Breaking Bad 5x6
Added 2024-06-21 08:29:33 +0000 UTCComments
To be fair, yall did say u wanted Walt to go full bad lol.
Andrew Clifton
2024-08-05 08:02:11 +0000 UTCre: what the director(s)/writers thought, this is a great interview to watch when you finish the series (i don't think it spoils anything about BCS tho). this link skips to where they discuss it, but the whole thing is worth watching: https://youtu.be/YzvVdJmwIeo?si=MCfuuZq-oFAZ_eIF&t=960
kelly
2024-07-17 08:54:04 +0000 UTCI LIVE for Ariana's hate and disgust for Walt. Feel the same way. Side note: Walt didn't even think to park a block away from their "headquarters". But, yeah, definitely suited to build an empire lmao. In his narcissism he doesn't realise that he came to this point in the story because a lot of people protected him. Saul, Gus and even Skyler. Didn't think about getting a lawyer, didn't think about how it would be necessary to launder his money. But yeah, Walt is a genius, right.
Mary
2024-07-03 12:18:49 +0000 UTCThey don't work for you. You pay for access to content they make, if you don't like it, don't pay for it.
Anto
2024-06-28 20:51:22 +0000 UTCI also fucking hate Walt to my guts and I love the show. If you don't hate Walt, that's a you problem.
Anto
2024-06-28 20:49:17 +0000 UTCJust enjoy this tragedy!
Justin Calhoun
2024-06-28 18:33:25 +0000 UTCYeah I have the same interpretation of ths. It's not what he's humming it's the fact that he is this calm and chirpy despite a kid being dead because of them literally day ago.
Elesh
2024-06-25 15:41:59 +0000 UTCI think they will too, and there's Kim and [redacted for spoilers]. Peter Gould and the writers definitely learned a lot about how to better portray anti heroic characters from the jump
Kara
2024-06-25 08:26:02 +0000 UTCFr I can’t wait for better call Saul bc saul is super likable even if he’s being a piece of shit at times😭 I think they will enjoy him way more
Zane
2024-06-25 08:15:05 +0000 UTCFor after you finish, if you want to know what the creators think of Walt: https://www.ign.com/articles/breaking-bad-creator-likes-walter-white-less-than-ever-but-he-feels-bad-for-skyler
Stewart MacInnes
2024-06-25 04:49:17 +0000 UTCSame. Breaking Bad is my all time favourite show and Brian Cranston as Walt is my all time favourite performance by an actor, but by this point in the show Walt is skin-crawlingly awful and is supposed to be. Vince Gilligan thinks he's a massive prick. These reactions are great.
Stewart MacInnes
2024-06-25 04:33:05 +0000 UTCThis was a tough watch along.
TinCan Cosmanaut
2024-06-23 23:31:20 +0000 UTCExcept Walt's flaws are not a product of inexperience. The main prerequisite for learning is humility. Walt has none. He already thinks he has nothing to learn. That he is better and smarter than anyone. His ego makes him incapable of learning or growing, because he does not think he needs to do either.
Silver Hawkins
2024-06-23 20:58:04 +0000 UTC🎯
Justin
2024-06-23 16:18:14 +0000 UTCi get what u guys are saying between the difference with Gus & Walt but u guys gotta remember. Gus was in the game for 15-20+ years. Walts is in it for 1+ so far from what we’ve eve seen. Of course he wont be at Gus level. How do we kno Gus wasnt bad during his first couple years? He even said it himself he made alot of mistakes in the beginning. How do we kno walt couldn’t do the same 5 years from now? So that comparison dosnt make sense at this point. We saw Gus as a finished product not at the very beginning. Also i dont think he necessarily wants to be Gus. He dosnt wanna be like gus. Theyre both different type of people. He wants to build an empire like gus yes but do it his way long as he makes money i dont think he cares how its made. Gus ran things different at a higher level with lots more people involved. walt does not want to all that extra stuff. He wants his own empire but just differently at a smaller level where he gets more of the profit and not as big becuz of his family involvement. Where as Gus did not have to worry about family or friends. It definitely would of been cool to see how Gus got started as well tho
Sosa brady
2024-06-23 14:10:23 +0000 UTCI think they dislike Walt guys
Justin
2024-06-23 08:43:01 +0000 UTCi'm a fan and i dont want them to 'extend empathy to walt', i want them to express their real opinions in a reaction format up through the final episode lol
Kara
2024-06-23 03:28:56 +0000 UTC100% agree shane, I think people are arguing past each other here too. like Walt sucks and also, is an entertaining character to watch execute his camp little evil chemistry schemes. more than one thing can be true. contradictory things can be true. media literacy has truly been damaged lol.
Kara
2024-06-23 03:23:27 +0000 UTCWalt said it himself several seasons ago: there was a perfect time for him to die, right after making enough money to put his kids thru college and cover Skyler's bills, but right before he went into remission and the idea of building an empire colonized his grey matter. He 'lived too long'.
Kara
2024-06-23 03:20:49 +0000 UTCI've watched the show 5+ times and never new this wow, thanks! I don't think Jesse clocked that though, it would be too obvious. I think he's just reacting to Walt casually whistling, carefree even though he was just accomplice to child murder.
Kara
2024-06-23 03:19:25 +0000 UTCGreat reactions. I've watched 3 or 4 channels react to Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul (and El Camino, the movie) and as a certified Walt hater I've been loving this series lol. His schemes are entertaining to watch but he's a fundamentally horrible person who has at this point caused wonton destruction and death in pursuit of, he literally textually says it this episode: building an empire that can make him feel good about selling his shares of a billion dollar company. Wanting to build an empire, to be a colonizer, to be a murderous capitalist drug kingpin, to win for winning's sake, is the biggest of red flags. Every episode brings us closer to Better Call Saul S1E01. I am so soooo excited for the girls to get to BCS because imo it takes everything that BB does but does it even better, with loads of lessons learned in writing + cinematography + everything, and Saul is a much more likable character. We also need to slot El Camino in there at some point 😅 many good times ahead, and we haven't even done Ozymandius yet
Kara
2024-06-23 03:17:59 +0000 UTCThat fictional characters and stories can move us to feel frustrated, joyous, angry, proud, and everything outside + in-between is a blessing and a core part of human history, from early oral tradition through to modern TV seasons. It's a feature of good storytelling, not a bug.
Kara
2024-06-23 03:14:32 +0000 UTCThis is soooo so clear to me based off the hints and subtext, i'm glad Vince thinks the same. I've seen it happen IRL multiple times. man detonates a good relationship cuz feels inferior to girlfriend.
Kara
2024-06-23 03:12:37 +0000 UTCI just finished listening to your post-episode discussion. Your dislike (or hate, whichever you think is the more appropriate term) for Walt is justified and you have every right to feel that way about him. However, If I had to summarize what a lot of people in the comments are complaining about is the fact that ever since the Jane situation in Season 2 everything Walt says and does you put under the tiniest microscope, and that kind of tunnel vision not only makes it look like you're not enjoying the show (which, obviously, you do hence such emotional reactions), but sometimes makes your over-analysis just plain wrong and motivated by hate rather than willingness to understand his character and what he's going through and why he does what he does. It's ok if you just want to dismiss everything he does as "he's trash", but you know full well it's more complicated than that. I've seen many of your reactions and I think it's pretty clear you both are good humans capable of deep empathy, and I guess what a lot of your fans here would want from you is to try to extend that empathy towards Walt's character as well. That's just my two cents.
Andrew
2024-06-23 00:44:32 +0000 UTCThe song Walt is humming is called "Lilly of the Valley" hence Jesse's reaction.
Andrew
2024-06-23 00:29:56 +0000 UTCTodd is the one who gives off serial killer vibes. Walt almost looks well adjusted next to him.
Munir
2024-06-22 06:31:02 +0000 UTCLove it. Shout those feelings!
Damien Lupo
2024-06-22 05:43:08 +0000 UTCSince it doesn't get revealed any further, Vince on the Grey Matter backstory: “I think it was kind of situation where he didn’t realize the girl he was about to marry was so very wealthy and came from such a prominent family, and it kind of blew his mind and made him feel inferior and he overreacted. He just kind of checked out. I think there is that whole other side to the story, and it can be gleaned. This isn’t really the CliffsNotes version so much. These facts can be gleaned if you watch some of these scenes really closely enough, and you watch them without too much of an overriding bias toward Walt and against Gretchen and Elliott." Gretchen vaguely talks about this back in S2 also
autumn
2024-06-22 05:15:47 +0000 UTClmao I don't think they are the ones who are offended here
autumn
2024-06-22 05:07:45 +0000 UTCDude if we’re paying for something, we get a say. We can be annoyed they go over the top and spend 45 mins doing shrill screams of the same 5 words. No ones saying they need to stop reacting genuinely, they could just, oh I don’t know, stop screaming? Articulate? Maybe let things play out before they jump to conclusions that are wrong? You can watch things the wrong way lmfao, you can miss things told to you that would make you enjoy it more, I can only imagine how much dialogue they’ve missed because they can’t stop yelling I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM. We fucking get it, you don’t have to spend an hour screaming it every goddamn episode. Go white knight somewhere else😂
cat named toebean
2024-06-22 02:48:37 +0000 UTCThis is a dark comedy, it’s also fictional, sorry but sometimes it’s like you guys get personally offended by a character on a screen, take a deep breath and remember that!
cat named toebean
2024-06-22 02:34:23 +0000 UTCI knew it was personal for Ariana 😂
Cactus Juice
2024-06-22 00:57:23 +0000 UTCFor the most part. I did discover at least one scene that was cropped differently from the blu-ray so as to conceal Bryan Cranston’s bare ass
Eric Wall
2024-06-21 22:54:32 +0000 UTCIt is kinda funny how even when Declan is the one changing the terms of the deal at the last minute, it’s actually Walt’s fault just for wanting to keep his share of the methlamine. Walt’s point that they’re selling to his competitors is actually relevant despite Mike’s attempt to dismiss the significance of that. Why does Walt intuit the flaw in the deal but Mike doesn’t? His complaint that Mike isn’t revealing that the DEA is tailing him until the last minute is also legitimate. Literally anyone other than Jesse would take issue with this. You think Gus would’ve been cool with Mike concealing the fact that the cops are tailing him? Gus would’ve contemplated killing Mike for the exact same reason. Walt’s evilness isn’t really at issue or very debatable. He’s a bad guy. But they also seem to think he’s a complete moron who’s incapable of coming up with plans and executing them despite the fact that he’s been doing that all season so far. Like, every single plan Walt and Jesse have come up with Mike has thought sounded idiotic, but they all keep working. Despite this, Mike is still seen as this infallible expert. Mike has made more mistakes than Walt over these last 6 episodes, hands down. Included in those mistakes is thinking that a single zip tie is going to keep Walt contained.
Eric Wall
2024-06-21 22:50:21 +0000 UTCjust for laughs, the "Uncle Miltie sized hard-on" joke is a reference to old-time Hollywood star Milton Berle, who supposedly had a giant schlong :)
Chris Bruneau
2024-06-21 20:21:09 +0000 UTCYeah I lol'ed at that. Netflix is less censored than the paid version? What a world lol
Dan
2024-06-21 20:07:06 +0000 UTCI see Walt as a cautionary tale of how you can be your worst enemy. He feels like he has missed out on life and that others look down on him for not meeting the standards of society, in this case particularly as a man. Which there is some truth to, Walt was looked down on by everyone around him shown in episode 1 and he has missed out on his full potential. Ofc going back to worse enemy. He can't move past Gray Matter, he can't move pass the memory of his father in such a weakened state. He doesn't realize what he has which is family and that he teaches a new generation because he is self-loathing. He is a genius, if he would have built himself back up years ago. He probably could have had something on the level of gray matter. Whether or not, he is a business man like Gus. When you think about it, he has done a lot in a year which shows the potential for something less harmful to others that he could have done if not for his timid, given up on life mindset before he got his cancer diagnosis.
Fresh2000
2024-06-21 20:00:28 +0000 UTCEh I think it's just a misunderstanding of the character, and when you hate someone, of course it's very easy to just write them off and call them every evil thing in the book. But I think they can get to understanding him. That doesn't mean liking Walt or anything, just accurately knowing why the thinks and feels the things he does. I mean the couch and dinner talk this episode wasn't at all some manipulation. It was just that. It's what Walt really wants from this business, and that it means so much to him so he can't just sign off on the deal Mike wants to make.
Lorenzo Baxter
2024-06-21 19:55:48 +0000 UTC@John Cedar I think walt is a cautionary tale of how you can be your worst enemy, which is a big part of the show. That being said while I agree that he isn't exactly forced and/or turned into a bad guy by society like those other characters are. I do still sympathetic with him and me and the ones who do i feel often come from a pov of somewhat relating to him. A lot of people feel like they have missed out on life and that others look down on them for not meeting the standards of society, in this case particularly as a man. Walt was looked down on by everyone around him shown in episode 1. He missed out on his potential and with the memory of his father in a weaken state feels that he has to be the MAN. That along with the cancer making him realize how he has missed out on life in his perspective. Ofc going back to worse enemy, he doesn't realize what he has which is family and teaches a new generation because he is self-loathing. Non of this is a excuse for his actions but I think its simplistic to say walt woke up one day and became a villain. It's taken time for walt to get as bad as he is currently, so I don't truly agree with the always a psycho and/or serial killer statement.
Fresh2000
2024-06-21 19:49:27 +0000 UTCI have no problem at all with their reactions. I actually really enjoy them, it's just that they question so much why Walt is a loved character (aside from the Walt apologists) and there's a reason for that. But they can think whatever they want. I'm just pointing out things because I love this show and this universe and it's just a peak piece of media. Theres so much more to a character that makes them a mess of a person and that's precisely why someone like Walt is so beloved. There's like no animosity at all in my comments, at least none that I meant to put in there 😅
Lorenzo Baxter
2024-06-21 19:31:16 +0000 UTCI mean, you literally have to compare him to neo nazis or cartel enforcers to have someone that's on a lower rung in this show, he's pretty fucking bad. It's definitely not like the Tommy Shelby dynamic where he is constantly surrounded by an oppressive government that wants him dead and enemies on all sides that are more evil or corrupt than him in almost every scenario. It's not like Barry Berkman or Tony Soprano where we're watching someone fucked up in the head from childhood unable to deal with their shit. Walter is different because this is all fucking pointless, he was living a normal suburban life and despite his bad luck, he could've been fine, for at least a few years. No one was out to get him at the start, and he didn't have the life of crime inflicted on him to mold his psyche. He simply chooses to poison and throw away things, with almost no ability to self reflect. That's why he can be so infuriating to watch for anyone that's not just "along for the ride" with his badness.
John Cedar
2024-06-21 19:18:28 +0000 UTCIt's only going to get worse lol
Ullrich Pfeiffer
2024-06-21 18:46:39 +0000 UTCJust IMO they're wrong about Walt so often, he's not THE bad guy, he's A bad guy, any action he makes is judged under much high scrutiny than any other character
Jorge Inho
2024-06-21 17:43:38 +0000 UTCI mean as a character. And as a character Walter White is one of the best ever portrayed. I love hating Walt.
Shane Leslie
2024-06-21 17:13:53 +0000 UTCDepends on what you mean by defending. I don't think most people disagree that he is a bad person, just on how much of so of one is he. How sympathetic or not they find him and how much they do or do not root for him. How badass or not they find him. Along with some people who confuse bad person and/or despicable with not being a great character.
Fresh2000
2024-06-21 16:52:19 +0000 UTCMate, I'm here for the Walter hate. He's a bad person. Anyone who defends Walt has no media literacy. If I killed 10 people to save my dad's life, he'd kick my arse.
Shane Leslie
2024-06-21 16:44:22 +0000 UTCMaybe you should stop watching their reactions to this show if you have so much of a problem with their reactions. I'm not saying that to be rude, I'm just saying that their reactions are as valid and genuine as yours, so maybe don't imply that they should stop because they don't like a character. No one is forcing you to watch their reactions. If their opinions don't match yours and that upsets you, you can just choose to not watch or disagree amicably. See how easy that is? (Edit: this was directed at Demented Avenger's comment specifically, but it kind of applies to everyone, all the time.)
Damien Lupo
2024-06-21 16:35:43 +0000 UTCAgreed. But he fictional and can’t hurt us lol.
Demented Avenger
2024-06-21 15:59:57 +0000 UTCto be fair Walt is a piece of shit
ZitherManifesto
2024-06-21 14:09:27 +0000 UTCIf you watched on Netflix none of it is censored
ZitherManifesto
2024-06-21 14:08:48 +0000 UTCAs much as Walt sucks, they go way overboard. It was hard getting through this episode. They need to tone it down a bit. Nearly every time Walt spoke in the episode, they start trashing him. Maybe they should stop watching the show if he gets to them that much.
Demented Avenger
2024-06-21 13:54:28 +0000 UTCGirl will need a valium before she watches the next episode.
Demented Avenger
2024-06-21 13:26:36 +0000 UTCserial killer? I don't think he quite fits the definition. Walt Sneezes* Ariana: I hate him!
Demented Avenger
2024-06-21 13:04:48 +0000 UTCAre they still making that serial killer comment? I had to stop watching their reactions as much back in Season 4 because it wasn't fun to watch them spend half the episode just trashing the main character, and often from a place of having the wrong idea(s) about said character. I joined again this month to watch Season 3 of ST now that they finished it, and they honestly do the same thing with that show sometimes.
Jeff I.
2024-06-21 12:50:05 +0000 UTCI do love so much their commentary on this show. So damn good. You are 100% right about Walt. It is about him and him alone.
Mario Serra
2024-06-21 12:24:08 +0000 UTCNarcissists don't only come from bloodlines. Hell, people can engage in Narcissistic behaviors without actually qualifying for Narcissistic personality disorder. This was probably spurred on with the cancer diagnosis. But the dinner talk wasn't him making it about him. That was his motivation. He stopped doing it for his family back in season 2. He quickly realized that he likes being Heisenberg. But his resentment for Gretchen and Eliot and the company has festered. Being Heisenberg gives him the opportunity to be the person he's always wanted to be. He wants an Empire. This behavior has been on build up for a long while and the cancer was the matchstick. Walt wasn't playing this evil long game where he's the devil incarnate. Thats a full stretch 😅 He can be some evil piece of shit while also having twisted desires that, like all people, comes from a very vulnerable place. Todd shows a lot of qualities of a psychopath. Him keeping the tarantula is like keeping a trophy. He shows no remorse for killing, and thinks fully logically. He doesn't actually see anything wrong with killing the kid, because it was "neccesary". I'm fairly certain Walt knows Mike isn't some minion. And Jesse isn't either. He sees Jesse as a son and Mike is not some slouch. "Serial killer" is not a diagnosis. If anything, Todd is more serial killer vibes with the psychopathic tendencies. Don't just tack on every bad thing on Walt endlessly, there's clear cut reasons why he wants the things he wants. (Not justified, but it's more interesting to understand the Mind of someone, rather than write them off as some 1 dimensional villain)
Lorenzo Baxter
2024-06-21 11:17:04 +0000 UTCArianna, don't sugar coat it--tell us how you REALLY feel about Walt!!!!!! LOLOL
Chris Bruneau
2024-06-21 10:25:45 +0000 UTCI'm so glad you're back on this, it felt like so long! 😩 lol
Dan
2024-06-21 10:06:43 +0000 UTCTick…tick…tick…Boom!
Tim Martin
2024-06-21 09:27:18 +0000 UTC
