What you would want to see in a visual novel?

What if there was a morning news channel that reported on inmate statistics and humiliated them? Like “prisoner #57 has gone number 2 the most times this month so for next month they’ll have to wear a skunk onesie to show how much of a stink baby they are”.

It would be great if the caretakers/guards were dressed up as French maids/daycare workers that teased and humiliated the inmates.

I've glossed over a few of these suggestions and some of them are fantastic. Particularly glad someone asked for a little more info about what kind of Dystopian setting this visual novel will have. What would the characters in this situation be referred to as, Soap? Inmates? Subjects? Littles? Various elements would be good to see, but whether it translates well to what you are doing or how you want to story to go is another thing... First off, the mental regression. This could be administered with lots of things that could be done in a more realistic Dystopian setting. Direct and indirect hypnosis are favourites of mine. Behavioural conditioning through forced interactions and environments as well as both punishments and rewards too, the varieties of which could be many and plenty have been suggested by others so far. I can run off any specific ideas if you want? Second would be seeing how the characters respond to their "treatments". A mix of characters resisting on different levels, some opposing too much to the point of being broken with more and more extreme and bizarre mortifying punishments making them either non-resistant or even emptily compliant and finally those that adjust and are more accepting than the others. The "good girls" in a sense. Seeing that mix of characters would be really cool. Third, I agree with C.S. Fox's idea of having some sabotage in play. A base example of a scenario could be that one of the more timid and accepting girls gets tormented by another group and one of the more resistant/rebellious girls from her own group who has befriended her plots some revenge sabotage to shame them in some creative way or another. As I jokingly posted earlier, Tactical Espionage Regression. XD Is there specific software you are planning on using, Soap?

Maybe also add a bit of Something like the Gas from "Shits and Giggles" as one of the therapies. Where those who have offended quite a deal get gassed with a serum that regresses them the more Stimulus they get to certain areas.

Nekkie Kyu Bie

I think this is a good idea, with so many possibilities. I like the idea of re-Education centers, I think there should be different tiers for offenders,(i.e. minor crimes regressed to young child, more serious crimes regressed to infancy), I think there should also be a special section for repeat offenders that once they have undergone full mental regression, they are transferred to the special section for physical regression and placement with an adoptive family or surrogate womb (in this future, natural reproduction is difficult, so the government uses this as an alternative). just a few ideas.

I think it's a fan favorite and it would make sense in that context, so noted!

Pretty inventive punishment!

I love the idea of a gradual mind break and slow mental regression. And rewards for acting as you should based on your level of regression, but punishments that speed it up...

Brandon Aaronson

I like the idea of a Magic College visual novel. But that’s just my 2 cents

I'm down with this.

name5

Re-education collar? Like it detects when infantile behavior is displayed and it rewards the wearer?

clay

What if one of the punishments is to have one of the prisoners sit on the face of another prisoner who misbehaved and mess their diaper in front of everyone to make an example of the two of them. Like the girl underneath is begging for mercy but the girl on top just can’t hold it any longer.

Sablonanime

A favourite scenario of mine is when someone who looks after someone else is put in the care of that person. Mary babysitting Eclair would be an excellent example

Bashful Baby

I'm going to have to reflect on what would be the more efficient without being too much to handle on the dialogue tree, but different paths would be a must!

That's something I definitively see happening!

Someone else already said it but a way to willingly go with the program would be hella fun. As long as it doesn’t automatically end the story at least, I’d hate to make a choice and end up seeing a screen that says something to the effect of “several inmates were captured trying to escape and were sent to the conditioning nursery. You and your mommy happily continue your domestic bliss. The end.” I definitely think having two protagonists would be an interesting way to approach the game like how you did with Eclair and Fiona. You could split the different kinds of paths available that people above have already suggested and pair them to those characters who’s personality would most lend itself to a convincing rendition of the situation at hand. Maybe, (for spitballing’s sake) the rebel angsty girl is presented with the paths for “accepts it and is paired with a loving, wonderful mommy, fights it too hard and is regressed to newborn status, fights and assists the other protag in escaping” and the other girl is presented with “escape path, blackmail and promotion path, full regression path”. The issue here is that, in this scenario, if their stories intersected you’d have to create different dialogue and imagery based on what path and status each is on at the moment which sounds pretty damn tricky. Oh! And for a title or phrase uttered within the story may I suggest “Terrible 20’s”? : >

WitchySarcasm

I fully-heartedly agree. Having characters who retain enough of their mental faculties to decree their love of the system would be amazing. “Honestly? I never knew it before but this is everything I’ve ever wanted from life. My mommy actually loves me. She cares about me in a way nobody else ever has. Probably ever would, too. Listen, I get it. You don’t like fudging your pampers. That’s fine, and I ain’t gonna rat you out. But leave me out of it. I’ve got a sippy cup to finish and then mommy and I are gonna make cookies. And it’s going to be amazing.”

WitchySarcasm

Ide like a choice system similar to Perpetual Change kinda. Assuming the Re-Education leads to mind regression and such. Have it to where the More bratty or against the program you go, those who administrator the treatment give you more severe treatments that regress you further. While if you are more open to it and cause less trouble, the treatments are way less severe. Even so, whether you're a brat or not will still have effects on your character, Sever treatment causes more immediate changes like mental regression and losing your self. While compliance will have your character not have the same treatments, but naturally will lose bladder control as well. Also your attitude effecting yoour caretaker too also

Nekkie Kyu Bie

I’m a really big fan of having a bit of an innocent or kind protagonist and I love when they end up having a genuine connection with an equally kind caretaker. I think it would be interesting to have an issues with the protagonist really liking the nice caretaker and feeling little around them on their own, but then having a meaner or more manipulative caretaker who undermines their control. So you have the best of both worlds hopefully a nice and stern caretaker.

Ian Coleman

Noted!

An interesting concept would be an ab/dl searching for a person to connect with, not necessarily a caretaker but more a kindred spirit? Attending events in the area for the first time etc. and seeing their reaction to the local kinks scene

I was planning something like that but I'm a bit hesitant because it would also close other paths to explore (the main character being too moral).

I think it's going to be part of it!

There definitively going to be some mind fuckery going on!

Noted!

I was planning to have it hevaily girl focused but there will be messing!

There won't be magic, but change of diaper depending the regression level would be nice!

I think the main character being a Nellie Bly sort of character would be interesting. They aren't really a criminal or delinquent, so their morality is up to the player. Their goal could be to interview other prisoners and "families", or they might want to get punishments, or maybe there's a conspiracy/mystery that the reporter is desperately trying to find. Either way, it gives the player a lot of choice on what they want to do and why.

I would prefer a slow mental regression by a manipulative mother type of figure.

messing!

Hypnotism is idea I'd like.

zukami

I like to see a gradual mind break. Really small stuff at first like thinking the guards as parents, sucking thumb when scared to them having to admit what they want and who they are.

I really like the dynamic between Eclair and Fiona, so more of that. Not a fan of dudes, so none of that. Big fan of messing tho.

name5

this really is a me thing but id really like it to be only girls, no dudes, also minimal messing. The basic idea sounds good tho

Magic changing diaper like the further they regress the more baby like the diaper

Ryno Sensei

I'll be happy to work with you at some point! I think once I'll have clearer view of the setup and the slew of characters, I'll be happy to discuss with you. A visual novel is a kind of game, it's like a playable comic story!

Nice idea!

Thanks for the references, Erebus, I'll give all that a look!

I don't think I'll be able to mix regression tiers and path choosing at the same time, or maybe a simplified version of it, the two together may lead to too many dialogue branchs

It's a cool idea but I don't think it would work with the stup I have in mind, sorry!

Unfortunately, I plan to have a girl "cast" for this one, sorry!

I see there's a high demand for more punishment so that's definitively going to end up in the game!

We'll see, trips to the exterior may contradict some aspects of the setup i want to explore but I still keep note!

Some could be a bit too much but we can have ingredients of that in the game, for sure!

Lot of checkpoints, noted!

Unfortunately, I think it will be girls only, sorry!

Thanks!

The game will take place in a female only camp so you should enjoy it!

Oh, there will probably be similar stuff!

I think it can be part of the treatment, maybe not heavily insisted on, but it's always nice to have stuff like this.

Totally agree!

Hypnosis seems to be a fan favorite, I take note!

Different paths and way to play is a must have and I didn't even considered it until it was suggested! Not sure how it can interact with a regression system, we probably going to have to choose between the two.

I was planning to have the story setup in a female only camp but nothing is ready yet, so we'll see!

Nice, I agree!

Very cool idea!

Thanks for the last reference, I'll give it a look! It would be a near future in term of technology, and in term of dystopia, a heavily authorithan government, high in censorship, 1984 style.

Nice one, I can see that being the result of a particular path!

Dual protagonists, why not!

I just want to know whose diaper I have to kiss to write the summary for one of the chapters? Because shit man, I’d love to see something of mine wrapped up under the veneer of a comic. Something dark and twisted for the “laboratory/evil mental regression”. Oh man. A certain young woman sent to be an experiment for a new regression technique.... oh yes my precious.... we would like to try it....

Never tried a visual novel game engine so I'm curious to see how the potty system would work in it, I think different dialogue trees depending on the diaper state would defintively be possible.

Actually, that'd be a weird parallel. Perpetual Change is about something that seems like a utopia being worse than it seems. And now we have a dystopian game being planned.

The_Laurent

I do think it'd be interesting to be able to make choices about background at the start. For PC, the background of the main character was pretty set in stone, and everyone knew everyone else (even if you as the player were just meeting them, you were plopped down in the middle of their lives). But here for all the others on the island know at first blush, you could be many different types of person. Imagine if you could choose whether you'd been nicked for thieving (thus giving you a few shady skills), thrown in as the scion of some elite family who embarassed themselves too much (social skills, hedonism, or whatnot), or some sort of political activist (sometimes too outspoken, but with some organizing/teamwork skills, and some savvy and distrust that others might not have if they're taught to accept this as good or whatnot.) And then the background influences certain elements, or creates 'flags' for the VN to use for scenes/paths. Of course, this could both be very complicated and Very Serious, but then it's a story about a dystopia, and PC didn't really hesitate to both indulge in the fetish... but also reveal that it'd kinda suck to destroy people's minds and lives in exchange for power and wealth, even if it's in a way the authors and audience find really hot.

The_Laurent

Different paths corresponding to different approach of the game via choices is a very good idea!

like say for example theres a kanagroo trial at the start of the game and it sets up what type of reeducation they go under. I personally love the idea of a not regressed person made to act younger and conditioned to such things in some trained helplessness way. but then also give players freedom for competing ideas or punishments to occur. where possibly different branches of the place do sifferent programs. letting this game system choose what girl gets what treatment. (which would make more replay value out of set game, especially if your recycling art assets)

Hoshioni

ok, it really depends, do we play as the inmate or the ward? as long as were given a choice thats fine. I personally dont like overly messy stuff. so if theres a game mode that like deemphisises it, thatd be good enough for me. and will this be like one of those old Flash visual novels in where you navigate things via arrows or whatever or will it be purely things hapens and you choose how it goes?

Hoshioni

I’d like to see humiliation based punishments like baby bouncers, printed diapers, embarrassing costumes etc. maybe a tier system for the prisoners based on their underwear? Highest to lowest would be panties, training panties, pull-ups, white diapers and then printed diapers.

i really appreciate the aspect of perpetual change that allows the player to choose a regression tier. i enjoy the concept of a subject being regressed enough to the point at which she can have "accidents" and cannot walk properly but is also mature enough to be embarrassed by these things. similar to the way summer is in your rick and morty comic. A subject that is completely regressed cannot really be humiliated so that takes a lot of the appeal away, at least for me. In terms of fetish content i would like to see more humiliation and punishment kinks such as spankings, enemas and gags. it would be interesting if the player could be the one inflicting the regression treatment on others rather then being subject to it themselves.

I want to see a female diaper version of the classic British show "The Prisoner". Some good episodes are "Free For All" where Number 6 participates in a subverted election processes in The Village (maybe your prisoners could vote on who gets to be the "mommy" or "oldest sibling") and the episode"A.B. and C." where Number 6 is stolen from his bed while he sleeps and is hooked up to a dream machine that projects his dreams on a screen while scientists use the scenario to find out why he resigned being a spy. Maybe they could be regressing the prisoners to fins out secrets that they have? Kids are more pliable, and easier to get information out of. If you used these kinds of scenarios, there could be room for a lot of interesting plot lines. I'll include two links to youtube to the episodes in question to better illustrate my point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcdhFJXIyBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtL9cFufaLY

Erebus92

I'd love for the story to be on a remote island. Maybe the characters are from all over the world and that island is like a battle royale, where the last one to get babied gets to get out. Maybe the whole thing is televised or monitored by an organization. Maybe the participants are fighting each other, using items to babyfie each other or there are traps along the path. Id also love if each participant is from a different country like France, Canada, Japan, etc...

Gabriel Leblanc

I'd like to see a male protagonist for one. You could include a lot of cute humiliation aspects this way like drug or hypnosis-induced premature ejaculation as an excuse to put him in diapers, or penis shrinkage to humiliate him and make him more compliant.

Anony645

I would love to see a lot of punishments implemented, of course there is being made to wear a diaper and infantile clothes / dresses, etc, but I'd also really love to see some spanking. mouth-soaping, cornertime (either showing off bare-bottom or diaper), lots of public humiliation like being pushed around in a stroller or on a baby leash, bouncers, pacifier gags, etc would be very welcome Skill checks might be fun to add in as well, as you progress through the story you acquire certain skills and the game tests these values to see if you pass/fail?

DimZebra

I'm going to be the technical person here and say "A lot of check points". Or at least a way to save at will. Possibly even a way to choose the check points you start from.

leoryff Studios

Yes! Some sabotage and inter-camp power hierarchies could be fun to mess with (in both the literal and figurative sense~)

I personally would love to see more male characters in the spotlight

William Brewer

I'd like to see some options where you could sabotage the other campers. Maybe sneak around and ensure they have an accident in their sleep, thereby ensuring they're in diapers. Who's laughing now girls, huh?

2nded

Thispieguy1

For humiliation, maybe give a "reward" system for good behavior, this might include "field trips" to actual public places for children such as a Chucky Cheese, Sea World, or other places that could be child oriented. Naturally our lead characters could observe this as more punishment as they are forced to play with actual children, succumb to public messes and diaper changes. Honestly though, doesn't matter you'll do great either way. Keep up the good work!

Honestly, I think that (given the parameters supplied) anything could work. I look forward to what you do.

Iamnooneinparticular

hypnosis, mental regression, forced regression, maybe a little dark physical alterations like teeth lose or lose of leg control and I am total sold. I would really like to have a way of picking the level of regression, like if the player wants the character to regress anywhere between toddler to newborn, that could be interesting.

TBH, I would like a visual novel with a 1 on 1 regression outside of this setting in your art. As long as the protagonist is a girl, I will play it. No interest in playing a story about a boy being regressed.

anne

One of my favorite works of yours was summers forced feeding from the adventures from comic. Would love to see another scene like that somewhere in the story.

I would like to see more embarrassing moments. Incontince, accidents, bed-wetting, forced to diaper and public humiliation.

Training them to get aroused by diapers would be neat. Or some route where they end up really enjoying diapers by the end of it.

Levels of humiliation would be cool. Like when an inmate first arrives and is assigned they get treated like a toddler and if they continue to resist they get regressed more and more towards full babyhood in increasingly embarrassing ways (public changing, diaper checks in public, humiliation in front of others, etc...)

I always enjoy characters who will slowly come round even if it's fighting along the way. Also weight gain is something I am interested in but I know is not for everyone. Hypnosis once again yes please

Lil fox thing

In this kinds of tjings, I always like hypnosis or mental control. Also, being able to choose to be a model prisioner (aka accept the changes) or be rebelious. Both can have pros and cons, makes it more replayable. Maybe also explore more kinks, although that can be very hit or miss.

Hog Meg

If there's going to be punishment / humiliation spanking, potty training, or diaper checks in front of the other inmates as a group lesson is cool.

Thispieguy1

Hypnosis is a favorite for me

I'd love if there was a sub-plot in there somewhere where you find a camp rival (maybe the person who put you in the camp fell from grace, and shows up in your camp), and so you are trying to outlast them and keep your dignity longer as a pure personal pride narrative. Win or lose, I'm sure it'd be a fun ride!

A sissification route of course

Mr. Blight

Dystopian Settings are not really my thing but what type of dystopia are we talking about? Normal like Perpetual Change with a futuristic vibe? Maybe steampunk like "Detective Girl of the Steam Punk City"? I will give it some thought. Either way when I think Dystopian Society I think "Sharin no Kuni: The Girl Among the Sunflowers".

Cless

A reverse route where you regress your captors by either blackmailing them and swapping places or joining the facility as a baby to be and after proving yourself becoming a regressor and demoting your captors.

Some path that could allow you to escape and/or subvert the system. Maybe dual protagonists.

I know it's a pretty basic, gratuitous request, but I'd just like to see the option to have characters mess their diapers multiple times, and get different dialogue trees based on how full their diapers are.

I'd love a "cooperation" path for the player character to choose to go along with what's happening and embrace it. I'm (probably) not the only person who enjoys willing regression and diapering.

Samuel Albert Mell