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MHA 6x14

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Pretty sure they just jumped to conclusions, cause I too have NEVER heard any talk or speculation about this before

H-Bomb 24

On the topic of that Hero quitting, I feel this was Stain's point. If your being paid to be a hero, are you really a hero? Like, are you really a hero if financial gain is your biggest reason for doing it. Hero at this point wasn't all about "being a hero" it was a job, and a lot of people thought of it that way. This isn't to say every hero of this era was in it for the money. Just that it attracted many people who couldn't take the heat when things got despair inducing because of the standards at the time.

Sean PaulT60

This was indeed a "pyrrhic" victory. Sure, they captured a LOT of villains, effectively taking out most of the forces Shigeraki amassed thanks to his alliance with the Liberation Front. Even removing Twice who was a major player after overcoming his trauma. However, not only did Shigeraki escape with most of his most powerful allies but now All for One is at the driver seat with a number of powerful Nomu at his disposal. Worse yet, since the heroes failed to stop Megamakia civilian casualties were staggering. This failing along with the reveal of Endeavor getting exposed, severely damaged if not completely destroyed the people's faith in heroes. The general public will now prove to be just as big a factor as the villains. At the very least because they attacked when they did, Shigeraki is much weaker than he should have been. Because of the fight afterwards he'll at least be out of commission a lot longer than he would have; had he been allowed to finish his procedure. This means the heroes have time to recover before Shigeraki is at full power.

Sean PaulT60

Are you certain? I'm looking online and I'm seeing no one talk about this being something that was implied.

Sean PaulT60

Yeah, this whole crisis acted as a Trial by Fire, a lot of people viewed being a hero as a job. So, when things got this despair inducing the ones whose resolve wasn't up to it, quit.

Sean PaulT60

To Montana's point about the whole it makes sense and is right for the public to be reacting the way they are it totally makes sense. How many hundreds upon hundreds of contracted, professional heroes exist in Japan at this time. Now look at the news, its the same few dozen putting in any work. The Gunga Villa raid was not televised, the actual fight against AFO/Shiggy/Dabi wasn't televised. People knew that Endeavor and some other really major players were doing their best to stop the bad guys. But in this scenario of cities falling on thousands of civilians, Fighting the big bad =/= saving people who need saving. And while yes a lot of heroes are saving people, there are just as many who are like that one guy, seeing it be too much and quitting. That's what's really fueling public opinion (that and the endeavor video). All might left, bad things started, and the heroes meant to save people aren't all trying their hardest and more bad things happen.

Derek Chase

Definitely my favorite theme song

Sparkling Agua

Toga sucks for that

H-Bomb 24

RIP Native

H-Bomb 24

The heroes aren't to blame, but the government sure is, they could have prepared a lot better for what happens after All Might retires and they're also hella not transparent with the people so it makes sense for people to lose trust. Also just in general when a giant disaster like this happens, people lose trust in the sense that they will try to do things to maintain their own safety instead of relying on the heroes. Moving is one solution if you have the means, but also remember what people did in early days of covid? Stocking up massively on essentials, people would be hunkering down in their basements after something like this.

David Bodor

The hero that iida saved from stain was killed in this battle

Wisdom Abrahamson

Something that isn’t really touched on in the main anime but IS explored in-depth in Vigilantes (and is the main reason to read it in the first place tbh) is the fact that Midnight is also really close with Aizawa. She’s also shown to be good friends with Mic, but she’s clearly closer to Aizawa. She actually got Aizawa and Shirakumo spots on her work study since she was a year ahead of them and they didn’t have any lined up yet. So not only did Aizawa just lose yet another super close friend, he also lost the only positive connection he had to that chapter of his life. Mic and Aizawa are officially all each other has left.

Jittercritter

Jeez. Maybe Deku's lucky he was born Quirkless.

H-Bomb 24

The fact that 20,000+ violent criminals rose up almost without opposition until the beginning of the war means that something went terribly wrong, and someone is to blame for that.

Jared Glidden

The momentum doesn't stop.

Rashad T

What people don’t realize is that the doctor for afo wasn’t just making nomu but was also checking kids and their quirks most likely reporting to AFO if he found any worth stealing

Justin

Double upload tdy to get on to the best arc of all of mha by next week?

Chase

Also I agree with Montana that it’s fair to question if the heroes can do their jobs only because I remember Midnight saying they were rusty and hadn’t been training as hard because they knew they had Almight. Maybe if they had continued working as hard they would be more prepared for things like this

Bryan

About the hero that quit on the spot, I feel like it backs up what stain was talking about for people who didn’t agree with him. Fake heroes.

Bryan

Uh I read the manga n I def don’t remember that😭

Bryan

Jeez . . . If it's just implication, then I refuse to believe it. The situation's messed up enough.

H-Bomb 24

He's listed among the casualties. What do you think?

H-Bomb 24

Stain woulda killed that guy on the spot.

H-Bomb 24

I think this is one of the few episodes where a recap is required. The way it's given is as a recap of the heroes' failure and society's crumbling trust in heroes, not a straight recap of what happened. On the logistical side of things, it gave the animators a break after amazingly animating 13 straight episodes. By the way, Kenny, the break between episodes 13 and 14 was only two weeks. Episode 13 came out on Christmas Eve 2022. Episode 14 came out on January 7th, 2023. (Japan doesn't usually take Christmas Eve off.)

Gestrid

Is he at least... alive?

Gestrid

I forgot how absolutely brutal the second half of this episode is. It made me cry, seeing all that again. Rest in peace, Midnight.

Gestrid

Also I believe this arc is supposed to show that in some ways both stain and the MLS were right having a powered society were very few are allowed to use their powers left more people in danger and increased casualties and that when crises occur fake hero’s will be revealed to only have been wanting an easier way to get money and fame

Braden Jackson

I’ll refrase what I said nither side was fully right or wrong but the peoples anger is justified you have to remember that the majority of the population has quirks but it is illegal for them to use them to protect themselves so they are fully dependent on heros not even cops or army can use them and in the end only one man could help them and it’s been nothing but a struggle and also they are not informing the public so what they know is that kids are in constant danger and being hospitalized gassed and kidnapped the people they are paying tax money for are beating kids poorly selecting hero’s and some of them are corrupt and others are quitting mid catastrophe also for the public the endeavor crisis is even worse for hero’s as a whole Cuase it means either that the government couldn’t notice that the number 2 to number 1 hero was beating his family or they did and chose to ignore it showing more corruption or incompetence the hero’s also chose some mixed decision on evacuation of the public that lead to more deaths I do agree that most hero’s themselves are trying their best and besides corrupt and cowardly hero’s like the one who left mid disaster but the body of the hero group as a whole is deserving of criticism especially since it is the civilians only for of super powered protection

Braden Jackson

Yeah, the hero quitting was kind of what Stain had warned about. Many of the heros of the last few decades had grown into the "Allmight" Society, where it was mostly petty crime or Natural disasters. The heros were never really challenged, due to Allmight surpressing most big scale crime. So something like this is something most heroes have never experienced in their lifes. And it is kind of the seperating of the wheat from the chaff. If you cannot hadle this, you shouldn't call yourself a hero. You chose the wrong job. Go home. Especially when you realize that our Herostudents are _15_ and they are watching people die left right and center and still standing here. God those poor babys need therapy.

Saiyasha

After hearing your response about the hero quitting I see the main qualm. Thanks for answering that one

dannydarko27

Absolutely not. It is completely misplaced blame. The people at fault are the criminals destroying things. The response of the public was understandable fear. The correct response would have been to support and double down on the real heroes. They, instead, turned on ALL of them. It was a very real response, we see this happen all the time in the real world, but it is objectively the wrong response. Kenny is right. It's stupid as shit and just emotional disregulation.

Mekar

I completely agree that it is morally wrong for the hero to quit. I believe the point of the scene was to show that, to an extent, Stain was right. Some of the heroes at that point were not really heroes. They just liked the easy rewards, both socially and financially. Hard times will leave only the real heroes standing.

Mekar

When I watch this opening now I think the animators were taking a little too much inspiration from season 7 events in the opening visuals for the second half of season 6 lol

Mekar

Detnerat is a support item company. The fact that they were the biggest hero support item company and their CEO was the leader of the Meta Liberation Army is a big part of the reason why villains had such strong support items all the time. The villains that Bakugo and Todoroki fought even name-dropped Detnerat as their source. The point of the MLA arc is to show how radical extremists can win over corporate leaders through fear.

Mekar

Aw man . . .

H-Bomb 24

Damn when you say it like that…

JTBloodstone

I got to disagree with you on that Kenny everything the hero’s have is because the civilians pay for it and how would you feel if someone you pay uses your money to beet his kids and on a wide scale thing you found out that one man kept you safe for years and once gone a huge catastrophe that they knew was coming lead to the largest casualties in recent time they failed and that’s the problem and in recent times they are not trustworthy they withhold information they get kids kidnapped or hospitalized they beat kids some are just straight up corrupted and you just found out

Braden Jackson

They can’t shoto and Deku were supposed to be in deep trouble with stain caused they used their quirks they only way for citizens to use quirks is if it can’t be hidden like tails and multiple apendeges or if it is on private property that meets a criteria any other Case and a fine is the nicest they can give you

Braden Jackson

Shoot did reddit lie to me!? I apologize if it's a big plot point. I'm an anime only watcher so truly there was no intent. My b.

Æther Paradox

Subtle detail: One of the heroes in the collage of casualties is Native, the hero that Iida, Midoriya and Todoroki saved from Stain back in season 2.

Kyle MacDonald

if I recall correctly, quirks can legally be used by civilians if it's in the name of self defence, but they can't legally use their quirks to save others under any circumstances - which is a fatal flaw in the system

nic ˚୨୧⋆。

this is true but it isn't from a guidebook. geten reveals that he's a himura himself in the manga during a conversation between himself and compress in prison

nic ˚୨୧⋆。

toga killed him, which I find super ironic seeing as he was the hero responsible for how much uraraka loves the effect that heroes and heroic actions have on society

nic ˚୨୧⋆。

The opening and ending of this episode are my favorite op & end of the entire show, kinda sad you skipped the ending tho and would love it if you reacted to in the next reaction.

Markub El Jaden

it wasn't animated, but in the manga it's heavily implied that before she died, midnight was SA'd by the group of villains that killed her

nic ˚୨୧⋆。

you guys should double drop 6x20-21 or 6x22-23 both those sets of episodes go together really well

Tigerclaw

I do understand that logic.

Stache King

Is there a 3rd guidebook out or something because the last one that came out was updated to chapter 235 and that geten reveal wasnt until like 287 so im really confused how thats not a spoiler?

Indifferent Denji

I forgot how this episode ended. The scene with Ururaka was enough to bring a tear to my eyes, watching as people give up but then followed by the kids with midnight. It’s heartbreaking. Part of me is glad we don’t see it directly but I am disappointed she was killed off screen.

Pugz

I get Kenny's point at the end but from their standpoint they lived in a perfectly safe society for DECADES while All Might was a pro and as soon as he retires the collective mass of heroes on the roster isn't enough to stop some villains? It would feel like All Might was the only effective heroes. However wrong that may be in reality.

Phantom Egg

As someone else pointed out, you will ALWAYS have unfair critiques of those whose job is to protect you when things go to shit For MHA in particular, society also got used to all might helping keep things from getting REALLY bad. Bad shit happened, but typically nowhere near what they just witnessed within a few months time. All mights retirement seemingly the catalyst, to go from things being ok to literally THOUSANDS dying can understandably make people question "damn...y'all are so shit at your jobs that ONE GUY was the difference between good times and pure chaos?" (Then sprinkle in the other negative stories, such as endeavors past and hawks stabbing a guy in the back etc)

Jinchuriki87

Agreed. I think people would blame hero society as a whole more then individuals as this was a massive battle with almost all heroes involved. Endeavor and Hawks as they are the top two pros (top brass always gets blamed) and the videos were about them.

Colton Piper

Oh, this one is a heavy one. Sure it's a recap, but it is also pretty much the signs of things to come, everything crumbling around the heros, just as Shigaraki wanted. And can you imagine finding your teacher pretty much beaten to death in the forest? God these Kids have so much friggin trauma.

Saiyasha

I hear you about Midnight. It used to REALLY rub me the wrong way how she was killed off, but I think I get why Horikoshi didn't show it. It's meant to put us in the shoes of the students. They didn't get to see how their teacher dies, so we didn't, either.

H-Bomb 24

I understand Kenny's point of view on the topic of is it okay to blame the hero's for the current state of the country. I agree telling Eraser Head to do better, even though he lost a leg and an eye would be a dick move. But, I think people would blame the heroes as a whole instead of individually. People pay taxes to go to these people to protect them and they failed at their job. I think that is even worse because citizens really cannot defend themselves at all in this universe. As only heroes can use and train their quirks, they are the only ones who can protect against villains. That might be why I somewhat agree with the liberation army's ideals. Quirk usage as a human right. They have a right to be upset with the Hero Institution because the government told them heroes are the only ones who can use their quirks. It is like if the government said everyone besides heroes had to be stuck in a wheelchair. Your legs (like quirks) would atrophy a lot and not be usable/reliable for defense if needed. Thus it forces you to have to depend on heroes who can use their legs. It definitely would make people question why can't we use our legs/quirks to be better able to defend ourselves.

Colton Piper

Yo same and a lot of people were hating on the second one I think it sounds a lot like the older my hero.

Katsuki BakuGOAT

Honestly I love the intro but the first time I saw the first part of this intro it made me sad and wanna cry so like I like it but oof

Babybear47

also I LOVE that the ending commentary on this episode is just the two sides of American Police Reform Legislation(Or lack thereof)

Æther Paradox

I am SO excited for yall to blind watch season 7.

Chelsea Mann

This was probably my favorite episode of MHA…so far. It’s gonna get INSANE now.

Scotsman05

Two things that I took away from this episode. First, the line, "I don't want to be a hero anymore.". Yes it was said by an unknown extra, but that will be a setup for a couple episodes to come. And second, Midnight's death. On my first watch, my heart was shattered upon that reveal for a couple reasons. I liked Midnight as a hero, and I ultimately think she was under-rated. In addition, her death was so disrespectful in that it wasn't shown HOW she died, yet for the one off character Master Driller he got a pretty badass death in the PREVIOUS BLEEPING EPISODE!! But perhaps the biggest takeaway of Midnight's death, was the tone. It effectively, EFFICIENTLY told me this arc was going to be darker than the Camp arc, darker than the Overhaul arc, this was going to be a different beast entirely. And this is all in the first episode of this arc.

Stache King

Fun Fact Geten (The Ice Liberation Front Captain) is Shoto's Second Cousin. His Mom's Cousin's Kid. Which makes sense considering their family's Notoriety for ice powers was grand enough to draw in Endeavor. This is from a character guidebook, not manga/anime, so its supplementary info from the author not really spoilers.

Æther Paradox

I like the second one more

H-Bomb 24

That was a cool horse hero. But nowhere near as handsome as dan, Montana

Katsuki BakuGOAT

I understand Kenny's pov however in real life this happens all the time. People whose tax dollars that go into the paychecks of first responders have a high expectation of the job getting done. For example, if people who are police, doctors, life guards, or anything related to those jobs fail to save a life the blame won't be on individual or whatever that caused the death. People will pin the blame on the ones whose job was to save that life. Ive see this a lot. Especially, on mainstream media and social media like Twitter or YouTube. I believe without a shadow of a doubt that reactions like that will continue to be a thing no matter what. Public outrage is a forever phenomenon. On top of that public outrage doesn't give a crap about the mental state any first responders is in as well. So the idea of supporting them goes out the door honestly.

Kalla

I actually like this episode. Clean up after these amazing fights are a huge part that I feel isn't explored enough. Just how horrible it must be to survive when others can't and who to prioritize. The hard choices. Good episode. 👍

Savage_Rehab

Rip a goat

Katsuki BakuGOAT

Hell yeah! What did you think of the season seven openings?

Katsuki BakuGOAT

Vigilante arc incoming. Low key one of the best. It's goated af

Katsuki BakuGOAT

Yes I love this opening I think this one, The first one in season 3 and the first one from season 7 are my favorite. I can't wait for you guys to see season seven.

Katsuki BakuGOAT

I side with Kenny on the civilians critique of the heroes. They annoy me.

H-Bomb 24

Glad you liked my question! 😁

H-Bomb 24

Yeeaah. I love this OP, too!

H-Bomb 24

I DIDNT KNOW EL BOY DIED HUH??????

Joe Duncan

I used to REALLY not like the way they handled Midnight's death, but I think I get it, now. It's meant to put us in the shoes of the kids. 🥲

H-Bomb 24

Half the ep was recap but I still enjoyed it when it first released. Others didn’t…which I get.

Slash Dragon

Let's go almost in our villain Arc 😜

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