MHA 2x21
Added 2023-10-21 14:00:02 +0000 UTCEnjoy! Next episode on Thursday!
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A couple of things to keep in mind when it comes to Deku and Bakugou being paired up: 1) No one at UA knows the extent of the bullying. Most people know they used to be friends and that something happened between them, so it's kinda unfair to assume the opposite. 2) What they DO know is that Bakugou is aggressive and temperamental towards anyone, but especially towards Deku. Looking at it rationally/objectively, pairing Bakugou up with Deku is throwing his weaknesses right in his face and all but forcing him to confront/acknowledge they exist. Is this unfair to Deku? Well, yes, but... 3) Aizawa paired them BOTH up because of relationships, not just Bakugou. So you can infer that Aizawa thinks that there is some weakness Deku needs to work on that can only be addressed if he is also forced to team up with Bakugou.
Beta Trix
2024-02-28 23:31:40 +0000 UTCWhole conversation at the end while amusing was painful. To Montana, the test isnt fair, that is the point, life isnt fair, you encounter a villian stronger than you and die thats not fair. To design a fair and practical test is a good way to get all the students killed because that would be in no way indicative of the job they are trying to get. To Kenny you claim to not believe in tests, well what are they supposed to do just ask the students if they feel like they should pass? Attitudes like this are why half of the country is barely literate.
joshua
2023-12-24 03:14:13 +0000 UTCNot a spoiler: I remember Montana saying that the students learnt never to trust Aizawa whenever he threatens them with something... I guess she forgot about that.
Vanshika Gulati
2023-11-19 01:01:20 +0000 UTCAlso, in the real world you can "do everything right" and still fail. That sucks, but if you have that experience in an exam, it's an incentive to think more creatively about your options, to push yourself harder, to work on your weaknesses. If you get this experience in a real fight, people die, probably.
Vanshika Gulati
2023-11-19 00:57:12 +0000 UTCI want to just mention: I don't think the final exam is about _judging_ them. It's about teaching them. That's what Aizawa says to All Might when they're talking about the pairings. "Just make sure they actually learn something." Each one of them is unique and they all have their own struggles to overcome. A standardised test isn't going to teach them anything. These tests are specifically tailored to see how the students do when their weaknesses are poked.
Vanshika Gulati
2023-11-19 00:53:25 +0000 UTCAs a student teacher, I have to agree with Montana here. The test, while highly entertaining to watch, is not evenly distributed along the students. That's the same as having an art class but every student is getting graded by a different teacher leaving no place for a norm to be set. Because one teacher might think that creative problem solving is a big deal and score you higher than a different teacher who thinks teamwork is more important. But that aside... great reaction once again!!
Cathy Breuer
2023-11-14 12:30:27 +0000 UTCkenny it is over the course of one year.
jolly
2023-11-09 00:05:08 +0000 UTCThe part where you constantly have to explain to Montana what human emotions are like she's an ai will never not make me laugh holy shit how sheltered were you??
Noctis lucis
2023-11-07 23:13:48 +0000 UTCThis took me the longest time to understand too. Pretty neat how they lay out their school schedule
Julio Salazar
2023-11-03 20:24:00 +0000 UTCWhy do they begin in April with 'finals' in July though that's so interesting. Basically the year is done by July that way unless there's more finals?
Peter Amet
2023-10-24 07:17:02 +0000 UTCIt does make sense saying "this year" if it's end of July though since most of the year has passed and they have a big break before coming back for shorter times. It's weird they have finals in the first semester though and start mid year might be based around festivals, in AUS we start basically end of January and our big break is november/december so it feels yearly whereas Japan and US? are July big break/ends
Peter Amet
2023-10-24 07:16:10 +0000 UTCMontana would absolutely right if in a real world setting you failing did meaning you or someone else could be dead. Especially since the whole reason they changed the exam was in response to the League of Villians.
GreatRiverofKings
2023-10-24 03:22:22 +0000 UTCAnother important point here is that this is UA, THE hero school. There are other hero schools out there which would probably grade this same test along the lines that Montana is arguing for because yes that is a valid way to grade STUDENTS on what they have LEARNED. But UA is markedly different, it is meant to be harsh and wholly unfair, because the world of a hero IS unfair. Graduating from UA is a bigger deal than graduating from any other school with a Hero Courses, not because those other students aren't worthy of being a hero but because UA is making them the BEST heroes. Things at this school are unfair and harsh, and yes it can be easy to lose track of that behind the colorful animation and goofy antics of the class room, but ultimately this is the school that produces the best of the best, the biggest names, the worlds greatest heroes. And they do so by being harsh, and punishing those who fall short. If you want to rise to the top, then do so in spite of all the circumstances that might hold you back. Go beyond them, Plus Ultra. That's what it means to be a UA student.
Rob Carlstrom
2023-10-23 04:12:31 +0000 UTCLogan covers my thoughts on the teachers fairly well. To give Montana the benefit of the doubt, she is under the false impression that this test is the final test of the year. This is their equivalent of the mid-terms, and simply sets the tone for what they need to improve on. I agree that pinning their ability to join their friends at camp on such a test is unfair, but as the principal states, they taking things farther than usual because they've never faced such an imminent threat before. That said, the entire test is "Can you properly assess your abilities compared to your opponent, and either capture the villain or escape from them?" With this being the test, if the students fail, then they'd be dead in a real-world situation. This is the closest they can get to in the field experience, I cannot see how anything else could be more practical. Also, the idea of giving the same test to each student is patently absurd, even by Montana's own admission in previous reactions. Each student is unique, just like each teacher, and each villain. Having hand crafted exams for each student to test them on their weaknesses is by far superior to testing everyone the same way, putting some at advantage and others at disadvantage. The test is set up so that each of them are at a disadvantage, and the test is "Can you identify the fact that you are at a disadvantage and find a way to succeed regardless?" I will admit that the test is particularly unfair to Deku as there is no way his partner would cooperate with him. That said, if Deku doesn't find a way to succeed, either by letting Baku fail on his own or finding a way to work around Bakugo, then he deserves to fail. There is no guarantee that he will get along with every other hero he works with in the future. Some people have irreconcilable personalities that will never mesh. That can't stop you from saving people.
DJ the Dentist
2023-10-23 01:40:58 +0000 UTCLol it's "everything we've learned this year (so far)." Kenny, I think it would be helpful to go rewatch the end of s6 for this. It is clearly stated where in the timeline that point is. This is the finals for their first term. The story began in April of Deku's 8th grade year, the same month he meets All Might.. He started 9th grade at UA in April the next year. These final exams take place in early July to end the first term. After this first term, Japanese schools go on summer break, then pick up again at the beginning of September. They have a winter break for about two weeks around New Year before Second Term and then finish the year in March.
Mekar
2023-10-22 20:55:02 +0000 UTCThe argument about the exam kinda feels like the most important point is being ignored. Montana said if you do the entire exam really well and then get knocked out by your teacher right at the end you fail is bad. But in a fight with Stain, getting five feet from safety and then hit anyway might just mean you’re dead. The school’s job is to prep these kids for way higher stakes than “I might have to miss the fun classes.” And they’re taking the love and death stages of the world the kids are going into very seriously
Logan Worm
2023-10-22 17:37:01 +0000 UTCAll good points.
Booryanne
2023-10-22 15:32:01 +0000 UTCYeah, that's the one. I only say watch it before since it specifically mentions the locale of the movie (which if they watch it in order, might confuse Montana they bring it up "again" after they already went) so I figure either A) they watch it before the movie or B) when they watch it later, Kenny makes sure to explain how it's a tie in beforehand.
Jinchuriki87
2023-10-22 15:05:58 +0000 UTCWait are you talking about "Save the world with Love"? Totally forgot that episode even existed. Your right that the episode has tie ins with the movie, but that's basically all it has (it seems like it was just made to advertise the movie, and its second lowest rated episode). So while you could consider a "prequel", nothing in it is necessary to watch/understand the movie. And it seems weird to go out of your way to watch it and it the opening does spoil a later arc. I don't think they'll be confused by it later.
The Lorax
2023-10-22 15:02:09 +0000 UTCI would also argue it is unfair to assume Aizawa should know that Bakugo bullied Deku. For one thing, he really doesn't anymore, and sure he is a jerk to Deku but he is a jerk to everyone so that's not unusual. Not to mention that while we see the flashbacks and interpret them as bullying, Deku has (to my knowledge) never once expressed that Bakugo bullied him. Like, I think everyone basically just sees them as old childhood friends that had a falling out, because that is pretty much how Deku is constantly expressing the relationship.
David L
2023-10-22 13:49:39 +0000 UTCSo then I think it makes sense if they were to watch that setup episode prior to the movie just to avoid the confusion when it comes up later in S3, right?
Jinchuriki87
2023-10-22 13:40:13 +0000 UTCIt could also just come from a misread of the one fight we did see. Like, they basically spelled out that it was a test of decision making, of evaluating the situation and opting for the best course of action. In which case, even if one could pass on good performance (which honestly is probably true since we know you can fail off bad performance) Sato and Kirishima would still certainly fail because they made the worst possible choice. They basically opted into an endurance match against someone with infinite stamina, which is just an objectively wrong choice (Deku quickly notes as much, that winning that way is impossible). On the other hand, Kirishima literally said he knows Cementos can't move around quickly, which means he would have a difficult time pursuing them. Trading off to preserve stamina and/or avoiding fights while making a run for the exit, or splitting up so one draws his attention while the other flees would have been more likely methods of success. Even if they still ultimately couldn't win due to the bad matchup, I think some variation of trying to flee could have still got them a passing grade.
David L
2023-10-22 13:37:58 +0000 UTCOh yeah that's true! I totally forgot All for One shows up in the movie (as a cameo mostly) which they wouldn't have seen before then. But timeline wise, the movie takes place at the end of season 2.
The Lorax
2023-10-22 13:04:55 +0000 UTCThe lorax is correct. after looking it up myself, the timeline is technically before they go to camp. I just know the actual setup episode is S3E20. So if I may make a suggestion...Perhaps go ahead and watch that episode after the finale of S2 so it doesn't pop up later and add possible confusion? I just know that by watching the movie now, you'll get a brief look at A4O (with his new look with the helmet) before he's revealed with it (after camp in kamino) in the actual anime.
Jinchuriki87
2023-10-22 12:44:07 +0000 UTCNo your right Kenny, it's between season 2 and 3. It can't happen any time after 3 starts because they go to camp immediately and after that... well...
The Lorax
2023-10-22 12:39:21 +0000 UTCi was told its in between season 2 and 3, is it not?
Letts React
2023-10-22 12:34:40 +0000 UTCKind of just a consistent problem with these type of stories where the hero comes in at the 11th hour and starts unbelievably weaker than the big bad they have to fight at the end. At least MHA kinda sorta gets around it with the idea that Deku has all the power he will ever need right from minute 1 and it is just a matter of unlocking it, so the speed makes a little more sense (his improvement is still crazy fast though).
David L
2023-10-22 12:27:53 +0000 UTCI think the scoring system comes more into mind in cases where one teammate does all the work essentially while the other does a terrible fucking job and consequently the scores would reflect who actually contributed to the success of the final so the other can’t ride the coattails of their success.
SomewhatAnonymous
2023-10-22 10:07:27 +0000 UTCSide note/question for you Kenny! I saw that you already had the questions for the Two Heroes movie posted. Will y'all be watching it so early? Because I'm pretty sure the set-up episode for the movie is like episode 20 of season 3.
Jinchuriki87
2023-10-22 04:15:01 +0000 UTCOk for starters, I'm glad people explained the school schedule thing, because I too have been royally confused by it. Second, I think there was a disconnect with what exactly Montana took issue with because obviously, Kenny, YOU know the final outcomes and she doesn't! Lmao
Jinchuriki87
2023-10-22 04:05:29 +0000 UTCSchool there begins in April and is divided into 3 roughly 3 month semesters. So these finals are at the end of their first semester (before summer break). I will say if they were second years, they would no longer be Class 1-A. But I will say no more.
Fenixnade
2023-10-22 03:30:58 +0000 UTCAlso I feel like Montana thinks it's more serious than it is. The stakes are camp, which is to work on your advanced techniques. If you're weak on the basics, you spend time in summer school improving on them instead of being at camp with people who are already ahead of you in their master of techniques, their own power, cooperation, and strategy. Seems sensible.
fr0st
2023-10-22 00:06:06 +0000 UTCThe basic question is: what if Bakugo and Deku were ambushed by a real world villain? You can either escape or fight and if you can't do either, you're probably dead. I thought this was a really fair way to test them and force them to overcome weaknesses, strategize and learn when it's best to just swallow your pride and escape. It's particularly interesting because if Deku escaped (did everything right) but Bakugo was insistent on fighting and losing, Deku would not leave him so it's a fail.
fr0st
2023-10-22 00:04:09 +0000 UTCKenny just Google the Japanese school year, it will clear up so much confusion
Zak Moran
2023-10-21 23:01:59 +0000 UTC"What's sexier than a hero(woman) who can 'get the job done' quickly?" Is a double entandre. If you're looking for it, her and Mt. Lady's dialogue is fool of them.
DthDisguise
2023-10-21 22:32:00 +0000 UTCWhen they say "everything we've learned this year" what they mean is "everything we've learned this year SO FAR." So we've only been in UA for about 3 months months or so at this point in the story. Remember, the Japanese school year is different. It starts in April and goes to July, then they have their summer break. Typically, students also get summer homework that needs to be finished before break is over. After that, it comes back in September, stops in December for winter break, then back in January until the year ends in March.
Taizen
2023-10-21 21:51:12 +0000 UTC"i fucking hate school so much" you're so real for this, montana
Eric C
2023-10-21 20:06:07 +0000 UTCI’m dying. You know Montana probably was arguing on the exam for a good half hour after filming while eating pasta and I’m here for it. Me too girl.
thevoidbender
2023-10-21 19:01:32 +0000 UTCCame here to say exactly this, as I may have been the original gas-lighter here.
Dylan Snodgrass
2023-10-21 18:39:51 +0000 UTCi was just thinking this! American standardized testing also has this issue. A test that isn't catered to the individuals would literally be the "judging a fish based off if it can climb a tree" way of testing that doesn't help skill building. With this, it also keeps it a challenge for people like todo or bakugo who stand out as gifted in the class so they don't just cruise through not having grown in their hero work at all.
Kayla Hall
2023-10-21 18:15:35 +0000 UTC3. more. episodes.
mal
2023-10-21 17:41:43 +0000 UTCpretty sure he's finished S6
Blaster man1129
2023-10-21 17:25:43 +0000 UTCCan someone remind me please, up to which episode Kenny knows this show? No spoilers pls.
Keyblade
2023-10-21 17:21:59 +0000 UTCThe way I see it, teamwork between people like Deku and Bakugo is important because it prepares them for the real world, where they may be expected to team up with people who don't work well together. For example, what if Endeavor was forced to team up with All Might? Also, the teachers knowing the students' quirks is realistic to a real world fight because villains (and the public in general) have an idea of what each hero's quirk is. The same can be said for the students knowing the teachers' quirks. Small time villains aren't typically strong enough to pose any real threat to a hero, but, for big-time villains, heroes typically already have a good idea of what the villain's quirk is or what it could be when they're going into the fight. The students are supposed to treat their teachers as big-time villains as they're going into the fight. Being paired with a teacher or partner they might have trouble with also tests their skills more than pairing them with someone that's easy for them to beat or avoid.
Gestrid
2023-10-21 17:21:27 +0000 UTCI like the idea of pitting students directly against the teachers they'd have most difficulty with because it shows the faculty as actually catering to the individuals rather than having them all meet a standard. We saw it with Shinso (mind control guy) that the entry exams' standardization actually prevents certain people from making the cut. Also by the teachers being good counter to the kids it is a good way of showing if the students can be aware of their own weaknesses and avoid them or overcome them.
Anthony Racano
2023-10-21 16:30:41 +0000 UTCHaha I just want everyone to know I’m SORRY
Letts React
2023-10-21 16:27:41 +0000 UTCsomeone may have already commented but Kenny, the Japanese school year goes from April-April like a literal whole year, just small breaks in between. The beginning of season 6 is when they would have gone up to be second years but obv was halted because of what happened :)
Synth
2023-10-21 16:12:29 +0000 UTCI think it makes total sense why they would pair up Bakugo and Deku against All Might. It's a very real possibility that either one of them will be in proximity to AFO at any given time since that threat has become more of a reality lately. Whether or not they hate eachother will not matter at all if AFO shows up and bodily handles them. It's supposed to be difficult or it wouldn't highlight their flaws and make them think about them. I would rather them test that while the only threat is the possibility of not going to summer camp instead of them not living anymore. Nezu talked about how they have to make the test more intense, because they as a school are tasked with raising young heros. These increases in threats are actively putting the pressure on these kids to make sure they don't die when since there is active threats to their lives.
Booryanne
2023-10-21 16:10:54 +0000 UTCI think the entire disagreement at the end was basically Kenny arguing the test needs to be hard to prepare them for the real world, and if someone can't complete one of the two objectives, they didn't show the required skill. Meeting the objectives is the MINIMUM requirement to him. And as we'll see, the show takes this approach (Mineta and Sero, Uraraka and Aoyama) Meanwhile, Montana agrees with needing to prepare them for the real world part and that the test should be hard, but she takes issue with the exam riding entirely on whether you can achieve one of just two objectives. Even if you don't manage to escape or capture, you could have done a lot of things right, worked well with your team mate, ALMOST succeeded, but if you don't do the one thing required to pass you get the same score as someone who literally did nothing, which I think Montana sees as unfair. Meeting the objectives is the OPTIMAL outcome for her. If you can meet the objective, you more than demonstrated your skill, because the test is rigged against you. This disagreement also could partially stem from Kenny knowing how the fights go (and that most people pass), and Montana not knowing (seeing only one fight where the students got destroyed) and assuming most people will fail and the tests are harder than they really are.
The Lorax
2023-10-21 16:01:45 +0000 UTCThat is true! And to be honest Deku character development and strength development is something you have a hard time believing took just a year… I mean I could not believe that barely six months have passed between S1E5 and “Infite 100%” episode… then I think I ranted a bit in my head about “Deku stop complaining about progressing slow your progress is unbelievably fast!”
Spooky_man
2023-10-21 15:51:15 +0000 UTCMy personal head cannon is that Momo is so rich because she can just make diamonds, gold, and bands of cash, thank you for coming to my pep talk.
JeffersonGE
2023-10-21 15:50:43 +0000 UTClol my teacher taught us the quadratic equation with that same song
Mars
2023-10-21 15:48:44 +0000 UTCDon't sweat it, keeping track of the amount of time passing in most shows is a nightmare.
Darthwin Wright
2023-10-21 15:47:15 +0000 UTCKenny starting to copy paste replies after so many people told him why the entire series happens in only one year is so funny haha
Robin B
2023-10-21 15:19:40 +0000 UTCyea i def was wrong haha just feels impossible that it all happened so fast!
Letts React
2023-10-21 15:01:11 +0000 UTCyea i def was wrong haha just feels impossible that it all happened so fast!
Letts React
2023-10-21 15:01:08 +0000 UTCNot gonna lie, as soon as Kenny started talking math my brain shut off...Im not good with numbers :P
Trenton Thrift
2023-10-21 14:35:49 +0000 UTCIt is one year Kenny! Japan's school year starts in April and ends in the next March. The final exam they are talking about is for their first semester which is april-august (their summer break being end of july to late august). If you pay attention to the seasons showing up in the show you would notice winter passed in s5 and spring started in s6, showing in s7 it is the end of their first year.
Scar
2023-10-21 14:29:07 +0000 UTCI think the year thing might be a mistranslation. They probably meant semester or term. Schools in Japan have 3 terms over a year that have smaller breaks in between compared to schools in America. Since these finals are right before summer break, this would be the end of their first term that goes from April to the end of July.
Thiivi
2023-10-21 14:25:21 +0000 UTCTrust me, EVERYONE has that reaction
Laggy
2023-10-21 14:23:34 +0000 UTCyou're right, def wrong by me haha
Letts React
2023-10-21 14:22:58 +0000 UTCnoted haha I just can't fathom how all this happened in 1 year
Letts React
2023-10-21 14:22:43 +0000 UTCdang, i guess im wrong again haha
Letts React
2023-10-21 14:22:28 +0000 UTCtakes place over one year tho. They are finishing the first(april to july) of 3 semesters hence why theyre going to summer camp. I think at the end of season 5 they say theyre nearly done their first year, i might be wrong
iArcade
2023-10-21 14:20:12 +0000 UTCPretty sure they're still in first grade/year in latest season. They're still referred to as 1A instead of 2A.
Laggy
2023-10-21 14:13:29 +0000 UTCKenny IT IS true! From S1E4 when Deku starts his school to S6E18 when the vigilante arc starts, it is exactly ONE YEAR… the way they are counting school years in Japan is from April to April… by the time of this episode it just been two months since S1E5 Yeah a lot happened in one year… That why I find it funny when Gran Turino said “the day Deku becomes the world’s greatest hero”… it is a lot closer than anyone could ever guess!
Spooky_man
2023-10-21 14:12:56 +0000 UTCOn the topic of the age difference between Midnight and Mt Lady, I believe the latter is 26 and the former is 33.
Kyle MacDonald
2023-10-21 14:07:46 +0000 UTC
