Vinland Saga 2x10 Reaction
Added 2023-03-19 23:02:31 +0000 UTC
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True, the story isn't really about vikings and their wars, that's just a mean to made the plot move forward.
Víctor Colina
2023-03-21 15:28:18 +0000 UTChonestly I'm more invested in watching thorfin and einar growing grass on the farm than game of thrones part of it, that's not what the anime is about.
Cortega
2023-03-20 15:19:42 +0000 UTCAbout the line of succession you are right: Harald was the main heir to the throne. The fact is that: The kingdom of Denmark in that historical period was in continuous expansion especially in Britain which is why the Council and the high nobility pushed for a division of the territories between the two sons. King Sweyn in VS is totally against leaving Canute in a leadership role because he considered him weak and unable to manage a kingdom, which is why he wanted to kill him. Expecially after Canute has managed to bring Thorkell's army from his side: his position in the eyes of the nobles has strengthened. Sadly the "Game of thrones" part in VS was quite overlooked is my only slight disappointment with this story arc. But it's more my personal whim, objectively as a manga reader I think this narrative arc is absolutely perfect. Yukimura is a master storyteller
Cris
2023-03-20 13:20:25 +0000 UTCI love what they're doing with the anime. They add stuff in a really nice, coherent way without altering the narrative at all. It's a masterclass of expanding faithfully on a story. Makes me really wonder what else they're going to shove in there just to make the story even more impactful. I love the manga to death and didn't think they could make the story even better. I simply wanted to see it animated and wasn't expecting this at all.
Inb4close
2023-03-20 07:25:09 +0000 UTCMan this season has been on another level. There are certain episodes that I remember that takes anime to another level. Like season 1 ep 24 put this anime in my top 3. After season 2 ep 9, it became my number 2. I can totally see it happening when it becomes my number 1. Same thing happen with HxH (my number 1) there are certain episodes that you will never forget!
David Salazar
2023-03-20 07:24:39 +0000 UTCWell yeah it's the same, he changed in season 1 as well. He became more driven and began to understand what he wanted to do.
2Ker
2023-03-20 06:49:44 +0000 UTCCanute reminded me Light in this episode, is it the same in the manga? Almost feels like they skipped the whole arc of his development given he was one of the most innocent characters back in the day.
terrier
2023-03-20 03:53:38 +0000 UTCand lelouch. he got both them energies going
Danny
2023-03-20 03:48:13 +0000 UTCthe young canute and harald flashbacks werent in the manga but they are welcome additions from mappa. makes the whole thing more tragic
Sebastian
2023-03-20 03:10:05 +0000 UTC11:39 Thorfinn's eyes are starting resemble like the ones Thors had. That mysterious sparkle. That shine.
Vivasvan Gautam
2023-03-20 02:34:19 +0000 UTCYes I thought the same think. He is very alike Light Yagami
Matt DMC
2023-03-20 00:53:14 +0000 UTCSince you brought it up at the end: no third season has been announced yet, BUT it is very likely and should be released in 1 to 2 years. Also, with the three years for season 2, you have to know that it wasn't just Corona, but also the studio changed, with the team of animators remaining the same. There was probably relatively big chaos behind it.
Robert H.
2023-03-20 00:52:49 +0000 UTCI got major Light vibes from the scene towards the end when he was talking with King Sweyn's head alone in his room. It reminded me one of those Light and Ryuk convos lol
enchantertim
2023-03-20 00:37:55 +0000 UTCCanute always struck me as very self-righteous after his transformation (I mean he literally declares war on God lol), so his ruthless 'ends justifying the means' attitude didn't really surprise me.
Jay Craig
2023-03-20 00:37:16 +0000 UTCFraticide is very common within monarchies. It's not to do about morality exactly, it's to do with politics. Think about it in terms of game theory. Unlike a democracy, within a monarchy the people will never accept as their ruler someone who's not of royal blood (passed down paternally). Kings are kings not because of the power they hold (though necessary) but because of the divine right of kings from a religious point of view. In other words a prince is born to rule, this is their moral obligation, and it is considered a sin not to do so. So let's say you're a businessman with wealth and an army far greater than that of whatever King. None of that matters because the people will never accept you as ruler cause you're still just some guy. But there's a workaround: you use one of the King's brothers as a proxy and mascot for your political ambitions. This is how revolts come to be. So how do you put a stop to the ambitions of powerful rich men? You get rid of all your brothers. No brothers = no legitimate means for anyone to challenge your rule. It doesn't even matter if you're on great terms with your brother. As a political ruler it's impossible to please everyone, so chances are at some point someone who doesn't like your policies will try to remove you. As long as there's someone around to fill the throne, people will shrug off the death of the previous king as a sign of a weak ruler. Because if he can't even protect himself, how will he be capable of protecting the whole country?
Orr Malus
2023-03-20 00:17:51 +0000 UTCIt was this moment in the manga that made me start despising Canute. I think he's a well written character but in general I absolutely despise anyone who's goals lead them to believe that any evil they commit is acceptable and necessary because they plan on eventually creating paradise on earth. No matter what they do they are justified because of a far away goal of a utopia, which in of itself is an impossibility. No matter what Canute's future ambitions are, he is still a man who murdered his older brother for power.
Loki Marcus
2023-03-20 00:17:04 +0000 UTCSince we've caught both stories up, it's a good place to have a timeline for anyone interested. I'm pretty confident about most dates, but some might not be exactly right. - February 1014: Askeladd kills Sweyn (S1E24) - Sometime 1014: Ethelred II returns from exile to retake England (S2E5) - June 1015: Einar arrives on Ketil's farm and meets Thorfinn (S2E1+2) - Summer 1015: Canute makes a deal with Earl Eadric to turn on Ethelred II (S2E5) - Sep 1015: Einar and Thorfinn need a horse, meet old man Sverkel (S2E6) - Oct 1015: Einar and Thorfinn start sowing seeds in their field (End of S2E6) - Nov 1015: Thorgil returns to Ketil's farm. (S2E7) - Dec 1015: Retainers destroy the wheat field. Thorfin swears to pursue a life of non-violence. First snow of the year falls (S2E8+9) - April 1016: Ethelred II dies of "illness" (S2E5) - Nov 1016: Ethered's son and successor, Edmund, dies of "illness" (S2E5) - Sometime in 1018: Canute is officially crowned King of England (S2E5) - Sep 1018: Einar and Thorfinn finish clearing their land of trees.(S2E10) - Sep 1018: Ketil begins his trip to Jelling to visit King Harold. (S2E10) - Sep 1018: Canute arrives in Jelling to visit his brother Harold. (S2E10)
ArtficialFlvrz
2023-03-20 00:08:11 +0000 UTCI had already posted a historical comparison at the end of season 1. I think now it's time for it again: [Thorkell the Tall and Eadric of Mercia] First of all, I must mention that Ragnar (fictional character) did not raise Canute as a foster father, but Thorkell. In the anime only the warlike side is shown, but Thorkell was also very calm and level-headed. Ultimately, the combination of Ragnar and Thorkell depicts the true character Thorkell in the history. I had considered mentioning this in the first history summary, but I didn't want to spoil Canute and Thorkell's future relationship. Canute's right hand man is also not Ragnar's brother, but Thorkell. Eadric of Mercia sided with Canute, as shown in the anime, and was killed by him a little later after Canute's coronation, because he did not see him as trustworthy. The story about Eadric is generally entangled with the deaths in England. Æthelred died from disease, as in the anime, with poison seen as realistic. Edmund (Æthelred's son) also died a little later, as in the anime. However, the story is far more complicated. Edmund and Canute, with the help of Queen Emma (Æthelred's widow, stepmother of Edmund), were able to negotiate a peace in which England would be divided. It was agreed that all of England north of the Thames was to be the domain of the Danish prince, while all to the south was kept by the English king, along with London. Accession to the reign of the entire realm was set to pass to Cnut upon Edmund's death. But just days after the divided rule began, a strange event occurred. Henry of Huntingdon wrote: "Edmund went one night to the lavatory to answer a call of nature. There the son of Ealdorman Eadric, who by his father's plan was concealed in the pit of the privy, struck the king twice with a sharp knife in the private parts, and leaving the weapon in his bowels, fled away. Then Eadric came to King Cnut and saluted him, saying, "Hail, sole king!" When he revealed, what had happened, the king replied, "As a reward for your excellent service, I will make you taller than all the English noblemen. Then he ordered him to be beheaded, and his head to be put on a pole on London's tallest tower." However, Saxo is not convinced that Canute did not have a hand in the game: "Others say that Knud had secretly given orders to kill Edward, and that he now commanded that the murderers should be punished in order to divert suspicion from himself, since he held that he, to get people to believe that he was innocent and had no part in this crime, had to let those, who had done it, be punished on the hardest. However, the incident robbed for some time Knud's part of the love that his retainers had for him." [Harald Svendsøn] Harald Svendsøn is the older brother of Canute by about 10 years. On the whole, the brothers seem to have had a very good mutual relationship. The most important event in Harald's reign was the reconquest of England by his brother Canute, with the full support of Harald. The brothers focused all their attention on England and probably spent all their resources on the war there. Olav Digre took advantage of this to establish himself as king of Norway, losing this territory after the death of King Sweyn. Many historians write that Harald Svendsøn died in 1018 - by all accounts, childless. It is not known how he died, and his grave is not known. He was succeeded on the throne by his brother Canute. In part, you can find a speculation in some texts that Canute wants to avenge the murder of his brother, but it is very unclear.
Robert H.
2023-03-19 23:34:49 +0000 UTCMilena: Love that he's not gonna poison his brother.... 💀😬
JT
2023-03-19 23:27:15 +0000 UTCAre you guys gonna react to Shadow and Bone season 2? I finished the season and I have thoughts!
Camzeee
2023-03-19 23:22:02 +0000 UTC@LM Reaction i don't 😅 they don't pay me enough for working amost 10 hours a day. but thanks anyway ❤️
sand_fl
2023-03-19 23:16:49 +0000 UTChope you settle into your new job soon! 😘
LM Reactions
2023-03-19 23:14:18 +0000 UTCimagine if someone told you a few episodes back you'd see thorfinn laughing from happiness. the serotonin his character arc gives me is inmensurable. i really want to watch this but i still haven't watched the discussion of the last episode and i'm behind in mr robot and hxh. only a few days with a new job and it's already consuming all my time 💀
sand_fl
2023-03-19 23:06:16 +0000 UTC
