Chapter 45 of A Lament of Snow and Magic
Added 2024-08-30 21:56:53 +0000 UTCThis chapter has been a joy to write. Dumbledore is such an interesting character when you take away all that fanon bullshit about him being evilz
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Yeah I can get why you wouldn't want to touch those potholes from canon with a ten foot pole lol. Its kinda sad though because originally JKR wanted to make the Harry Potter series super dark and mature, which is why he got what we did a magical world without really any magic haha or thought into how that society would work instead of just British. With the books being removed we know that Dumbledore sometime in canon had them removed because of riddles interest in them after hearing about it from Slughorn even if we don't know the specifics on the conversation itself like when as well as the specifics on when the books were removed i.e was it when Dumbledore became headmaster which was around the time of Toms graduation from Hogwarts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the envoy of magic what I was meaning was not necessarily the being giving his name but more in how the situation happened as there wasn't any 'Weight' to it, the envoy in how he acted just felt like Some Dude over a representative of a primal force and higher being. It wasn't that someone So powerful appeared for something so pedestrian but it was how someone so powerful was just there acting so personable and well human like even Cinder for all of how adorable she is still has that edge, that difference in mindset then a human. Do you get what I mean just that he was to 'human' in how he acted plus with the description on how he just served magic felt a bit short/lacking or off is the better way to describe it. I think that is in part for three things. 1. We know that gods exist in some form so it is weird that magic would be its own 'FULL' thing and how gods would hold Dominion over magic and certain aspects/concepts etc. 2. That magic is a 'singular being' and not a collection of varying entity's that govern certain concepts/aspects 3. That we're just getting introduced to such powerful beings for things that a really basic and should be below their 'Direct' notice. If the more personable 'human' portrayal of the Envoy was a deliberate decision - why did you decide to go that route then a more traditional 'formal' interpretation of mystical entity's? Sorry for the spew blurb haha just interesting to discuss
Killer Pickle
2024-09-04 14:19:07 +0000 UTCA lot of side notes lol. I did not say he removed the books because of Riddle, but rather we know they were hard to find if not completely removed by the time Riddle was in school. Otherwise, he would not have needed to ask Slughorn about it, although he still seemed knowledgeable enough about them, so perhaps Dumbledore could not convince Dippet to have them removed. Frankly, its a plothole that I don't want to touch as its irrelevant to the plot. The same point stands for the case of the books being aimed for children. JKR, for all her faults, did plan for the second book to be a lot more gruesome and certainly not for kids, yet her editors stifled her all the way. The same in books 3 and 4, her editors kept forcing the children book angle and she was forced to scrap many ideas and entire character arcs (Mafalda Prewett was one, and JKR stated she planned for an entire arc for Dean Thomas searching for his dad.) Thankfully, I have much better editors to bounce ideas off of lol. I did not agree with your take on the envoy of magic. The being purposely did not give his name for a reason, and I had a different vision in mind than the stereotypical way people portray magic. Nothing that wrote is really that original but you are correct that it could still work as one but I have no plans for such a story yet. I am barely a year old in my writing career and still too inexperienced to flirt with official writings.
Bub3loka
2024-09-04 14:14:22 +0000 UTCAlso what are your thoughts on what I was trying to say in the chapter about the envoy from magic during the ritual? Interested to hear your thoughts on that in particular. Also side note with how this story has been written so far it wouldn’t take to much effort to make it an original work, just with a bit more focus on a grander magical system then canon and how that would impact society I.e when real gods exist and the removal of some of the canon stuff. But yeah you could definitely make this an original work with not tooo much extra effort but ehh just a cool thought
Killer Pickle
2024-09-04 13:01:13 +0000 UTCYeah that all makes sense a lot more than canon lol haha. One of my biggest pet peeves with the canon is how it was written. It was originally written as a children’s book but then at around the third it became less ‘fantasy’ and more ‘realistic’ which makes a lot of the writing decisions not make sense when you actually need them to fall into a real complex world over a children’s book. Also side note with Dumbledore removing the books on horcrux’s that wasnt because he knew that Tom had made one just that he was aware that he had read about them at the time. Dumbledore didn’t remember the incident exactly, that’s part of one of the main plot lines in the fifth book which is Albus going through his memory’s to figure out the truth.
Killer Pickle
2024-09-04 12:56:47 +0000 UTCYeah, I do recognize you lol. I usually check reviews once every three days or so, so you kinda stood out. We do know that Dumbledore knew about horcruxes early on, as he was the one to remove all books with mention to it from the library since Riddle's time in Hogwarts. I find it implausible that a learned mage like Dumbledore would not know about something that honestly seems simple to make and would probably be known by the ICW as something to be wary of when dealing with possession cases. Never the less, I decided to err on the side of caution. I agree with your points which is why I was intentionally careful not to mention horcrux but instead used the more common term, phylactery. There are different ways for shades and wraiths to exist, but a horcrux is just one of many and the darkest of them. What he was certain of, was that something dark and evil resided in Harry's scar and that's all he cared about. Now that it's gone, he could focus more on trying to find and vanquish Voldemort, yet he is ridden with hesitation. If the diary was Voldemort's anchor to the living world, then why is he still alive? In the end, its a very convoluted thing and won't really affect the story much. Dumbledore is still incredibly busy with a lot of responsibilities that he can't just ignore. Hogwarts and its students will always come first to him than a wild goose hunt
Bub3loka
2024-09-04 12:10:27 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapters just became a member for this story after rereading the entire fic again to do a more informative review on some of the chapters, you may recognise me haha. Really hope Harry starts like an apprenticeship with Dumbledore or something, maybe having Dumbledore stepping down from his international position to focus more on Britain but also to train his 'heir'. Plus it would make sense with Albus not needing to worry about the Horcrux which was a major reason of his hesitancy with Harry in the past Bit of a timeline issue a noticed if you even want to call it that since this isn't a canon compliant story (being original is always better). So Dumbledore doesn't actually know Harry is a Horcrux until Fifth year. I've put the timeline here - First Year: Dumbledore's suspicions on Voldemort's survival are confirmed. - Second Year: Dumbledore finds out how Voldemort survived - Third Year: Dumbledore gets an incling on what the scar is due to Dementors - Fourth Year: Dumbledore's suspicions are reinforced due to resurrection - Fifth Year: Suspicions confirmed
Killer Pickle
2024-09-04 11:58:26 +0000 UTCAwesome chapter looking forward to the next one have a good evening
Swordcollector45
2024-08-31 00:18:32 +0000 UTC
