I’ll agree with this. I think they needed a character where Nate could share his internal struggle with so the audience could see it or at least a scene or two. But I’ll go back to a comment I made in season 2. Hurt people hurt people. :(
MJ Eid
2024-11-17 15:56:11 +0000 UTC
I don't think they're being that hard on Nate here. They're coming around to him. I do think the whole Nate arc is kind of poorly executed because they went too hard in season 2 and made him so hatable. Like I see the vision of the arc but despite some people saying it was foreshadowed in season 1—it really wasn't—season 2 asshole Nate came pretty much out of nowhere right out of the gate and only got worse from there. It's hard to walk that back. I think they should have gone subtler with him in season 2, don't make him so douchey and arrogant, but just a little spiteful and bitter.
Christophe
2024-11-17 08:38:03 +0000 UTC
Such a good episode. It mirrors what has been happening in the US & England. Sam mentioned that they love him until he misses a penalty. That's what happened to some young black English players when they missed their penalties in a big game, they stopped being stars and were berated with racial slurs. Jason Sudeikis wore a shirt with their names for an event sometime after that game.
Eddie
2024-11-17 00:52:55 +0000 UTC
No spoilers, but... you should probably stock up now on a bunch of Kleenex for the rest of the season.
DTGstl314
2024-11-16 22:20:05 +0000 UTC
Okay I'll say this once and then I'll shut up about it—well, maybe just a tiny bit more in episode 9—but this show should have stayed away from politics. Not on principle, but just because it's bad at it. I know the show got some criticism for playing it too safe in the first two seasons, not having any queer characters and not mentioning at all the bigotry that black players have to endure in English football but the way they're trying to rectify that here really comes across as clumsy.
The political commentary is just so awkward and forced, and also so very surface-level and banal. The episode is just very heavy-handedly telling us what the political environment is so no viewer—who they know might not be too politically versed because this show doesn't necessarily attract super politically-minded viewers—is left confused about it and then just making the most basic, entry-level critique of it. Like I said, I'm fine with them introducing a bit of politics on principle because it makes sense, sports has always been deeply linked to politics despite what some people would like to believe. But the writers clearly have no experience with it and it just comes off as very inept, like you can tell that the writers don't really want to do this and want to move on from it as quickly as possible.
That said, Toheeb Jimoh and Nonso Anozie were great. One thing that has stayed consistently good in this show is the performances. But I feel like they could have gotten that personal story about Sam without over-specifying the actual politics of it all. Viewers are not stupid, we would have understood what was going on when we saw the ransacked restaurant.
Christophe
2024-11-16 19:31:34 +0000 UTC
I don't think it is that difficult to realize you don't want to be a - how they would say in Ted Lasso - Evil Wanker
Chad Gloria
2024-11-16 18:08:42 +0000 UTC
Don’t be so hard on Nate. You have to remember he’s learning who Rupert is and who he doesn’t want to be. No one is perfect. He’s also a really insecure person. Who has recognized he’s fked up for a few episodes now.
MJ Eid
2024-11-16 07:08:47 +0000 UTC
shoutout to xaro xhoan daxos.
mr joseph
2024-11-16 00:53:14 +0000 UTC
I think Sam’s monologue about how he’s treated as being loved when he plays well and hated when he fucks up or misses a penalty specifically is tied to the real life scenario where Bukayo Saka, Jadon Sancho and Marcus Rashford (all Black players for England) were treated horribly by the British media/people after their missed penalties led to their loss to Italy in the Euro 2020 Finals. There is also a trend from what I’ve seen from VERSUS that when England does well in a match, the media will use photos of white players but when England loses, they’ll use photos of black players
Josh Cerda
2024-11-15 22:58:01 +0000 UTC
One of, if not my favorite, episodes. The team rallying around Sam to combat the bigotry being displayed is just so beautiful and it makes me cry every time.
This show is the world I wish we lived in.
Ian Forbes
2024-11-15 21:54:48 +0000 UTC
Shocked you guys didn't recognize Sam's dad! He played Xaro Xhoan Daxos in GoT S2.
Purported74
2024-11-15 20:54:50 +0000 UTC
100% take Spanish, there are thousands of words that are similar to English or just the same. The hardest thing about it is the difference in structure, but once you learn it, it makes so much more sense than English.
Dutch is the language that is closest to English and shares our sentence structure but you'd have a lot less chance to use it unless you moved to Europe lol, there are whole towns in the US where speaking at least some Spanish is kinda necessary.