Breaking Bad 5x9
Added 2024-07-07 20:08:18 +0000 UTCComments
I love the acting in this show much. You can see Hank's heart breaking when he says, "I don't know who you are." Every single actor in this show absolutely nails every line in tone, body language, and facial expressions. Maybe the first 3 seasons of Game of Thrones comes close but I still think Breaking Bad is the best show ever put on TV. Still can't believe how many Walt apologist there are out here still lol. When I first watched this show as it was airing, I was on Walts side I thought he was pretty sympathetic. When the 2020 lockdowns came around during covid I decided I should rewatch the show, I always said to people that I loved it and its the best show I ever watched so why not? It was kind of astounding how fast I turned my opinion on Walt. Especially in the first half of this season. I hate fake tough guys and every time he does that deep voice I want to punch him. He hasn't done anything that even warrants that attitude. He didn't kill Gus, Hector Salamanca killed Gus. He didn't kill Mike, he ambushed Mike like the coward he is, because Mike dared hurt Walters fragile ego/pride. Mike kicked the shit out of him that bar and Walt cried about it to Saul. He is just a coward, a sheep in wolves clothing if you will.
Bany
2024-10-27 01:24:06 +0000 UTCI love the hating on Walt buuuuut....Hank really should have listened to him. But ya'll about to learn.
Jimmy Greer
2024-08-01 05:37:25 +0000 UTCThis is an insane comment, riddled with spoilers (which you should delete). I think BCS is the better show, yes. It's fine to prefer BB, many people do, but you didn't need to post all this. "BB is the last show that wasn't politically correct" Vince Gilligan et al would laugh in your face for saying this lol. You're once again confusing quality for preference. BCS is better on every technical level, the crew got so fucking good at making television by the end, and I personally prefer the story over Walt's, which I still like a lot. I don't even know what you mean by "characters played by different actors", I can't think of a single one and even if they recast 1 person, who cares? It's a great show! It's fine to prefer something but I have no interest in debating it, especially if you think BB is better because 'woke'. I hope you're not gonna be like this the whole time, especially when the girls end up loving BCS, that would be a huge downer.
Kara
2024-07-14 18:40:16 +0000 UTC7+ yrs is not a good thing. BB was one of the last shows that wasn’t politically correct. It released during that sweet spot between good cinematic quality and nostalgia with the music, style etc. If they had 7 yrs in between why didn’t they digitally de-age the characters. Pinkman looks 40. For a prequel almost the whole cast that was in BB looks about 20 yrs older than they did in BB and put on 20+ lbs too. Some of the characters are not even played by the same actors/actresses that played them in BB. The special effects are trash too ie nacho or whatever his name is falling through the ceiling at like 2x speed etc. The scene Saul pushing a lady down a sidewalk for 1/5 of the episode- total snoozefest 😴 Walter White is HEISENBERG. The big bad meth wolf- the guy who rewrote history. Walter’s metamorphosis is far greater and more interesting than any other character’s development. BB is superior if you disagree I truly believe you just want to sound different or you tried some of the product
Justin
2024-07-14 17:01:23 +0000 UTCI mean, you're proving my point really, that one sequence (not an "ad", a perfect scene-setting callback to a line from Breaking Bad) is shot better than any sequence in BB 1x1. Vince Gilligan directed them both and the crew had 7+ years to improve between the two, I'm sure he'd agree. Cinematography isn't action, plot or writing.
Kara
2024-07-10 23:47:51 +0000 UTCSpoilers- Better call Saul starts out with a 3 minute (which feels like 10 minutes) ad for it's opening scene. Compare that to BB's banger opener.
Justin
2024-07-10 23:30:02 +0000 UTCIt Never gets old.
Justin
2024-07-10 22:30:47 +0000 UTCWe love Daddy Walt!
Ray Johnson
2024-07-10 01:42:45 +0000 UTC"Why does Walt need Jesse to believe him?" Because Walt cares about Jesse deeply and sees him as a son and doesn't want him to think he's a bad person. Which is insane, considering what Walt has done to him but it is how he feels about it.
Conner
2024-07-09 21:34:10 +0000 UTC@Andrew I think its fine if they dislike characters who are bad people but yeah I agree villain protagonist may not be there thing. For me characters like Tony and Walt intrigue me and make a good story. I may not like who they are but they are intriguing and incredibly interesting to analysis what makes them tick. Villain protagonist are often written with at least a small part of us meant to still root and/or sympathize with them. With Protagonist like Walt and Tony, its not just hate or dislike which yes we ARE meant to feel but were also meant to think of them deeper. Because they are written to be very human despite their monstrous behavior. They are the villain but still the protagonist so we see all sides of them.
Fresh2000
2024-07-09 11:41:13 +0000 UTCy'all have an A1 day!
S13 Drift
2024-07-09 06:45:27 +0000 UTCAriana is the matriarch in this relationship. So I believe shes actually getting upset, Maple is following her lead to support her friend. Maples reaction would be different in a solo (first time) watch as Ariana's would not.
TinCan Cosmanaut
2024-07-09 04:31:40 +0000 UTCWalt's a sociopath if anything and that is probably why he mimics traits of the people he kills. It's like is guilt manifesting. He is keeping a part of them alive through these mannerisms.
Demented Avenger
2024-07-09 02:10:20 +0000 UTCThat downward inflection on 'tread lightly' is chilling.
ND
2024-07-09 02:08:35 +0000 UTCDeep breaths Toebean.
Stewart MacInnes
2024-07-09 00:21:24 +0000 UTCLying isn’t being a bad guy everyone!!! Just whatever Walt does is being a bad guy, nevermind this whole show is filled with terrible people, at least those people didn’t lie!!! (They absolutely fucking did)
cat named toebean
2024-07-08 22:06:31 +0000 UTCAight next time you’re invested in anything I’ll make sure to come say it’s stupid you’re invested in it, we are enjoying it for what it is, that’s why we’re invested😂
cat named toebean
2024-07-08 21:36:01 +0000 UTCI don't know how you can resist just marathon-ing the whole back half of this season. Its just some of the best tv ever made. Can't wait to see you guys close this one out.
Steve Johnson
2024-07-08 17:49:40 +0000 UTCI think the real issue is not Walt lying. It has to be pointed out that Gus lied a myriad of times to almost everyone around him. His entire persona is a lie. Everyone at the chicken restaurant. Everyone at Madrigal (barring Lydia and a few accomplices). Most importantly, he lied to and manipulated Jesse as well. He orchestrated an entire fake robbery to make Jesse feel important and planted the seed of the idea in Jesse that he might not be on a death list even though he absolutely was. He lied to Walt about forgiving the vehicular homicide of his drug dealers so that he had time to kill Walt. He may have lied about not knowing those dealers would kill the child in the first place. He lied to Gale about the reason Gale needed to learn Walt’s formula. And finally, Gus lied to every single one of his cartel accomplices. It’s unreasonable to believe you could function in this world at a high level while being honest with people around you. Gus lied to everyone who he needed to and it’s really no different than Walt. The reason Walt’s lies feel worse is really just cause he’s the protagonist. Gus can lie because he’s the villain. When his lies hurt people we like, well, it’s okay because he’s the villain. It’s expected. But Walt is the protagonist. When the protagonist of the story starts lying so much that it hurts the supporting characters we care about it feels like a betrayal in a way that Gus lying to Walt and Jesse just doesn’t. We don’t expect the antagonist of the story to have fidelity to the characters around them. We *do* expect that of the protagonist, though. To me, this is the difference between a protagonist who is an anti-hero (which a lot of stories have) vs a protagonist literally becoming the villain. We’re set up to care about things *for* Walt and with Walt, only for Walt to turn around and threaten the things we care about more than anyone. EDIT: I forgot a real doozy. Gus lied to Walt about *having children*. Arranged his entire house like a movie set so that Walt would think of him as a family man. Just threw some toys in the corner for the purpose of manipulation. Gus was next level at lying.
Eric Wall
2024-07-08 17:30:36 +0000 UTCI would have zero issues with them hating on Tony, because Tony is a mafia scumbag and deserves to be called out on his bs. What I WOULD have an issue with is if their hate was so intense they would scream and shout over entire scenes and lines of dialogue, making it harder for THEM to follow the plot and for US to enjoy their reactions. Which is something that, unfortunately, has been happening more and more often with BB reactions lately. Thankfully, though, it's not gonna happen, because they are gonna react to either Ted Lasso or The Good Place next.
Andrew
2024-07-08 16:32:18 +0000 UTCI am not dismissing the significance of Walt's character traits, nor am I denying that he's changed (for the worse) as a result of the crimes he'd commited. I'm simply dismissing Maple's characterization of Walt as a serial killer because it holds no logical ground and lacks nuance. She seems to be fishing inside the echochamber for any proof that she's right while completely ignoring all the evidence of the contrary. Either that or she's trolling us because she knows she's wrong but finds our reactions to her commentary amusing.
Andrew
2024-07-08 16:21:21 +0000 UTCThe serial killer thing doesn’t specifically annoy me because Walt does have a habit of picking up the traits of the people he’s killed. The way he lays the towel down before puking in this episode is how Gus did it previously. After killing Mike, he tells Lydia “learn to take yes for an answer”, which is something Mike once told him. It’s largely symbolic. (I mean, Walt didn’t even know that Gus did that). Mostly a way to show how Walt has, in some way, consumed these people into his own personality. There’s a sense in which he does keep “trophies” without even really being aware of it. But personally, I’d be less inclined to see this as trophy keeping and more like curses. A reminder to the audience that no matter how much Walt can forget and ignore the things he’s done, they still effect him and follow him around without him knowing it. I think it’s fair to say fate exists in Gilligan’s universe, and frequently reminds you that it will have its way.
Eric Wall
2024-07-08 16:20:12 +0000 UTCThere's a really nice fan theory that Walt takes on the traits of the people he kills. e.g after he kills Gale, he keeps Gale's coffee brewing method, after killing Gus we see lots of Gus-like mannerisms here. He cuts the crusts off his sandwiches after killing Krazy-8 (who preferred them that way). Probably loads more (dont post spoilers!)
Kara
2024-07-08 16:15:19 +0000 UTCIt's a tough one, a lot of shitty parents do genuinely want their kids to be happy, but then they manipulate them anyway. It's not just one thing. Walt's love is conditional on Jesse being pliable enough. Tough situation to pick apart.
Kara
2024-07-08 16:13:36 +0000 UTCand these guys want them to react to sopranos, like girl bffr. they're gonna HATE tony soprano lmao.
Kara
2024-07-08 16:12:23 +0000 UTCif you gave me 10,000 tries I wouldn't have even got close to guessing this shoutout lmao.
Kara
2024-07-08 16:11:03 +0000 UTCGreat reaction! Really great start, the beginning of the end. A worse-written show would have spent 3-4 episodes on "Hank finding out and confronting Walt" but here it's just like bam, we're in it. It shows how desperate Walt is that he even tries to convince Hank, the coppiest 'cop' to ever cop, a literally DEA ASAC on the frontline of the 2000s drug war... as if there's any combination of words could make up for the crimes and deep personal lies for a year+. Walt believes the money absolves everything. He can't fathom that Jesse would rather yeet those wads out the window than spend them, that 1 dead kid is 1 dead kid too many. I really enjoyed you noticing specific shot compositions here. The BB crew got better with every season, and they really dial it for this final run. Then Better Call Saul starts at this level and (imo) only gets better w/ the cinematography. I'm literally so excited to close out this journey with y'all and start a whole new one... 6 seasons! ahh!!
Kara
2024-07-08 16:10:30 +0000 UTCI wouldn't call him technically a serial killer, but Walt absolutely takes on something from each of his kills. It's explicitly written in to his character. Some of those things are tangible, and some are behaviors or quirks. It's a nod to how it has changed him, how he's internalized things, and of his relationship with each of those characters. it's a really subtle but fascinating clue into his mindset and each of his kills. Whether you think of it as serial killer behavior or not, dismissing the significance does a disservice ot the writing and to Walt as a character.
Christen
2024-07-08 16:07:02 +0000 UTCIt does remind me of the scene where he’s drinking from Gale’s coffee machine, smiles at it fondly like he’s remembering the good times, then his look goes darker as he remembers, “Oh yeah, I killed that guy.” I think the fact that he didn’t get rid of the gift Gale gave him is more an indicator that his conscience has been pushed further down. He can now look at something like this without it kinda ruining his day, so he has no reason to get rid of it. When it comes to deliberately keeping trophies, that seems like much more of a Todd thing, who is almost certainly *actually* modeled after serial killer behavior. As far as the book being evidence, that’s probably pure oversight. He could’ve simply forgot that Gale signed it. Without that small note, it wouldn’t be evidence of anything. And even with it, Hank is literally the only person who would’ve ever made this connection. Hank got really lucky, because Walt was shown reading the book earlier, meaning he could’ve easily set it down anywhere else in the house. It’s an oversight for sure, but it was not guaranteed to be discovered. It could’ve easily gathered dust on a shelf for 20 years before anyone but Walt opened it again.
Eric Wall
2024-07-08 16:02:44 +0000 UTCBtw guys, we know pretty much exactly when the flash-forward from the cold open occurs, let's do the math. We recently saw Walt celebrate his 51st birthday. This was shortly before the train heist which went so terribly wrong with the murder of Drew Sharp. We don't know exactly how much time went between there and the conversation with Lydia where she proposes the international scheme but we can assume not that much. Then we're told that Walt works for about 3 months making his fortune before he gets out and apparently it's been about a month since then, so about 4 months since his 51st birthday, maybe a bit more but I wouldn't say more than a month more. The beginning of season 5 showed Walt celebrating his 52nd birthday in the flash forward at the diner. So from now, this seems to be in about 7-8 months' time. Walt said he probably only had 6 months to live in this episode, so it's no wonder he's looking pretty terrible in the flash-forwards as he's probably pretty close to death there.
Christophe
2024-07-08 14:15:30 +0000 UTCIt is wild.
Stewart MacInnes
2024-07-08 09:49:09 +0000 UTCReading these comments I have to say its astonishing to me how people are this deeply investet in a reaction, just enjoy it for what it is.
L Grey
2024-07-08 09:33:46 +0000 UTCHearing Maple shout out The Nine Club was definitely not on my bingo card today lmao!
Snoogins
2024-07-08 04:46:48 +0000 UTCan opinion
jo and joe
2024-07-08 03:32:32 +0000 UTCShe definitely likes to annoy her audience. I think she’s annoyed that many people (mostly men) like Walt. I think she’s wrapped up in the whole “toxic male” nonsense, and sees Walt and his fans as a toxic men. That’s the only thing I can think of.
Brandon Williams
2024-07-08 02:44:49 +0000 UTCYeah. I let someone else (you) field this weird serial killer argument this week. I can't take it anymore lol. It shouldn't frustrate me as much as it does, but really does seem she just keeps saying it to antagonize people. It's okay to be wrong and not know what the definition of a serial killer is, but at least admit you're wrong. It's extremely narcissistic to keep doubling down. Walt doesn't kill at random-like a serial killer. He doesn't focus on killing women-like most serial killers. And he doesn't keep trophies- like a serial killer. The book was a gift. It wasn't stole from Gale in an attempt to keep a trophy of a kill like say...I dunno...Todd? He killed a boy and kept the kid's pet tarantula. Has she ever referred to Todd as a serial killer? I don't think so.
Demented Avenger
2024-07-08 02:34:25 +0000 UTCIt's not weird, it's just careless, that's all. He should have been smarter and gotten rid of it, but he didn't.
Andrew
2024-07-08 01:57:51 +0000 UTCI do agree Walt wouldn't fit the criteria for a serial killer. It is really weird he kept the book though. I mean, was he reading it on the shitter while wistfully thinking of the man whose murder he ordered?
Stewart MacInnes
2024-07-08 01:49:43 +0000 UTCWalt didn't "keep 'Leaves of Grass' as a trophy", it was Gale's gift to him. Once again, Maple, you keep doubling and tripling down on this "serial killer" argument, which is such a strange hill to die on considering there is virtually no evidence to support that. You're either terribly misinformed about what it actually is that constitutes a serial killer, or you are doing this just simply to annoy your audience, which is a pretty weird thing to do if that's the case.
Andrew
2024-07-08 01:06:45 +0000 UTCYou guys have no idea. Your anxiety is going to hit peak levels these last episodes.
Demented Avenger
2024-07-07 23:04:42 +0000 UTCI believe Walt genuinely wants Jesse to be happy even if he has to manipulate him into it
T.wiley
2024-07-07 22:09:12 +0000 UTCAnd that's why a terrified Jessie went along with his lie!!
Chris Bruneau
2024-07-07 21:34:40 +0000 UTCIt's so nice seeing the parallels between Fring's chicken restaurant as a cover for his operations and Walt's car wash as his cover up- Walt trying to play it off at the register with Lydia like he doesn't know who she is reminds me of how Gus would get when Walt would visit him at Los Pollos. They even pay homage to the crystal ship and the episode Mandala when Walt tried to convince Gus to work with them with Lydia's line: "Get the ship back on course- we'll make it worth your while". Walt places a neatly folded towel under his knees in front of the toilet just how Gus would. The show also points in this direction when Mike tells Walt: "Just because you shot Jesse James, don't make you Jesse James". Jesse James was a famous train robber. Two episodes later we find out Walt and Jesse's train heist plan is successful. Mike was wrong about Walt, some people like to give Mike too much credit. Walt had to take out Gus for his and his family's safety. What- was Walt supposed to just roll over? There were no pitchforks out when Walt had to kill Krazy-8...
Justin
2024-07-07 21:30:04 +0000 UTC🎯
Justin
2024-07-07 21:24:22 +0000 UTCNice! when all is done i hope you watch 2 episodes a week of Better call saul.
sablo
2024-07-07 21:21:53 +0000 UTCWalt “needs” Jesse to believe him because if there’s conflict between Walt and Jesse over Mike or anything else, Jesse could become a liability and Walt would have to kill him, which he doesn’t want to do.
Daniel Bjork
2024-07-07 21:20:38 +0000 UTCI don't believe Jesse's chair is made of denim
Justin
2024-07-07 20:35:34 +0000 UTCOMG!! the final 8!!! A&M, I'm so excited for you as first-timers. Some of the best TV ever made is coming your way!!! This episode is one of my personal top-5. I love the Hank character, and Dean Norris deserved an emmy for his outstanding performance for this one. Both his furious anger and complete sense of devastation over Walt's betrayal is just something to behold!!
Chris Bruneau
2024-07-07 20:33:55 +0000 UTCCan’t wait to see your reaction !
Mario Serra
2024-07-07 20:15:13 +0000 UTC
