Heartstopper Season 2 Reaction - Episode 7 "Sorry"
Added 2023-08-27 05:00:03 +0000 UTCHey beautiful people,
Welcome back to another video and to episode 7 of season 2 of Heartstopper. Strap yourself in and get ready to see me receive further emotional damage from this wonderful show.
I was definitely in my feels this day. And it shows.
Hope you all enjoy and I'll see you all in the comments!
Love, always ♥️
Comments
I watched this episode couple of times. Only now I relised how beautifully was changed the description of AroAce feeling, from Isaak saying something being wrong with him to Lambert student saying feeling different. Just different. Oh Alice ❤️
aniatka
2024-08-01 20:07:46 +0000 UTCAs a parent I can’t relate to Stephane at all. I’ve never met my own father, but having an apathetic, completely uninterested parent must be worse. There is nothing in this world that would make me treat my own children in this manner.
Brian Sheehan
2024-02-13 20:12:20 +0000 UTCJames is such a lovely character. I don’t think he is back next season, which is a shame.
Brian Sheehan
2024-02-13 19:45:19 +0000 UTCIt's not Charlie's responsibility. Anything Ben does in the future is not Charlie's fault or was ever his responsibility to prevent. Ben makes a choice to hurt people, no one forces him to. His environment may have contributed to the thoughts of it, but at the end of the day, he is the one who makes the conscious decision to hurt people. Ben did something unforgivable, abuse a partner, and he needs to know that and admit it because he will ever find any sort of healing. When he apologizes, there is no admission of the abuse he caused, being a 'bad person' doesn't even add up to abusing a partner. Maybe after Charlie tells him exactly what he did, Ben can actually admit it and work through it himself.
Alex
2023-09-03 01:29:14 +0000 UTCI definitely think Charlie left that conversation feeling more healed. It didn't fix everything because you can't just 'fix' trauma (which is the reason why you don't have to forgive someone), but also because Ben isn't the whole reason he is struggling, Ben is just part of the reason. Also, I think you can argument and say that Ben may have left it slightly healed too. He didn't go into the school, but maybe he finally understands what he did wrong. And when you do something unforgivable, like abuse a partner, you need to admit what you did was wrong before you can change and eventually heal.
Alex
2023-09-03 01:26:56 +0000 UTCI have watched this reaction a couple of times now and still feel like I need to collect my thoughts. Remember how I said on YouTube that your reaction to E6 was on another level? Well, this one has levelled up once again. Much more to come from me on this episode and on your reaction to it... I've just got to get it all out of my head and into words. 😭
Dave K.
2023-08-30 01:02:09 +0000 UTCI’m currently in the middle of watching this reaction and just saw the part where Issac is discussing the art piece about being Aro/Ace. I definitely cried during this scene when I watched it. Your reaction really resonated with me. I am 36 and just discovered the Ace label about two years ago when a friend that I was doing a show with came out as Grey Ace. I had no idea what that meant so I went home and researched it. I felt I finally understood a part of myself for the first time. It made me realize that there was a reason I had never really had the same reactions to things my friends had. There is still so much I don’t know, whether I might be Demi or Gray Ace or if I’m Aromantic or not because I haven’t had those experiences. However, just having an answer to one part of my life was so freeing and finally being able to find characters in books and Heartstopper that resonate with some aspect of my journey is so powerful. I just wanted to share. ❤️
Laurie Barber
2023-08-29 16:24:17 +0000 UTCIf Charlie had been through therapy and had found enough healing and poise to offer the gift of a measured response, then that would have been ideal. Had I been confronted with my abuser today, I could do that. However, it's not fair to assume that Charlie would be able to do that without the benefit of professional help and distance. He's shown so much growth in just realizing that the little voice in his head doesn't belong there and that cutting off toxic relationships are necessary for healing. I hope Ben gets lots of valuable therapy one day, but Charlie was not equipped to navigate that conversation with more finesse than he did. My heart breaks for them both, but ultimately, it's not Charlie's responsibility, and it's just too much.
Kt B
2023-08-29 02:26:57 +0000 UTCHonestly, I declined to become a parent because I was so afraid of what I would do. My sister and I vowed never to be like our mother because we both agreed she was so awful, even though it's absolutely clear that she loves us both very much. My sister desperately wanted a child and adopted, but channeled so much of that awfulness without even realizing it. Any time I would say something, she'd respond with, "sure, WE didn't deserve that treatment because we were good kids, but MY kid is genuinely a bad seed and actually deserves it." One of the most chilling things I have ever personally witnessed in my life is seeing someone who vowed to undo the harm visited by her mother just simply reincarnate it with such massive lack of self-awareness and delusion. There was a specific day where I said to myself, "Maybe I won't be able to help it - maybe I'll be powerless to break the cycle, and the only way to stop it is to not even start." It helps that my biological clock never started ticking and making the choice not to have children was never a struggle, but that is my gift to the world. My genetic line ends with me, and I have broken the cycle by not letting it begin again.
Kt B
2023-08-29 02:19:07 +0000 UTCI'm sorry aren't you Brits always complaining about your unemotional cold female figureheads. Too quiet and stoic. .. fine U N. Sec't General works
Trey Cummins
2023-08-29 02:13:29 +0000 UTCYeah, I'm really conflicted about the Ben apology. I do think it raised important points, and there is no obligation for Charlie to forgive Ben or even moderate his emotional reaction to Ben's apology. As he said, he was ambushed. On the other hand, his reaction is going to set back Ben's progress so much, and neither Ben nor Charlie are leaving that conversation feeling any more healed. It's going to take lots of therapy for both of them to move past that. Even though Charlie is showing growth in understanding his own worth, honoring his truth, and realizing that the little voice in his head isn't right, it's heartbreaking to see how much further there is to go.
Kt B
2023-08-29 01:59:45 +0000 UTCI agree with your interpretation of the parental failings here. The thing I find most heartbreaking in the scene where Nick's father says goodbye is that I can see Nick is protecting himself with his crossed arms, but if his dad had opened his arms to him like he did to David, he probably would have gone in for a hug anyway, meaningless as it would have been. Hugs are life to Nick, but his dad couldn't even give him that, and he was holding himself together through that whole exchange. His face, his posture, his micro-adjustments to his dad's proximity, you can see that he's just held together through his own willpower, and that if his dad had shown the warmth or genuine contrition he craved, that stoicism would have just dissolved. It's a tough role to bring sympathy to, but I agree that Bash made Ben believable and heartbreaking. If there is any depiction of his storyline from Solitaire, I think it really would break me. I really don't want to see it. I just don't think I could.
Kt B
2023-08-29 01:46:15 +0000 UTCIt's a little moment, but it always makes me grit my teeth when Jane says to Sarah, "Oh, we're very used to drama in our house." It's like - hmmm, why is that? Given that Charlie is so kind and thoughtful and sensitive, and both Julio and Tori support him in their own quiet ways, where does that drama come from? I feel like Jane is much more nuanced in the books, but I see why they've made her more brittle here to really underscore the effect of parenting on impressionable children. I had a lot more compassion for her in the comics, but in the show my jaw just tightens whenever she has a line. Also, when Nick Nelson, who uses hugs to heal the world, doesn't open his arms to you as you are going out the door, you know you messed up. Stephane gave him an awkward arm pat after hugging David, but you could see from Nick's body language that he didn't expect a hug from that man. A hug would not have mended a single broken promise, and Nick was expecting nothing from Stephane. You can see the hurt in his eyes and the ambivalence in his posture, and if Stephane had given him a hug, he would have taken it, but he knew it wouldn't mean what it needed to mean. I love this season for its various scene pairings, and my favorite little pairing in this season is Tori and Nick, which really solidifies in this episode. They become Charlie's safety net, and they love him so much that their trust migrates to each other by extension. That scene in Solitaire broke me, where Tori yelled at Nick, but he knew what to do to rebuild that trust, and they remade their powerful alliance.
Kt B
2023-08-29 01:23:57 +0000 UTCI also cheered Charlie's confrontation with Ben on the first watch. After multiple rewatches though, I wonder if Charlie is overly harsh. The way Ben's face crumples as he realizes his apology is being rejected is tough to watch even from an evil character. I can't help but wonder if Charlie had offered maybe not complete forgiveness but some kindness would it help prevent Ben from continuing to inflict hurt in Solitaire?
Mark Edwards
2023-08-28 19:20:21 +0000 UTCYes Sarah’s kitchen did have that island in Season 1! Remember when Nick was telling Sarah about his dilemma with Charlie’s birthday party and the date with Imogen in episode 5? She was leaning on it when she said to him “I don’t follow” when Nick said Imogen’s dog died.
Marc Acosta
2023-08-28 02:17:55 +0000 UTCOf course we know what an excellent actor Kit is. But I am blowen away that from the dinner on, Nick looks so adult. I swear he has grown ten years in an afternoon.
Dennis Verner
2023-08-27 16:56:44 +0000 UTCThere’s nothing more comforting than a good Hug
Diane Furlong
2023-08-27 14:46:51 +0000 UTCSomeone said that Nick's Love Language is touch. That's why Nick Nelson hugs have such healing power.
Steve Teeter
2023-08-27 14:25:46 +0000 UTCSorry, she's ineligible. Have to be born in the USA. But Prime Minister Tori Spring would work just fine.
Steve Teeter
2023-08-27 14:21:05 +0000 UTCSpeaking as a parent, if I ever come even remotely close to treating my children the way Darcy’s mom or Nick’s dad treat theirs, I will be so horrified. Honestly, one of my biggest fears as a parent is worrying I might do something that makes my kids feel the way I did growing up: like who I am as a person doesn’t matter. This episode is such a beautiful, but emotionally heavy one. I cry every time I watch it.
Charlie
2023-08-27 13:59:26 +0000 UTCIt’s not going to be possible for me to say much that others haven’t already said, but that’s not going to stop me from saying them. There are so many powerful moments in this episode that are beautifully written, directed, and acted by this phenomenal cast. Isaac’s journey to understanding his sexuality is heartbreaking and then wonderful to see. The presentation of Elle’s painting (which it took me a long time to realize is inspired by the painting she sees in the Louvre in episode 5) is heartwarming, as is Tao’s growth in his reaction to it. The scene with Ben feels so necessary to me that it justifies any questioning people had about the character appearing in this season, and the repurposing of the speech that Charlie gave to Harry in the comic is absolutely pitch perfect. (And I have to say, kudos to Bash for playing a character we’re never going to like with more depth than most actors would give him. In many ways it’s a thankless role, but it gives Charlie a catharsis that is important for us to see.) The scene at the dinner table is so believably awkward and yet once again, so absolutely necessary for Nick. And once again, Kit is amazing in the subtlety of his performance. The ending with Darcy is devastating, but once again, a very real story line that too many kids have to go through. In short (which this paragraph is not), it’s hard to see how this episode could have been any more impactful or brilliantly realized, and I totally appreciate your emotional reaction to it, emotions that are completely earned by this amazing show.
Lane Wright
2023-08-27 13:06:54 +0000 UTCI loved this episode and I loved watching you react to it. I know I've said it before but that conversation you were expecting with Harry in episode 6 was much more powerful with Ben in episode 7. I really don't think you're ready for episode 8. I know you've already reacted to it and its just not up yet but it continues playing with your emotions until the final moment.
Ryan Walter
2023-08-27 11:04:01 +0000 UTCJackie, please don’t Ever feel like you have to Apologize for feeling emotional! This and episode 8 are such powerful episodes! They certainly tug at everyone’s heartstrings no matter what one’s journey has been. There’s a lot but a couple of things stand out for me. First off, Tori is the Best Ever!!! Seeing the hug with Elle, Charlie, Isaac and Tao is just so beautiful and I feel like same way about the hug in, I believe it’s episode 4 in Paris, with Nick, Charlie and Imogen. Each of those characters are in their Safe Space at that moment. You’re Amazing Jackie and I’m sending huge Hugs to you! Thank You
Diane Furlong
2023-08-27 10:06:51 +0000 UTCi cant waite until final episode i hope we dont have to waite to long and iam so happy with charlie standing up to ben he need to hear that and i love how nick stand up to his bother and his dad now they both can move on and just be happy in love. but its going to be hard but they both suppot each other and they got family and true friends as well so they never be alone and they both care and love each other its beautiful to see this they got each other for a very long time
lisa mcarthur
2023-08-27 08:51:32 +0000 UTCOk. I'm going to forego commenting on this one. It's just too raw. Just wanted to say sorry Jackie. I did warn you this one would need Kleenex aka tissues. I'm still torn on the charlie Ben confrontation. Don't pile on wait. Having lived thru that type of relationship I get it's cathartic... But it's also embittering. He's developing a strength like slamming to door on Harry. But true healing in my mind comes when they no longer have the power to effect you. True inner peace comes at that point which is , in my mind, why charlie has an eating disorder. While this is a step in the process it's far from healthy. So I cannot celebrate the reaction as I know it's still a long trek back and that's just the beginning. In my opinion Ps Tori Spring for President
Trey Cummins
2023-08-27 08:29:57 +0000 UTCAlice did it again!! E7 started with a happy Darcy and ended with a sad Darcy like s1e7. We repeated s1e2 when Nick stretched Charlie’s picture of full plate. The umbrellas from s1e3&4 were back e7s2. We saw what Elle saw in the Louve same as S2E5. That’s why Charlie always struggled with food because Ben took away his control 💔😭Ben’s final goodbye as he’s not coming back. S1e2&8 when Charlie says platonic bffs and then continues to call Nick “mate, pal, bro & supportive straight friend”. Nick finally looks up eating disorder. Alice brought v1-3 to life in this episode, especially ending s2e7 same as s1e7.
Tina Stellato
2023-08-27 08:29:50 +0000 UTCI am both happy for you seeing this representation and feeling that validation and also worried that you will definitely need a bigger box of tissues for the finale. Did you notice that although David gets a hug from Dad, he still has to correct him on the university he attends- Dad doesn’t even know that, despite giving the impression that David is his favourite. The heartbreaking thing here, for me at least, is that the physical placing of the actors and the distance between where Nick is standing and his father before they say goodbye suggests it’s too late-they will never be closer. Nick’s folded arms, that awkward pat on his arm and the front door closing had me reaching for the tissues myself. Of all the important aspects of this episode, the one that resonates with me the most is the exploration of how poor parenting has affected Darcy and Ben so differently. Darcy stands up to her abusive mother and walks out, tries to stay true to herself and to Tara; Ben walks away from the rainbow graphic, not allowing it to reach him, then turns his back to the camera, surely signifying his inability to understand and change. The only thing I would say in something like defence is that Bash makes Ben completely believable and is somehow able to let us see a heartbreaking glimpse of the young man he could be. I would love to be optimistic that he might find some redemption but if there’s anyone out there who hasn’t read Solitaire, Tor’s story, Ben has a small but significant role there, so you can find out what happens to him. Thanks for your heartfelt and honest reaction to a very emotionally demanding episode. You weren’t venting. You were expressing! 😊 That’s why I joined your Patreon after watching Heartstopper reactions to season 1 on YouTube. x❤️
Graham & Ruth May
2023-08-27 08:24:34 +0000 UTCHi, watching this scene with Darcy at the end always reminds me of how shitty my parents are. I’m easily a much better parent. To the point where my 10-year-old gets offended and confused at the comment from Nick to David about “acting like a 10-year-old”, because he would just never act like that himself 💜 Watching reactions from people who share their own stories and journeys, also helps me to be a better parent for my queer kid and their ally brother. Thank you, honestly.
Kim Engel
2023-08-27 07:52:34 +0000 UTCThe Charlie/Ben scene is so powerful. I wish someone had told me that to me at 17/18-- that when someone make you feel like crap about yourself you don't have to accept their apology-- and I volunteered at a Domestic Violence charity at the time. The dinner party scene gets me everytime but I ways come out of it feeling so proud of Nick. Please don't ever apologise for being emotional during an episode... it happens to all of us at some point. Especially with this beautiful characters.
Kay
2023-08-27 07:20:15 +0000 UTCHi Jackie and good morning ! I watched every episode at least 20 times till now , but today I was crying the most😪 I love to watch heartstopper with you ! Im Not good in finding the right words basically, I enjoy how you do this ☺️ Im definetly Not ready for episode 8, with you, but at the same time I cant wait for it.💗 Happy sunday from Germany
Prinsassy
2023-08-27 06:34:25 +0000 UTCAlrighty! Watched it. Some comments: So, Jackie, I'm sure you avoided any interviews about S2 (which is understandable) so therefore I'll fill you in on Seb announcing that this was his goodbye from the show. He will not be back for S3 Also. the rainbow wave is (stated by Alice) a direct callback to s1 finale where Nick and Charlie have their beach wave. Where Nick let's it envelope him. Ben walks away and rejects it. There are multiple times this season where we get the juxtaposition of Nick vs Ben an how they handle(d) similar situations. Both are roughly Bi, both like(d) Charlie, Nick has a supportive home life/Ben has a confrontational home life. Alice explored how different upbringings and surroundings can result in different paths exploring the same journeys. Lastly. The Issac aro/ace lightbulb scene at the exhibition is so beautiful. It resonates so hard with me and I'm sure many others finding out they are not weird, but infact also just on the aro/ace spectrum (I'm homoromantic/greysexual). Alice did such a great job articulating it in their writing and we are all the better for it ❤️
Michael D
2023-08-27 05:59:24 +0000 UTCI've been waiting to see you react to two parts in this ep! And they come back-to-back (regarding Issac & Charlie) ❤️
Michael D
2023-08-27 05:02:55 +0000 UTC
