photography

A note for Devon re: Car Motion Blur. In May 1984, someone at Railfan & Railroad Magazine worked out a blur table for shooting trains, with speeds up to 120 MPH and shutter speeds from 1 sec to 1/4000. The only one I remember is 60 MPH at 1/500 = 2.11 inches. That's the width of a handrail on American diesel locomotives. The other amounts of blur can easily be calculated in the brain, in the field, same as F stops vs. shutter speed. You can also use this to figure out how much you want the drivers to blur in pan shots of steam engines, if you know the driver diameter. Ex.: N&W 611 at 40 MPH. Drivers = 70". Close enough to 6'. Circumference = 18'. 40 MPH = 60 feet/sec. = 3.3 RPS. 1/5 rev. blur = 1/15 sec. Short enough to still get a sharp engine, but not so long that the rods turn to fog. Cheers, mate, and thank you for all that you do. And mad respect for coating ambrotypes.

Emily Adams

Thank you for this episode, listening it jogged me into getting back into photography after a 7 year gap, and it has been a great way to connect with my grandfather (in his 90s!) as he was quite the photography nerd in his younger years.

yung_beaujolais

I, like Justin, also use my phone to primarily take photos of trains

Kyle Lempinen

1:04:20 Agfacolor Neu Process = Hepatitis C-41

Emily Adams

Wait, I also had an all-black Das Keyboard! Is this gonna be the next trans meme joke, we all had no-letters all-black keyboards?

Michaela Pereckas

I’m getting the spinning wheel. I even updated the app

please fix the link 🥺😥

Ted(dy)

Common lads I’m on another 7 day rotation I need that sweet sweet background noise with slides

Liam just said he will, but he's at a bar lol

Christopher Edward

Fix the link.

Peter Hall

nsfwyoutube works every now and then, sometimes google changes how age restriction works and it's down until a new workaround is found. When you run into an age restricted video it's worth trying, but doesn't always work.

Minna Ihalainen

if you made an rss feed for bonus episodes then people could consume them like a podcast, rather than logging into patreon every month to get a broken youtube link

qjkx

I said that specifically as a response to Alice talking about Technology Connections in the episode. Liam would need to rein it in but I think it could be very interesting together

David Lee

thats a great YT channel but i don't know how well Alec would vibe with this show's deeply-ingrained misanthropy

Karl Childers

Honestly, im so annoyed I might cancel even though I love you guys

Sasha Oaks

I fucking hate YouTube. That’s why I pay for patreon. I’m super annoyed by the stupid age restriction bullshit

Sasha Oaks

Video broken for me too.

TheOtherJohn

will you be posting the audio version of this anytime soon?

Teratosapphic

How many underage fans are paying for patreon? 🤔

Sasha Oaks

I assume so. This is the first age restricted video I cared enough about watching to find a workaround for.

Omg you're the best! Does this work with other videos too?!

Hot available girl in your area

You're my hero <3

Tau

https://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watchmore?v=MRw8EwAM_ZU

I’m sorry to say that mine is not loading

If you’re using the app and it’s not working. Open patreon.com in your browser and you can reach the youtube link from there. (Age restricted as mentioned 🙄)

YUB NUB

Says it's age restricted and only available on YT

Jasmine Matthews

Seriously now I want Alice & Devon's photography podcast, because my relationship isn't parasocial enough. Also to send them down the astrophotography rabbit hole.

DB

Yep me too

YUB NUB

Yep. Won’t play for me at all.

Is anyone else having issues playing the video on the patreon app?

Vix_Cep

You guys really need to have Alec on as a guest for something!! A technology connections / WTYP crossover is the thing I didn't know how much I wanted until Alice plugged him

David Lee

I'd love to watch it, but I'm not giving Google my ID or credit card. So I guess no episode for me...

Tau

On a completely unrelated note, I just realized one of the things that looks so wrong about J. J. Abrams' USS Enterprise: It looks like it was designed by Santiago Calatrava.

Diego

No idea if I'm allowed to post links but I watched this video recently and it is in very good company with this podcast ep if anyone finished this ep and wants more historical film content with big gay vibes. I don't want to spoil the twists and turns of the story so I won't say too much more, but I'd really recommend checking it out for anyone who likes this topic. Lily Alexandre: "Cinema's First Kiss Was Between Two Women" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLmgMjkOv7Q

Emily V. Smith

Darn you Alice and Devon, you've both inspired me to dig out my 12 year old T3i and start shooting photos again

Unfortunately there’s some countries with uncommonly annoying internet laws… I am in a similar position like Boya. I’m in South Korea for a few months and they will not let me watch this video or any age restricted content without confirming my identity through a Korean phone number that is connected to an ID. I was so excited for this episode since photography is my biggest hobby. Guess I’ll have to wait a few months or fall for some silly NordVPN or whatever ad.

Yeah that whole cut came out of nowhere. Just raises more questions.

TpzBlau

You are an angel thank you

Michael Oswell

did we ever get an answer to liam's question @ 49:25 ?

hell

Really? Cant just make a youtube account and turn restrictions off? I haven't ever sent google anything. I have had a youtube account since 2007 so maybe grandfathered in or something.

Nicholas

lmao i shoplifted an old polaroid af 660 and fuck that thing is so much fun i love it

I literally cannot watch this without verifying my age, and to do that I'd either need a credit card (wich I do not have), send Google a picture of a drivers license (also do not have) or a picture of my pasport. fuck this

Alice, professional photojournalist here. Absolutely loved the episode but I wanted to touch on your Leica FOMO. I know you mainly shoot film but if you want an affordable, kick ass everyday digital rangefinder, get the Fuji X100F. I have the big fuck-off Nikon DSLRs for work but my everyday camera is that little Fuji and it’s my favorite camera. Also, on your note about Capa and your philosophy, that’s mine too. While I haven’t been to war I have covered riots, police standoffs, wild fires and the 2016 campaign in the US. I would shoot like 1500 frames between my two cameras each day of the political conventions. Capa’s f/8 and be there reminded me of greg marinovich’s book “The Bang Bang Club” about covering the end of apartheid in South Africa. He talks about a photo that won him a Pulitzer and all he repeated to himself as he ran was “f/5.6, f/5.6” and ran through a whole roll. I won’t describe the photo because it is pretty brutal but google his name and Pulitzer and you’ll find it. If you haven’t read it, I recommend it. Also look into James Nachtwey and Tim Hetherington. Two amazing war photographers who shot interesting perspectives on conflict. Nachtwey is still working and spent at least some time in Ukraine and Hetherington was killed in Libya. Hetherington’s photo book “Infidel” is chilling.

Michael Cali

I just got into photography like a week ago 🫠

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRw8EwAM_ZU

BonusWavePilot

Could someone share the YouTube link in the comments please? Between this and twitter imploding I’m running out of things to do

Michael Oswell

Link is still not working. I need my fix 😁

Jasmin Redzepagic

https://flic.kr/p/2kWvQ2c

Elder Dog

I work with photo negatives as part of my work so I thought would post a link to one of the more interesting negatives that we have in our collection.

Elder Dog

Ay yo the part 10 minutes in "they didn't know how to pose yet" he was propped with his arm against something and his head against his arm to be able to remain still for the incredibly long exposure, otherwise you are blurry face..

Mia McCaulley

youtube-dl or yt-dlp will probably work

Adam Baxter

hey this wont let me watch on the page, unless i go to YT and sign in. that feels fucked. got any alternate crap that's usable? I've avoided signing up with that company so far, I'd like to keep up the streak.

doiabsolutelyhavetohaveoneofthese

Enjoyed Devon going "RIP but I'm built different" about TLRs, though to be fair Devon is built different.

Brian Danger Hicks

Sir this is a Wendy's

Jim

Don't remember asking

There’s plenty of things that are legal that shouldn’t be. Just because taking pictures of people in public without consent is legal isn’t a good argument for doing it. I thought it was a uniquely American trait to spitefully use legal justifications as an excuse for discourtesy. If I ask you to delete a public picture of me and you don’t, are you going to go home and feel good about the art you made? If you want to make art, go make art with willing subjects. At least let them know you took a photo of them and if they ask you to delete it, respect that. I don’t see how taking a picture of me, some rando, is similar to having the right to photograph police or public figures. Just like there’s a distinction between public and private figures in defamation cases, there should be something similar when taking pictures of people.

Nathaniel Gordon

What up with the link this time ?

Hmmm the link doesn’t seem to work

Jim Heeren

Why would they go through the trouble to make a work around for a couple people? Suck it up man. It's a youtube podcast so deal with it.

M Mmd

Unfortunately I cannot play it either and Youtube requires an account, which I don't have (or want). Can you please do a workaround for us anti-google folks? Thanks!

As an amateur photographer, I am excited to be torn to shreds by the gang.

I took Photography in college, 1999, had to buy a manual camera, the little canister for developing film, learned all the darkroom protocols, fun times. By 2006, I was on vacation in Puerto Rico and made friends with a young woman (from Philadelphia, the only person I've ever met from Philadelphia) a professional photographer, who told me she had never set foot in a darkroom. Things change quickly.

Erin Kristina

Okay this is a big special interest for me and I know a couple Philly-specific photo collections that might be of interest. I think about digitization a lot. John Frank Keith does posed photography of mostly working class folks in south Philly in the 1920s. -- https://digital.librarycompany.org/islandora/object/Islandora%3AKEI01 Progress photography of the el, mostly 1916 -- https://digital.librarycompany.org/islandora/search/dc.subject:%22Frankford%20Elevated%20Railway.%22?cp=islandora:root Aero Service Corp photos are mostly 1920s aerial views of Philly and nearby. Like, a dude hanging out of a plane. Lots of these are nitrate negatives, so they're a whole process to actually pull and digitize safely -- https://digital.librarycompany.org/islandora/object/Islandora%3AAERO1

Planxty

No way am I signing into Google. I don't do that.

Finished! This was fantastic, thank you!

Steven Bartoo

I feel kinda emotional when I think about the ordinary people who went get their daguerreotypes taken. You can actually see the person there and just thinking about them as human beings and all the emotions and desires and wants that go on in each of us really impacts me.

Cleo

Sigh. The Internet gods have decided to give me the spinning circle of doom on my phone and my tablet. What do I have to sacrifice? I have discovered that once again the age-restricted warning is stopping me from seeing it. Or at least it tried. I had to copy the link into the web browser, log into Patreon, stay in the web page, then the play button would work. Holy cats.

Carina Freeman

love the hearing competing photography philosophies of Alice and Dev. I definitely lean towards the 'doing the maths' side of photography, but seeing Alice's photo output on twitter has really encouraged me to be bravery in my own photos

Goddamn is this great - I'm only up to the WWI "chemist's war" part - my introduction to WWI was as a child going through my grandmothers 200 card Keystone View stereograph photos of it and they are.. insane. if you ever have the opportunity to see them in the viewer, in 3d, do so.

Steven Bartoo

Devon, 2hrs 45 min long video and you didn't grown this time!🙂

God damn you big fucking nerds. This shit is so my jam. I just lugged a TLR around Europe and have a dozen rolls of 120 to develop

skinflautist

Oh, I used to do photography as a hobby. Surely I will enjoy everything I'm about to hear and won't be depressed by it in any way.

Ploughshares after hospital this morn, Photography after my dance in the evening, truly the augeries favour me today. Thanks.

Athena Von Tharsis

The photo shit I miss the most is when fuji packfilm was still affordable, like fp3000 and fp100c. That was the 60's Polaroid film, I even had an RB67 with a packfilm back. I took dozens of pictures with all manner of old polaroid, and they look so cool. Alas, all gone today. Fuji stopped making that film in 2016 (?) and it went from $20 a pack to over $100 a pack today. I can't bring myself to spend that kind of cash for expired film, because in my experience it almost never works.

Jason Young