Buffy The Vampire Slayer 5x16
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So here it is...the most heart breaking (I HOPE) episode of BtVS! I have no words, enjoy my tears I guess...
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So, I am new to the Patreon, but I have been a Buffy fan since I was literally, like, 6 years old. And I'm about to be 28, so that's damn near 22 years. I've seen the show more times than I have fingers and toes, but one thing that I NEVER picked up on until my most recent rewatch was when Buffy was sitting on the swing set with Warren's robot in the previous episode... and the robot starts saying things like "in every cloud there's a silver lining" or "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade"... and then she says "It's always darkest before--", but isn't able to finish. Obviously the saying goes "It's always darkest before the Dawn", so I always assumed that this was just foreshadowing the rest of the Buffy/Dawn/Glory storyline. But now I also understand that she was also telling Buffy exactly what she needed to hear, leading up to Joyce's death... which is arguably the darkest moment of her entire life. As someone who is TERRIFIED of losing my mother, I know it's inevitable. Sometimes the fear paralyzes me and there are so many times where I have to skip this episode (not because it's bad), but because I can't take it emotionally. Thank you for being so open and vulnerable and sharing your very real, authentic reaction with us. 💖
Tyler Asberry
2023-09-11 21:52:54 +0000 UTCComing back to this episode (more than slightly inebriated), I love and hate this episode/show. From my own experience, Tara was right. Even after 15 years of chronic illness, it was still sudden. Amber Benson at her absolute best.
Nicholas Corgan
2023-07-07 04:24:28 +0000 UTCthis episode shook me and broke me 2.
chunkylover117
2023-02-28 06:37:01 +0000 UTCI'm a new patron so I'm just running through your reactions from the start but seeing this was recently done, I had to check it out. This is a stand out episode of Buffy, and I say that as someone that definitely prefers Angel as a show. Your reaction was heartbreaking and understandable and you shouldn't feel silly or self conscious, I think it was exactly what people expected. Anya especially gets to me and as someone who is autistic, I felt her struggle to want to understand but not really getting why everyone around her is acting a certain way. I watched this with my own mum a few years ago when she discovered the show, but since she is blind I had to describe the episode to her and I found myself really struggling. She was so relieved and then angry at the fake out and it was so surreal audio describing Buffy's grief over losing her mother to my own mother. There are still many dramatic moments to come in this show but this will always stand out as one of the most tragic and memorable television episodes I have ever seen.
Joel Featherstone
2023-02-16 01:47:55 +0000 UTCOne of the more underrated moments is at 27:30, when Anya randomly grabs the blue sweater that Willow's been searching for, from under a cushion on a chair.
JoDaNa81
2023-02-07 22:29:34 +0000 UTCI would also add when I watched it originally most people thought season 5 was the last season. Just something to bare in mind as you approach the end.
Crabash
2023-02-03 13:20:30 +0000 UTCI'm 53, I watched Buffy when it first aired and have binge watched many times since, don't be hard on yourself, it still brings a tear to my eye. For me it just shows how good this show was, to get you so invested. You should also remember ho long ago this was, a lot of the show was ground breaking back then.
Crabash
2023-02-03 13:18:06 +0000 UTCSorry Dak, this is such a tough one. I think they kept showing us the body, because it's all so weird- it's them but it's not, it is necessarily the material focus of the 'what needs to be done' after a death, but it's in the context of this huge spiritual/emotional shock, so there's an incongruity about that. And I think Dawn feels she has to see it, to process what's actually happened. But it is hard to watch. Hugs x
Bri
2023-02-01 15:41:01 +0000 UTCNever apologise for your feelings, including showing and expressing them.Sure going into a rage and running up the street smashing all the cars may need some sorrys. Your feelings show your true self. Displaying that to a wider audience takes great bravery, that is nothing to be ashamed of.
Shaun Houghton
2023-02-01 10:41:39 +0000 UTCThis was the episode I most dreaded for you, but also most looked forward to, which makes me feel like a complete bastard. Highlights were obviously the emotions surrounding her death, but also Xander's mini rant, Willow's emotions while trying to decide what to wear, Anya's bit. And no, it's not the norm in the US for paramedics to leave the body at the scene. They transport the victim to the hospital, performing CPR and other life-saving techniques on the way. Only a doctor can give time of death. My stepfather died on October 1st, 2022 at 6:30 am, but his official time of death is most likely at a later time after arriving at the hospital. This is the worst episode but also the best episode. The "I need a long, tight hug" episode.
Brian Dworak
2023-02-01 07:57:23 +0000 UTCYou asked why Joyce had to die (just like Anya did... hmm), whether it was the actor or just Joss being evil - why she couldn't be alive until the end of the series? I think Joyce had to die for what the show is trying to be. The show is about growing up, and about life, condensed into Buffy's story over 7 seasons. Buffy had to lose a parent over the course of the show, because we all lose a parent or someone else close to us during our life. Some parts of life the show can represent in monster metaphor, but this one had to be real. And try not to feel bad or foolish for showing your emotion watching the show. The only people watching you react are those who this show has resonated with. We are all emotionally attached to the show, or we wouldn't be here. As Tara said, its always different, but we've all been where you were watching this. I'm sure you can understand this intellectually, but I appreciate its a different thing to not be self conscious while filming yourself. You have apologized for crying in previous episodes, but you don't need to, not for any of us. In fact, for this episode, we should be apologizing to you. On behalf of the internet, sorry for making you watch The Body, even if it was brilliant.
rattusprat
2023-02-01 07:01:09 +0000 UTCYes, it was not trolling. I experienced the same thing when my 13 year old nephew died.
Vicky N
2023-02-01 04:24:53 +0000 UTCTwo more things I wanted to say, but forgot in my previous comment. No, paremetics leaving someone in Buffy's situation is not the normal reaction the US (or in Canada where I'm from), but it does happen. I've seen commentors on this episode say that it happened to them. They lost a loved one and the paremetics left them because they were called to an emergency elsewhere. Even if it didn't ever happen in real life, I buy that it would happen in Sunnydale, where, due to the supernatural element, people are in danger or they die more often than in most places. There would only be so many people on call to deal with it. Also, thank you so much for reading my comment at the end. That was really sweet, and it meant a lot. I'm glad you liked it.
Raven Dark
2023-02-01 04:11:13 +0000 UTCAlso, Kristine Sutherland wanted to leave the show after season 3 as she was moving to Italy, which was why we saw so little of her in season 4, but Joss begged her to stay: "You can't leave, I need to kill you off in Season 5".
Thom Purdy
2023-02-01 03:25:55 +0000 UTCI consider this the best episode of the Buffyverse ever created. An artistic msterpiece. The writing, directing, cinematography, and especially the acting is all amazing. It certainly not my favorite episode, but it's truly brilliant.
Thom Purdy
2023-02-01 03:07:56 +0000 UTCJust for the record, Joss had intended to kill Joyce at the end of S1, but Kristine Sutherland's performance impressed him so much, and I guess he saw potential in what he could do with the character as the show went on. But he's made it clear multiple times that he always intended for Joyce to die at some point. As everyone's said, reacting to TV emotionally is the reason why shows like Buffy stay in our consciousness for so long. And it's my opinion that any art that is worth its salt strives for that, whether it being laughing, crying, or just thinking about ideas and concepts. And when it hits everyone in similar but different ways, that's the mark of a true masterpiece.
Leafsdude
2023-02-01 01:20:57 +0000 UTCAnd here we are. One of the most traumatic and heartbreaking episodes of TV there is. As you can attest, Dakara, there is so much in this that is just too real, which is what makes it so effective. I lost my own mother at 19, and damn, watching this still gets me every time even now - 30 years later. The bit that really gets me personally is Anya's breakdown. Her desperately asking why and expressing her lack of understanding - I'm weeping every time. Every actor did an amazing job in this one, but Emma Caulfield... wow.
Neil Silverman
2023-02-01 00:57:55 +0000 UTCIt was funny when this episode first came out (not the episode itself, obviously), because up until this a lot of critics had tended to dismiss Buffy as being 'that silly teenage Vampire show'. Then this episode dropped & it was like watching critics get whiplash enmasse, as they all did a complete 180 and went, "Holy shit, this is the greatest hour of Television ever produced, and it's freaking Buffy the Vampire Slayer?!". Suffice to say the episode made the critics sit up and take notice and the show wasn't so easy to dismiss afterwards.
Claire Eyles
2023-01-31 23:46:38 +0000 UTCOn the flashback and I guess dream sequences? The first with them having a group dinner I feel was to show Joyce wasn't just Buffy's Mum she was the Scoobies Mum. Xander has a terrible family and Willows are uninterested but they both have Joyce. Anya has no family and Tara lost her Mum and the rest of her family isn't great. So they all had Joyce as somewhat of a mother figure. The second I feel was meant to be Buffy's mind just hoping that it will all work out and Joyce would be ok. But in the episode it really is jarring. As for crying no one is going to laugh or make fun we all did the same. As for the writers experience. Joss Whedon lost his mother at 27 and drew inspiration from his experience at the time.
Collinson
2023-01-31 23:07:38 +0000 UTCYou are right about the Vampire being there for a reason. It was there because evil waits for no one. Your job is your job. It doesn't care about your life or your feelings. Life must go on. I love how Buffy, who usually knows how to deal with scary monsters, when faced with the death of her mother, has no idea what to do or how to deal with it. Which was the point of having Joyce die of a real world thing and not death by supernatural means. It meant she lost Joyce to something she can't fight. The Slayer can't solve this one. Dakrya: I shouldn't be this upset over a tv show. Yes you should. Dakrya: I should have just skipped this one. No you shouldn't have. Dakrya: Can we stop, please? Nope. Your rage over the fake-out was perfect. I agree with others it was needed, but I feel you on it. I cry-laughed there. Just so you know, I started crying even before I started watching. Not because of how hard this episode is to watch, but because I knew how much it would hurt you. The Body is not an episode. It's a right of passage. And you passed. Welcome to the War Room, Dak.
Raven Dark
2023-01-31 22:57:59 +0000 UTCRegarding the scene where Joyce appears to come back to life, I know it might've seemed like a cruel joke on behalf of the writers, but in my experience I think it was pretty accurate (in terms of wishful thinking) to the moment. I mentioned in my previous comment that my Grandma died at home when I was 8, she actually dropped dead in front of my Mum and me. We'd just finished having tea, Grandma had gone to her room, I was helping Mum clear the table, and then Grandma called out for help. Mum initially responded with 'Just a minute' (the first time Grandma called out to us it didn't sound that serious), so she called out again and we had just enough time to get to her & for her to tell my Mum not to panic & then she just fell back and died. We later found out she'd experienced a left ventricular wall rupture after a massive heart attack, which even today is considered not survivable. At the time I remember the complete panic at the start, and my Mum trying to do CPR, but she didn't know what she was doing, and me trying to get in there and do the CPR myself (we'd just been shown basic resus as part of swim safety at school) because I was absolute convinced that if I could just perform CPR, or get Grandma to respond, or help her to sit up (all things I attempted), that somehow she would just take a big deep breath & come back to life. It was less than a minute after it had all started, but in that time I was absolutely sure that something could be done & Grandma was just gonna wake up and be okay. Eventually (although not that long) we realised/knew she was gone, because her facial muscles started to slacken & shift into that 'death mask' look, which is when Mum and me just went into complete shock. Seriously Mum just went and made a pot of tea and then we both sat in the lounge, eerily calm, and drank cups of tea out of pretty china cups whilst there was a dead body in the room next to us. It was such a strange feeling, but in the moments leading up to that point my brain had absolutely convinced me that Grandma really was just going to wake up and be okay.
Claire Eyles
2023-01-31 22:55:30 +0000 UTCWell done in getting through that with your dignity entirely intact. It's an astoundingly well made and powerful episode. And I'm not sure that we're here to 'enjoy your tears' - while it's a 'reaction' channel, that doesn't mean we're all necessarily reacting at you but also with you. This episode will trigger strong emotions in practically everyone who sees it - that it does with you too is normal. I think most of us are here to enjoy you discovering such a superb episode in this wonderful series, not to wallow in your misery. Other than that, well, it's probably in most people's top ten, and probably top five if that don't find it too hard to watch. And, to think, you didn't get in this in some serious drama, but a silly mid-season replacement show about teenage kill who fights vampires. It's up there with Doctow Who's 'Heaven Sent' - an episode which steps out of the series formula and does something a bit magic.
Dave Ford
2023-01-31 22:53:38 +0000 UTCThis is a stunning episode of television but an understandably rough one to watch. I hope you did something lovely after putting yourself through that. Everyone is great in this episode and SMG’s acting was brilliant - but I think I love Anya and Tara in it most of all. The Christmas dinner flashback at the start was apparently added because they didn’t want to go straight into the immediate events of Joyce being pronounced dead from the rock out title sequence or have the additional credits that show over the opening scenes distract from the impact of what was going on.
Thistley Bee
2023-01-31 22:04:06 +0000 UTCI'm seeing a lot of comments about the episode that I was going to say, so I won't say repeat what has already been said. However, I would like to touch on the "fake-out" of Joyce reviving and being okay. You said that you felt like the show was trolling us, but I like to look at it from a different perspective. I feel like it was simply a depiction of what Buffy was desperately hoping for at that very moment. I've been in a situation where I saw things go a different way in my mind because I couldn't fathom the alternative. My mind wouldn't let me follow the events to the conclusion it was heading. It was Buffy's form of denial and her clinging to the last shred of hope she had. It may have seemed like a cruel trick to the viewer, but I could also see it as a reaction that the writer of this episode may have experienced themselves.
Krisan Seeley
2023-01-31 21:56:11 +0000 UTCIn such a heartbreaking episode there is one heartwarming mment that is so easy to miss. Around 29.12 in this reaction video when Xander says "the Avengers gotta get with the assembly" if you watch Willow's mouth, she mouths to Tara "I love you". It's such a small detail, but one I love.
Graham Nickless
2023-01-31 21:28:45 +0000 UTC*Gulp* In every reactor's life comes Buffy 5x16...
Raven Dark
2023-01-31 20:35:33 +0000 UTCRegarding the leaving the body in the house, I'm not sure what the protocol is in Australian states today, but when my Grandma dropped dead at home, when I was 8, we did have to wait for the Coroner, but the ambulance officers (ambos) also stuck around for a fairly long time. It's weird I can remember everything in detail right up until the ambos arrived, made the initial pronouncement of death, laid grandma out nicely on her bed and covered her with a white sheet, but after that I think there was just too much going on for me to take everything in. I do remember one of the ambos took me aside and was looking after me whilst the other took my Mum and Dad aside and started explaining what happened next. At that point other family members were arriving, so the house was really busy, plus I was obviously really upset. I do remember the gurney being bought in, presumably to take Grandma's body out, but I don't remember if the coroner had arrived at that point or if the ambos were just removing Grandma's body to the back of the ambulance to make it easier to then transfer to a coroner's van or if they were the ones transporting the body and the coroner just needed to be there as well. I know Mum had to travel to the hospital for the legal identification process, so Dad drove her up there once Grandma has been transported, and one of my cousin in laws babysat me and read stories to me for the rest of the night. From memory pretty much the only time Mum and I were alone in the house with a dead body was from the time Grandma died to the time the Ambulance arrived. It certainly wasn't a case of the ambos rocking up, telling us Grandma was dead and then leaving to go to another emergency.
Claire Eyles
2023-01-31 20:34:05 +0000 UTCThis episode is one of my favorites. I reckon I'm deeply masochistic. This is, by an insane margin, the coldest, rawest, most realistic depiction of grief of all TV history. It hits right, every time, and it hits hard, every time. One has every right to cry, to ugly cry even, we don't judge, because we all do. Random thoughts: Buffy has been prone to daydreaming, remember the scenes in Beer Bad when she wondered why "ugly shit" Parker acted the way he did. Of course she would create a fantasy in which she would be able to save Joyce. I keep saying "the ones who make you laugh the most will make you cry the most". Thanks, Anya, you proved me right. To this day, I still can't listen to her monologue without weeping. And I watched this episode maybe 50 times. That's a lot of tears. Oh, and her - of all people - wishing Anya didn't die... at this moment, did she wish to be a demon anew, able to grant this one? (BTW, "Xander decided he blames the wall" has to be one of the funniest lines of the whole series) Tara's part was the beginning of a stronger bond between her and Buffy. Ten episodes ago, Buffy only thought of Tara as Willow's girlfriend. They visibly grew as friends, and here Tara is the one Buffy could relate to the most. This is one of the most painful episodes ever. This is also one of those which make you think "It's not just a TV show. It's so much more". So yes, it's okay to cry. RIP Joyce. You will be sorely missed.
Gau Thier
2023-01-31 20:18:34 +0000 UTCI think as time passes, you will see the brilliance of this episode. The choice of no music added to realism and nuance. The different stages of grief: from anger, confusion, sadness, helplessness, empathy was so accurate. Even on repeated viewings, I get the tears flowing when Buffy hits the line "we're not supposed to move the body!" and Anya's "I don't understand" speech. What also moves me was when Tara told Buffy that "it's always sudden." It's the truth. My father died of throat cancer and even though we all saw the end coming and had time to prepare ourselves for the inevitable, when it happened, it still didn't feel like I had enough time to say goodbye. I think that's why this episode resonates with so many people and for so long. For a show about vampires, demons, werewolves, demigods, and whatnot, it's still relatable to every day life.
Gabe Morales
2023-01-31 20:06:31 +0000 UTCI've seen this episode like 10 times and it still fucks me up. The scene where Joyce is resuscitated may seem sadistic but I think it's more about what Buffy is imagining in that moment and in her denial. Everything in this episode feels so deliberate and acurate to what losing someone is like.
Axel
2023-01-31 15:13:13 +0000 UTCThe acting, directing and writing in this episode is so good that it makes it hit even harder. In a series about demons and monsters we have a real life death that hits harder than any mystical death could.
Collinson
2023-01-31 14:41:02 +0000 UTC"I don't feel good at all." Completely understandable, and it was part of the point. Joss was surprised when people said this episode helped them through their own issues, since this was intentionally written to have no resolution whatsoever, like in real life. Also, I loved how despite the recurring joke of Anya saying things awkwardly (including Xander's comment here), Buffy understood that she was being completely genuine. Maybe she was too shut down to think otherwise, but I'd like to think she understood.
Nicholas Corgan
2023-01-31 14:30:23 +0000 UTCThanks for pushing through Dakara. Your reaction was very similar to most of us. I remember watching this when it aired originally. The relatability of the episode hit me hard as well. Buffy is 20 in the episode and I was 20 when my father died (also after being sick, then recovering, then gone in a shock). Every time a reactor comes up to one of the milestone episodes the fandom is thinking. "See, we told you this is the best show of all time. You thought you knew before, but now you really get it."
Matthew
2023-01-31 14:29:59 +0000 UTCJust an overall amazing, uncomfortable (wonderfully so), episode of TV. Many critics consider it one of the best episodes of TV, ever, genre or not. You are not alone at all in not holding back the tears. I most remember the uncomfortable feeling, the no soundtrack, the awkward silences. P.S. I didn't catch this until someone else mentioned it, but Anya tells Buffy at the hospital that "I wish Joyce didn't die" which means a lot for an ex-vengeance demon.
Michael Abberton
2023-01-31 14:24:09 +0000 UTCPoor DaKRYa!! You’re not alone. Almost all of us ugly cried and I sometimes still do even after many rewatches. It’s not just a tv show. It’s excellent writing, production and direction, and top notch actors. It’s characters we have grown up with who are all grieving in their own way. I literally lost my mom, my older brother, my step-dad, my younger brother, and my grandpa within a span of five years (pretty much one a year between 2018-2022). For those of us who have lost loved ones, this episode hits especially hard. As to why Joyce had to die.... You are correct... Joss likes to rip our hearts out!! But he also wanted to show a realistic portrayal of death. He lost his own mother from an aneurysm and many of these portrayals were from his own experiences. I love that you picked up on the stages of grief in each actor and how they each handle the news differently. Buffy is in shock. Xander is angry. Willow doesn't know what to wear. Dawn is in denial and has a complete meltdown. And then we have Anya's childlike state of asking questions and not understanding how things work. (And I love how just when we have composed ourselves, Anya breaks us all again). Then there is Tara in the middle of it all as she empathizes and comforts everyone. This was an excellent episode and a great (and very appropriate) reaction. Don't ever feel bad about having a real reaction. That's what we are all here for. It's the closest we can get to feeling how we felt when we watched the show for the first time. (Hugs)!
Teresa Schultz
2023-01-31 14:15:57 +0000 UTCI always feel this way when I see this episode, but I never mention it in a comment on a reactor's "The Body" video, but I will now: I hate that stupid "Santa Claus disembowels children" joke. It's such crap. There. ... Anyway, it's easy to see that this episode is meant to be a very big deal, and it succeeds. It's really is so much of the show's collective talent being harnessed for a powerful 45 minute display of their capabilities. Great job, Dakara.And I honestly think that, if it helps, your response to the "Joyce revived" fake-out is the best that I've seen.
Koz
2023-01-31 14:01:57 +0000 UTCNo, in the UK emergency responders would call a police family liaison to sit with the person before the body could be taken away. In many cases, the police would even respond before the paramedics. No way they would leave a traumatised person alone with a dead body in their house.
Jon Dub
2023-01-31 13:48:10 +0000 UTCI don't remember how I felt when first watching it in 2009, but in 2016 my uncle died in the same way aged 54. Prior health conditions but no indication it was about to happen, nobody there to witness the moment. My parents tried CPR. So since then, watching it again is very personally affecting. Not just a rewatch but a re-experience. I think that's the idea, that this episode is a story about what really happens when a loved one dies. That's why it's so affecting: it's not just a TV show, it's a true story about one of the hardest things most people have to face in life.
Ed Green
2023-01-31 13:48:08 +0000 UTCAbsolutely with you there on the crying I've rewatched buffy so many times and yet i was with you there sobbing all the way and by the end my makeup was black streaks running down my face lol. This to me will always be the saddest and most heartbreaking episode of buffy. Its so real and in a show about supernatural things something so ordinary taking a character we've all come to love makes it so much harder imo. Not just for us but for the characters too. It's not something they can see and it's not somethin they can fight. I feel like I have so many thoughts about this episode but can't put them into words.
megsyjayner
2023-01-31 13:42:05 +0000 UTCSo in the UK, emergency responders “baby sit” dead bodies instead of rescuing people?
Rey
2023-01-31 13:31:09 +0000 UTCAbsolutely one of the best 40 minutes of TV ever made. Hard to watch, yes, but incredible at the same time. How this didn't win a raft of awards I will never know. And as for your crying...I would judge someone harshly for NOT shedding tears when watching this
Sally Rush
2023-01-31 13:19:12 +0000 UTCI watched this as a 17 year old lad, when it aired, and it tore me to pieces. I had recently lost my aunt, and it opened up some wounds. Watching it 22 years later as a married 39 year old father of two girls, it still makes me cry. Sarah Michelle Gellar knocked it out of the park in this episode....that girl is the master of on screen crying. Anya's rant is great too. But my favourite part, and most relateable is when Buffy opens her back door and just stares out and you can hear kids playing in background. One of the most vivid memories I have of when my aunt passed is going outside for air, and just hearing ambient noise, kids playing, people mowing their gardens, a neighbour washing his car, and I remember thinking "This is just another day for all of you" while I was going through hell. I always think of that moment when Buffy stares out the back door.
Jon Dub
2023-01-31 12:23:57 +0000 UTCThe Body is a masterpiece. Every single detail has its purpose and meaning, and you're supposed to be affected because this is nothing but a raw portrayal of those first hours after a loss. I've yet to see a piece of media that explores it as brutally honest as this. I'm genuinely more baffled when people have no reaction to it than when they're upset about it. It's a lot to take in on the 1st viewing (and 2nd and 3rd and 20 years later...) but it can be a cathartic watch. We've all been these characters or will be in the future. Death is the only guarantee we all get in life. Joyce's death has been planned for a while. There's a small foreshadowing in 4x01 about Joyce getting a funny aneurysm. An interesting detail I've only noticed much later when I was less of a sobbing mess - the plate dropping. We get Joyce dropping plate in S2 asking Buffy if she's for sure ready (Angelus reappeared - she wasn't) and earlier in S5 she drops plates not recognising Dawn (another revelation that Buffy wasn't ready for) and now from the Xmas flashback when they drop the plate together there's a hard cut to her lifeless body. Nobody is ready for that. Anyway hope you're ok and take care!
DB
2023-01-31 12:19:33 +0000 UTCWho ever mocks you for crying at the episode is a monster. i can never keep the tears in. Yes kids playing outside, the ticket and the vampire at the end symbolizes how in real life don't stop just because you are dealing with death. You mentioned bobby from sup right. I think this episode inspired his death episode. supernatural took alot of things from buffy in a good way.
Christopher simeon
2023-01-31 12:19:30 +0000 UTCso... this has to be one of the most well made, but most heartwrenching episodes they made. some of the flashbacks or thoughts they show with those flashes are evil, but do really well what they're supposed to do. You imagine what could have gone differently if you were there or if A happened instead of B. The most difficult scene for me is always Buffy telling Dawn. I think they wrote all the characters perfectly here. Everyone has a slightly different reaction and it feels authentic to their character, especially Anya. Also did you notice?, there is no music at all in this episode. Nothing. Thats what contributes a ton to how this episode feels and I think it was a brilliant descision. Honestly all the actors/actresses knocked it out of the park in this one.. It's been a while since I've seen this episode and the morgue now reminds me of a friend that passed away a few years ago. Also i think the Joyce's actress was already informed of this in season 3 :O. I know its entertainment, but I applaud your bravery in actually doing a reaction in full here. We are all feeling the feels with ya on this one. All my best to you and I'll look forward to the rest :).
Bart Aansorgh
2023-01-31 11:51:22 +0000 UTC
