Camo Bonus
Added 2024-06-09 15:58:18 +0000 UTC
Liam was on vacation for this one.
So I'm late to this, but I can talk about how amazing effect the US Navy NWU(blueberry) uniforms, our hit by car rate for the US skyrocketed after these uniforms were adopt as they were impossible for car drivers to see at night.
Landshark
2024-10-22 01:55:18 +0000 UTC
Okay Im happy love my Italian desert tricolour
Layla Saturn
2024-08-20 07:19:21 +0000 UTC
if i dont hear about M1929 Telo Mimetica im gonna be slightly miffed but still entertained B)
Layla Saturn
2024-08-20 05:26:07 +0000 UTC
The Royal Navy did a lot of interesting camouflage in WWII. Just check out the Western Approaches camouflage.
Kevin Bodel
2024-07-30 06:30:38 +0000 UTC
I mean, Russian aircraft were painted in that fashion since back in the [insert Soviet national anthem drop] so it's ok. You can give it to them.
Besides, the SU-27 is fucking beautiful.
Vince Whitacre
2024-07-22 11:42:14 +0000 UTC
Look, I don't only want to bring back the Blackbird because it's the coolest plane ever, but... I mean, yes, that's actually the only reason I want it brought back.
I grew up near Wright-Patt, and saw it fly overhead a couple times. Fuckin hell, what a bird.
Vince Whitacre
2024-07-22 11:37:03 +0000 UTC
Regarding the pink camo used by the British special forces, they discovered pink works well in the desert because they had trouble finding a downed pink plane. I don’t know if it was a recon plane or civilian but they couldn’t find it until they were basically right on top of it.
Leona3500
2024-07-21 10:26:36 +0000 UTC
You guys should do an episode on the Sea Dart, tl;dr 1950s attempt at a supersonic seaplane, goes about as well as you'd think
Brandon Spearow
2024-07-14 06:59:09 +0000 UTC
back in middle school my brother said that airsoft was at least 50% a fashion show and you know what he was right
Lain of the Wired
2024-07-12 17:54:55 +0000 UTC
Yooooo, been seeing BTT everywhere lately!
Brandon P
2024-07-09 10:45:32 +0000 UTC
I ordered my WWSD in Cerakote E-210 Elite Moss partly because of this episode.
Jarrod Furcsik
2024-07-07 02:06:49 +0000 UTC
Please!
Kevin Brighton
2024-07-05 15:52:43 +0000 UTC
Hey longtime fan, I know you guys have joked about doing another episode on 9/11. I think there's a number of things that could be covered that would still be interesting, anyways I just wanted to say I love the podcast since the Tacoma Narrows episode.
If you guys ever plan on doing a episode on 9/11 again I actually am the co-creator of the 9/11 Archive subreddit & Discord, we have ab 41k members and are constantly reaching out and talking to people who were there and digging into pieces of media that are lost or extremely rare.
Between Two Towers
2024-07-03 15:21:15 +0000 UTC
watching this episode and then looking at the camo my warhammer 40k darktide character has and sweating nervously
Lain of the Wired
2024-07-01 17:15:17 +0000 UTC
yo where u get that pic of me :O
Harrison Sanchez
2024-06-30 21:33:31 +0000 UTC
The thing about camo on vehicles, aircraft, ships and so on, is that its pretty cool stuff until you happen to be the soldier/crayon eater/seaman/airman being voluntold to touch up, or worse, repaint the darn thing for the nth time. It's part of the reason why this stuff isn't done all that much anymore. Nvm the economics and maintenance angle of it.
Yesterday's Pvt Snuffy is today's SGT Maj Saltmine, and he remembers how much he hated that shit. Meanwhile Col. BrightIdea and Gen. Buttcaresser will do a double take and catch a case of avoidant personality disorder when they get to the part of the documentation going over the cost when they're about to force the action. No one anywhere likes to have to paint stuff and would rather just drape netting and leaf, twigs and shit on stuff. That or just straight up partially bury it when concealment becomes an actual concern.
Also, the stuff that a lot of folks say about materials and coatings isn't cope, it's a real concern. Even stuff like trucks is covered in specialty crap that's very expensive to work with. It's why even long after we've forgotten about the ME again (if we ever do) you'll still keep stumbling into crap painted in tan.
Nvm aircraft, especially stealth ones. The aggressor squad bit is not all that relevant, because they use stuff to alter the radar signature of their stuff to match that of the Russian's and Chinese. IE, stealth stuff in exercise is most likely low-observability at best. So keeping the F35/22/117s up to their actual stealth spec is not all that relevant when they're doing red team stuff.
With ships what their painting with is very much a maintenance and operating cost concern. So unless the 3rd worldwide boogaloo breaks out and ai, camera guided missiles become a thing or whatever, the prospect of going back to ship camo will continue to be a waste of cash.
Meanwhile, the Navy will continue to be in a rough place when it comes to keeping ships running. Which it will continue to be a concern until congress unfucks itself, we get a DoD secretary willing to purge their officer corps from top to bottom, and the Chinese decide to start the next big funni. Nvm that there's no real use for ship camo as already noted. That is unless DARPA comes up with some funky Non-Credible Defense tier stuff that actually works in the future ofc.
/barelycoherentramble
Overlord17
2024-06-20 21:06:26 +0000 UTC
"No, hey man, if we're gonna wear uniforms, man, you know, let's have everybody wear something different."--Cheech
anamoy
2024-06-19 00:08:28 +0000 UTC
Is this going to show up on the podcast bonus feed?
Dave
2024-06-18 22:14:34 +0000 UTC
A friend of mine and his wife got married in camo tux and dress.
Jason Young
2024-06-18 04:52:43 +0000 UTC
I fully endorse CADPAT and accept Satan of the Computer as our one true overlord. Plus I can go to work and feel like I'm in an MS-DOS FPS!
pingus
2024-06-18 03:26:37 +0000 UTC
Seeing even now in Ukraine the Russians digging up kit including uniforms of the 40s and 50s to kit out their lesser units and in particular those from the DPR or foreign contractors.
Graham ARISS
2024-06-16 17:07:34 +0000 UTC
The reason why the Americans were using camo on their ships in 1945, was because the Japanese had little if any ship radar capability. Japanese knowing that American ships had radar had no reason to waste their time.
Graham ARISS
2024-06-16 16:57:32 +0000 UTC
Interestingly in the Middle East the British built a fantastic rail marshaling yard with a fake steam engine that made smoke, and during the night they would move wagons around. However the German intelligence got to know it was fake so the Luftwaffe turned up one night and dropped a wooden bomb on it. Only problem with showing off like this, was that it blew the cover of a key agent in Cairo that led to British rolling up the German intelligence operation in Egypt.
Graham ARISS
2024-06-16 16:47:30 +0000 UTC
I'm so here for November's love for Mia Mulder, but I feel obliged to let the internet void know that I simped for Mia before it was cool (before November)
Also, can confirm, Canada is a strange country. I used to love larping as a soldier from my country in videogames, but I've lost interest as I've grown older and discovered that 1. Our camo sticks out like a sore thumb compared to other modern camouflage (in videogames*), 2. Our Elcan C79 sight (mounted on our small arms) also kinda sucks compared to other modern sights, and 3. I like larping as a guerrilla fighter instead because they usually got great videogame drip. Also, 4, we're a tool of imperialism usually.
My pa, however, says that our current camo is fantastic in Canada's boreal forest. The "best we've ever had" as he put it. So I guess it's not too uncanny valley to be effective.
David MacDonald
2024-06-16 07:02:44 +0000 UTC
Can we get this on the podcast (without video) feed?
Magical Johnson
2024-06-16 05:50:12 +0000 UTC
ah cool a Metal Gear Solid 3 episode
dumbest girl alive
2024-06-14 16:13:25 +0000 UTC
Right but only to cull the herd and with severe restrictions for times and proximity to homes. It’s not like you’re going for a walk to hot dog dam and you run into 20 hunters.
Jamie Fritz
2024-06-13 19:36:29 +0000 UTC
re: the Shi'a deathsquad black multicam, I swear General Shepard's personal deathsquad also used something similar in the old Modern Warfare 2
RC-1991
2024-06-13 17:51:48 +0000 UTC
Simple
Robin
2024-06-12 19:41:22 +0000 UTC
Can confirm, this is not how militaries teach people to shoot lying down any more.
Also I always thought those dumbfuck Navy ones should have been treated to turn bright orange when exposed to salt water, that way they might actually be able to see you if you fall overboard.
Matt
2024-06-12 12:08:06 +0000 UTC
Found Bibi’s account
Matt
2024-06-12 12:03:50 +0000 UTC
Love the Maple, Hate the beavers. If you don't like it, sorry.
Inconspicuous old man and mime
2024-06-11 20:46:05 +0000 UTC
Not even if a dalek was trying to exterminate your nan?
Cate Kneale
2024-06-11 20:13:36 +0000 UTC
Why would they need to know that when all they want to know is which are the commies?
Cate Kneale
2024-06-11 20:08:41 +0000 UTC
My grandfather flew in one of the Nagasaki chase planes and photographed the atomic bombing. He later moved to Japan, married a Japanese woman and taught photography there.
Aerial photography is insane
The Best Sean
2024-06-11 19:37:30 +0000 UTC
aw man, you recorded this just slightly too early to include the just announced "multi-terrain" CADPAT that includes, and i am not kidding, "randomly placed tiny maple leaves" mixed into the pattern, because this country thrives in a state of maple flavoured self-parody
Oli
2024-06-11 17:19:40 +0000 UTC
Artist’s impression was uncanny. I didn’t think Craig Fingersuck sitting shirtless in front of a laptop could so effectively emulate a transgender woman in New Zealand sitting in front of a phone eating pasta
Heyszen
2024-06-11 07:30:45 +0000 UTC
CHOCOLATE CHIP
And a super special secret thanks to
2024-06-11 02:48:38 +0000 UTC
And they're slow. If you need to know what an area looks like right now, satellites are out
Chrome Cylon
2024-06-11 00:02:42 +0000 UTC
The Pittsburgh park hunters thing is 100% real and was so successful they’re expanding it to other parks
Ron Owens
2024-06-10 21:14:20 +0000 UTC
I would like to see a bonus episode on fictional camoflage now.
floatybirb
2024-06-10 20:42:15 +0000 UTC
Just saying carrier flight decks are not air conditioned.
Stephen R.
2024-06-10 19:51:00 +0000 UTC
The antisemitism of the pod has gotten so severe the only Jewish representation has been removed. Obviously the only remedy is for the next podcast to just consist of the hosts saying "Israel can do no wrong" for five hours.
Jacob Burton-Edwards
2024-06-10 15:48:55 +0000 UTC
Starting this one now, and I have all my fingers crossed that there will be a slide showing the camo worn in Ali G Indahouse 🤞🤞🙏🤞🤞🤣
heffa
2024-06-10 15:37:31 +0000 UTC
20,000. Geebers
Ian Mackintosh
2024-06-10 11:49:54 +0000 UTC
"Aerial Reconnaissance, largely made obsolete by satellites" hafta disagree with you there November. U2, Global Hawk, Reaper, Pred, Grey Eagle, and an endless array of Scan Eagle clones still do a ton of ISR. Satellites are vulnerable because they're always locatable.
Whisky_Delta
2024-06-10 11:45:27 +0000 UTC
'ighly 'illegal
BrunchMonster
2024-06-10 07:52:25 +0000 UTC
Yes.
I need, nay, Demand those sailors in those booty-huggint white flare pants.
BrunchMonster
2024-06-10 07:51:31 +0000 UTC
I love the reference the Hench app. Nicely done
Josh Anderson
2024-06-10 06:55:37 +0000 UTC
No winter camo variants :(
Matt Rush
2024-06-10 06:55:10 +0000 UTC
It felt to me that it was more saying that no side mattered. Just kind of an exercise in shitting on everyone involved including the journalists, anybody involved, *and* anybody trying to stay out of the conflict. Kind of a waste of time it felt like
Kelvin
2024-06-10 05:39:45 +0000 UTC
Enjoying devons dragonfly defensive text
Hollie Greenwood
2024-06-10 05:25:07 +0000 UTC
For all non-combat situations the US military should go back to the Korean War era uniforms with ties tucked between the buttons. And for cops I know that Menlo Park experiment where they wore blazers was considered a failure because the cops all felt like dorks wearing them but to me that is a rousing success.
Brian Danger Hicks
2024-06-10 04:49:45 +0000 UTC
Activate Windows stepping up in Liam's absence, really strong showing today.
Ryan
2024-06-10 04:43:27 +0000 UTC
Ah yes, the 5-1 camouflage. This kind of walkable urban camouflage is actually illegal in most us districts
Mthaytr
2024-06-10 03:14:05 +0000 UTC
ive always counted drone stuff counts as war fighting
Joshua Hughes
2024-06-10 03:03:23 +0000 UTC
Going into combat wearing woodland camo body armor and an ACU uniform was great because it basically made you a 1980s video game boss with visually distinct weak points.
Peevish Giraffe
2024-06-10 03:00:10 +0000 UTC
BFA here who had never heard of vorticism and immediately looked it up, wtf this is so influential I can't believe I'd never heard of it, gotta use this to design backgrounds in comic books
Faye-Belle Couvrette
2024-06-10 02:19:15 +0000 UTC
My old Dad, who spent Sept 44 - April 45 as an infantryman with 2nd Cdn Div in NW Europe and then after the war, HATED seeing Canadian soldiers going around in camos in Ottawa. As if they'd be sent overseas without time to change uniforms. Thought it was putting on airs. He hated the whole 'warrior' or 'warfighter' crap as well. I see some civvy wearing camos and can't help thinking 'Prat!'
Mike Traynor
2024-06-10 02:17:54 +0000 UTC
Vacay Liam
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-06-10 01:19:17 +0000 UTC
So it's as deep as Far Cry 5
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-06-10 00:36:11 +0000 UTC
The rifleman has his sling around his foot to put tension on his rifle hold and prevent himself from hitting himself in the face with recoil
Cholula Hot Sauce
2024-06-10 00:12:18 +0000 UTC
that and the (i think belgian?) camo and you got something out of cruelty squad
Lain of the Wired
2024-06-10 00:08:38 +0000 UTC
i cant stop thinking about how that painted over crack on the stahlhelm image looks like a vein
Lain of the Wired
2024-06-10 00:08:16 +0000 UTC
plllleeeeaaase go back to someone doing your subtitles. auto generated are so difficult to follow. also i love you both more than life.
Jes
2024-06-10 00:04:52 +0000 UTC
oh yeah hunting is basically a fashion statement when i was in highschool my hunting jacket was just an 40k imperial comissar jacket for a cosplay originally lmao
Lain of the Wired
2024-06-09 23:37:56 +0000 UTC
Thinking about the urban trash bag ghillie suit
Booti_Boi69
2024-06-09 23:37:18 +0000 UTC
Err... yes, Hawaiian shirts do count as urban camouflage. I'm teaching photography and it's my top recommendation. Add a wide brim hat, waddly walk, and a monopod. Bonus points for foreign accent. You will be able to take photos anywhere largely unbothered by nosy security guards.
Christian Bloch
2024-06-09 23:01:59 +0000 UTC
It's fun trying to paint the USN Measures into 1/6000th ship miniatures. Especially destroyers. Looks cool when you pull it off though.
James Mudrock
2024-06-09 22:59:45 +0000 UTC
I was so excited for you to get to Canadian csno. Lolol thry still use it
Icia
2024-06-09 22:41:38 +0000 UTC
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/war-game-review-pure-nightmare-fuel-about-2024-election-riots
rk
2024-06-09 22:28:11 +0000 UTC
Real US military and government officials simulate a coup after a disputed election. Insurgents take capitals, disinformation is spreading, and the documentary-makers want to see how the officials would react. Chris Jones of the Marine Corps, Kris Goldsmith of the Army, etc. deal with Oath Keepers, Q Anon crazies, etc. in the war game designed by non-partisan group Vet Voice. Fascinating.
rk
2024-06-09 22:22:35 +0000 UTC
god how did I know there would be multicam black hate. They already don’t make it in the womens field pants and you kick me while I’m down lmao
Aura
2024-06-09 22:18:30 +0000 UTC
Im in full dad mode a Model Morris CS9 in Caunter this is great timing.
Maggie+Al
2024-06-09 22:17:42 +0000 UTC
You guys will want to see the War Game documentary when it comes out! ❤️🙌
rk
2024-06-09 22:16:13 +0000 UTC
They call DPM 'Malvinas' in Indonesia
Rory D Duffus
2024-06-09 22:12:02 +0000 UTC
My great grandfather was a spotter for artillery in WW1 and actually used one of those fake trees. He recalled (to my dad I wasn't alive at the same time as him) watching a German infantry advance led by an officer on horseback. The horse just turned around with the officer with it as soon as they started firing artillery, leaving the soldiers to just carry on without him.
Adam Barker-wyatt
2024-06-09 21:30:46 +0000 UTC
My ex BF is an op granby veteran, and the only one of the things November mentioned about desert shield he never complained to me about the after effects of was the rubber fetish gear. Makes you proud to be british?
Athena Von Tharsis
2024-06-09 21:29:53 +0000 UTC
Mossy Oak >>>> Realtree, from real experience hunting CWD-carrying rats
Mikachu
2024-06-09 21:07:32 +0000 UTC
There is bow hunting in the Wissahickon, to control the deer population.
Marianne C. Porter
2024-06-09 20:58:30 +0000 UTC
I hadn’t viewed it from that perspective but that’s deep too. The movie is good in the art of saying a lot by saying nothing. I took that it was the horrors and confusion of war without saying it out loud. Ironic for a movie about journalists
Jason Machacek
2024-06-09 20:47:14 +0000 UTC
Two words: venison cheesesteak
Matthew Thiffault
2024-06-09 20:39:58 +0000 UTC
yo where u ge that pic of me tits out infront of my laptop XD
Harrison Sanchez
2024-06-09 20:32:08 +0000 UTC
Yeah, it very much feels like it's trying to say that there's no such thing as a "noble" war, that the only good guys in any war are the civilians caught in the crossfire
Subspace Jet Witch
2024-06-09 19:56:47 +0000 UTC
ARGGGH! The mirror can be a little surpsrising someimes, sorry.
Athena Von Tharsis
2024-06-09 19:44:39 +0000 UTC
My understanding about Alex Garland's A24's Civil War is that you're not supposed to know which side is the wokes and which side is the chuds as a sort of statement about how Americans never bother learning who are the wokes and the chuds in other conflicts.
Brian Danger Hicks
2024-06-09 19:36:04 +0000 UTC
I can't imagine why a British trans woman would have an intense interest in how to stay safe and unnoticed in a hostile environment
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-06-09 19:31:43 +0000 UTC
So that Canadian dudes boots aren’t painted. Canada issued CADPAT leather boots for a period of time.
And btw, the Digi-Cam devil has a name for his mortal form. Dr Guy Cramer who founded Hyperstealth Ltd
The Curious Case of Caley V
2024-06-09 18:57:48 +0000 UTC
Re: the end comments. It's not a polycule, it's a fire team.
Athena W
2024-06-09 18:55:07 +0000 UTC
I got the notification for this episode while I was on my way to the rifle range
RiffusKhan
2024-06-09 18:54:10 +0000 UTC
I'm looking at the world map of camouflage patterns, and as far as I can see, Sweden is the only country that uses simple, sharp-angled geometric shapes
Subspace Jet Witch
2024-06-09 18:54:02 +0000 UTC
God… ABU’s were terrible. Especially as an aircraft mechanic. They would just turn black oh and the boots too…
Then when I got OCPs (roughly 2014 due to being in AFSOC) the crotch would rip out so often… I had one trip where the whole inside of my inner thigh was “repaired” with about 7 of the little iron on patches.
The OCPs were so comfortable but, as an aircraft mechanic they would tear so easily and again just turn black or dark brown from all the various aircraft fluids…
Another use of a reflective belt… it doubles as a tool belt, headset carrier, and rag carrier.
When I had an office job at HQ… I thought we should wear our dress uniform. It looks more professional plus it gives me a reason to stay in shape since they’re so damn expensive to buy and alter.
But now I’m moving to aircrew, so I’m excited for a two piece flight suit… the single piece flight suits are not appealing to me but I will admit they look damn sexy with the leather jackets.
I_like_planes_and_cities
2024-06-09 18:48:30 +0000 UTC
L
.nf
Seymour Wynn
2024-06-09 18:26:50 +0000 UTC
I would like to support Devon's idea of podcasters running across the boarder carrying their Yeti mic and a sound board full of nostalgic pop culture drops. The barest essentials.
LoLDrood
2024-06-09 18:22:03 +0000 UTC
About the Navy camo. I live in a town with a significant navel presence. I got in to discussion with a sailor about how dumb have a camo uniform is. I said I want.sailors to dress like sailors.
Doug King
2024-06-09 18:20:54 +0000 UTC
I think Ian is much more likely to sell you a Rhodesian Uzi than Karl with a K given their split over politics
John Her
2024-06-09 18:09:11 +0000 UTC
Pittsburgh also has cemetery deer, but you can’t hunt those ones.
Peter Flynn
2024-06-09 17:47:22 +0000 UTC
This is Mr Liam Anderson, he is demonstrating how not to be seen
Spectre444
2024-06-09 17:39:27 +0000 UTC
miss Liam but hope he has a great time, glad you guys can take time off from time to time
Radale the clown
2024-06-09 17:35:19 +0000 UTC
babe wake up new bonus episode dropped
Joe Grossblatt
2024-06-09 17:32:54 +0000 UTC
Camo 98%
Charlie Lightning
2024-06-09 17:12:37 +0000 UTC
Watching this on a ferry
ThaliaGrix
2024-06-09 17:03:25 +0000 UTC
Are you actually sure Liam was on vacation and not just using the best camo?
David Eltzroth
2024-06-09 16:59:14 +0000 UTC
I do look like Daniel Craig yes, I'm not listening to this while doing laundry
Victoria Mailer-Hiley
2024-06-09 16:26:12 +0000 UTC
Liam in Valhalla again
Kelvin
2024-06-09 16:18:34 +0000 UTC
Yay Liam nonetheless
Benoit Bvg
2024-06-09 16:15:34 +0000 UTC
20K. Congratulations!
Fauxpinky
2024-06-09 16:10:46 +0000 UTC
Woo!
Evan Jaworski
2024-06-09 16:04:42 +0000 UTC