The Pacific Episode 9
Added 2023-04-09 16:08:51 +0000 UTCAfter a bit of an emotional break, the gals are back at it :/
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100%. Also, as improbable as it seems, the show toned down the atrocities the Japanese did to the Okinawans. They brainwashed them into believing that the Americans were going to rape and murder their children in front of them. 94,000 Okinawans died in the battle, many of them in mass suicides. Women were talking their babies and jumping off cliffs while American interpreters begged them not to.
Alex
2023-04-26 05:15:27 +0000 UTCI find it interesting that Arianna says she would rather have read Sledge's book instead of watching the miniseries. Personally, I found the book to be more haunting than the miniseries. Perhaps I am too desensitized to the miniseires's visual medium, but Sledge describing the disgusting affronts to the other senses stuck with me. Him telling about the smell of Okinawa is something that still randomly pops into my head and makes me gag. Also in regards to Maple complaining about Sledge sliding into the maggoty dead soldier, that is probably due to the source material where there is even a chapter called "Of Mud and Maggots". Sledge writes often about the terrible conditions and how disgusting everything was. As an example, I just randomly opened Sledge’s book and pointed to a line. The first thing I read was: “The mud was knee deep in some places, probably deeper in others if one dared ventured there. For several feet around every corpse, maggots crawled around in the muck and then were washed away by the runoff of the rain.”
Ceruleo
2023-04-15 23:10:26 +0000 UTCWell on a positive note, the violence is all over!
Abner Aranivar
2023-04-13 10:10:43 +0000 UTCThere’s no combat in the next episode as it takes place in the states however it’s important to note that Leckie returns home before the Men of K35,(Eugene, snafu, Bergin), as Sledge remains active duty in Japan and later China as part of the peacekeeping Occupation force. Eugene Details this More in his Book China Marine. I also find that I get more emotional watching episode 10, probably because I’m desensitized to violence but also because it’s the happy tears that get me.
Mike Fossile
2023-04-11 22:05:00 +0000 UTCIt’s a direct counterpart in a sense that the war in the pacific was so different, so incomprehensible, that you would think they weren’t the same show because, they aren’t. The Pacific is the Counterpart to BoB because the pacific war was different
Mike Fossile
2023-04-11 21:49:27 +0000 UTCYou guys have to watch "He Has Seen War" it's the end documentary of the men in both theaters coming home and picking up the pieces of their lives and how they managed to live out their lives. You get the remaining survivors of both this series and BoB along with a historian narrator and the widows and their children. It's a great closer. I can only find it on YT as it was part of a special limited edition dvd.
Stephen Lewis
2023-04-10 23:24:12 +0000 UTCI went to Okinawa this past summer and my god I want absolutely nothing to do with fighting there. Having been to Okinawa I watch this episode differently from before going.
Alexander Kareh
2023-04-10 23:20:21 +0000 UTCThis is the last episode with combat in it btw. The next is how and what they do after the war is over, how they have to get back to normal life after living through the absolute and utter hell that you saw in the show (which is why it was important to watch, to understand what our fathers and grandfathers went through and why they are how they are now). One more episode and it's done, no more
E
2023-04-10 23:07:42 +0000 UTCIf you get the audiobook, it’s read by the actor who plays Sledge. Same for Leckie’s book.
Charlie Horgan
2023-04-10 21:48:22 +0000 UTCI think you guys were trying to say the violence is gratuitous-- From Websters: “War porn,” n. Videos, images, and narratives featuring graphic violence, often brought back from combat zones, viewed voyeuristically or gratuitously.
Chris Bruneau
2023-04-10 19:45:08 +0000 UTCA +M; I totally agree with your sentiments--this show is emotionally exhausting! I just watched it w/ you, and now I need to go for a walk outside. On another note, it really shows why we had to drop the nukes on Japan. Truman was told by the Generals that 500,000 Americans would have died taking the home islands. You saw what Okinawa was like--the home islands would have been 1,000x worse.
Chris Bruneau
2023-04-10 19:30:41 +0000 UTCGreat reaction! The weird thing is that I agree with the critical points raised in the discussion, but I think those points are the reason the series is good. This show makes you feel gross, hopeless, disoriented, and drained. Which is honestly how I think war should always be portrayed.
Matthew s
2023-04-10 00:27:56 +0000 UTCI'm not sure if they realize that the old woman was in the hut that Sledgehammer called in the artillery strike on which adds an entirely different layer of tragedy to it.
P. C.
2023-04-09 21:15:53 +0000 UTCPeople who say that this series is a "must watch", by virtue of having seen Band of Brothers is insane to me. The two series are *so* tonally different, and are not alike at all, except that they occur during WW2. The Pacific was always marketed as the counterpart to BoB and I don't understand why, it misleads people completely. Thank you for your reactions, lots of love to the Diegesis crew! Have a great holiday.
Benjamin Nemeth
2023-04-09 18:20:10 +0000 UTCPeck is the one who switched the ponchos, sure Snafu gave him a fucked up one, pretty sure he didn't think Peck would be a fucking idiot and take a new one off a box of mortar ammo!
Elias Sparks
2023-04-09 17:23:22 +0000 UTCArguably one of the darkest episodes of television ever made. But huge congrats on making it through, there is another episode but the killing is over.
Ph4ZeD
2023-04-09 17:11:10 +0000 UTCA much needed emotional break before this episode, probably the toughest to watch of the 10. Right back at it, into the mud and tears 🙃 Thank you for your reactions!! Really been tearing up every episode along with you guys
E
2023-04-09 16:31:35 +0000 UTC
