Andor 2x07 Reaction
Added 2026-01-29 19:38:59 +0000 UTC
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I have been desperately awaiting your reaction to Andor 2x8 and 2x9 for months now, and the moment is finally nearly upon us.
Thomas Smith
2026-01-31 22:27:16 +0000 UTC“The real test of a man is not when he plays the role that he wants for himself but when he plays the role destiny has for him.” ― Vaclav Havel
Thomas Fahey
2026-01-31 00:44:14 +0000 UTCi think about that quote often
LM Reactions
2026-01-31 00:29:00 +0000 UTCSurprised nobody has pointed out that the rebel base (Yavin) is where Andor was stranded earlier this season, with the dumb kids fighting over bullshit. So while there's still disagreement and infighting, we've come a long way lol.
Payam Sharifi
2026-01-31 00:21:28 +0000 UTCThey remind me of that guy in Severance who finds the baby. "I AM THE ONE WHO GAVE YOU THE INFO NUGGET LM! ME! MEEEEE!"
Michael M
2026-01-30 19:56:39 +0000 UTCI really wish people would resist the urge to type out a wookiepedia article every time L&M wonder about something that will be made clear to them if they keep watching
Joshua Something
2026-01-30 19:14:33 +0000 UTCFind an old bottle of the 1980's formula NyQuil. Specifically the Green Ass Flavor. It's one shot per 3 days coma, so 2.33 shots should do it.
Michael M
2026-01-30 17:03:56 +0000 UTC"It was not Hitler or Himmler who abducted me, beat me, shot my family. It was the shoemaker, the milkman, the neighbour, who received a uniform and then believed they were the master race."
Michael Rashid
2026-01-30 15:23:04 +0000 UTCGreat discussions as always! Not sure whether they noticed that the bellhop from the hotel was also at the Ghorman Front meeting. Makes sense given his history. Regarding the force, I think at this point the series has repeatedly hinted at Bix being force sensitive. Visions in dreams are something force sensitive people can have. In season 1 episode 12 when Cassian frees her from prison she says "I dreamt you came back. You climbed over a wall." The climbing could refer to multiple things Cassian did in season 1 (flying out of Aldhani; getting out of prison; moving around Ferrix). Here again she says, "I've had dreams like that", about what the force healer said, Cassian being a messenger. Being force sensitive would mean something like Milena suggested, like a strong instinct I guess, whereas people like Luke or Darth Vader who are strong with the force can use it do stuff.
Biberius Caldius Mero
2026-01-30 10:48:19 +0000 UTCTo try and explain the Force without giving away too many spoilers (Idk if you guys are going to watch any other Star Wars content in the future): Think of the Force as an invisible energy field that surrounds, penetrates, and holds the entire galaxy together. It's something natural that's everywhere. We can think of it as an invisible river flowing through everything. Most people, like Cassian, just float in it, but there are a few people in this universe who are more "sensitive" to it current than others. These individuals can sense the Force, and with that they have enhanced abilities and are capable to do things that ordinary people are incapable of doing. Following the logic of seeing the Force as an invisible river flowing through everything, these people more sensitive to the Force can learn to "swim" or control this current to change things around them. To try and explain it even more simply, briefly and without giving spoilers: The Force is the "magic" of Star Wars.
Floweyyyy
2026-01-30 10:08:32 +0000 UTCThe scene with the force healer always gives me chills it’s so well written. The way Cassian is disturbed by the notion of the force being a real thing and how he plays a role in the will of the force is so interesting to me. Fantastic episode as are all episodes of this show!
Jesse S
2026-01-30 08:38:36 +0000 UTCSyril's world view can be summarized as devotion to order. He is shown to have OCD in his home but he also wants order in the world. His allegiance is to the law not morality. He doesn't question if a law or an action is right or wrong. He sees it through the lens of does it comply with the existing order of things. It is very subtle but in this season you can see that given Syril's historical (from his very first appearance in Ep 1) affinity for fashion, he has some fondness for Ghorman culture. What this does is create tension between two systems of order. Order for the Ghor means successful fabric sales, flourishing trade and tourism. Syril believes that his Empire style order is on the planet to further Ghor order which is only being disrupted by outside agitators.
John Herrick
2026-01-30 08:17:42 +0000 UTCDon't know if you caught it, but when Cassian checked into the hotel on Ghorman posing as a journalist, he was told by the hotel staff that all journalists require Imperial approval. It isn't just censoring a free press, it's making sure the stories the Empire wants to tell are the ones that get reported. It is critical to their plan. Has been since the first episode of this season, where at the meeting to discuss Ghorman one of the lackeys from the Ministry of Enlightenment discussed "weaponizing this Galactic opinion." It's the same with all authoritarian governments. They need to control the news. The Force in the Star Wars universe is an energy field generated by all living things. Certain individuals are sensitive to this energy field to a greater or lesser degree, while still others are able to manipulate it. One of the ways it can be manipulated is to heal injuries.
Joseph Olson
2026-01-30 05:38:08 +0000 UTCAgree
Clay F
2026-01-30 05:17:05 +0000 UTCWho are you?
david p
2026-01-30 04:59:47 +0000 UTCWhy kill Dedra? Why NOT kill Dedra? She is the devil, and dangerous to boot. Nothing Wilmon said at the beginning of the episode was wrong and they have intelligence that tells them she frequently wanders out into public
Joshua Something
2026-01-30 03:17:25 +0000 UTCWow, a lot of inaccuracies lol. First of all, I think the word you're looking for is "relevant". You hope Andor doesn't continue to be relevant to current events. It's semantics, obviously, but I would argue that even if we survive this nightmare, we should never forget that it happened. These works should remain important because the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Hoping for the death of fascism is fool's gold. Second of all, oppressive systems have existed LONG before the 1920's lol. I don't know where the hell you're coming from there.
Joe Joe
2026-01-30 03:03:30 +0000 UTCPoint of disagreement: I sure hope Andor *isn't* timeless. I think of Andor the way I think of 1984 -- we can imagine a world where systematic, organized, tech-enabled oppression has become such a historical footnote that Andor's "timeless" lessons become merely quaint. We hope we'll one day live in a world where 1984 stops speaking to us with urgency and becomes a historical curiosity--like the stories of Washington Irving and William Austin. For me, "timeless" stories describe human foibles, neuroses, and limitations that would exist anywhere, and could belong to anyone, regardless of when the tale is told. Despite being a period piece, Mad Men delivers a kind of timeless storytelling. Men like Don Draper have always existed and always will, regardless of historical context. Governments like The Galactic Empire have only existed since the 1920s. The kinds of feelings these governments arouse in characters like Andor and Luthen would not make sense to a medieval knight or an ancient Egyptian slave. So--Andor may end up being a timeless story for this obviously f***ed species, but let's hope we can move beyond it. Because we'll never move beyond Humbert Humbert and Don Draper. They are, unfortunately, timeless.
fox_e_crow
2026-01-30 02:41:26 +0000 UTCyeah Syril thinks he's there to bait out outside agitators (for example who they identify as Axis) by letting them commit rebel acts with outside help
Mathies
2026-01-30 01:25:13 +0000 UTC43:30 Lola is referring to the Palestinian Great March of Return of 2018-2019, an almost entirely non-violent movement of civil disobedience, where the people of Gaza marched to the border fence in peaceful protest, only to be massacred by the IOF. As detailed by many (and prominently in English by Norman Finkelstein and many others), Zi*nist snipers DELIBERATELY targeted: journalists, medical workers, CHILDREN and the ALREADY-DISABLED. It is the absolute EXACT embodiment of a rebuttal to the typical complaints about Palestinian resistance "never" trying to be peaceful or non-violent. THEY TRIED - REPEATEDLY. They could not have done anything more respectfully and perfectly in line with the nonviolent methods that were constantly demanded of them. And yet the global ruling classes and its media institutions ignored it completely.
X Yuan
2026-01-30 00:21:37 +0000 UTCI love that Tony Gilroy respects his audience enough to let us fill in the blanks ourselves. Like the whole Syril arc, for example. Just from that one scene with Enza it becomes clear at some point in the past year he has grown sympathetic to the Ghor resistance to the point where he confessed he'd been spying on them. All this time he thought he was on Ghorman to trap the outside agitators, and the less evidence of that he saw the more disillusioned he got with the Empirial plans. Another fun fact that might you have missed is his clothes in this episode: when he just arrived on Ghorman he was wearing a strict Imperial-style suit. In this episode, however, he's wearing this stylish, tailored Ghorman trench coat with a velvet scarf. Such a subtle difference, but the one that shows how much he has integrated himself into the Ghor culture.
AndyB
2026-01-29 23:57:59 +0000 UTCSomething that I think is implied in the show is that once Cinta died, Luthen has had to lean on other people in his network for the work she would have done, ie assassinating Dedra. Cinta was his heavy hitter, Vel was his team organizer, Cass was his infiltrator/thief, Wilmon was his tech guy, Bix was a weapons tech. After Cinta died and Vel left, it seems that Cassian became Luthen’s hitter and Wilmon became his organizer. After Cass leaves for Yavin, Wilmon has to go *get* him to come back for a mission. It’s just a clever yet subtle bit to show that Cinta wasn’t just Vel’s love interest; she was an essential part of the network and her death threw a lot of things into flux for Luthen.
Dean
2026-01-29 23:28:16 +0000 UTCother great african thinkers/leaders of the era: amilcar cabral, ngugi wa thiongo, patrice lumumba, steve biko, frantz fanon
X Yuan
2026-01-29 23:07:44 +0000 UTCThe senate building that you said reminded you of Valencia is literally filmed in Valencia, Spain. Also the BBY that you saw at the beginning means Before battle of Yavin and you missed that this rebel base is on Yavin.
Mate
2026-01-29 22:47:26 +0000 UTCOh lastly Lola quoting Kwame Nkrumah makes the girls reactions indoubitably the best thing (Lola if you watch this comment check out also Thomas Sankara if you haven't already). We really NEED for the girls to watch the Battle of Algiers. I don't think that I put it in the suggested movies, don't know why, I hope someone else did. PS Zohran Mamdani's middle name is Kwame in honour for the Ghanean Pan-Africanist.
broken king
2026-01-29 22:16:59 +0000 UTCI completely understand not wanting to watch the movies after. It’s like watching a Band of Brothers’ quality show where you follow a grounded story of a group of earth benders trying to push off the fire nation from attacking their homeland where their leaders deny the war exists and then you transition to ATLA to get the conclusion. I love ATLA but the tonal and writing whiplash between the two would probably be insane. In many ways the both of you are potentially test subjects for watching Star Wars in this order
My Toasty Toast
2026-01-29 22:14:48 +0000 UTCAndor honestly tied up very nicely with Rogue One. It definitely felt like a "closure" to the characters' stories, a continuation of the same themes (different individuals doing their small part pushing the rebellion forward), and even a clean bridge to other Star Wars movies so that it doesn't feel disjointed.
JustAMeloPancake
2026-01-29 22:14:10 +0000 UTCIt breaks my heart to see the Palmo plaza that in the fourth episode was full of work and people and life, being empty, desolate full of imperialist fascist soldiers and military. Whole livelihoods and a unique culture destroyed. I would like to also add that Ghorman is to me an example of the imperial boomerang in action. As a parallel for France, Ghorman is a core planet of wealth and status, in contrast with Ferrix (a planet closer to global south countries, especially Latin American ones) which belongs in the periphery. Methods used in the periphery to control the population most egregiously extracted and immiserate, are bound to be used to better control the populations of countries (here planets) of the imperial core.
broken king
2026-01-29 22:12:41 +0000 UTCI think their reactions are great but they are also hampered by not seeing Rogue One. And that will be increasingly apparent as we approach the end of the show.
Mahad Ali
2026-01-29 22:12:06 +0000 UTCSo there will be a bit of a gear change from Andor to Rogue One to the old 70’s & 80’s Star Wars. It would almost be like going from Game of Thrones to Lord of the Rings. Generally good in their own right, but the tone goes from very realistic and grounded to high adventure. I…wouldn’t bother with what happens after the original movies. It doesn’t realistically delve into the realities of a post-revolutionary political existence. It sort of devolves into a soulless machine to monetize the brand for a child/teen audience via nostalgia.
Dean
2026-01-29 22:10:12 +0000 UTCI dunno I'm kind of enjoying seeing how they hit regardless (and it's a testament to the writing that they do). I think they had a bigger reaction to the Force healer scene than some Star Wars nerds.
Jamie
2026-01-29 22:09:57 +0000 UTCIf i remember correctly Tony Gilroy initially did not want to include “the force” in Andor. He wanted it to be a gritty, realistic show that was free of “magic.” And he thought the average person living in the galaxy has never seen Jeddis or the force. He eventually decided that not including the force would be disrespectful to star wars fans. Personally, i think saving it for the end made its impact much more powerful. Its used way too much in other star wars movies and shows.
Mahad Ali
2026-01-29 22:08:58 +0000 UTCWhen the force healer said “they come no matter what, sometimes it even works, but this…” she isn’t referring to the Empire coming, but the people gathered around her hoping to be healed.
Darrach
2026-01-29 21:59:47 +0000 UTCA lot of these scenes would have even more weight if they had watched Rogue One first. But alas, we can’t change that now. It was still a powerful episode.
Mahad Ali
2026-01-29 21:59:33 +0000 UTCOn US social media the “they don’t even bother to lie badly anymore” line has gotten so much play as the administration was telling people that someone attacked ICE while we were all watching videos of him being disarmed and summarily executed.
Dean
2026-01-29 21:59:20 +0000 UTCRogue One is beginner-friendly and you are smart ladies. You will be fine.
Andrew G Walton
2026-01-29 21:58:27 +0000 UTCI still really want you guys to watch LotR. 😭
Eric
2026-01-29 21:57:51 +0000 UTCSometimes the force is like superpowers (you know floating rocks and stuff) but as it is fleshed out in this show and presumably understood around the galaxy it really is a deeper thing. It is described in the original film as "an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us an penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together." In that way it is like a kind of religious mysticism, only it is based in some "reality" within the world of Star Wars because some people can "use" it to do special things or see things before they happen
Nick Wilcox
2026-01-29 21:57:06 +0000 UTCI notice more and more comments in the past few threads alluding to future episodes, setting expectations, and explaining future things that don't need explaining. I fear as we get closer to the finale this will only get worse. Can we try to reign that in? "A little discipline doesn't seem too much to ask."
Michael M
2026-01-29 21:56:47 +0000 UTCI love how these reactions always turn into Lola's Political Podcast. V cerqvpg arkg jrrx'f rc zvtug or bar bs gubfr erivrjf gung ner svyzrq 24 ubhef yngre orpnhfr gurl arrq gb pnyz qbja naq gura jr zvtug or va sbe 2 ubhef bs natre. Cyrnfr, V arrq vg abj.
Jamie
2026-01-29 21:42:00 +0000 UTCI recall Tony Gilroy being asked in an interview if there was anything going on between Syril and Enza and his response was "Oh I hadn't thought of that." or something of that nature
Peter
2026-01-29 21:33:52 +0000 UTCIf anyone knows a way to put yourself in a coma for exactly 7 days, please leave it here in the comments. I'm gonna need it.
Vidolin
2026-01-29 21:30:26 +0000 UTCThe Force is just an energy (or “power”) that some people have more of than others. Force sensitive people like Luke and Darth Vader either use the “light side” or the “dark side” of it. But to Cassian and other people on the ground, the Lukes of the world are almost fictional characters like they are to us. Space wizards he’s never personally encountered. Which is why he’s so skeptical of a force healer.
Jamie
2026-01-29 21:21:54 +0000 UTCThis episode start for an arc I feel is the one that most suffered from the time jump format. I think seeing Syril, Bix, and Wilmon’s development during that year would have been nice. The writer’s respect the audience’s intelligence enough to know that we get it, but Bix and Wilmon’s substance abuse resolution and Syril’s activity in the Ghorman Resistance could have added quite a bit. That slap from Enza suggests that Syril may have even had a romantic relationship with her and that in juxtaposition with Dedra would have been *fascinating* It’s still fantastic and…buckle up
Dean
2026-01-29 21:17:37 +0000 UTCThat is Valencia. I thought you may recoginze it. Now whenever I go to Valencia and see that I remember this arc of Andor.
sand_fl
2026-01-29 21:08:22 +0000 UTCim so torn on wether i love that they are star wars clueless and havent seen rogue one yet or frustrated because it could - in the right sequence - add to their experience (and ours) either way you are absolutely brilliant in your discussions. this channel is the only one i've ever paid for and it's just wonderful to follow you on your journey i do hope you will release the next 5 faster because the wait is agony
Mike Out
2026-01-29 21:06:27 +0000 UTCDraven is Mr. Groff from Sex Education's character. Dodonna is a rebel general from various Star Wars media (you will see him briefly in Rogue One, though I don't remember now if they even name him there).
Jamie
2026-01-29 21:02:04 +0000 UTCI think they're spot on with Syril. He thinks he's there to trap "outside agitators", essentially rebels from the wider rebellion e.g. one of Luthen's agents. He has no idea that they plan to mine and destroy the planet and relocate the population. In lots of interviews, Tony Gilroy describes Syril as a "romantic", he has this idealised version of the empire that exists in his mind. One of my favourite details from season 1 is the clone/stormtrooper action figures he has in his bedroom. He genuinely believes he has been acting in a morally good way and only now is he starting to be confronted with reality.
Kimbjee
2026-01-29 21:00:26 +0000 UTCEpisodes 8 - 12 are peak - strap in. Can’t wait for y’all to watch!
Andor Arcane Severance fan
2026-01-29 20:59:01 +0000 UTCI will say this about your fear of not enjoying/understanding Rogue One in a spoiler free way: The bridge between the two is about as seamless as it can be considering Rogue One came almost a decade prior to this show. While the scope of Rogue One is obviously very cinematic and big, i think the heart of what makes Andor the story we love is still there. Its different, but it works. With the incredible media literacy you both have you will be more than fine :)
Daniel Molina
2026-01-29 20:58:41 +0000 UTCAs the girls have noticed, things are starting to speed up, namely the Rebellion itself is actually taking shape. The last year has clearly been a huge leap in terms of organisation. The planet this rebel base is on, Yavin, is the same planet Cassian was trapped on for the first two episodes of this season. Two years later and things are worlds apart. Val, Bix and Cassian are no longer tied directly to Luthen as their sole mission handler, and even Cassian leaving Yavin without orders to do so is bordering on a violation of the rules. The ragtag days of stealing Imperial payroll are long gone, as Val said. Everything feels more substantial now.
Darrach
2026-01-29 20:55:38 +0000 UTCThey explain (and sometimes overexplain) the Force in the movies and other series but per the wiki page: "The Force is a metaphysical, mysterious, and ubiquitous power in the Star Wars franchise. Within the galaxy in which the franchise is set, characters refer to the Force as an energy that interconnects all things, maintaining cosmic balance. Particularly "Force-sensitive" characters, usually through rigorous self-discipline, training, and mindfulness, are able to connect to the Force and thus access and wield certain supernatural abilities such as limited degrees of superhuman strength, telekinesis, and clairvoyance." With that said I really really, like how Andor touches on the Force. It really does feel mysterious and somewhat unknowable here, where in other parts of the franchise its wielded like a tool or weapon.
JC
2026-01-29 20:50:29 +0000 UTCThe next episode is my favorite of the entire show.
Pratham Dusad
2026-01-29 20:49:55 +0000 UTCSuch a refreshing perspective vs the level 9000 Star Wars nerd reactors out there. They have the same knowledge level of The Force as Cassian. "What is it? Is it a thing? Is it a scam? I don't know!"
Michael M
2026-01-29 20:49:41 +0000 UTCThe sad truth is that Ghorman never stood a chance. The moment the empire decided they are in the way, they were doomed. While they were busy questioning their morality and trying to reason with an occupying force that doesn't respect their basic rights, the empire already had plans for their reaction no matter how peaceful the resistance.
JustABody
2026-01-29 20:33:28 +0000 UTC“They don’t care enough to lie badly anymore that’s the ultimate humiliation”. I mean nowadays it stays with you doesn’t it? When the Republic will be back everyone will have been against this. Just as everyone today was always against the Iraq war, Vietnam, war the final solution etc. But the sad thing to realize isn’t that bad things happen only because a small clique of evil people want it. It is the fact the powerful manufacture consent through the media and the people fall for it. Every war and atrocity had the support or the acceptance at the very least of clear majorities. We see it here, we see it in our world.
broken king
2026-01-29 20:33:24 +0000 UTCBtw if it reminds you of Valencia, that's because they did in fact film those scenes there lol
NK
2026-01-29 20:23:46 +0000 UTCFor not knowing anything of the force, I loved seeing your emotions during the healer scene. Also, Interesting to hear you guys were nearby when your government used an LRAD
James Anthony
2026-01-29 20:13:46 +0000 UTCPAIN
Jamie
2026-01-29 19:53:38 +0000 UTC"It's bad luck Ghorman." Paratagaz has some of the best dialogue in the show, and for me, this one is up there for how much it reveals about the Empire's attitude in a single sentence. He and the ISB have been planning a genocide, but it's not out of any genuine animosity towards the Ghor. They're just in the way of something the Empire wants. If they could get it some other way, they would find that much easier and they would forget all about Ghorman, but they can't, so I guess Ghorman has to be destroyed and its people killed or forcibly removed. Sucks to be them, right? It's all so very cold and methodical. There is no bloodlust or malice, just a complete absence of humanity.
Nubile Reptile
2026-01-29 19:49:10 +0000 UTCI am so glad they have frieren as a pallet cleanser for these upcoming episodes.
Zack
2026-01-29 19:48:08 +0000 UTC
