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Mad Men 1x10 Reaction

Mad Men 1x10 Reaction

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I have been following your youtube channel for years and Mad Men surely was one of those shows I hoped you would watch. It's one of my absolute favorites, there is so much to say about it. And I agree, you can watch this masterpiece for hours just in awe. I am so happy that you like it. Wouldn't have thought anything else. There are some other great period dramas out there, who knows, maybe they end up here as well.

yeahokgood

I love Andor and would be super excited to see a reaction to it, but if another short show is needed to put in a poll, might I suggest Adolescence? It's just four episodes and it would generate fascinating discussions, I believe. (I'd still vote for Andor, though.)

Biberius Caldius Mero

They shifted the schedule to account for the international move and the Cowboy Bebop movie which was late. The next Mad Men reaction isn't even late yet. It should be Mad Men > Monster > Mad Men > Monster, Thurs thru Sun.

Kara

Damn. Looks like our Mad Men reactions have suddenly slowed down after a very promising start. What gives.

Julien

Personally would love to see more bear reactions!

Virgil Hawkins

I think the casting of the men is intentional. That's 2 older guys we've seen Joan go for. Her best friend just professed her love to her, so she takes her out to a bar, finds the first 2 random guys she can to pay for drinks/food, gets drunk, brings them home and has sex with them. idk if it's conscious or subconscious, but it's a desire to remind Carol that Joan is heterosexual (and maybe Carol is too). Of the two men she also leaves the "better" one for Carol. on a meta level it reinforces what Burt says later about not giving "youth to age".

Kara

No offence to the guys Joan and friend brought home But I think they were cast a little too old. I knew you would love madmen for the characters, it doesn’t have the potential violence of a breaking bad, wire or sopranos but I think that makes it refreshing. There is the same amount of drama but it doesn’t hinge on the threat of death.

Patrick

since that's a spanish lamp, I say she's Carmen (or Camila)

RubénMO

Mad Men is not leaving Netflix UK anytime soon I don't believe, in case that helps folks with VPNs

SmallWoodenDuck

Be aware that episode 11 + 12 of season 3 are out of order if you make it that far !

Eric Viola

mad men is also leaving spain netflix at the end of the month?? Same here in France and it fucking sucks. I'm in the middle of s2 and there is no way i'll finish the entire show by the end of july... :(

petitcorbeau

1. The lighting looks great, actually! 2. Someone may have already mentioned this, but in this context, "followed" is metaphorical. She means that she became friends with Joan because she was attracted to her, then later when Joan went to Manhattan, so she went too, as a roommate. There's still an implication there that she is pining for Joan, of course, generally one "follows" their partner, not a friend from college. But it's not literal stalking :D

Chris Truex

To be honest, it's pretty crazy that Serbia and Spain are the same time zone.

Robert Dirk H.

I have full links to LEGAL COPIES too, if needed. shouldn't be a problem

Kara

I don't know if it's the lighting or the new Spanish climate but Milena's tan is looking glorious.

Gaboxxy

Pa cuando sus reacciones en español? xd

Gaboxxy

😄

INFJ-T Tyrone

Bit off topic but I rewatched The Apartment last night. It’s perfect and the MM influence is obvious but there’s a scene where Jack Lemmon is called Little Lord Fauntleroy and it hit me, that’s what Kendall is referencing and what Chris is calling Jackie Jr lol. Im guessing I was supposed to know that already. Oops

cheech

Buena pronunciación chicas! ♥️ Hope you enjoy Spain!

RepliCant

Yeah, I just read up on this. So dumb. The point of that scene is to show the audience how stupid they were being.

Michael M

What happened with Diegesis? I watched and enjoyed season 1 of Mr Robot long ago but lost interest at the start of season 2.

Julien

Wow if they really removed that ep from season 3 that's absolutely ridiculous...ppl need to grow up.

TylerNorCal

Lmfao everyone saying you guys would hate the characters and the most hateable one is their fav 😂

TylerNorCal

Hope you both enjoy Spain! Glad you're enjoying the show too. I think Don sees Rachel as a kindred spirit rather than her literally knowing everything about him. They've talked about being outsiders, losing their mothers, her father has also struggled to make a living. They get along on a deeper level and he feels like he can share things he can't with Betty. There's a good exchange between Don and Abe Menken in their meeting, where Don is joking about him telling his kids how hard it used to be, and Abe replies 'yes it was hard, everyone seems to want to forget that'. Don sees the new beginning for the store as aspirational, but Abe is not ready to radically alter things so quickly. Rachel was similarly wary when they first proposed it to her. One other things is Don talking about seeing himself in Nixon. He may have a similar background to Nixon, but his current lifestyle is a lot more like Kennedy. Good looking, charismatic, model wife and family but a known philanderer.

Mark M

I would say the decline didn't start until the 70s/80s with neoliberalism and ending of New Deal democracy. 1960s had civil rights movement and The Great Society was still on the table.

Eric Viola

They are clearly team Beach, so Barcelona :D

Robert Dirk H.

Are you team Madrid or team Barcelona?

Jorginho

I'm so glad to be rewatching this alongside you guys. The last time I watched this I was much younger and it's so interesting how my perspective on characters has changed. 15 years ago when I would have watched this I thought Roger was a really cool guy, but now I can't stand him, especially in this episode! He just seems so pathetic, weak, and extremely sad.

Jayden Shepherd

Suggestions for short shows for poll and after Andor: 1) Tokyo Vice 2) Colony 3) Reservation Dogs 4) Black Bird 5) Silo 6) Dark Matter 7) Get Shorty .. hopefully haven't already seen some of these!

Quasirng

''If you vote for Nixon, you ought to go to hell.'' - Harry Truman

Nazım Metin

You may not know a lot about America in 1960, but as an American looking back, 1960 has some very close similar society themes to today. The 60s were the start of the decline from the peak of the 50s America, and people like the characters could sense it, but didn't quite know what to do.

INFJ-T Tyrone

The amount of peanut butter and jealous I am can’t even be weighed smh lol. Congrats. If I could pack it all up I’d move to San Sebastián Spain in a heart beat. Hope yall have pintxos in your area and hope yall like vermouth! Long days and pleasant nights!

Truemeathead

I own Mad Men digitally in HD (all the episodes) and I would gladly let you both watch it if it’s helpful and/or necessary. Especially if it happens to be leaving Netflix completely and not just in Spain. I’m willing to help if you ever need it.

Jason

Congrats on the move! Know it’s been your dream for years

Jay Craig

It's almost funny how Don outright *creates* that moment with Rachel. Roger's experience spooks him, and he wants to run to someone who knows and loves him... but that person doesn't exist. He tells Rachel that she knows everything about him, but she doesn't, not until he tells her about his parents *after* they have sex. And even then he doesn't tell her everything. He wants Rachel to want him (and she does), but he orchestrates the events so that he seduces her first and won't consummate the encounter until she *says* that she wants it. The whole thing is so artificial, even if it's underpinned by real honest emotions and confessions.

Mike

i wish i liked the bear s4 i wanna watch the show you all watched 😔

Kara

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Kara

don tells Rachel more about himself than he's told betty in X years of marriage, sheesh

Kara

what do you mean, their old apartment was painted Serbian Cream, this one is painted Español Eggshell

Kara

Don: "my best friend and boss had a heart attack" Betty: "wow rip to a real one, btw did you know Gloria cooks pot roast with KETCHUP?" CRAZY good episode, sooo much happened lmao. I guess I'll focus on the thing I care about most: gay yearning for christina hendricks. Just to be clear, Carol said she saw Joan in college, they became friends in college, then later Joan moved to NYC and Carol followed her yeah. compulsive heterosexuality (comp het) is powerful in 2025, imagine how much worse it was in 1960. honestly being a lesbian then, if you got lucky you could have a "lavender marriage" with a gay man who understood the assignment. otherwise you're either a lonely spinster people whisper about, or allowing rando men to do whatever they want. it's nice to have some minor woman queer rep alongside Sal, even in such circumstances. it makes me cry for all the women - not just gay women - who just said "yes" as the path of least resistance, because its what you're "supposed to want", because it's easier than making a scene. this still happens now. your comments about class are wholly appropriate - it was a lot easier to be gay in the village than it was to hold down a job in manhattan. there's a lot of great resources, books, youtube vids if your interested, just search "queer history 20th century US" etc. It's a small detail but when Roger is in hospital he says "I did everything the doctors said, I ate the butter, I drank the cream" - back then the latest dietary news was that fats were good and you were supposed to eat as much fats as possible. So here's Roger Sterling drinking half a bottle of vodka minimum a day, pounding oysters with rich butter sauces, inhaling glasses of creamy milk prescribed by his Doctor + smoking cigarettes nonstop, who is then shocked when he suddenly has a heart attack lol. just a funny "history is weird" meme. One of the things I love about Mad Men is sometimes it feels so relatable + contemporary and other times it feels like watching an alien civilization on a different planet. you think of history as being specific groups of people, "the 1800s", "the 60s" etc but every moment in history is a cross-section slice of human culture just like 2025: where we have boomers and gen x and millennials and gen z and gen alpha all mixing with conflicting beliefs and classes and cultures. its like that in 1960 - you have people who lived through the gilded age, mixing with people who will still be alive today. Sally Draper would be 71 if she lives until 2025. I'll sound like a broken record but it legit warms my heart how much you love the show at this point lol. I always suspected this would be the case but you never know for sure (rip Diegesis Mr Robot reactions 😭). to see you be INTO the show this much honestly makes my week every time the reaction drops 💖💖💖

Kara

The gratification that comes after listening to you two rave about the show right after each ep is unmatched. I didn’t realize how much I needed mad men reactions until you guys started this. And it’s season 1 😅

cheech

Huge part of Mad Men and Joan's agency is her weaponizing the hand she was given. Same goes for every other female character acting outside of the status quo. Pretty easy for us to judge in retrospect fifty years later. I think she should get all the credit. Why can't she be just as nasty as the men when she has to deal with a million roadblocks to get where she is now and exponential consequences that they would never have to face? That's the genius of Mad Men to me.

Chris B

Honestly if you didn't mention it I wouldn't have noticed that anything was different except for the lamp lol, not like there was much decoration before.

Nina

would've lost all faith in humanity honestly

Eric Viola

what an amazing episode, its so hard not to binge. final scene is such a gut punch because of how secretive Don has been this whole season.

T0ast

lola y milena español era!! amamos verlo

alon

Lol I can't believe the poll almost had us watch Barry instead of this

Mitchell

I didn't realize you two were moving, I though you were talking about a vacation or trip. Huzzah on such a huge change! Huzzah-again on getting back to your natural hair. I completely shaved my head earlier this week, it's like becoming a whole different person when the hair changes. The movie "The Apartment" that Joan references is a classic film regarded as one of the best films ever made. It's about a man working at a company who loans out his apartment to higher-ranking men at his company to use for their affairs so they won't be caught. That's why it resonates so much with Joan when Roger talks about how the risk of them being caught is what determines where they can go. I've seen the Broadway play based on it, "Promises, Promises". I think this is one of those formative episodes of the early series. We get more insight into Don's past, we get more exposure to Roger Sterling, and Joan's personal life, and even more of a look at Bert Cooper. To give some context to Carol's confession, anti-sodomy laws in New York were still on the books at this time, so it was literally illegal to have gay sex. The Stonewall Riots, which was a seminal moment in the US gay rights movement where people rioted after police raided (and harassed, beat up, and arrested) patrons of a gay bar, wouldn't happen until 1969. If Joan wanted to, she could have gotten Carol arrested or beaten or thrown out of their apartment because of her confession, and she would have had complete legal and societal support. I think you're right that Don is projecting onto Rachel. Specifically, I think he's projecting that she thinks & feels the same way as him. He's looking for validation and support that what he feels is correct, which is why he makes her verbally say that she wants to have sex as well, instead of just going through with it for sexual gratification when she stops resisting. He doesn't want sex, he wants somebody to say "Your nihilistic outlook on life and self-serving ways are normal and appropriate for the world".

JBK405

I think Joan may be getting too much credit here. Joan was not giving Caroll an out. Otherwise they might have gone out and done something else that night that didn't involve Joan conspicuously fucking a man in the same apartment where they live. Joan's response and behavior was an outright rejection of Carroll's *orientation*. There was no understanding there. It was a firm "No, AND how dare you even go there." She threw her heterosexuality in Carroll's face by having them come home with two men and going to bed with one of them basically right in front of Caroll. If Joan had any kind of understanding or sympathy for Carroll, she never would have left Carroll out there with the other guy. I think the critical thing to understand about Joan (and many women of this time and place) is that she fundamentally accepts the patriarchy as right and good. It is as normal to her as the air she breathes. She never noticed the stench. The fact that she skillfully navigates this social order does not mean that she questions it. Joan works *within* the system. It would never occur to her to challenge it and imagine another way. She wouldn't want to! For me, this is a big part of the genius of Mad Men: the way it shows that often, people who live in an oppressive system *don't know they are being oppressed.* That, is Joan. Great reaction and discussion as always.

Julien

Agreed. Love your analysis. Like you said, Joan has to deal with unwanted advances all day at work. And guess what, turns out the girl she knew from highschool that she eventually was able to get an apartment together with... Wanted her as well. She's not even "safe" at home with someone of the same sex. Just shows the fucking minefield she has to traverse daily, and the type of interactions that she's had to deal with her entire life. All of this has forced her to temper her interactions with literally everyone in her life going forward.

Chris B

There are no movie reactions in Ba Sing Se :D (I hope we get it tomorrow :P)

Robert Dirk H.

Espero que mejoren con el español cuando estan ayi 😝 excited for y’all to be living together now…MORE DRUNK QA’s 👀

Daniel Molina

both andor and s4 of the bear are so fucking peak ugh you're in for a treat

jelena rozga

Incredible Joan episode. Two moments stand out for me: First, how smoothly she rebuffs her roommate's declaration of love -- because what does Joan do all day besides fend off unwanted advances? Second, of course, is the *crushing* moment with Bert at the elevator. The parallel to "The Apartment" (great movie, by the way) is heartbreaking on its own, but it coming immediately after Bert gives her some genuinely well-intentioned advice about her affair with Roger, as if to say that even *he* sees her like a tray of canapés (great line, by the way), is just a perfect statement about how boxed in Joan is by the world around her. Christina Hendricks is absolutely terrific on this series and she just shreds the (always incredible) material they give her. I also love how we initially think Bert is oblivious to the Roger/Joan situation when he calls her in to write the telegrams (telegrams, by the way!) only for the show to double back and wallop us with that moment. You don't need an action-heavy plot to do great plot twists.

Mike

The actress that plays Roger's wife is his IRL wife FYI

Eric Viola

lol I couldn’t stop watching andor reactions. I don’t even care who it is. Plus the accounts that make the big mashups for each episode. The best.

cheech

Netflix UK says it’s removed, but it isn’t

Darrach

Yeah, Episode 303 has been removed on some streamers / in some countries for "controversy" surrounding one specific scene. It's an overt moment of racism that's totally in-step with the time period and the show's interrogation of the era. We aren't meant to interpret it as anything other than racism. It's ridiculous that the episode wouldn't be available -- to say nothing of how this specific censorship implies that all the other racism, homophobia, sexism, etc. on the series is "fine" in comparison. Other streamers have just included a pre-credits message about the moment and its historical context, which is a much more sensible solution.

Mike

You guys moved together? Interesting.

John Wayne

Also I thought The cowboy bebop was today? D:

Jack SV

Congratulations on the move! I don’t know much about Spain besides what my ex gf told me back in the day ( she is from there)~ I hope you girls enjoy your stay there!

Jack SV

congrats on the move!!! https://i.imgur.com/bko8pBE.png [edit] dont put me thru another poll 😭 you could watch Andor and do a short show suggestion post like before to see what people are vibing with [edit 2] yessss it was meeee I've been pushing for Andor "as a joke" since S1 in 2022, but I thought it would never happen. mad men and andor are the only shows i've watched like 10+ times (not counting sitcoms or animations), I think I've watched every single Andor reaction on YouTube lmao [edit 3] omg i LOVE milena's natural wavy hair, i thought it was styled. it looks so good! curly girls unite

Kara

Interesting yeah Mad Men is "Leaving Soon" in Canada too. Kinda glad because episodes 11 + 12 of Season 3 on Netflix are (unbelievably) out of order so less chance they watch them out of order by accident !

Eric Viola

Wait what did I miss an episode??you're in Spain already?? I didn't realize it was now lol you were saying you were prefilming things but I just thought you were in holidays haha. But anyway, I'm happy for you because I know you wanted to move out for a long time!

petitcorbeau

Andor lost against The Bear again, because of Natalie!! 😭

Robert Dirk H.

Milena also has got Spanish wavy hair (again) :D

Robert Dirk H.

SPAIN IS HERE!! A very beautiful country, I hope it will be a good new journey for you girls, enjoy it

Bernardo


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