no meaning to the people who first assaulted me, why would it be different later on?

Trauma causing PTSD-like symptoms can definitely cause lapses in memory, temporary or nearly permanently... So I get that she could recall certain things after a horrible sleepless night of anxiety and replaying the entire day over and over in her mind. Cases like this are always strange to me though... Charging someone with rape when there wasn't even an indication that he was doing so, especially when she clearly states she doesn't think he felt like he was doing something she didn't want... How is that rape then? I can totally understand though, not wanting to even fight against it when someone is at that level of intoxication for fear of making them angry and making the rape considerably worse and more traumatic. This kind of case is such a hard thing to deal with... The worst part about it though is the fact that she very adamantly states she would never tell anybody if it were to happen again. I hope there are much better methods for determining guilt in the future. I really think women should be required to interview women for this kind of interrogation though. I imagine that would be a helpful first start.

Andrew Parmeter

That last investigator must’ve took an online course Jesus Christ

“What were you afraid of...” Hm. I don’t know... maybe she was afraid of GETTING RAPED!!! Jeez.

Wow the rape one really pissed me off. I don't know how that detective sleeps at night.

She doesn't feel he thought he was raping her but she did, so fucking tell him! All this feminist bullcrap but we still can't say no....

I've been using black magic to win at checkers for decades now

People love to say that rape allegations ruin lives but give me one example ? Every fucking NFL and NBA player that has been accused or even convicted still has a career for fucks sake!

You clearly didn’t listen. He said and if the child DIES it is first degree murder..

Can you give any evidence of a situation where the me to movement has taken away justice?

The other thing that made the story so unsettling was that, even though the testimony was solid, even though she persisted through the interrogation, even though the perpetrator was convicted, he served no time and was not registered as a sex offender.

I'm glad to hear that the police are exploring alternative to their current strategy for taking statements from alleged rape victims, because the current strategy is brutal. That was so painful. I kept hoping for some kind of disclosure from the investigator, "Okay, it's all been a strategy to produce a solid conviction. Sorry for treating you like this, but it's the only way we know how," or something.

Please present your alternative strategy for producing unassailable testimony that results in a conviction.

That last one. I had that experience. Only it was worse. I fought loudly, yelling no and the guy (an ex) smacked me around and bit me repeatedly for fighting. All I have to say is I will absolutely never ever go to the cops again if Im assaulted by someone I knew. The cops made it like it was my fault cuz I let my ex in my house under the pretense of him picking up some stuff. The shit with the cops was more traumatic than the actual event. They were saying I wanted him to do that (nevermind that I fought and he had abrasions on his arms where I tried to fight him off and I had bite marks and bruises all over), then when that didnt work they started saying I liked rough sex and all this other absolutely fucked up shit. It was 20+ years ago and I hope to god its different now because if its not, I can tell you, if you at all knew your rapist in any way, and it wasnt a complete stranger jumping you with a knife, the cops are gonna act like its your fault and that youre lying and wanted it.

child of cascadia

making a murder steve avery case please

PLEASE DO THE STEVE AVERY INTERROGATIONS!!! I WOULD LOVE YOUR INCITE IN THIS CASE!!! IT WOULD BE SOO HELPFUL

The focus of the channel is psychological analysis. You should stay out of the comments if dissecting the motives of literally anyone involved with any case is offensive to you.

Zigzagman

Upon reading these comments I am appalled at how many people are okay with the interview with the rape victim. Some of you even have a problem with consent, as in its bullshit and can be assumed just by going to someone’s home. I was going to rant but I’m so disgusted that I’m speechless except for sounds and expletives. Fuckin hell

Steven Harper

My comment was in response to Kevin Johnson. He seems to think “if you care about males” then it’s okay to basically re-rape the victim. You can “care about males” and not be a fucking heartless pig towards women. Jesus Christ.

Steven Harper

There are appropriate ways to question a rape victim to determine the legitimacy of the accusation, this detective was not appropriate. One of the reasons many victims do not report the crime is because they feel re-victimized recounting the events, it is an extremely traumatic experience. I understand there are false accusations and it is important to determine the legitimacy as early as possible, but that doesn’t mean you treat the alleged victim like liar. If you can’t figure out how to get to the truth without being a fucking cunt to a possible rape victim then you shouldn’t be the one conducting the interview. Period.

Steven Harper

You must not be aware of all the false accusations. Some counties it's around half they figure(the county ). Half. One of the hidden sad truths of our day. If you also care about males.

my heart goes to the rape victim. This police officer is confused as to what his job is. He is male first police officer second. Stupid idiot.

23:29 err... am I the only one who thought he meant the mom had FB posted about Phoebe's _death,_ the day prior to her murder?! Took me 3 listens to realize it was in reference to her engagement. BTW: are those face tats supposed to be eyebrows??

Who TF keeps allowing this guy to have a pencil/pen!? Also, he has incredible precision 😬

Her name is Jessica not Jenifer

I amRenee. The investigators say this to get suspects to talk - to make it seem as though something can be gained by talking. It is simply a coercion technique. It is very sad that many truly believe the investigator wants to and indeed has the power to help them in some way if they cooperate with them. Then investigator has one true motive - lock a person into a story and a timeline and to get a confession. Once they have this first interview and version of events everything that is said subsequently is compared to look for inconsistencies.

Pamela Bomersback

As someone who has worked closely with a man whom was deemed Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity by the Ontario Review Board, I agree with the prosecution that the nature of one's delusions does not change over time, but rather evolve along the same topic. I spent 16 hours a week with him for over one year, implementing an intensive behavioral and community reintegration program, and his auditory hallucinations were always somehow correlated with one another. I therefore think that it is important to note, as per the prosecution and psychiatric expert, that while paranoia and schizoid symptoms can be a part of one's overarching mental diagnosis, their presence alone does not guarantee that someone was not self-aware during their crime. In addition, unless an individual is considered developmentally delayed below 70IQ points, their subsequent awareness that they have a mental diagnosis is *commonly* used as a form of manipulation in my experience (dependent upon the diagnosis, of course). For example - and this one happened to me with the aforementioned individual many times - "The voices are telling me to hug you and love you", meanwhile in the presence of his Ontario Review Board members, he was able to categorically state he would not hug a female without her consent. Hope you appreciated my 2 x 20 cents all! <3

Ok. Let me try and explain. Unless you (universal you) are a complete sociopath, you are probably going to feel bad if you kill someone. I dont mean necessarily guilty, but just bad emotions in general. Nervous, fear etc. And everything - *everything* about an interrogation is designed to play on that fear and make you feel like the only choice is to confess. In the US, too, there is absolutely no law stopping the cops from lying through their teeth to you. Everything is designed to put pressure on a guilty mind, psychological techniques built up over years of study. Thats why people say "if you did it, nothing good can come from talking to them. Get a lawyer". Hell, unless youre just a completely uninvolved witness and you want to help the cops cuz what you saw was really bad- get a lawyer or dont talk to them. But thats why people confess, tailored psychological pressure.

child of cascadia

Can u see a video titled TMCPI? That's where they are

Mary Ali

Your videos are fascinating and horrifying at the same time. It's a reminder of how many fucked up people are wondering around the world. One reoccurring theme I see is the detectives insisting that having the person confess will in some way help them (We can't help you unless you tell me what happened). Help them how? It seems like the worse thing someone can do is confess, or even when they try to lie to cover up the crime, and give false details that can later be used against them. Seems to me the best thing anyone can do wether they are guilty or not is remain silent. Am I missing something? I don't know much about the legal system, but does confessing in an interrogation actually have any legal benefit for the accused? Something else i'm curious about is why don't people automatically request an attorney from the very start (especially the guilty ones). I understand that requesting an attorney gives an appearance of guilt, but that's just perception. Does refusing to talk and requesting an attorney have a negative impact on a potential case? This all seems really dumb to me, so i'd love see a video on why people confess in interviews, or why they don't ask for a lawyer. Anyway, I am addicted to your videos so keep them coming.

Hi guys I just joined jcs patreon to rewatch his police interrogation series parts 1-8 as they were taken off YouTube. But they don't seem to be available here either. Any idea where might I find them?

I really enjoy the way the RCMP in the last segment questioned that young woman.. you can tell he has been at this for a long time.

tcmpi 1-7 two vids below this... all embedded in links

Where is The Most Compelling Police Interrogations pt. 1-8?

Anyone find it strange that the doctors in the second case were “merin” and “bursten”, the priest and mother in the excorcist? Weird coincidence.

features creatures

Priest is like "Yo, I only say things in a kind soft spoken voice in order to reap the tithes and offerings. This is way out of my element" Idk how he would've been able to determine if this guy (who's acting out of the ordinary) is a danger. Save for if it's right there in front of his face

The first guy *must* be crazy to think that scraggly neck patch "beard" that doesn't pass his chin is attractive

That first sentence is a red flag, my friend, don’t display it this proudly. That first paragraph would never, or VERY rarely, happen. She’s going to be, if mildly startled, appreciative of the fact that you’re asking her before. Like I know there are non-verbal consent cues, but if you ask, she may be more comfortable with saying no. And yes, everyone who has had sex intuitively knows what nonverbal sexual cues are. However, if you’re inebriated for example, you’re probably too into it and your judgement too impaired to notice that she hasn’t moved as much, or reciprocated as actively, you had to shove her legs open, etc. Maybe she likes being dominated. Still, a check-in is nice. Legalities aside, what do you prove by just going for it to your own satisfaction and then both of you leave with a bad taste in your mouths and embitterment about the whole thing?

The whole concept of consent is so ridiculous. Imagine going to a club, getting into contact with a girl, hitting it off and kissing with each other, deciding together to go back to your place, getting together into your room, undressing her and yourself, crawling on top of her and then say "do you consent that I have sex with you?", or "do you really want to have sex with me?". She would look at you as if you're mentally challenged. You're basically writing up an underlying social contract along the way. That's not to say you can't say "no" after going through every obvious step that leads to a sexual engagement. Maybe you're just incredibly naive and figure out that the guy that brought you back to his place after being intimate with you in a club wants to have sex with you by the time that you're on his bed. That's fine, even if it's incredibly naive. But you have to at least say "no" at that point. It's not like someone just committed an act of rape when you have never said "yes, I want to have sex with you.". That's ridiculous sexual behavior. It also doesn't work when you outright say in a club "I've had a great time with you, and now I want to take you home to have sex with me.". That kills the entire sexual tension that's building up and what makes it so compelling to eventually sleep with each other. God, the whole man blaming game that's going on in society at the moment isn't at all helpful to these young girls. Yes, of course when there's a case of outright rape men should be dragged through the mud and convicted. But if you blame every confusing sexual encounter on men, like some people in the feminist movement do at the moment, you never teach women to assert themselves and take responsibility. Whenever you go on a night out, you know that you're gonna be put into a situation where men seek the attention of women and that their hormones drive them towards sexual encounters, especially at a young age in college. Add a load of alcohol on top of that and you should realize that you're in a situation where you need to take care of yourself and be sober enough to be able to exert some control. Just blatantly hooking up with a guy, agreeing to go back to his place and then not object when he assumes you're there because you like him and want to have sex with him is fucking ridiculous. If I were the young man that was being charged in that case with the last girl in the video, I'd demand a lenient sentence for the girl and a mandatory course of assertiveness training, as well as an educational program where she learns more about the sexual behavior of our species. She basically did this to herself, and I think the blame is more on current discussions about sexuality and consent in our culture than on her.

To study what makes them do that, understand how we might be able to prevent it in the future and helping to understand psychology as a whole. Killing him is like throwing out a pretty substantial test sample. Never going to stop it happening if we never understand why it happens in the first place.

Regarding the first guy - wouldn't the best option for society just be to put him down? What good is he ever going to do for us? Violently ill murderer who stabs people in the eyes during games of Scrabble? What on earth is the purpose of paying to keep him alive.

the last interrogator is kind of shit

The detective in the last case (rape) is disgusting. Just absolute human garbage. Hope he doesn't ever have any daughters.

no, the guy literally just stood up with a kid and turned around. even if the cop ran over there, he would have been too late to stop him.

why

even a miscommunication doesnt excuse rape.

ever heard of stockholm syndrome? also some people will forget things bc it was so traumatizing plus it just shows shes a good person, placing others well being over her own, even if theyre shitty. the fact that she had connections with him is common too, which is another reason many rapes go unreported. not everyone is going to handle trauma the same way you do, but that doesnt make them liars

While I totally agree with the part you said about not putting yourself in a situation where consent is assumed when youre not consenting (like going with someone alone to their bedroom where the implication is youre going to get sexual if you dont want to do that) the point of the matter is if that consent is withdrawn by either party at any time, the action needs to stop. MEN and WOMEN both need to understand this. For example, if you are a chick who wants to fool around with a guy and you made this clear, but not actually have sexual intercouse and the guy keeps trying to have sex, thats not right. Also, you can have hookup sex with someone without being a "ho" - fuck that women need to be pure and virginal shit. That shit is what leads young women to be taken advantage of, not women with healthy self esteem and boundaries who want to just have sex for fun.

child of cascadia

So the guy should’ve read your mind? Is that it?

So horrific she didn’t try to stop it lol

I understand that girl was clearly co dependant and didn't know how to set healthy boundaries...... however, we have to start teaching young women that they have AGENCY and their not children. You can't EXPECT to go to a stranger man's house, you've just met, go to his private area and NOT assume consent right there. As well as, we need to teach people the hook-up cultural norm aka let's all be hoes?! Is nasty, classless, and debases ALL feminity and gender roles. Women haven't a clue how badly feminism and this sex free for all, has literally and figuratively ONLY hurt them and taken away any chance of meaningful relationships with men. They have convinced us all that the most symbiotic, life and love giving act, can be ripped out and disposed of without qualms. It's truly sick. And I can't wait until the next generation sees their whore ass parents and decides to knock it down to a more respectful level. When it will be counter cultural to actually be a virgin when you marry......Wow just think. Not treating sex like a handshake. Madness

Chasity Walraven

Being raped all over again?? That's wild because I think the opposite lol rape is horrifying her questioning was not horrifying.

In my opinion the sexual assault victim was deceptive. You don't care for someone who forcibly raped you, her reactions were unnatural. I've been robbed at gun point, and I wish a slow painful death upon the man for the stress it caused me. It's been nearly ten years and I still feel that contempt. I also remember every single detail from that day, my thought process throughout the entire day and often relive the vivid memory in my mind. It was so intense and terrifying I actually get small cases of what could possibly be classified as PTSD. I think she had a weird sexual encounter and blew it up, the intense questioning is definitely necessary in he said she said cases sexual assault cases.

That priest, "Father Bill," is a goddamned idiot. He should've been charged with negligence. BTW, who in their right mind would sleep with that creep in the first place? Yikes. And the sexual assault case. Jesus H. Christ. No wonder women don't report a sexual assault. She's being raped all over again. Don't they have any women police officers in that jurisdiction?

catbyte

Agreed. ACAB. Fuck that guy.

Did anyone else think that the cop could have stopped Johnchuck from throwing Phoebe off the bridge. It seems like he just stood and watched.

Was that first guy also charged with a shitty Wolverine-style haircut?

Omg that cop with the poor girl who was raped is a prick. How dare they

I am still in college studying Psychopathology, even with the most minute amount of training, the last subject was skillfully picked apart from the detective in a meticulous accusation of rape. Thanks for these videos Jim, your masterful commentary adds new light to the videos you post.

that rape chick was completely ridiculous. holy hell

I think that last interview was masterfully done.

Nick

That last cop seems like a prick but really he’s doing it to make her story air tight in court. But I get why women don’t come forward, that is a shitty situation to be in right after having something so horrific done to you

literally gasped and paused the video at 28:25 after the Defense Attorney had the AUDACITY to say "Everything he did.... was designed to protect Phoebe" HOW DARE SHE!!!!!!

An involuntary orgasm is not the same as being into something happening. You explained the difference in your own rant. Implying you know that the question you're upset about, and the reasoning you give for being upset about it aren't even related to each other. In my opinion, the officer is trying to to figure out the perspective of the accused person. To understand if he intended to rape, or if her body language alluded to consensual sex. Possibly to avoid a miscommunication and very unfortunate lack of response being turned into a rape charge.

It’s a mental check.

What is wrong with that last interrogator? What the fuck makes him think that asking “were you into it” is ok? The human body is known to have contradictory reactions to traumatic events, including orgasming during rape, which is often one of the many reasons victims are so badly traumatised afterwards. So even if she had, biologically speaking, been “turned on” that does not negate from the fact she was raped. Also all you idiots who think that not saying ‘no’ means the person consented really need to read up on psychology considering you’re sponsoring a psychology-oriented channel.

How much John does a Jonchuck chuck?

John John chuck. 3 first names fucks up with that?

Evil scum bag

Dyslexic so I did mean, he should be burnt on a big stick

i think he means burn him LIKE steak? doesn't make sense to mention steak otherwise rly

So should any lawyer defending him

He should be burnt at the steak

That guy who threw the little girl off the bridge should be killed by tourture, and it's immoral not to.

It's difficult because although I agree because I'm not dogmatically religious, in the Priest's eyes, God and not the Law is the more significant and eternal force.

Anybody else think the Priest who talked to the child killer made a huge mistake by not reporting him?

If you scroll down right after juvenile interrogations pt1 there is a list of links to the interrogation videos 1-7. They don’t have pictures. Just a list and short description of the video.

Rape is the most underreported crime. I hope that police do start trying different tactics to try and make it easier for the victim. I understand that false accusations happen. But it seems like psychologists and psychiatrist could offer some other ways to ensure that the victim isn’t lying. When that poor girl said that she “wanted someone to know” it broke my heart. I hope that she recovered from this since it sounds like she’s had a hard life😔

I do hope, like Jim said, that investigators now aren’t as confrontational when dealing with victims of rape or sexual assault. I understand the need to make sure that the victim is not lying but it seems like there should be better ways at accomplishing this. As a rape survivor in ‘05 I didn’t follow through after going to the hospital and talking with 2 uniformed officers. The police were actually very nice. The nurses at the hospital on the other hand were extremely rude. I was a heroin addict and they treated me like whatever happened was my fault. Anyone that deals with victims of sexual assault should be mandated to take classes on how to treat a victim. Because one wrong statement or interaction could result in the victim not following up because they feel judged and then a rapist goes free and could definitely do it again.

I want to hug that girl that got raped. Poor baby girl. She didn't quite understand he was trying to be thorough and had to ask the tough questions. She said she doesn't hate anyone, even after this. Sweet baby.

Exactly. I was raped when I was 14 and I never reported it, and told basically noone. I remember some parts of it clearly, namely him holding me down and the feeling of fear that if I resisted that he would punch me in the face because his arms were so strong holding me down and he seemed so aggressive. I freeze during traumatic incidents - it's common when you know you can't really fight or flight.

that quiet voice that dude is giving is very infuriating, trying to act smarter then the detectives lol nice try

Of all the crazy stories listening to that girl tell her story in tears was the hardest. I'm not crying you're crying.

Steven

The way the questions are being asked with the rape case, is that deliberate or does the officer really believe what he's saying and the way he's saying it? I only ask as I've been in a similar situation as the victim, and the second she started sharing her story I could tell she was being truthful. You've described freezing in fear so wonderfully before in other videos, and that's what I experienced but a lot of people don't believe me or in general that that exists, and that as I didn't say 'No' or 'Stop', that I consented. The way that officer was asking questions was really upsetting, but I'm hoping it was to ensure she was telling the truth. Thanks for the amazing content btw, I've learned a lot and I'm amazed at the content you churn out for Patreon, it's so good. x

Where is a female Officer during this very personal interrogation ?

If you can’t always hve your eyes on the content then don’t watch or wait until you have the opportunity too. Please don’t tell my mans how to do his job.

Super gay RJ

Jim will you marry me. No homo.

I can't even imagine how you begin to practice this kind of interrogation, how much of a dick you gotta feel like afterwards. Probably gets a lot easier over time thoug

Your content would really be a lot better if you paused and interjected your voice more often rather than often times just throwing in some captions or flavor text about the current situation in the video. Can't always have my eyes on the content but my ears are always listening.

that last one was hard to watch. the need for a confrontational approach to investigating sexual assault allegations makes perfect sense, but jesus christ that must be such an awful thing to have to go through. being sexually assaulted and then wholly demoralized when you try to have something done about it. it seems like this is the second time she's had to go through the process and just doesn't understand why nobody will believe her. i kept hoping he'd just tell her he believed her.

Where are all the videos in this series? I joined so I could watch them

That poor girl at the end....she's got to be like the sweetest little soul ever....I would hate to be the cop that had to drill her like that! Regardless of their tactics I still think he was a little too tough.... I mean don't get me wrong I certainly I know that there are a lot of cases where someone is falsely accused which is why tactics like this must be used but wow...

Sally Violet

Wow, what a good batch of interrogations. The last one was particularly interesting, I never knew that was a required police tactic in certain cases. I feel so bad for the girl

Forget the pen, he should do life for that beard.

He didn’t kill her with the pencil. He shoved it into her eye and then choked her to death.

That first guy is an evil John Wick, killed someone with a pencil, god damn.

I don't anyone will listen to her and think she is lying, but she isnt telling a story of her being raped, she is telling the story of her going to a guys place, didnt really want to have sex but didnt make that clear, the guy had sex with her, and she even said he probably didnt think he was raping her. she didnt fight him off, didnt say no when he was taking off her clothes or putting on a condom, she didnt try to get away, he didnt indicate that he would have hurt her if she refused, and her friend was with him, said no, and he didnt rape her. the girl was not raped. The fact that he has to pay 12,000 dollars to her is an atrocity

Holly shit!!! Do not let that first guy near a pen.

I don't think you listened the whole thing. Also she was most likely blood tested in the hospital. My guess the test was negative because if else Jim would've mention.

I don't know if you ever reported a crime but cops always act this way. And not only in the US.

Exactly. She was not raped or attacked wth. She has unresolved issues from her past. Victim of bad sex at the most. Claiming “Taken advantage of” like she was a child or something smh

Officer Vicker FROZE!!! How you let him drop the child AND get away without emptying your clip!

I love all the people complaining about the last interrogation. The girl didn't say no, watched the guy put on a condom, didn't fight, consented to kissing, wasn't sure if she was drugged, doesn't want to press charges but just wants to have free consoling. This is the reason we have so many innocent men being convicted or accused of sexual misconduct. All of you commentators are so sure that she was obviously drugged. The cop doesn't want to ruin a possible innocent man. The cop repeats over and over if what she says is the truth, and all she'll repeat back is that it's as she remembers it.

Mike keith

What the hell was with that last interrogator? Jesus.

Last one interrogator is a dick. Al I can say is poor girl. I SO get it. She's being treated very poorly. Did he ever stop to think she could have been given a sedative or date rape drug. Hence the fuzzy memory. Jesus this is the reason women don't talk. My Lord he's tormenting her. Literally tormenting her. Horrible cop

You should always report criminals. Its not a guarantee that they'll be convicted or that the conviction will prevent them offending further, but no threat of punishment at all will teach them that they can get away with it. We don't shame people who are victims of acid attacks. We shouldn't shame people who are victims of rape. Letting the real perpetrators get away with it is a problem.

Sounds like a Patreon problem. I'd try to get in contact with them.

I sure as shit wouldn't. The interrogation plus the fact that you'll get a reputation as a slut and a liar, plus the potential reprisals from him, plus having to think about it every day for years while there is a trial, plus the fact that you're female and just having had a penis inside you always means some amount of shame, hell no. Easier to try and forget and move on.

Fair enough. Please keep in mind that there are also selfish and rotten males out there who do actually rape people, and we need to find a way to stop them from doing that, which means we need to find a way of screening real victims that doesn't deter them from reporting. Ok? Can we agree on that? Those males aren't making your sex look so good either. Presently 63% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police. How can we lower that number?

They are rare.

Hearing this from a male warms the heart. Thank you. <3

She wanted to leave because he was making it clear that he thought she was lying. Ask the questions, sure, but muttering "yeah" when she says no one believes her? Scoffing at her? There was no need for that childishness. He took every available opportunity to let her know he thought she was lying.

Oof the last interview with the victim is why I never said anything about what happened to me.

why can't I see this I have joined at the 10 dollars a month, changed password three times as instructed. New password accepted to sign in I am at my wit's end pls address. Love your content but not paying for something I cannot see

i can't sit through that man questioning the girl who got attacked... his tone is so .... condescending ... like he doesn't care at all

"HOW COULD YOU THROW A CHILD OVER A BRIDGE?" is THE millions dollar question .... literally exactly what i was thinking the entire time i listened to that story smh

Oh fuck the patriarchy. The singular piece of evidence is the word of the accuser against the word of the accused in a burglary or stickup and we don't see this kind of gleeful, methodical humiliation of the victim. He's re-traumatizing a trauma victim who was re-traumatized the night before. And he has no idea it why doesn't add up, why her narrative is jumbled or why there are missing parts and he wants her to explain it to him. What is the matter with this godforsaken country. We must demand trauma-informed police departments if more than two out of 10 sexual assaults will actually be reported someday.

For the guy at the end, I understand and actually respect his techniques to MAKE SURE. We can't allow this #metoo movement to take away justice and common sense. Especially when she didn't actually say "NO!" However, I don't think he needed to go that long with it and should have used that intuition thing, Jim was talking about in another vid. I just hope she is not permanently damaged from him going too far.

the last one hurts. that cop did not understand rape trauma in the slightest. she was obviously, if not drugged, completely dissociated from the situation and did not consent. no body can tell me that you can not to hear it in her voice/words when she speaks of it. i really hope she doesn't repress any traumatic experiences that happen in her life after this. i agree with the post above, i really hope a better system is implicated soon.

The last interrogation made me cry, I understand the reasoning for the harsh questioning but it was really hard to watch. I hope she's okay and I hope a better system of enquiry for rape victims is implicated soon.

Well, of course he has to go into the details and figure out if she really has been raped or not. And if she's all like "Well, I've been raped but I don't know, I don't want to be here and I will repeatedly accuse you of disbelief instead of answering your questions." then no wonder he gets more direct in his questions.

Of course cops are wary of rape claims now, so many have been proven to be false

"to seal the deal so you wouldn't get pregnant?.." ... the "deal?" how awful

Just signed up and love everything JCS but that bloke accusing the girl of lying about being raped is an absolute piece of A grade shit. Fuck him. Trying to coax some kind of hostility out of her and she's just desperate to get away. I hope he got reprimanded up to his fucking arse and hope what's left of his hair falls out immediately (even though it was 2012).

Bro that officer is AN ASSHOLE! It's clear she's been raped and he's making it seem like she asked for it or was ok with it. OF COURSE SHE MAY HAVE INCONSISTENCIES, she had JUST BEEN RAPED the previous day! Asshole...man. Great video though Jim.

Shadow Kosmos

I feel the exact same way!

I find The fact the first guy keeps stabbing peoples eyes strangely fascinating as to why he repeatedly chooses that method of hurting people.

And you actually believe this moron? I am all for castrating rapists and feel absolute sympathy for those that had to endure the unimaginable horror of rape , but it's women like this that completely screw it up for all others.

Jon K

What's with the first dude and stabbing people's eyes out with writing utensils?

What's up with that dude stabbing people in their eyes? Good Lord above

Wow that last one really was hard to watch, but she stayed strong under all that stress and pressure. I feel so sorry for anyone who’s had to go through this, and for people who aren’t believed or too scared to tell what happened.

Don't let that fucking guy near a pencil, Jesus Christ.

How scary to think Austin was out “hunting” before but just never acted upon it, where another little girl or another woman could have been killed. How can defense teams try to defend people like that. It’s hard to fathom the evil things that happen to people every day at the same time that we go on with our own lives like nothing has happened.

Not a compelling prosecutor imo... 'You drop a child who cannot swim off a 60-70 foot bridge, who cannot swim'.... like swimming would have saved her. 'in cold frigid waters' - like warm water would have saved her. "That's aggravated child abuse" No that's murder and you are confusing your jury ... at least they found him guilty

I think that she's lying her ass off.

Two new episodes coming on Wednesday 5pm ET, Amber. Sorry for the delay and thanks for the support x

I check this page religiously & feel a deep sadness when there isn't new content. Glad JCS is so good that I can rewatch the old videos & still enjoy.

Amber White

So hungry for more <3

Conor

I totally agree. It was high profile, but no one analyzed it better than Jim. I saw a short documentary about the Wattts case on discovery ID recently, and Jim's presentation blew it out of the water. I'd love to see more high profile series

It's crowning.

Jon.

I usually feel it in my bones when a birth is close. I get an actual ache inside. It's not yet.

This weekend will not be complete without an update from Jim

Jure Kralj

When's the next bruh??

I feel like you probably won’t see this Jim but seeing as you produce such high quality content in this field, i’m surprised you’ve not covered more interrogations of people who have been coerced. Central Park five is back in the media again. Think it would be a fantastic watch. Much love from the uk. Best dollar (or pound?) i’ve Ever spent 😂☺️

That last one was hard to watch. It was interesting, though, to see the comparison of a truthful response after seeing so many liars on this channel. I hope that girl is okay.

What a fucking comment section we have this time around! God damnnn people.

David vodenlich

Why isnt it a female questionning the last lady. He was far too hardline , theres a way of questionning that is both sensitive and will help her in court theyre both important elements.

Jim, you´re the best. This is the first time I have ever felt the need to support someone on patreon.

Last one was tough to watch but fascinating nonetheless. It's rough but personally I think that type of approach necessary tbh, especially when it's your word against their word type situation

Who keeps giving this guy pencils?

Bloody typos

Jim so rude to ask I know but i wondered if you could do another one on a high profile case. I really enjoyed the Chris Watts series. I know the high profile stuff normally gets all the attention but I do find it interestumg all the same. Thank you xxxx love all your stuff btw

Didn't believe I could love you anymore......😊

The legend Jim back at it again

love u jim!

Dearest Jim: will there be a marvelous new video in the near future? LOVE your work....you’re truly amazing at what you do, please keep it up for all of your devoted fans. I never knew the value of a dollar until I joined your Patreon. Cheers!!!!

that last one had me thinking. I would like to see some false rape accusations on the next, The Most Compelling Police Interrogations pt. 10

Ahirix

That final interrogation is heartbreaking. The detective needs some serious training on dealing with sexual assault victims. Whether he believes her or not, he was incredibly awful to a very scared child.

Amber White

Moral of the first story, don't give that guy a pencil or you get John Wicked

"Thank you for telling me that Mark" that detective is a great actor lol. That guys story about killing that girl was possibly the worst lie I've heard in a while

“Omg like wow just wow like are you kidding me like wow just wow”

He believes her. Everything he is doing will help her in court.

I shudder reading some of those comments about the last one how it was or not "rape", like wow - how can someone not get that? Chilling.

That cop at the end is just disgusting. She is clearly telling the truth. Can't believe that scumbag

does anyone know the name of the interrogator

I went back and watched it again, just in case you were correct. But you’re not. By her own words she never said no. But that doesn’t mean she wasn’t traumatized. I’m just saying the guy didn’t do anything illegal. But we all know he is a shithead.

Huh? Read that back. What is your point again?

officer should have jumped in after the girl immediately after he reported what had happened. there is no other appropriate response

You really put some feelings in me with the last case of the rape victim... it is such a sensitive subject and I can understand the girls frustration and the cop’s suspicion...I have so much hate towards rapists that I wish a cruel sentence could be given to them ... they leave permanent marks on their victims

getting a lot more Canada stories than USA

You spoil us, Jim! Thanks a lot for another great video!

Hella White knights in these comments, come on guys, let's remain empirical and objective. We can certainly not give our full opinion on these videos because of the frame we are being presented as well as not being involved in the actual investigation. That is for both the people saying the rape happened as well as didn't.

That last one was hard to watch. Poor girl. There were a lot of things alluded to that we never got the details to, it's hard to make a firm judgement. Props to him for showing complex these cases can be (nobody wants to end an innocent person to jail or a mostly innocent person to a huge sentence) but at the same time, a lot was left out on this one.

She said no to his advances to kissing, she moved away from him, she tried to push him off of her, she bled from the painful and dry penetration. Sounds like rape to me.

I can see both sides on this. But at the end of the day, even though the female seems genuine, and she seems legitimately freaked out, scared, etc. etc. that doesn’t give her the right to pin her fear and anxiety on someone else. She put herself in the situation and it was a bad decision. I’m not saying the guy is an angel, I’m just saying he shouldn’t go to jail. He probably is a piece of shit but not in a court of law. I can tell this girl is not lying, and I feel sorry for her, genuinely, but this is not rape. The guy deserves punishment in the form of social ostracization from his community. But beyond that it’s not criminal.

I am a female who can only agree with the ‘boy who cried wolf’ phenomena that you’re referring to, but as a person with eyes and ears, I can’t even begin to agree with you that this woman wasn’t raped. I’m sure if you got hit by a car, you never consented to being hit by a car so in turn, you must’ve been saying yes to being hit by car. That’s a poor example but I could probably think of a million scenarios that could serve as an example that you could understand. I’m sure that other people (not just women) can have a motive to falsely accuse someone of sexual assault (or any crime), but for someone who has no connection to the offender, she has absolutely nothing to gain. If she’d only known his address and never knew his name, she could see criminal records and scan past the offender’s name without knowing who assaulted her. I know my comment is long winded but that’s my opinion in response to YOUR opinion. Sorry if I sound like one of these so called ‘white knights(?)’ that you’re referring to. I heavily associate with the term keyboard warrior for future reference 😏

“Did you say no?” “No” “Did you resist in any way?” “No” “Do you think, at any time, he thought he was raping you?” “No” This wasn’t rape. Plain and simple. Regardless of how the woman ‘felt’ about it (at the time or afterwards), there was no way for the man to know that she was not consenting. Poor guy got drunk and hooked up with a girl who turned out to have extreme emotional issues and now he’s out 10k and his entire reputation. Also, to all of the feminists and white knights in the comments, your indignation should not be towards the police, but towards women who falsely accuse and the almost total lack of punishment they get for doing so.

I understand why almost all rapes (real rapes) aren't reported. The male interrogator was doing his job, but in such an accusing way, makes me cringe.

Dammit, Jim, I'm a Youtube viewer, not a swim coach. Seriously, great work as usual. Your videos keep getting better, so what you have to yet make is probably going to blow my mind. I'm surprised the various tv networks and the HuluFlixZon universe haven't snatched you up yet.

or maybe guys that rape when drunk shouldnt drink. wouldnt that be safer?

That last one was god damned horrible to watch...

I echo this sentiment. I was infuriated watching this last one it really hit home having been in a similar situation to this girl and your girlfriend. I also decided not to even file it. I understand they’re making slow progress in some situations for example here in the UK vulnerable victims are going to be given “justice support dogs” to stroke to help keep them calm in police interviews however it is still a LONG way off from where it needs to be.

The interview of the rape victim really hit home for me. I had a girlfriend who was raped one night while we were together and I went with her to file the report. The way the police brush you off and make you feel like a liar and a piece of shit for coming forth is infuriating. I wanted to punch that prick right in the mouth I swear. I've never been more enraged in my life. I get why they approach it that way to weed out false allegations but it also makes REAL rape victims drop charges or not even file reports because they know going in to it that they're going to be treated like they're liars and garbage. Absolutely infuriating and it caused my girlfriend at the time to not pursue it any further because they made her feel almost as bad as the raping itself did. Things like that are why people in poorer and disenfranchised communities don't trust or talk to the police at all and then they wonder why the community doesn't cooperate with them.

I'm sure you know better than a trained proffessional... You can't make it too easy for people to accuse people of crimes.

yes jim good job very nice

The part where the investigating officer is questioning the rape victim - that was some of the most emotionally wrenching footage I've ever watched. The police interrogation between that man and the two female detectives - that was great. Those are two tough women right there. Amazing video, Jim. Thank you for sharing these.

Hey Jim, since a lot of people here in the comments does not seem to understand how the freeze response works in victims of sexual assault/rape, may I suggest making a video about it? What happens in the brain of someone being sexually abused, what different responses can happen and why. I think your audience could use some education on the matter. :)

Where is part 8?

Freezing up is anormal and common response to sexual assault and rape. If you're trying to have sex with a person or otherwise get intimate and they freeze/tense up and are not actively participation you need to STOP. It's that simple. Err on the side of caution and check in with the person. Talk to them, ask if they're ok, if they want to continue. If not met with an entusiastic yes, then STOP. Read their body language! It's really that simple.

She stated she was BLEEDING afterwards, so obviously she was dry down there. If a woman just lays there without doing or saying anything that is not giving consent! Are you really saying the rapist was in the clear because she was not saying anything? Freezing is a NORMAL and COMMON respone. If someone you're about to have sex with freezes, you need to STOP. Come on, read some body language ffs!

Check this excellent piece out about it from the Saint Pete Times... http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2016/features/the-long-fall-of-phoebe-jonchuck/

Best one yet

That last cop pissed me off. Another indication that the girl isn’t lying is the fact that she froze up. People like her who are victimized in the past (by her grandpa) freeze up when being victimized again. Come on now officer. Quit being a such a dick

Thank you Jim!!! More great work

Chloe Peterson

Thank god for crimes right, or we wouldn't have entertaining content...

Not My Real Name

“Mental fortitude”??

Tia Benedict

To be honest when someone is accused of a crime, i think a bit of pressure on the accuser for exact details is a must. Or else how will the investigation really and fairly move forward?

She did meth with him

Not My Real Name

I almost gagged when I heard that. Absolute horseshit.

The first guy pisses me off so much... substance abuse ugh... ill never understand

Last interrogation was so immensely heartbreaking. No wonder most rapes go unreported if this is what it's always been like.

sa.artist

the issue here isn't her. she shouldn't have to yell at him to stop, he's a grown man and she clearly told him no before and was probably detached from the situation once it was happening. he should be held accountable for not resisting his 'urges'.

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I remember hearing about Phoebe, but even living in Florida i havent seen this much coverage

This is absolutely the best crime show series I've ever watched.. on tv or internet. The best right here on Jim C. Swim.

The psychiatrist giving his professional view of the defendant's state of mind seems kind of ...mental himself. But I like it that his opinion was favorable to a guilty verdict. Just my little opinion.. if a father who "loves his daughter better than anyone in the world" can throw her off a 70 foot bridge to her icy cold drowning death .. what would he do to me and you? He deserves immediate death by injection whether or not premeditation is involved... he's a dangerous threat to every human being in his path. ___________The raped girl.. totally annoyed me. They have a bite mark on her chest. Hello she cannot bite her own chest. Blood in her panties.. and he treats her like she made the whole thing up. I want to reach through the screen and slap him.

1:04:24 << The pos interrogator just said it is very difficult to rape a woman that doesn’t want it. Srsy, that guy is a 24K asshole and has no business in this line of employment.

When I say no to kissing it is code for OMG JUST PUT IT IN ME ALREADY. Sorry for the confusion, guys!

Nooooo doubt.. pencils and eye sockets, definitely his M.O.

She probably isn't lying when she says she didn't want to, but she did not express that to him. Hard past makes it tough.. 😢

Girls need to express clearly that they are not consenting. Guys not a mind reader. Laying there passively, even if terrified in her own mind, how would he know to stop.

Thanks for your effort in these videos, as my only patron its a great way to support your work.

I do feel bad when listening to the last girl but man you really can’t blame the guy in that situation .. she even said he was trying to get with her friend and when she said no he stopped . I don’t think if she said no he would of raped her . Is horrible but at some point we need to teach people they need to say no and resist or do something . There has to be a definitive way to say if something was rape

The last interview is really confusing, in most rape or sexual assault cases its really hard to get to the bottom of it. There were alot of loopholes in her story I don't really know whether to believe her or not, the fact she said no before sexual intercourse but during it didnt resist or try to say no doesnt look very good for her. Anyone else have any input on this? I see too many rape/sexual assault cases where the perpetrator plays the victim or the opposing party gets blamed for something they didnt do. Cases like this ruin lives

I live in the TB Area, and Jonchuck case hit home a little too close for me in more ways than one, pun also intended. My daughter resembled Phoebe when she was that age, I went through lots of divorce/custody hearings, my family is studded with mental illness, and I drive over all those bridges several times a week. I am so grateful Florida finally put together a highly competent prosecution team when it mattered most. The closing argument of the state shown the your video was brilliant, and honest, and cut through all the b.s. Thanks for including it.

You said Jennifer around 42:00 but the victims name was Jessica. Not trying to be a dick but you are always on point so that threw me off.

I hate when I forget to say No to every part of the sexual activity and get rapped... These comments about not making your self clear are insane!!!! My god how about you fucking stop for 5 seconds and see what’s going on in the other person’s head before pushing forward!!!! Talk to the person instead of only doing what your dick wants and hoping for the best

she said no repeatedly, and when he didn't listen to her she said nothing. consent is a vocal and continuous "yes".

How about if I say no you stop ask more questions before you continue forward. A real man does that! I slept at my now husbands house on our first date. II was alone with him I didn’t want to do anything more then kissing and he stopped when I asked even offered to sleep on the couch. I spent the night because we had been drinking and couldn’t drive home. He didn’t make me feel like I owed him something and no one ever should. No one should have to tell you more then once to stop. You hear me and it’s you who decide if you want to listen. It normally takes more then one night before you learn if someone likes kissing or not and honestly 95% of people who say they don’t like kissing is because the other person they are with is a bad kisser! It’s insane to me that anyone would automatically assume someone saying no to kissing means they just don’t like kissing! That doesn’t make any fucking sense. Normally on the first date if your kissing and the person doesn’t like kissing then some sort of explanation is often given so you don’t offend the person! The fact that you automatically think all woman are constantly playing a mind games or mental gymnastics in anyway especially in the bedroom on the first night for that matter is a bull shit excuse to make not listing to the word NO justifiable. I have never in my life heard someone say no to kissing but mentally mean yes to everything else! If I say no and I ask you to stop, STOP BE A MAN AND STOP

I realize my comment can sound that way out of context if someone didn’t actually watch the last interrogation. Based on how the victim described it, one could have interpreted her response of “not saying anything” as permissiveness. I’m not blaming her for what happened, I’m am saying she should communicate because miscommunication is the root of most problems (i.e. this one here imo)

That's some pretty extreme victim blaming there.

For the last interrogation , I feel for her as the victim, I’m certain that what she went through was excruciating. Though, I also don’t think the guy is only one at fault here either. Women do tend to play hard to get and it’s a sequence of “no, no, no, okay yes”, purposely contructed by some women to make guys work for it. So the guy could have thought that this was one of those situations. She should learn from this situation to make sure that she communicates her denial more clearly because it’s not just her life that depends on it. And he should take home the lesson of being more responsive to denial especially when it’s right before sex. In my opinion both parties are at fault.

Jimbo! I’ve watched all your videos, litterally...all of them. Thank you for producing quality videos. I fall asleep to murder interrogations and I’m loving it

you're an idiot.

The last girl is a product of indefinite action. You may ask what I mean by that, and its mostly a product of women more-so than men. Basically, she admits that the other girl turned said person down after she said no, and that "she originally said no to kissing but nothing else." Now the issue with this is, is that in the heat of a moment and how different people are, its hard to definitively define what they mean when you're messing around with them and they say no to something but still allow something else to go on, guys dont just statue-up as soon as they hear the word no. So due to her "indefinite action" of not saying "NO, STOP" immediately as the person progressed, it becomes a morality issue of her knowing she allowed it to happen, but second guesses it, whether it be shame or some other personal reason. This is why men nowadays are frightened of the #metoo movement too. She said no to kissing, but further pursuit of sexual behavior was okay? You understand this if you've ever met a person that dislikes kissing, that this is the reason it pushed further, she admits the guy didn't continue sexually on the other chick but she allowed it and now wants to cry that it was "rape." I hope she DOES report situations and learns how to actually decide if somethings for her or not. But seriously, ladies, this is a big big problem. If you want something make it clear, if you dont, please, please make it clear. I know myself included, women are VERY hard to play mental gymnastics with, I've gotten so tired of it that I've even let opportunities pass by and basically opened myself up to being part of shit talk for being a coward or something just because I got so tired of the head games and trying to read someone elses mind lol. So please, dont be like this girl, dont make a decision or be indecisive and completely regret it and cry to the police and end up ruining someone elses life because you made a decision that you had clear awareness of and didn't take the out, and please always stand up and report actual people that will not take no for an answer so no one else gets harmed. Also I just wanna make it clear that I'm basing this off of her saying "I said no while kissing" then later when she got really hard towards the interrogator she said "I said no multiple times" that inconsistency is very big and definitely is hard to just throw the papers down and be like "ALRIGHT WE GOT EM" and especially if that were really the case, why care more for persons well being than your own if it was a forced action, they didnt care about you so why care about them? Double standards definitely doesn't help make it convincing...

I hate it when I accidentally stab someone. That's the worst.

Well put. Appreciate reading your thoughts.

wow keep that first guy from fucking pencils geez

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I feel for the last girl but honestly if you go out and drink you have to understand that some men will try to take advantage. Some will try to drug you some will try to rape you, it's just the way it is. Be aware and drink very little from your own sealed bottles or drink no alcohol at all.

That Cop saying "If a female doesn't want to have sex it's really hard for a male to force her" (paraphrasing) is full of shit.

Yeah, that last interview is really tough to watch., I'm glad Jim put it in though so we can all have a discussion about it. I feel like that detective felt really bad when she started going on about how no one believes her because he was being confrontational. But it seems for him to figure out whether she's telling the truth or not is TO BE confrontational, to throw off a would-be liar. But he can't just be like "ok sorry that was a test to see if you are a liar" after it, or else it would ruin the whole point of the questioning, while also making her feel horrible she was thought of as a liar. He has to keep prodding, just like he would in a normal police interrogation, just in case she IS a really good liar or something like that. Obviously though from her point of view as a victim, she's going to see it as another extremely stressful situation from another person that doesn't believe her no matter how hard she pleads, thinking the system is failing her. I feel like he really tried to let her know what was going on when he re-emphasized the "misunderstanding" line. However, the right of being innocent until proven guilty is too important to just give up for these unfortunate circumstances. It's a really tough situation for everyone, and hopefully people smarter than us can come up with a better questioning tactic that can still suss out fakers while still protecting and assuring victims that the system IS working, even if in court scumbags sometimes get off easy.

It broke me and made me cry when the last victim said that she wouldnt ever say anything about a sexual assault again because no one would believe her. I get "innocent until proven guilty" but people use the upper hand of "she didnt fight" as a defense in these situations. You cant ever say what you would do in a situation like that unless you have gone through it, some people just freeze up and dont say no or fight because they're scared. Fear makes people do things that are unusual or out of character or otherwise unreasonable to an outsider looking in.

@42:05, says ‘Jennifer’ instead of ‘Jessica’.

I swear the Flordia detective sounds just like Jane Lynch!

Dear Jim, very interesting video. There are some interesting ideas that I think you would find interesting. A video examining the different criteria by not guilty by reason of insanity at the state levels. Perhaps there are videos of interrogations in both states where both instances were ruled not guilty of insanity. Thanks!

I've been a part of your YouTube channel forever! So excited to be a patreon now! I swear, I think I have watched every single video on your YouTube, some two times!!! I'm so excited for new ones you put such work and dedication in each!

Wow, this was a big one. I really don't agree with the detective's method of judging the victim to the point where she said she would never confess to experiencing anything like this again. It was painful to watch. I feel for her. Whether the consequences issued to the suspect are severe enough is uncertain to me. I think she should have been compensated with much, much more if he had that little personal impact given to him

Kiara Hanna

The clips at 45 min yeah my wife always takes baths with her clothes on what an idiot that guy is. And his fake crying and trying to sound super soft spoken just pissss me off

I live in St.Petersburg, seeing Johns face makes me sick every time. Our city is beautiful and he doesn’t deserve to ever breathe air again. My heart breaks for Michelle, watching her shake on camera was hard.

That last interview was both compelling and the method was necessary. An accusation of sexual assault is very serious and can potentially ruin the personal life on the receiving end of such accusations. Maybe having two interrogators in the room, one for support and one for questioning would be a better method 🤷🏻‍♂️

Lee Sewall

Right! When they mentioned the Scrabble attack I shouted, "Who keeps giving this guy pencils?!"

ann

in the description, it says 1 2 3 5 6. u forgot 4.

Jordan Maze

He had a nice bud plant growing by where he put her body.

JJ. You are a good and insightful soul with some hard-earned and valuable wisdom. I share your queries regarding where the victimization begins and ends and why/how the legal system fails in so many ways to handle/manage/prosecute these specific kind of crimes. I wrote a paper on it decades ago - how the word "testimony" means "I swear on my testes" (which precludes the female's veracity) and how the anatomy of a female victim makes the crime seem "vague" to both the perp and the victim... there is, I believe, a true new awareness of how victims of sexual assault can/are re-victimized by the process but the healing, sadly, cannot make justice part of the equation in the same way victims of other crimes can... In any event, you ARE contributing to the larger discussion and end result by your willingness to look at it and ask questions. I wish you well!

J D

Always makes my day, woohoo! Thanks jim!

I just finished the last interrogation - I (and others I know) have been on the receiving end of false and potentially damaging accusations by females and I know the pain and ostracisation that comes from psychotic women who use every tool at their disposal because they don't get the attention or toys that they want. I'm REALLY glad that law doesn't just believe every bit of bullshit that is fed to them - as I certainly didn't feel like it at the time. I almost lost my job and social circle but thankfully I had "banked enough time with them" for them to truly know me. If anyone is angry at REAL victims being treated like criminals you can thank your fellow females for sowing distrust and relying on men's natural reaction to "white knight" everything. Even now, knowing as I do know about how females can effortlessly manipulate the male psyche, I still soldier on as I know there are FAR more real and trustworthy women than there are selfish and rotten ones. That being said, everyone should be safe out there AND still enjoy life.

Luke

mate, you're a legend. Keep it up (from down in Melbourne).

OMG- Thank you SOOOOO much for these FANTASTIC videos :) You put soooo much work in them and I just want to say thank you. I also feel bad for you to be immersed in such potentially damaging stuff on your (you can't look into the darkness without the darkness looking into you). I hope to God (or whoever) you are able to clense yourself of this negative energy to keep yourself sane but still supply such fantastic material to us all. Thank you :)

Luke

Incredibly compelling. Thank you

Uh, maybe because of her ridiculous answers ya think?

Jon K

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Marcus

My sister had an almost 100% identical incident to the last interrogation. Similar tactics, same story. I took her to the hospital after it happened, I drove her to the police station and sat with her until three in the morning. The entire process took 12 hours from start to finish. Every hour or so I’d hear her break into tears and it made my heart wrench. All I did was encourage her to do what she thought was right, I made no attempt to pressure her into making a decision on how to handle this because it wasn’t right for me to take that ability away from her. After the interrogation was over I drove her home, bought some whiskey, got a hotel room two blocks away, and drank until about 6am, crying intermittently in the silence of my $78/night room. All she told me was that she didn’t say no because she was afraid of what he might do. In much a similar way to how this young woman the same age as my sister described it. These are no doubt invasive and tough questions. The anguish one must experience when undergoing this process is unimaginable and both my sister and this girl maintained their composure beyond what I could ever imagine. In my sisters case the female detective handling the investigation forced her to drop the case and berated her “mental weakness,” and “inability to do what she knew was right in her own defense because of misplaced fear.” I had taken her to the police station to sign papers agreeing to drop the charges. She was met in the lobby by two female detectives and they openly discussed her case without any regard to who was around us. She was unable to function for days after this encounter and all I could do was simmer in frustration and this unprofessional and frankly cruel conduct. I’ve listened countless times to my siblings laments about what could’ve been different had she only said no. To this day I’m still unable to offer her solace, which I painfully accept isn’t mine to give. Through this process my sister and I have discussed slowly where the fault lies, and at what point (if any) “victim blaming” as seen here is necessary in extracting the truth and determine the severity of a crime. These events took place four months ago and she is slowly getting back to normal and has been growing stronger by the day. For this I’m glad and thankful. I still lay awake at night thinking about this process and how excessive it is without trying to project my own experiences into the validity of this interrogation technique. I wonder what constitutes rape and what the responsibility of a victim is. I don’t have any opinions on these things beyond thinking in circles about what other people share. After all I didn’t go through this. I’ve had experience with sexual abuse too but I was a child and never reported it so my story is different. It’s not my place to form opinions on this. I don’t know why I’m writing this or why I kept watching but I want Jim to know that I’m glad he was able to present this in the most objective way possible without slamming either person with irrelevant opinions. Regardless of how sad and nauseated I feel right now I know we must watch and discuss these things in an open forum to reach whatever optimal lesson is there to learn. Stay safe everyone, be kind to those you love and try not to let your feelings one way or the other get in the way of a discussion that needs to be had by everyone in society.

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As a survivor of molestation that poor woman was being 100% honest and watching that guy drag her across the coals smh. That douche detective is CRINGE-WORTHY! Way to make her feel raped again you POS! 'Nuff said....

Denyse Van Leuven

The release of the tape of that outrageous interrogation hopefully resulted in an overhaul of RCMP practices. That was brutal.

that last interrogation was rough

Couldn't finish the last interrogation. Had to skip to the end. I cannot imagine being either of those two. To be berated and doubted over what is very clearly a truthful statement is absolutely horrid but I also cannot fathom being the officer trained to sit there and do that to someone. That must take some serious mental fortitude and willpower to apply on someone. Throughout a few parts it really felt like he was hesitating continuing.

i hope the young rape victim in the last interrogation is doing alright. god that was hard to watch.

Why are the cops treating that poor girl like that. God no wonder most rapes go unreported.

Do NOT give this fucker a pencil.

So excited that you covered John Jonchuck! This case is especially disturbing to me because she died by negligence- there were COUNTLESS opportunities to recognize that Phoebe was in danger with her dad. Her death inspired necessary reform with CPS but sadly it's too late. If anyone is interested in reading more "The Long Fall of Phoebe Jonchuck" by Lane DeGregory is an amazing investigative narrative on the whole thing.

nice one Jimbo, many kisses and Miranda rights xoxo

Do you listen to sword and scale Jim?

Connor H

Another great video! It must be so hard not to roll your eyes when these interrogators see someone pretending to act insane.

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Made my day that you posted! Time to paint and listen

AllieDrawsArt

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Thank you so much for including the footage of the prosecutor at 13:40! As a law student, it's really interesting to see how the facts of the case are explained to the jury, and the strategies and story telling tactics utilized. Awesome video as always JCS

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Samantha Braden

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Keep 'em comin!

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