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Romance in Ashe & SDA: Immersive vs. Sandbox

(Not pictured, Serana/Ashe can romance female Dragonborns as well)

Quick heads-up

As I've started prepping for the banter between the two, I’ve wrestled with this system for months because I wanted three things to coexist (especially since you can romance characters in both of my mods):

After a lot of testing (and plenty of late-night “what if” flowcharts) I landed on a simple split that lets every playstyle breathe without breaking character integrity. Here’s how it works.

The Two Modes

*Note: You do not need to have romanced Ashe for this to trigger. If you have not romanced Ashe, this decides whether or not future romance with her is gated or permitted. If she is already romanced, this decides whether you end the romance or continue it.

Note II: Serana already recognizes existing (vanilla) marriages and opts out of romancing you early. With other characters you can romance (like Auri), if it does not use the vanilla system Serana does not recognize it. I'm open to updating this, but the authors of said follower(s) need to get in contact with me first so we can update the banter integrations accordingly.

Note III: Serana is the first banter partner of Ashe. Ashe currently does not detect other romances (vanilla or modded) and will change in the future as integrations come in (just handled slightly differently as Ashe is more open).

Note IV: Choosing Fantasy disables exclusivity: Serana and Ashe won’t acknowledge each other’s affections, letting you romance both freely without conflict or consequences. It mimics base Skyrim’s hands-off approach - no jealousy, no narrative fallout - ideal for players who prefer uninterrupted, sandbox-style romance.

Why bother splitting it?

What doesn’t change

Whichever mode you pick…

I want your thoughts

This split feels like the best balance, but I’m still open to feedback.

Drop it here, on Discord, or the Nexus page. I read it all - even if I can’t reply to every comment! :)

ty ty, stay awesome folks! - Marty

Romance in Ashe & SDA: Immersive vs. Sandbox

Comments

Little late to the party here, but I have thoughts: 1. Serana is thousands of years old, she's probably seen lots of lovers come and go. I doubt she'll be especially concerned with exclusivity, especially coming from let's just say an "interesting" family where depravity was the norm. She may value honesty and loyalty, but I think at her age she's mature enough to share. 2. If the player convinces Serana to cure herself, that's a different storyline. If she's willing to give up immortality for the player, that should require a level of commitment that goes beyond any poly situation. 3. Ashe and Serana are both highly intelligent, independent and strong-willed women/robots. It would be great writing and character development if they could have an adult conversation where they discuss their stances in front of you, and then put the choice to the player. Self-assured women should be mature enough to have the talk with little to no input from the player, until it's time to make a decision only the player can make.

John-Rick Dudley

Your "reality/fantasy" system has my vote too -- everybody wins. In most cases, I eventually run out of new banter with any companion and at this point, I give them one of my homes and move on to another companion. "Can't I have you both?" -Shepard (Mass Effect)

Allie-Wan


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