Regarding the last post
Added 2018-02-23 04:54:08 +0000 UTCSo we created a post on a twist we could make to Aylia's patch, there was a lot of concerns, we deleted that post in order not to announce something that isn't going to happen, so here's our issue and where we stand right now:
• Aylia and Ayame both have to be in the patch.
• There has to be a logical reason for Aylia to be there.
• We don't want to make it just a 2/3 scene cameo where we have to put a lot of time and resources into and risk it delaying the patch a lot.
• Making a full patch dedicated to the crossover might be too much.
• Maybe introducing monsters conditions the patch a bit.
So what are your suggestions? How do you think we should approach this? Do you think we should just stick to the original plan? As always we appreciate any and every feedback.
Comments
Should be fine, yeah.
outside998
2018-02-24 22:53:44 +0000 UTCYeah, let's pretend I have time this weekend to watch streaming. Can you do Tuesdays? x'D
Heaven Studios
2018-02-24 21:52:49 +0000 UTCI was kinda busy the last couple of days. But I will stream this weekend.
outside998
2018-02-24 17:57:42 +0000 UTCFuck... That wall of text hit me as hard as a boss in Dark Souls 3. On the real, why u no stream more often? :O
Heaven Studios
2018-02-24 01:29:25 +0000 UTCHm, Aylia's Story deals with the Divines, right? How about using that? Ayame is japanese, and as such most likely a shintoist, or at least participates in shintoistic acts. They believe if spirits, youkai and Devines. So, my idea would be something like this: Aylia's world is filled with magic, so maybe she and a few monsters got sucked into a weird magical portal, leading them to Ayame's world. It was most likely Bogword's fault. The part she and those creatures stranded on will be covered by magic, intagible and invisible to "regular" humans. Aylia could use her magic to try and call for help. and Ayame, as someone who is part of a religion believing in spirits and stuff, is receptive to her call. So, she feels the urge to visit the place, is able to go through the barrier, and meets Aylia. At first, Ayame is of course really confused, and believes Aylia to be a youkai or something similar. But she soon finds out that she can't escape from this dangerous place, and tried to approach Aylia again, aggreeing to help her find a way out, sending Aylia back into her dimension, and Ayame back home. On the way the meet other people who were also sucked into Ayame's world through the portal, maybe fight monsters and stuff, and find out that they could create a spell or something, so they could escape. But for that to work, they need ingredients, and to get them the player can use multiple approaches, including sexual ones, if Ayame's or Aylia's morality are low enough. Or maybe they have to fight or trick a huge beast at the end. The world they are trapped in I imagine a mix between Ayame's world and Aylia's.
outside998
2018-02-23 20:14:29 +0000 UTCIf you need time to reflect and plot out the story, then you should postpone the crossover. It might be wise to play through YT's Chapter 1 before even beginning. I feel that the crossover story should ultimately feel like "just another" branch in the tree of Ayame's story, another path players can explore like Melvin's or Sato's. It shouldn't feel like some random bizarre detour from the main story.
omgnerdrage
2018-02-23 18:14:33 +0000 UTCI think you should focus on the base game and put off crossovers for the DLC's. The development process takes long enough as it is right now and I believe it hurts the game to add in more stuff that isn't progressing the game. Additionally you will have more time to come up with a good way to include this crossover and make it the way it's satisfying for you.
Doron
2018-02-23 15:46:20 +0000 UTCAyame could watch an Aylia's anime on TV during the weekend. As she watches TV, she falls asleep and dreams of being part of Aylia's story.
Abaddon
2018-02-23 13:58:36 +0000 UTCMay have already been said but she could appear in some kind of convention, like, a fantasy or anime convention of some sort - Kobayashi's Dragon Maid gives me the idea. The idea that beings from other worlds attend our world's conventions of that sort because people think they are just cosplaying, when they're actually real. Maybe Aylia walked into someone else's portal to the convention out of curiosity and ended up there to meet Ayame who, in the case of an anime convention, goes there to see a bit of home - or a fantasy convention out of pure curiosity or maybe she grabbed a job there while it's on.
Noxissa
2018-02-23 12:14:03 +0000 UTCI don't think it's THAT simple.
Heaven Studios
2018-02-23 09:50:01 +0000 UTCWell, CharDucks took words out of my mouth..err..keyboard. I liked both old and new ideas equally, and i trust you'll deliver any of them, given enough time. And i don't mind waiting =)
SpFinX
2018-02-23 07:43:12 +0000 UTCI mean I don't want to "say" anything to much but when you and I talked we had brought up the history of the world. Lets just say you definitely have a "means" to make it happen, I think its just whether or not you want to introduce a few more characters (right now) into your plot in order to make it happen.
CrimsonDragon
2018-02-23 06:50:34 +0000 UTCYou know I'm pro Aylia. Here's a scene suggestion from the highly underrated Hagure Idol <a href="http://lhscans.com/read-hagure-idol-jigokuhen--chapter-17.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://lhscans.com/read-hagure-idol-jigokuhen--chapter-17.html</a> . Standard hot springs, scene comparing bust sizes that I've seen in a dozen series, both fantasy and modern.
Justjorge
2018-02-23 06:36:38 +0000 UTCWell. The cross over may be best to put on hold. I don't mind that.
OhioOkie
2018-02-23 06:02:24 +0000 UTCWhat one way to approach it is to have Ayame get caught in a college experiment where she is in a college tour. The tour takes her into a lab that is trying to do an experiment to create gravitons. She lingers back of the group as she is fascinated with the equipment. The professor earlier says the machine just was built but not checked out yet. She bends over and ask what this red button is for and pushes it and a tunnel to another universe open and she falls in. What survives of hers is TBD. There she meets Aylia who has been guided there by the elf goddess to find an eleven relic that will help her. She is told to expect a stranger that will help her to get past the monsters. ... How Ayame can help could be in non combat modes. Like help to get around mobs or guards without fighting.
OhioOkie
2018-02-23 06:00:11 +0000 UTCFocus on Ayame I think for now. Later down the road when there's more of the main story released, there may be more natural places to insert the ayilia content.
Magikarp
2018-02-23 05:57:48 +0000 UTCI think this might be the best option. As much as I like Aylia, this crossover seems like it is difficult to do and maintain the integrity of both worlds.
Wendy Thorne
2018-02-23 05:56:43 +0000 UTCI vote for this option.
Agent 47
2018-02-23 05:46:29 +0000 UTCWhat do you guys think about just "dropping" the Aylia crossover for now, and just keep doing our game and when we have some extra time, work on a completely (absolutely free) short side game which would work like the crossover but overall have more time and resources dedicated to it? We can't go too small, and we can't go too big since it's just a patch, so how about not causing conflicts and do like "a special" side game?
Heaven Studios
2018-02-23 05:34:38 +0000 UTCAylia's role could be to help her get back home.
omgnerdrage
2018-02-23 05:34:15 +0000 UTCI like it, will consider it for sure.
Heaven Studios
2018-02-23 05:32:50 +0000 UTCOne of Ayame's primary motivations from the start is to earn money for her household. Perhaps the crossover path should begin with a mysterious treasure map (promising gold!) that leads her through a portal to Aylia's fantasy world. It could turn out to be a trap designed by monsters wishing to kidnap people from Ayame's world.
omgnerdrage
2018-02-23 05:32:04 +0000 UTCIf it really should be this aylia then she could be casted in this dimension to track and Günther down someone else from her world which traveled to this dimension for doing some evil things.
Mukor
2018-02-23 05:30:30 +0000 UTCBut, Aylia is a elf, in your scenario she's just a normal girl? That would piss off a lot of fans.
Heaven Studios
2018-02-23 05:25:50 +0000 UTCAt least for the meeting of the two there does not have to be a reason, just coincidence, a talk, one vibe and then the spend the weekend together, which leads whereever it leads.
Mukor
2018-02-23 05:22:00 +0000 UTCHmmm, that has potential... Just need to figure out how would Aylia end up in that convention coming from her world and why her path would cross Ayame's.
Heaven Studios
2018-02-23 05:13:20 +0000 UTCThank you ^_^
Heaven Studios
2018-02-23 05:12:02 +0000 UTCTrust me, we thought about not doing it / postponing it for later, I 100% hear you! It would cause us a lot less stress for sure, because we can't half-assedly do it, we can't just invest some resources and dish it out easily like we did with Chloe. Postponing it for later would also allow us to wait for a YummyTiger more substancial release that we could base ourselves on when it comes to personality and what not. We'd like to achieve a compromise where "everyone is happy".
Heaven Studios
2018-02-23 05:11:53 +0000 UTCCould be a convention weekend (logical reason for an elf/costume), you Meeting her friday at work, talk with her and both like eachother. Then clubing in the evening, an a weekend together on the convention, Park etc. In think this ca give a lot of opportunities ( ffm, lesbian...)
Mukor
2018-02-23 05:10:52 +0000 UTCWhy must there be an Aylia patch? Why not focus your time and resources on finishing the game with the original cast and stop looking for cross over characters that cause more problems than they’re worth?
Agent 47
2018-02-23 05:07:21 +0000 UTCYou guys produce quality stuff, so I trust whatever you guys decide to do.
CharDucks
2018-02-23 05:01:18 +0000 UTC
