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This season greatly changes from the campaign but keeps the major plot points. The group did go to hell but it was to defeat a demon or devil who was after Vax. He was a former minor villain that half the group faced when they separated due to scheduling conflict irl. The same split that introduced us to Kash and Zahras VAs as guest stars. The Plate of the Dawnmartyr was actually in the City of Brass, in the Fire Plane. The owner was a gambling Fire Giant and Scanlan was the one who bet the group for the Plate, he lost all 4 games. She offered them the Plate and their freedom if they killed a Pit Fiend who killed her husband.

dannydarko27

This is probably my favorite episode of the season! Not that its all downhill from here, just my opinion.

Cyan_SkyAnfall

The calamity is a really cool short mini-series to watch! it's only a few episodes and is so so sooo good! would def love to see y'all react to the live play stuff in a shortened version.

Egghead

You mention watching the β€œTable to Screen” moments, but being worried you won’t have time. There’s many YouTube creators who have made 30ish minute best scenes from each season. So if you were interested, you could essentially react to those in the same timeframe as an episode basically adding 3 additional episodes before you move from Vox to the next series. I know all of us fans would love to see that especially with your DnD background.

Uscmiller22

A good source of all things extraplanar with regards to Dungeons and Dragons is Planescape and if you ever decide to DM a multiplanar campaign, that's the really good resource. Much of D&D's Lore goes back to the vivid descriptions in that campaign. For example: the Blood War. The Blood War is an eternal war between the devils (which are lawful evil and reside in the Nine Hells) and the demons (which are chaotic evil and reside in the 666 planes of The Abyss). Basically, all of the Infernal Planes are involved and it's been going on (at least according to Planescape) since the beginning of time. The Abyss is arguably the worst place in all of the Multiverse. Being chaotic evil, demons reacts to visitors by basically either killing them or conscripting them to the Blood War. The lawful evil nature of the Hells is well represented by Zerxus, who follows a strict code and makes no effort to cheat, but still find ways to manipulate and exploit gaps in the rules. The Hells of Despath is a Critical Role creation, but it's heavily based on the 2nd level of Hell, which is the City of Dis. In Planescape, the archduke of the second level is a devil called Dispater, and he is very similar to Zerxus in many ways, particularly in his calm and calculating approach to opposition. BTW, the 5-headed dragon goddess Tiamat sits in the first level of Hell guarding the entrance to the 2nd level. Rounding out the Planescape lore and it's possible ties to Exandria, the reference to the Tormentor is, by its description in the show, a dead ringer for the ruler of the ninth plane of Hell and thus, the ruler of all nine levels, Asmodeus. However, Zerxus mentions the ascension of a certain someone and that "we are his blood". Where have we heard that before? He's not talking about Asmodeus anymore...

Robert Bonfante

Agreed, completely! I don't seen how adding Zerxus is a bad change. It increases the lore in a limited run time, and frankly, that's the point of adaptations! They are adapting to a new medium. Only the most rabid purist would be upset at that.

Robert Bonfante

TBF, Pike is pretty awesome.

Robert Bonfante

To answer your question: In D&D world, the God/Entity that Xerxes made the deal with was none other than Asmodeus himself!

Brandon DeLong

it would be cool for a reaction to the Calamity/Downfall series :D

Dylan The Bear

Palatable? Or did you mean palpable? Usually people use palpable in this context, but I am Hungarian not English lol.

StorytellerDave

Nah, I actually loved the way Xerxes worked around Pike's direct question where his black skull card was. Yeah, it was petty, but also clever and truthful.

HBelmont 24

The thing I love most about this episode is how straightforward it was. Once Pike's game with Xerxes started, it NEVER cut away. We weren't pulled away to see what Vex and Percy were up to. They let the scene play out, and it made the tension PALATABLE.

HBelmont 24

Probs doesn't lend itself well to youtube content, but if they ever want to make patreon bonus content, I am sure there's a lot of critters who'd sign up just to check it out

StorytellerDave

So to answers your question because the show doesn't really tell you this, what's stoping Gods from walking among mortals again are Gods themself,in the Calamity around 80% of the world population was killed and even one continent was destroyed ,the Gods decided that they would distanse themself from the mortals so that would never happen again and they created the Divine Gate that prevents them from entering the material plane

Toamsz Kozak

I would *love* to see y'all react to EXU: Calamity, the miniseries that Zerxus is from. It's a departure from your usual content for sure, but the series is only 4 episodes and easily consumed in 30-60 minute chunks. It's some of the best ttrpg storytelling out there, everyone at the table is such a passionate and skilled storyteller. If you ever want to put a live play reaction on the channel, I know you'd love it.

Temeraire

Between Frieren and now Pike, I'm starting to think Montana likes white-haired short queens. πŸ€πŸ˜„

HBelmont 24

Honestly it would be impossible for them to make an adaptation without changes given the OG campaign was 115 episodes (+3 if you count the bonus episodes) with each being anywhere from 3 to 5 hours. Turning that into just 12 x 24 minutes per season is a freaking insane task. The fact that the show turned out this good is honestly a testament to the skill and hard work that everyone put into it. I am really happy that the Mighty Nein will have a longer overall runtime, bc that campaign is even more dense. PS - The only time I was miffed a bit was lack of Bard's Lament in season 3, but seems like we're getting it for season 4 and honestly I pretty much knew that they would eventually get to it, bc it's too juicy not to adapt, so I wasn't that worried.

StorytellerDave

Personally - I freaking loved the change. Zerxus is an awesome character, I think the reception was overall very positive in this instance, I mean everyone probably fanboyed just from hearing his name. Retcons are often maligned and there's a lot of purists out there who want adaptations to be 1 for 1, but that's just impossible sometimes, so I don't mind changes as long as the overall story and the vibes of the story are more or less the same. I think people are more understanding with Vox Machina making changes because it was originally 115 (+3) episodes long and each were at least 3 to 4 hours, so changes are inevitable. It is a herculean task to adapt such a massive amount of just stuff, into roughly 4-5 hours of animation per season. Also, Ashley Johnson not being available all the time in the OG campaing means people are very welcoming of any additional stuff written for her specifically. That said I am REALLY happy that the runtime of Mighty Nein episodes were drastically increased. Basically double the length.

StorytellerDave

I really hope that you will Watch Exandria Unlimited: Calamity to see the story of him and the Brass Ring. It is such a amazing told story. Though its not DM'd by Matthew Mercer, but Brennan Lee Mulligan.

Roy Meulblok

You mentioned before that Kaiju No. 8 would be returning to YouTube in October. Does that mean this Wednesday, or is that too soon?

HBelmont 24

6:54 - Kenny the only problem is, you can't just get A bunny. You need multiple especially when they're little. My mother kept bunnies when we were kids. Mind you she bred them for food, not as pets, she had like 100+ at one point, but sometimes she'd sell a few around Easter as pets, and she always made sure people would get at least 2, otherwise it does not end well.

StorytellerDave

Next one is pretty high up there for me.

StorytellerDave

The scene between Zerxus and Asmodeus in the Calamity campaign is just perfection itself. An absolute roller coaster of emotions with heartbreak at the end. It's honestly worth watching the mini-series just for that scene, but honestly the series is full of incredible moments like that. Calamity is one of the best things CR ever did.

StorytellerDave

Asmodeus was the god xerxes talked about.

D Gaijin

The Dwemer angle haha, fascinating!

Letts React

Ahhh gotcha, thanks! Always wanna learn more about the lore of DND/vox!!

Letts React

Yeah, Grog had some of the FUNNIEST lines this episode. The whole "LOTS of people have told me to go here" moment is genuinely clever. πŸ˜‚

HBelmont 24

What helps is that there were ZERO cutaways. We didn't briefly leave the scene to check in on Percy and Vex. They let Xerxes and Pike's scene play out.

HBelmont 24

As a fan from early c1 days the changes here dont bother me. Overall the show is great at adapting the changes for the medium. The campaign version had this he a qjest to the city of brass inside the fire plane and deal with a fire giant there who wishes the party to kill a devil who is embassador between hell and the fire plane. That is too complicated for a half hour tv show not even addressing legal questions of how much of the city of brass is owned by dnd copyright. And it will make the stuff about the fireplane with throdak being banished there and keyleth closing the rift feel a little less impactful without the long history of the elemental planes dnd provides that most viewers dont have. The cast is good at knowing how to adapt for reasons like this. My 1 annoyance at a retcon for the show is actually trinket's origin. Vax got no idea about that. He wasnt there and vex never told him. The audience found out during the wrap up. Its the 1 secret vex has all yo herself. That said it was a beautiful scene and done well.

Suplee215

I love how they were able to add so much tension to a simple card game

Jace

So basically its a treaty between the gods preventing it. As it takes all the good gods agreeing to get rid of yhe gate.

Suplee215

This isnt much of a spoiler. Its common exandrian knowledge that didnt get explain yet. The calamity was a war between the gods. It nearly destroyed exandria. The prime dieties fought against the betrayer gods over previous conflicts. 80 percent of all mortals were killed and the land was utterly changed. When the prime. dieties won, they wanted to make sure this will never happen to their creations, their children, again. So the god of the smiths amd dwarves created the divine gate that prevents Gods and other similiarly powerful beings from crossing into the prime material plane.

Suplee215

On religion in D&D, I think one of the most interesting in-world philosophies in D&D comes from Planescape, where one faction "the Athar" who are the D&D equivalent of atheists. They don't deny that gods exist, or that gods aren't incredibly powerful, but they just say that these powerful beings are nothing but but someone wielding power over mortals, and they do not deserve worship.

cryptc

Baal is also a campaign specific god (Forgotten Realms, where BG3 happens), a more generic hellish deity in generic D&D would be Asmodeus.

cryptc

In reference to the scene where they are talking about "The Lord of Torment", they are talking about Asmodeus, Lord of the Nine Hells.

Geese

I was fully on Pike's side in this situation. Absolutely NOTHING would be worth going into hell, not even a vestige. 🫀

HBelmont 24

This is my personal fave episode!

TiredTeo


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