Chapter 1060 - Question(s) Of Trust
Added 2025-01-23 12:14:03 +0000 UTC“Are you sure your report is accurate?” Miranda asked as she flew alongside Kindroth and Lillian with their escort in tow. “While I wouldn’t classify this area as well-explored, I find it difficult to believe our scouts would have missed a hidden dungeon.”
“Yeah, tell me about it, I was also surprised,” Kindroth answered, shaking his head. “I was definitely baffled when I stumbled upon it. It was hidden in the valley due to a naturally formed formation creating illusions, which was definitely how everyone missed it. Also, while I haven’t entered the dungeon yet, from the name alone, I believe it’s also one filled with illusions.”
“Still,” Miranda insisted with a suspicious tone. “Dungeon entrances tend not to be that easily missed.”
“The entrance itself is just a tree right in the center of the valley,” Kindroth continued. “Again, I only noticed it because of the formation and the movement of mana. The tree was right there in the middle, and I just had to go inspect it. That’s when the system notification popped up.”
“Hm,” Miranda said, in thought for a moment. “Were there signs of others having entered it before?”
“I didn’t really look, but... wait, you’re thinking that...?”
“Yeah, it’s entirely possible someone has found it before and merely never disclosed it to anyone. That way, they could not only get the Pioneer title but didn’t have to share anything with anyone else. Perhaps they are even considering selling the information about the dungeon. That, or any party who has found it and entered simply never returned.”
“Does sound possible, even if the level requirement to enter is only 280,” the elf commented.
“If it’s anything like the Undergrowth with quite a wide level scale, coupled with illusion... certainly doesn’t sound like a pleasant place,” Lillian chimed in, getting nods from not only Miranda and Kindroth but a few of their escorts.
“It should be just up ahead,” Kindroth said after a little while. “If you feel for it carefully, you may even be able to detect the subtle mana of the natural formation from here.”
Miranda looked to focus for a brief while before nodding. “True, I do feel some faint echoes of mana. Does have a signature similar to a concealment formation.”
“Right, makes sense,” Kindroth nodded. “I wouldn’t really be able to tell. Not an expert in formations and all that.”
“I’m well aware,” Miranda simply said, their group getting closer and closer until soon the deep valley Kindroth was leading them toward came into view.
As he said, there truly was just a single tree sitting in the middle of it, with only grass in all directions around it. Kindroth directed them down as Miranda and her entire escort group landed in front of the tree.
She went forth to inspect it, and that’s when Miranda frowned. “This is no dunge-“
Right then, pillars of light shot into the air from the mountains on all sides. A web of disruptive magic enveloped the entire valley, and Miranda looked taken aback as she stumbled away from everyone, only Lillian staying by her side.
The different elites from Haven also looked around as auras erupted from all around them. They were completely and utterly surrounded, the formation that had been activated even partly locking down space alongside most of Miranda’s magic getting severely weakened.
Right then, one of Miranda’s very own escorts even jumped away from all the other elites and made distance, his former comrades staring after him as he retreated toward the enemy forces who greeted him like an old friend coming home.
Right then, a singular aura more powerful than the others revealed itself as the enemy leader stepped forth. Someone Miranda instantly recognized as her eyes opened wide in surprise and horror.
“King Iludar.”
“Witch of Haven,” the man spoke with a confident smile. “I hope you like the place chosen to be your grave.”
--
When Jake felt that the summoned god possessed a Bloodline, his initial reaction was that the Holy Church had seriously fucked up. They had to know Jake wasn’t a fan of Ell’Hakan, in large part due to his Bloodline, so for them to send someone else with one focused on mental manipulation was just bonkers.
However, that wasn’t what happened. The Lodestar Matron’s Bloodline was well known in the multiverse and a large aspect of how she’d reached her current position. It wasn’t one about mental manipulation or even one that affected the minds of people at all. In fact, it did something a lot of people wanted to be done to them.
It was so much more valuable than merely mental manipulation as it had the absolutely outrageous passive effect of increasing all experience and even Records gained for all those who had bathed in her presence. No, it didn’t require them to stay within the presence, just the mere fact they had ever once in their lives been within her presence while also being aware it was her doing it, they would be affected by the Bloodline... with stipulations, of course.
It only worked for those who followed her. Not in that they had to be loyal to her but that they had to look up to her and view her as, at the very least, some kind of spiritual guide. Hence the name Lodestar. She was a guiding star, hanging in the sky above all those who had been blessed by her presence, shining down a faint light helping illuminate their Path.
From what Jake knew, the effect of the Bloodline was only marginal for regular people, with the true effects coming to those who directly followed her Path or had her as their Patron. Still, any kind of effect making progress faster was humongous. Even just a 1% increase in people managing to reach C-grade, because they had once in their life experienced her presence, would result in a fuckload more C-grades for the Holy Church.
For support-type Bloodlines, the Lodestar Bloodline, which Jake assumed it was called, was definitely toward the very top.
Now, what did all this mean for Jake? Well, to put it bluntly, fuck-all. The Bloodline had no effect on Jake as he didn’t meet the requirements to be affected by it. He didn’t view the Lodestar Matron as some superior being at all, and he most certainly didn’t follow her Path.
Knowing that she was actually a significant figure in the Holy Church did bring up a lot of questions, though. Ones he quite frankly didn’t even bother asking, but her presence did at least mean the Holy Church was serious when it came to reaching a peaceful compromise.
That, or they were trying to use a god to intimidate Jake and make him back down. The following few minutes would let him know which was which.
“A pleasure to meet you, Lodestar Matron,” Jake said with a nod. “I’ve heard much about you.”
The god was silent for a few moments as she smiled, the movements of her face pretty damn hard to really tell due to the low-quality projection that was used.
“Truly peculiar. You’re entirely untouched by my Bloodline; I cannot even feel you’re in its presence. Do allow me to clarify, while my Bloodline does not allow me any insight into those touched by it, I am at the very least able to distinguish those it affects and those it doesn’t. For you to remain untouched even after knowing who I am... either your faith in the Malefic One has entirely warped your view of gods, or you innately simply cannot view yourself as lesser to one. I presume the latter,” the Lodestar Matron spoke quite frankly and honestly, which did surprise Jake a bit.
He chose not to confirm or deny either of her theories as he instead focused on the topic at hand.
“I have been told I’m quite an oddball more than once,” Jake said with a shrug. “And I will admit I’m surprised you have come to speak with me directly. As things stand, I have a hard time seeing what your presence will change. Unless you are here to authorize them to give me that which is rightfully mine, what do we have to discuss?”
Jake’s demeanor once more earned him a lot of angry glares from behind. While those around him had begun to accept his attitude toward gods by now, these members of the Holy Church sure weren’t very accepting.
Surprisingly, the goddess didn’t seem to care much as she spoke.
“A Bloodline is a tool. You and I are both fully aware of that. Yet you appear to only view the Usurper’s as a weapon. You only see the negative aspects of it and the dangers. I will not argue against its danger, you and many others of your galaxy have experienced it first-hand at the hands of Ell’Hakan. Because of that, I understand your apprehension to allow its continued existence,” the Lodestar Matron spoke, and from the sounds of it, her plan wasn’t to intimidate but actually convince Jake.
“Instead of thinking of the dangers it poses, I want you to imagine the boons it can bring. To understand and affect the emotions of others could bring far more good than you can even imagine. People can be raised out of despair, find hope and new meaning even when life appears pointless, or get confidence when they have the skill but not the mindset. It can help make people their best selves. Healing magic can heal both the body and even the soul to some extent... but there is no skill that can heal the heart. This Bloodline can.”
What she was saying reminded Jake a bit about when the Viper had theorized Ell’Hakan ending up with the Dao Sect. Jake didn’t argue that the Bloodline potentially, theoretically, could do a lot of good, but his problem was that he seriously doubted it would be used for the betterment of the multiverse.
At most it would be used for the betterment of the Holy Church, and Jake wasn’t sure that was something he wanted.
“Never once did I argue it couldn’t do any good. However, from all I’ve seen until now, it’s a goddamn disaster in the wrong hands,” Jake said, crossing his arms. “Besides, it’s a moot point in the first place. This isn’t about whether Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline is good or bad but about you involving yourself directly in my hunt to steal the Truesoul without permission.”
“We are both aware this has far more to do with your dislike for his Bloodline than merely your desire to make your hunt complete. You already fully won. Ell’Hakan is dead, the Celestial Child no more. All that remains is mere remnants that will never be a threat to you, and neither will what can be brought back from his Truesoul. Not to you or anyone. We can make sure of that.”
“I do despise his Bloodline; you are right on that, but that still doesn’t change the fundamental facts of what happened,” Jake kept insisting.
“You’re right. The Truesoul is rightfully yours. That’s why we are even having this discussion in the first place. We at the Holy Church do want to make you whole, but for that to happen, there needs to be room for negotiation. Suppose you refuse to budge even the slightest in every aspect, then you are right that this is pointless, but allow me to give you an offer at least,” the Lodestar Matron spoke, her entire demeanor continuing to surprise Jake simply by how reasonable she was being despite Jake clearly not being the most receptive.
“I understand that you have your Path, but we also have ours. You can have his Truesoul, but not now. I’m not asking for you to give it to us, but merely borrow it for a time. Allow us to resurrect what remains of the Usurper and have him fulfill his oath to us, after which he is yours to do with what you want once more. Or, if it’s easier for you, we can dispose of him in your stead,” the Lodestar Matron spoke in an emotionless voice.
“Your assessment that the Usurper’s use of the Bloodline was reckless and dangerous was entirely accurate. That’s why anyone with it needs direction from birth. Guidance. People who can understand it and control how it’s used. Chances also are that any offspring of the Bloodline Patriarch will be weaker than the Usurper, lessening the threat level. I am aware this will temporarily delay the full completion of your hunt, but the fate of Ell’Hakan will remain sealed, the circumstances of his final end still in your hands.”
Jake really had to do a double-take of what the Lodestar Matron had said to make sure he hadn’t heard wrong, but nope. Her offer was... fuck, it was cold as ice. She effectively offered to resurrect Ell’Hakan for only a brief period and have him “fulfill his oath” of making a few kids before the Church would happily ship off the expecting father straight to Jake for slaughter. Or, you know, just off him themselves at Jake’s behest. They effectively told him that they would lease Ell’Hakan from Jake for a while without contesting his life belonged to Jake.
It wasn’t even an option Jake had considered for a moment, and the mere fact she offered it really put things into perspective. The Holy Church was known as a “force for good” in the eyes of many, and it did have a general philosophy of maximizing the happiness of as many people as possible.
All it took was the sacrifice of the few. Individual mortals didn’t matter. They were just resources. The Holy Church was like a company, caring about optimizing cash flow and increasing profits while limiting losses, but they truthfully couldn’t and didn’t care about every cent leaving their accounts. Sometimes, there were simply expenses, and from the sounds of it, Ell’Hakan was a resource they would happily write off when he was done fulfilling his purpose.
Again, really fucking cold. Yet Jake couldn’t help but be interested in what more the Holy Church was offering.
“Let’s say I am in the slightest open to that idea; why would I possibly agree and take such a risk? What are you offering?” Jake questioned, once more just ignoring the glares burning into the back of his head from the Holy Church members present. They were probably mad that Jake wasn’t crying tears of joy because a god was actually negotiating with him.
“Firstly, the Holy Church will fully pull out of the Milky Way Galaxy under terms and conditions set by you. Secondly, we will naturally offer material goods to a level that will satisfy you while at the same time remaining reasonable. These materials can include resources exclusive to the Holy Church if you so desire. Thirdly, you will naturally have the gratitude of the Holy Church, and we can all walk away here today knowing that despite our differences, compromise can always be reached and a future without conflict is possible,” the Lodestar Matron said.
“I shall personally swear upon everything that has been offered today. I will even add that for the next ten thousand years, not a single descendant of the Usurper will be allowed outside of Holy Church territory.”
Jake had to admit, she was clearly serious in these negotiations. He also knew how hard it was for the Church to offer anything Jake would actually want. Giving him money was pointless, so what was offered was close to all they could offer. Materials usually exclusive to the Holy Church were also very valuable, primarily due to their exclusivity, and if Jake took this offer, the conflict in the Milky Way could end right there and now.
With a single nod of approval or just one word, Jake could put a stop to everything.
However... the price wasn’t small. Jake despised Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline and what it was capable of doing. He wanted it gone from the multiverse. Agreeing today would allow its continued existence. Sure, it would be under the control and supervision of the Holy Church, and Jake did trust that the Holy Church would have that shit on lock and could effectively control everyone with the Bloodline. That wasn’t the problem.
Truthfully, Jake had come to the Holy Church only with the intention of putting up the front of wanting to actually negotiate. He just wanted to at least have the Church be the aggressor, giving him just cause to start what was bound to be a slaughter.
The Church had obviously also expected this as a likely outcome based on the thousands of elites all around him in the empty military installation. They were fully ready to fight should negotiations break down, but with everything he’d seen so far, their ideal outcome was definitely one where no fighting had to happen.
In the end, the deciding factor for what his answer would be probably came down to one simple matter:
Could Jake really trust the Holy Church with Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline? Could he truly live with the knowledge it was still out there, even if Ell’Hakan was gone?
It wasn’t easy, but ultimately, after considering everything carefully, Jake knew his answer...
Comments
I can entirely see him going with either or.
Cerby 201
2025-03-25 17:24:42 +0000 UTCTftc
Dave
2025-03-21 10:11:07 +0000 UTCTyftc
Trumangolorian
2025-02-22 19:27:11 +0000 UTCHe is not the chosen of the "hypocritical" viper either. It is fine if he does bad stuff. I have no complaints. But it is bullshit when he starts complaining about other people doing bad stuff.
Cicero.A
2025-02-04 19:49:04 +0000 UTCHe's known as the Chosen of the "malefic" viper. Not the chosen of the "Holy" Mother. So not shot
vio
2025-02-04 18:44:57 +0000 UTCWait, why is Jake complaining about the coldness of the matron's deal. Didn't Jake kill thousands if not millions just to make Elhakan weaker and draw him out? Seems hypocritical to me.
Cicero.A
2025-02-02 23:56:17 +0000 UTC“Fuck no” The Doa Sect maybe, but definitely not the Holy Church.
Greedsmith
2025-02-02 18:31:48 +0000 UTCI really want Miranda to send him a message saying she was attacked and him using that as an excuse. That way he would loose nothing and maybe even gain something for not exterminating the church and the augur outright
Phil Ritter
2025-02-02 13:26:42 +0000 UTCI'd love that
Chloe
2025-01-27 02:34:01 +0000 UTCNice reference
Chloe
2025-01-27 02:32:15 +0000 UTCThankies
Phasmatic7
2025-01-26 02:10:35 +0000 UTCNo, Villy already said bloodline and true soul are 1. If they can nurse his true soul back to health and give it a body it should be doable.
Lunatic Haven
2025-01-25 12:08:22 +0000 UTCI think they'd be okay on using what's left of El'Hakan but they want to use the children too. I imagine that would cross out of 'technically the rules' and into blatantly against them.
Stuart Thwaites
2025-01-24 21:17:24 +0000 UTCOnce per business day at around 13:15 UTC I think
Little Silly
2025-01-24 15:19:57 +0000 UTC5 cliffhangers per week, Monday to Friday, around the same time
Flurry
2025-01-24 13:52:33 +0000 UTC5 times per week, Monday to Friday, around the same time
Miotara
2025-01-24 12:51:31 +0000 UTCWhat’s the release schedule for Pirmal hunter I binged and then signed up on Patreon and this cliffhanger is pain
Fast Lance
2025-01-24 12:20:10 +0000 UTCThat would be craaaazy. But wouldn’t Jake be able to feel if the bloodline is in that object? And wouldn’t the goddess or any other bloodline holders be able to tell if EH’s true soul contains the bloodline?
Asher Mack
2025-01-24 10:54:16 +0000 UTCI think beasts or monsters use Alpha or something along that line in place of Elite.
Indevan Jones
2025-01-24 10:23:33 +0000 UTCYeah, you know. The restrictions, limitations of inheritance, and the drawbacks—I think it's all true the way you describe it.
Baged
2025-01-24 09:35:38 +0000 UTC@Jeff McCulley that is even more stupid, The church will not start a war with the malefic viper to protect him especially not after his recent display of strength so trying to use them as a shield when his importance is infinitely less than Jake is foolishness on a cosmic scale. Killing Miranda is an affront to the Order on 2 accounts, for one Miranda is the aide to Chosen of the Malefic Viper and is also a notable member of the verdant lagoon, even if she wasn't connected to the order in such a major way via Jake and the lagoon she is important to Jake on a personal level. And Jake wouldn't hesitate to go scorched earth if he is angry enough and considering how much the Viper did the same I doubt he would not support Jakes revenge. Furthermore simply from a logical perspective there is infinitely more to gain by appeasing Jake with Ludar's head, let's not even try and compare their status but even on an individual level there is no logic in expecting protection. On a cosmic scale Ludar is nothing more than a talented C-grade and many such talents have died over the eras, meanwhile in all that exists Jake in many ways is completely and totally unique in his capabilities as Harbinger of Primeval Origins.
Daniel is ŁØNE
2025-01-24 09:18:00 +0000 UTCMiranda getting attacked at the mangrove was a continuation of Jakes allies getting attacked.
Stuart Thwaites
2025-01-24 07:55:44 +0000 UTCIt’s building context. It’s building characters and world building. It’s building the bases for the next several story arcs. It’s something Zogarth do often, and it’s something every good story do, the building up to the climax. Without this « boring stuff », I can assure you, PH wouldn’t be a third as exciting as it is.
Lizy Flore
2025-01-24 07:48:19 +0000 UTCHonestly, I think a smaller faction wouldn't get away with it, but because they're the holy church
fruit dragon
2025-01-24 05:20:32 +0000 UTCFix
Zogarth
2025-01-24 03:12:04 +0000 UTCEveryone inside and outside of the story always knew it was going to be a emphatic no. Just a waste of three chapters it's not even building tension
Steven Crowe
2025-01-24 02:58:37 +0000 UTCLol. The Bloodline part?
NovaZero
2025-01-24 01:58:59 +0000 UTCI don't think EH's soul contains the bloodline anymore. I think the bloodline has been dropped on the kill into that heart that Jake looted.
Damascus
2025-01-24 01:42:34 +0000 UTCI'm guessing she knows she has a traitor among the elites, especially if he has been planted on the planet for a long time. The location for the ambush is picked by the elf, so she might already have something buried under the ground, making her feel right at home at the site. Regarding the bloodline stuff, I think you are right on target. The True Soul part? We can only imagine! :-)
Baged
2025-01-24 00:56:31 +0000 UTCMan, rereading this chapter after reading Tonken/Nature Attendant’s side story and the bloodline side story hits different…Bloodlines are a curse and a blessing. Ell’Hakan’s made him aware of and able to manipulate emotions, so it would have been impossible to lie to him to some degree. That alone can really fuck up a person, but the power to manipulate emotions makes it hard to imagine how descendants with it could end up in anyway helpful to the greater good. The church could, but letting anyone with it run free could quickly become a disaster. The bloodline works a bit like a plague, and it can create false gods which appear to be incredibly unstable. Jake’s own bloodline is also rather frightening, but mainly in its drawbacks to potential inheritors of it. As the patriarch, Jake seems to have extra control over it though. Similar to the side story bloodline’s ever increasing mana, Jake’s perception keeps increasing beyond what he can comprehend. Luckily it seems to restrain itself to protect Jake, but we don’t know how inherent that will be to others having it…hopefully that is down to improved instincts and will work the same for most. Then the issue is the emotionality of instincts and lack of logic. Besides all of that is the ‘starting point’ issue of not yet knowing what is or if Jake even has a starting grade and how that will affect him having kids. This Lodestar Matron’s bloodline seems safe and simple…but what about followers who go against their leader’s wishes? Couldn’t it make perfect Usurpers? It would be difficult for her to survive or even progress if she were a fighter. Anyway, I wanna see Jake pull out Ell’Hakan’s heart and it stealing his true soul or something, but he probably forgot about it or I forgot he gave it to someone. Can someone explain to me why people think Kindroth is suicidal and won’t side with Jake? Kindroth previously mentioned how scary the Sword Saint is, I don’t see him dipping unless he believes Sword Saint is dead or an enemy of Jake.
Little Silly
2025-01-24 00:22:30 +0000 UTCShe needs access to the pylon tho so them baiting her out would prevent that I would assume
D3monEmper0r
2025-01-23 23:57:03 +0000 UTCNot really, Jake didn't get on that time where the United city alliance attacked Miranda on her way to the mangrove swamp so the warning if there is one would appear if she's killed I guess...
D3monEmper0r
2025-01-23 23:50:13 +0000 UTCI agree except that the church people are blinded by being part of what they think is the most powerful faction. not taking the deal and making another "strong statement" about not ducking with him is what I think he'll do.
brjenness
2025-01-23 23:41:40 +0000 UTCyeah, if the god says anything along the lines of "hurry up and agree or you'll be sorry." negotiations are over and Jake's on the horn to villy after explaining to the church what is really going down on earth and getting his loot back.
brjenness
2025-01-23 23:32:01 +0000 UTCThe point is the ludar sees killing Miranda as his only option to survive. It's not about smart its about trying to please the church enough they will protect him from Jake. Little does he know they will not protect him from Jake
Paperback Hail6
2025-01-23 23:06:39 +0000 UTCI think Miranda knows who’s playing both sides because of William. I’m expecting a big trap that wipes out all the enemies. Hopefully she does it with style. I like the idea of it raining exploding frogs that insult your hairstyle.
KenTX325
2025-01-23 23:06:02 +0000 UTCAlso Miranda should know thousands of people teleporting to the planet using the official teleporter. no way she missed that. Only reason Jake wasn't spotted was cuz he used the non-system teleporter made by Arnold. Nah she got this. lol
Gman
2025-01-23 23:04:42 +0000 UTCProjection of god. I don't think she can do much if anything at all. System wouldn't allow that.
Gman
2025-01-23 22:59:11 +0000 UTCI think Kindroth is assuming the Churchnis about to eliminate Jake as well. After all, they brought in an actual god, and he’s just standing there.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 22:19:29 +0000 UTCEasy NO haha
Roy Boy Meyer
2025-01-23 22:17:14 +0000 UTCHe doesn’t even u sets tabs the point of it. Which suggests the Church is setting him and his posse up to be eliminated.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 22:16:45 +0000 UTCExactly, it's a promise that means nothing
AetherBoye
2025-01-23 22:14:23 +0000 UTCYeah and there was definitely a yeah nah in there if I remember right only it was a "Yeah. No."
NovaZero
2025-01-23 22:13:42 +0000 UTCwhat even is king Uldar's play here? regardless of what happens even if he does manage to in any way take out the few elites of earth while jake is gone, what happens when he along with every other earth powerhouse like Carmen, Sword Saint, Arnold, Jakes Brother etc, decide to pull up for a revenge match. This plan seems stupid no matter how you look at it, even in the event of success the best he can hope for would be a slightly extended life, and lets be honest the second he gets even slightly isolated with jake he is dead, if jake could go against a juiced up cheeto, this so called king has no chance.
Daniel is ŁØNE
2025-01-23 22:08:06 +0000 UTCJake is actually quite a bit stronger than most think, remember he fought a juiced up second place with the inheritance of a GOD and not even a weak one either, and won fairly comfortably until bloodline bullshit kicked in and even then he survived that battle to the end despite losing home field advantage.
Daniel is ŁØNE
2025-01-23 21:58:39 +0000 UTCOoooh good idea! Use all them Churchies and have them be fuel for the frosty wyrm as icicles. They get to pray AND fuel the wyrm!
NovaZero
2025-01-23 21:58:01 +0000 UTCLmao 100%. I thought the zog was Australian at first because he throws in words like ‘reckon’ and ‘mate’ very frequently
Asher Mack
2025-01-23 21:57:12 +0000 UTCI can imagine him saying yes for the right terms. I don’t expect it, but I can see it happening. If he gets a divine promise that the bloodline will be developed so it is only used to read emotions and not manipulate them, for example.
Arieh Sochaczevski
2025-01-23 21:57:09 +0000 UTCMy thoughts exactly they'll just keep expanding and keep the brainwasher safe in church territory. Maybe even have people visit them to get "guidance" so he can influence people by having them travel to them.
TyranT-Rex
2025-01-23 21:56:22 +0000 UTCIf Jake was Australian: "Yeah nah. It's my hunt, cunt."
NovaZero
2025-01-23 21:55:11 +0000 UTCAlso, there is nothing saying the holy church won't keep expanding their territory for the next 10k years. So they could spread their influence in all other galaxies in the 93' d universe.
TyranT-Rex
2025-01-23 21:51:35 +0000 UTCTargeting the city leader would be to contest the pylon tho.
AfroMocha
2025-01-23 21:47:05 +0000 UTCThe Holy Church has offerred the carrot. Jake refuses saying "I cant trust you", then the god offers the stick of his home planet being under attack.... then Jake moves to "aggressive negotiations" tactics. 😆
Tarl Reynoso
2025-01-23 21:27:16 +0000 UTCMaking a whole family of the mule from Foundation... Great idea....
David Proctor
2025-01-23 20:56:43 +0000 UTCKindroth has personally witnessed Jake's power. He's too smart to piss off the strongest person in the generation. He will likely be a double agent but probably without Miranda's knowledge. I think he's going to notify a few of Jake's allies and when things look to be going bad for Miranda, they are gonna show up and stomp. As for Jake, there's just no way he lets that bloodline go.
Gman
2025-01-23 20:33:09 +0000 UTCThis is got to be what’s happening. Jake killed EH. Kindroth is all in on team Jake. At least until there’s a better path to power. Which I doubt there will be in the 93rd. Arnold studied that ship they used for months to improve on his own knowledge of space travel. I find it hard to believe a genius like him wouldn’t have “bugged” that ship full of sensors to know who’s using it. If this isn’t a setup I’ll be disappointed in earths elites.
Biggy smalls
2025-01-23 20:21:56 +0000 UTCI am wondering, is the term "Elite" only for humans or humanoids ? I ask because it think the mountain they are close to is the territory of the frost wyvern. I don't know about you guys but that wyvern seems "Elite" to me.
Victor Desantiago
2025-01-23 19:56:02 +0000 UTCDefinitely a consideration. That said he did just blow up the planet of the last guy that crossed him so he’s sent that message too.
TwoMoreYears
2025-01-23 19:52:57 +0000 UTCI have not liked Kindroth from the start and felt he was going to betray them at some point. Shady manipulator guy from the start. But saying that I almost feel he gave Miranda a warning, maybe.... That whole part about feeling the mana had me wondering. She might not have expected king lulturd to be the one in the trap but I feel she might have felt it or known about it. I also feel that the Holy Church is not expecting William to be any trouble. William might save the day so Carmen can go play with Jake to kill Jacob.
Ty Cooper
2025-01-23 19:48:06 +0000 UTCSonofa
Nicolas Coons
2025-01-23 19:47:43 +0000 UTCOh no
Jaroslav Zapadlo
2025-01-23 19:35:36 +0000 UTCOh no
Jaroslav Zapadlo
2025-01-23 19:35:32 +0000 UTCAnd he had to specifically request it
Corvid
2025-01-23 19:30:48 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter.
Joshua Little
2025-01-23 19:29:02 +0000 UTCI see your point, and while I totally believe Jake will be a god before those 10k years are up, I don't think that the holy church believes that so this is disingenuous on their part
AetherBoye
2025-01-23 19:11:15 +0000 UTCJake: That's a good deal, but I'm going to have to say for you to, respectfully, go fuck yourself. Ding! 10 lvls
JayseKnyte
2025-01-23 18:59:15 +0000 UTCYeah I think the exact quote said something about them being in the right by the letter of the accord, just not really the spirit
Corvid
2025-01-23 18:51:11 +0000 UTCWhat they’re actually telling Jake is that they’ll keep them at home until he’s a god himself, then he’s free to hunt them down. 10,000 years is way more than enough time for the Church to tell if these descendants turn out evil or not.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 18:50:27 +0000 UTCTo be fair, IF Jake were to accept their offer, what’s happening back on Earth could be considered part of the deal—helping clean up the Church’s mess in this galaxy as they depart. Getting Ildur and all his lackeys in one place for Earth to wipe out, instead of having to hunt them down. As Jake just said, it’s “cold”. Maybe they’re going to tell him this is the down payment? Whether Kindroth is one of those loose ends or not, guess we’ll see.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 18:46:18 +0000 UTCI know where it’s going that Jake is not going to accept it but still itd be pretty cool if he did say yes. I mean it is a good deal
Andrew Plas
2025-01-23 18:38:34 +0000 UTCi doupt its the replacement as the Viper basically just pulled that one. Nah i think its more of a "You think i didnt notice a formation like this? i m a ducking Witch, you nitwit!" Proceed with a I´m not trapped here with you - kind of situation as she takes over their formations.
Jana
2025-01-23 18:36:07 +0000 UTCThanks but no thanks. That bloodline abt to be purged!
Abhishek
2025-01-23 18:33:53 +0000 UTCMfr... lol 😆
Bob Burns
2025-01-23 18:33:39 +0000 UTCNah. Safest bet is to have EH true soul recycled by the system and then the System, if it chooses to, will eventually offer some version of the bloodline as a reward. If ever. The version offered by the system would be sufficiently edited I imagine. best bet imo TFTC
Tom C
2025-01-23 18:32:38 +0000 UTC10k years is a blink of a hummingbird's eye. 10 eras, take it or leave it
AetherBoye
2025-01-23 18:32:04 +0000 UTCTFTC! "when the Viper had *remniscended* about if Ell’Hakan" remniscended isn't a word "reminisced" is and even that is odd in context because it speaks to fondly remembering something that happened in the past so maybe "theorized" instead? Since the Viper was speaking of a hypothetical. "She went forth to *expect* it, and" should be inspect And now I will go cry over my dinner in anticipation of my long weekend awaiting the resolution of tomorrows brutal cliffhanger :)
Xander
2025-01-23 18:31:49 +0000 UTCI think they're technically in the right given EH explicitly consented to this earlier
Andrew P
2025-01-23 18:23:22 +0000 UTCI wouldn’t be surprised if Jake called out the Holy Church of the Milky Way to be in breach of the Bloodline Accords. Then he and every faction there is gets a pass for all the violence they commit against them. It seems to me an obvious political move, but then again, Jake ain’t political.
Fervent Fiend
2025-01-23 18:06:09 +0000 UTCThe 10k years of staying in church territory doesn't mean squat anyway, if they start increasing their territories and use the bloodline to solidify control afterwards they'd still end up using the emotional brainwashing that folks found unacceptable. He could limit the number of offspring or have them shared with the Dao lords but most likely he's gonna go with the blasting approach.
Daniel
2025-01-23 18:04:03 +0000 UTCThey haven’t contested the pylon
Polaris
2025-01-23 18:02:46 +0000 UTCTFTC!!!!
Jose Reyna
2025-01-23 18:01:22 +0000 UTCIt is a good deal and he can surely get benefits from it but it would set a very bad precedent. It is alright to steal from me and then just placate me later. I see that being a bigger issue in the long run better off affirming that it is unacceptable.
LadyTempest
2025-01-23 17:50:16 +0000 UTCI honestly haven’t paid enough attention to kindroth the past hundred chapters or so… what exactly is up with the guy?
Asher Mack
2025-01-23 17:49:45 +0000 UTCSo, HOW has there been no notification to Jake of the hostile forces on Earth?? Unless there's some blocker on System messages, how?
inkaral
2025-01-23 17:46:59 +0000 UTC99.9999% of kids with eh's bloodline will end up being manipulative evil little shits that try to take over their own faction.
brjenness
2025-01-23 17:43:50 +0000 UTCFrom my understanding the only time the system reuses old blood lines is for specific events like the one Villy got the immortal mind from
kinglemur
2025-01-23 17:39:46 +0000 UTCExactly! The fact Jake hasn’t felt anything means she is not in real danger. Even if she dies it will be something similar to like when Sandy died and will come right back. That is another time when he didn’t feel anything.
LadyTempest
2025-01-23 17:37:24 +0000 UTCThanks!
Trevor Mergen
2025-01-23 17:19:02 +0000 UTCFairly sure Kindroth is a double agent and that Miranda's witch domain now includes all of Earth. The army is walking into an ambush of raining frogs that insult you before exploding your face.
mrthorwahl
2025-01-23 17:10:24 +0000 UTCThe only way I see Jake accepting any offer is by limiting the kids allowed. Like I could see Jake saying ok to this deal but you only get one child. First child should give the best results but it's no guarantee
William WIlson
2025-01-23 16:57:50 +0000 UTCThe formation that activated during this chapter is from illudar not Miranda. I wouldn't be surprised however if that Miranda is a doll and is one shot early on in the ambush tomorrow. To only find out it's a doll on Monday and she and Neil set up a prison formation surrounding the other formation. I can just see illudars pov walking victoriously towards the slain Miranda to collect the loot, thinking that's a funny item for her to drop. Only to reach the item and identify it as some broken totem, as he feels suddenly drained and Miranda starts to laugh.
William WIlson
2025-01-23 16:55:24 +0000 UTCProbably not. They are no longer working together.
Richard Loveless
2025-01-23 16:53:53 +0000 UTCHe literally has a spy among her guard. What they don't know is that William likely sniffed out all spies and the only reason this spy lasted was because Miranda wanted it that way.
William WIlson
2025-01-23 16:49:37 +0000 UTCDidn't they establish way back in like the 2nd book that if there's an emergency Miranda can make a change in haven requiring his authorization? Is that still a thing?
Erik Bekke
2025-01-23 16:49:25 +0000 UTCThe vampire monarch is attached to a soul bound object which the sword saint has. I'm also pretty sure that when Miranda does the whole projection thing she has to use a doll she created not just any random humanoid. What would be hilarious is if tomorrow we have a decisive strike on Miranda at the start, leaving us to believe she dies but Monday we find out that it's a shitty little doll and Miranda outside the formation trapping them all. Like she sets up a prison formation around thier formation while we all think she's dead a Lillian is fighting for her life when all of a sudden the entire ambush side looses all mana and stamina control and is weakened beyond believe.
William WIlson
2025-01-23 16:44:08 +0000 UTCI actually wouldn’t mind Jake taking the deal. As he ranks up he’s likely to need more and more resources that he can only get from specific factions. We’ve already seen that credits aren’t enough when dealing with other elites and that favors and unique/rare treasures become the currency. As dangerous as the bloodline is there are a lot of ifs, buts, and other things involved. Even Jake has acknowledged he can’t just go in guns ablaze and fix any problem. Just most of them. To me it would actually show growth to barter for something spectacular here. Especially with the knowledge that the holy church could have something he needs to help fix his soul down the line.
TwoMoreYears
2025-01-23 16:43:34 +0000 UTCKing Iludar is an idiot. Tomorrow, the eradication of every remnant of the Usurper begins (nice parallel structure there).
kingofshibainu
2025-01-23 16:42:49 +0000 UTCIf she’s “there” enough for her bloodline to work, she’s there enough for most everything to work for her, right? She’s a fairly high tier god, after all. I feel like they’re actually setting Jake up for, “See? Look at this generous offer he turned down, so I just had to kill him!” They’re trying to decapitate Earth in one go, Jake and Miranda. Of course, this is where Jake’s new soul space abilities come into play. No body needed? Perfect! The Holy Mother will miss this Lodestar Matron, once Villy gets done being pissed.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 16:42:44 +0000 UTCOoo do we finally get to see what Lillian is capable of?? Miranda will finally get those class levels shes been wanting. Also wouldnt Jake be getting bad vibes from bloodline if this wasnt to plan or at the very least worried bout Earth?
Indevan Jones
2025-01-23 16:40:04 +0000 UTCExchange Ell’Hakan's soul for the bloodline loot, that way both sides get what they want. Base on how I understand it, someone else will spawn with the bloodline if Ell’Hakan just dies because the system recycles bloodlines so destroying the bloodline may not be possible.
Neneera
2025-01-23 16:31:19 +0000 UTCBut the holy church gets no benefit being antagonistic with him considering he is valuable to many factions. Also its unlikely he is disliked by the holy mother for this as its just one bloodline. Maybe this one faction of the church might be mad.
Jaydan Man
2025-01-23 16:31:11 +0000 UTCJacob being an Augur is to important for the Holy Church to simply kill because they don't want him to raise the children anymore.
William WIlson
2025-01-23 16:30:01 +0000 UTCNah. This is going to be an “Oh, hell no”. At which point they toss Miranda’s life into the deal.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 16:27:29 +0000 UTCI think you forgot to read yesterday's chapter. Yes she is in her territory while on earth period. However she was lured into a formation in which stops that connection. While inside the formation she is no longer in her territory. I don't think that will matter much still think she's stronger than illudar.
William WIlson
2025-01-23 16:25:45 +0000 UTCActually, it looks like Kindroth is stuck in the middle of the “escorts” while Miranda and Lillian separated themselves.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 16:25:27 +0000 UTCThat and: “Miranda looked taken aback as she stumbled away from everyone, only Lillian staying by her side.” Yeah, that’s not posed at all. And we finally get to see what Lillian can do! But Kindroth? Definitely a traitor.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 16:22:39 +0000 UTCDeal isn't for the Holy Church to leave the Milky Way Galaxy for 10000 years they leave indefinitely giving its control to Jake. They also promise that Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline and all his children with his Bloodline won't leave the holy land for 10000 years.
William WIlson
2025-01-23 16:20:16 +0000 UTCYeah, but doesn’t she have a direct connection with the verdant witches, who are connected to villy who is connected to Jake? Could still be a possibility
BearHandMan
2025-01-23 16:14:15 +0000 UTCNo, just the part the Holy Church is in. These clowns won’t get off the planet.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 16:12:56 +0000 UTCI’m pretty sure we’re well past the point of whether Kindroth is a traitor or not.
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 16:10:05 +0000 UTCI don’t think Jake will become even S grade in the next 10,000 years. Even if S grade certainly not godhood.
Asher Mack
2025-01-23 16:08:48 +0000 UTCto expect it >inspect
Jeff McCulley
2025-01-23 16:06:53 +0000 UTCJake got levels for the whole rule so how many levels did Miranda get?
AfroMocha
2025-01-23 16:06:26 +0000 UTCIf Miranda and Lillian get trapped by a force as mid as this on their home planet and die then imo they were too weak to be a part of Jake’s budding empire. Miranda and Lillian should be able to trounce these fools. Miranda’s had access to the planetary core for years now. She should have an arsenal of options available to her. I’d also be shocked if Arnold wouldn’t know about everything and anything happening on earth given this is his home planet as well.
Biggy smalls
2025-01-23 16:05:10 +0000 UTCI would go a step further and say this is what that faction. The holy church wants so that they can frame Jake as this like dangerous untrustworthy person.
AfroMocha
2025-01-23 16:03:24 +0000 UTCWow that ending…..
Nate Slusher
2025-01-23 16:03:21 +0000 UTCThat’s a good point. Why would she care about a new dungeon enough to go visit it herself when they’ve got Minaga building Dungeon city. A dungeon that’ll dwarf whatever dungeon Kindroth just found. If an invading army can teleport to a witches planet and fool her into a trap on her home turf that witch should die.
Biggy smalls
2025-01-23 15:59:17 +0000 UTCI like this possibility!
ABTelford
2025-01-23 15:55:50 +0000 UTCYeah I’ll tell you the answer THE FUCK NO
Phoenixdrop
2025-01-23 15:49:31 +0000 UTCI mean… I don’t think Kin is a traitor for multiple reasons. But high among the reasons why is William, who can see karmic bonds. IIRC, that shit is hard to hide
Beckendwarf
2025-01-23 15:42:58 +0000 UTCI wonder if a God stalling Jake while Earth is under attack could be seen as Divine intervention into a Mortal conflict, and therefore giving Villy the green light. #feedthesnake
Tr0LLach
2025-01-23 15:41:39 +0000 UTCIt's not a direct line, it's a ritual. So unfortunately she wouldn't be able to.
Vex
2025-01-23 15:35:23 +0000 UTCYou can argue though that a refusal of the deal offered by a very high ranking god of the Church will forever set them as antagonistic. Sth which might bite back later, it is the biggest faction out there
SmokeJam
2025-01-23 15:24:48 +0000 UTCkindroth represents the only aspect of villy's identity that isn't found in jake.
brjenness
2025-01-23 15:22:57 +0000 UTCTftc
Matthias
2025-01-23 15:22:04 +0000 UTCmost likely= zog twist = everything we see and hear says kin traitor, but he's not. possible= double zog twist= fight starts with kin killing Miranda. possible= double blind zog twist fight starts with kin killing Miranda, but it's not really her
brjenness
2025-01-23 15:12:07 +0000 UTCTwo chapters back, Iludar’s pov in 1058, he thought that the raid had the support of the HC. But. It could be that Kindroth lied to him about that. 🤷♂️
Clint
2025-01-23 15:05:11 +0000 UTCI think it’s a con too. The idea that Miranda and Kindroth would go in person to investigate a new dungeon is kind of silly, especially at this precise moment when the world is on high alert.
Clint
2025-01-23 15:01:25 +0000 UTCOr a rehearsed scheme with Villy during his chat with him. They might have planned something to oust a fringe cel of the Holy Church to get a favor of the Holy Mother
Ray Light
2025-01-23 14:58:52 +0000 UTCI could be mistaken, but Miranda has a 'direct line' to Jake. Jake has a similar communication with Sylphie. So Miranda calls up Jake tells him she's been trapped and betrayed by the Holy Church and gives him the ammunition to start some shht at the negotiations. He calls in Sylphie to help Miranda, and Sylphie brings Vespera along, while Jake goes 'murder hobo' on the church. (not really my guess, just one of hundreds of ways Z could take this)
Nate
2025-01-23 14:58:48 +0000 UTCHad a heart attack reading this😅
Ray Light
2025-01-23 14:57:27 +0000 UTCOr we get to see “Miranda” die, and Jake gets a message from Lillian. And we have to wait until Monday to learn that they killed a decoy or their attacks bounced off a disguised Carmen.
Clint
2025-01-23 14:56:19 +0000 UTCMakes me wonder what he discussed about this off-page with Villy. He did have a chat with him and Villy is an incredible schemer. So fun things are about to happen!
Ray Light
2025-01-23 14:56:02 +0000 UTCIf that happens the whole universe is getting blown up and the holy church with it
Borbino the great
2025-01-23 14:55:20 +0000 UTCOtherwise it would be a continuation issue thing
Ray Light
2025-01-23 14:52:49 +0000 UTCJust think about tomorrow's Friday cliffhanger. Ha We won't find out about Miranda's fate for probably another week.
Ty Cooper
2025-01-23 14:46:34 +0000 UTCWhen EH invaded, Jake's instincts alerted him before it happened, despite him being much further away. That he's not worried suggests to me things are going to plan for him.
Andrew P
2025-01-23 14:43:26 +0000 UTCcliffhanger 🍄🍄🍄🍄
A L
2025-01-23 14:41:05 +0000 UTCThe Friday chapter will end with Miranda’s death and Jake getting the notification. It will be the worst cliff ever
SUlex
2025-01-23 14:38:18 +0000 UTCI gotta agree. This deliberate doozy of a cliffhanger is just… gah!! 😵💫 Zogarth’s gotta enjoy leaving us hanging if he’s dropping the chapter here.
ABTelford
2025-01-23 14:38:08 +0000 UTCNow I would pay even more to read that
Daniel Kaltenbach
2025-01-23 14:26:54 +0000 UTCI was literally thinking this like when sylphie and her parents were getting wrecked by the eagle his intuition was pinging him like crazy I’m sure if Miranda was in any kind of danger his intuition and gut feelings would be going nuts too
Santiago alonzo
2025-01-23 14:22:00 +0000 UTCSo cold zogarth…. What a doozy of a cliffhanger! 😂
Xien
2025-01-23 14:17:47 +0000 UTCAssuming Jake eventually gets control of the world wonder, he should ban the church people or charge them an exorbitant fee if he can for being so annoying. Even if everything is settled with them by then.
LostinLimbo
2025-01-23 14:16:45 +0000 UTCI'm pretty sure this chapter implies he did betray her. I just think that it won't matter, he's probably vastly underestimating her and especially Lillian, if the post-nevermore chapters are any indication. Edit: Though it could be that they are communicating telepathically throughout all this.
Seiryus
2025-01-23 14:07:31 +0000 UTC[New notification]: Miranda has died. ... FULL MURDER HOBO
Christian Sullivan
2025-01-23 14:05:44 +0000 UTCWhat a cliff… TYFTC
Andromeda Adams
2025-01-23 14:03:53 +0000 UTCwell, at least its not a Friday
Robert Phipps Jr (Perren d'Wolff)
2025-01-23 14:02:08 +0000 UTCJust talked to Z. Here goes: Maybe, duh, donuts, maybe, donuts on their backs, with the dude dressed as another dude pretending to be another dude, maybe, annnnnd no. Hope this helps 😇
Samuel Nelson
2025-01-23 13:55:58 +0000 UTCThat's more than enough time for Jake to ascend to godhood and renegotiate.
DreamCloud
2025-01-23 13:50:34 +0000 UTCRight, with the sleeper agent, he couldn't just say it.
Samuel Nelson
2025-01-23 13:48:55 +0000 UTCYes, thank you for the chappy Zogarth!
JJB4345_80_815
2025-01-23 13:47:27 +0000 UTCOh, Jacob isn't the kind of guy to sleep around, right?
Samuel Nelson
2025-01-23 13:47:01 +0000 UTCAlmost like they were let in...
Samuel Nelson
2025-01-23 13:46:05 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter!
Kt-x
2025-01-23 13:45:39 +0000 UTCI agree. Everything he was saying could have been said about the ambush. I'm betting they got someone there that can tell lies, or emotions.
Samuel Nelson
2025-01-23 13:45:02 +0000 UTCOh for sure, like including a line or two of internal monologue from Miranda noting how one of her guards is behaving strangely. This could be interpreted as the one spy being a little jumpy, and Miranda not being aware of the spy, but in actuality it’s one of the guards in on the ambush being a shit actor. Little things like that go a long way.
Kain
2025-01-23 13:43:37 +0000 UTCI'm ready to unsubscribe for 10 years so I can save me a few years of cliffhangers. Tftc!
Jaroslav Zapadlo
2025-01-23 13:43:26 +0000 UTC10,000 years, to a person who potentially will live for trillions of years, is a dumb deal. He should counter with, "I'm planning to make you leave anyway, and you can't stop me, so that's out."
Jake Schmitz
2025-01-23 13:42:37 +0000 UTCWell hot damn we are still in the air with Kindroth. Like others in the comments I do still feel like it could be him just selling his role to the spy or possible doublespeak. More so than what happens next I am more curious what our week ending will be. If both sides continue we could see Jakes final refusal and the start of conflict and maybe the Earth side twist. At the very least I don't see Iludar chatting up Miranda he should be going for the kill right away so if something is to happen I would except it to happen fairly quick. Miranda was working on body projections in D grade back in book 6 so this could just not even be her there.
Mike
2025-01-23 13:41:59 +0000 UTCOh yeah 100% the whole conversation was just a cover.
JAMAJ
2025-01-23 13:41:53 +0000 UTC#4 Hilarious progression of all the above.
NovaZero
2025-01-23 13:40:41 +0000 UTCMan I hope Jake is just as unreasonable as he find the Matron reasonable.. Let's go to war with the fanatics
Jesper Hansen
2025-01-23 13:39:00 +0000 UTCUnless he uses it as a chance to create the perfect heretic plague. Let's call it... Faithbane.
NovaZero
2025-01-23 13:37:43 +0000 UTCKindroth setting up King Illudar to flush him from hiding to prove his value because he knows that Jake and El'cheeto and the Church's meer involvement with them was so catastrophically offensive to Jake's sensibilities.
NovaZero
2025-01-23 13:35:37 +0000 UTCAren't they at the prima thing near the teleporter.
eatingpitza314
2025-01-23 13:35:25 +0000 UTCAnd when Jacob has an “accident”?
SunStar
2025-01-23 13:32:14 +0000 UTCThat’s a nap to an immortal
SunStar
2025-01-23 13:31:04 +0000 UTCIf that robot clone isn't called M1R4ND4 or doesn't have later eyes and a rocket fist then I don't want a robot clone.
Stuart Thwaites
2025-01-23 13:28:35 +0000 UTCCan’t wait for the slaughter
Jo
2025-01-23 13:28:11 +0000 UTCThey took her out of the lair dude.. although I think the twist will be Miranda being far more powerful & having a much larger lair then they expected
Dragon
2025-01-23 13:27:59 +0000 UTCThere are system contracts. So a possibility.
joe schmoe
2025-01-23 13:25:38 +0000 UTCThe reason he doesn't just come out and say it is because they know there is a spy traveling with them. I believe the convo about the dungeon is a cover to fill Miranda and Lillian in on what's happening.
TyranT-Rex
2025-01-23 13:25:21 +0000 UTCThe tool that every form of entertainment abuses the ordinance with.
Stuart Thwaites
2025-01-23 13:23:51 +0000 UTCThe mere fact the church wants this bloodline so bad should be enough for jake to deny these offerings.
Jan Backhaus
2025-01-23 13:23:15 +0000 UTCAbsolutely this, I think you nailed it.
joe schmoe
2025-01-23 13:22:33 +0000 UTCThat's the thing, with her access to the Planetary Pylon and her position as the Earth's de facto regent, the whole Earth is her Lair. If she didn't set up anything to empower her with this power then idk what the Verdant Witches even are good for
Cperkenling
2025-01-23 13:22:11 +0000 UTCYeah they might be good, but it's so hard to believe that even with kindroth's they were able to sneak by so easily, it's not impossible. I just feel it's unlikely
Justus Saucedo
2025-01-23 13:22:03 +0000 UTCI think the sword saint is probably hiding just around the corner, ready for this fight.
Damascus
2025-01-23 13:21:56 +0000 UTCOh yeah, Miranda knew that shit was coming. "... as her eyes opened wide in surprise and horror." When have we ever seen Miranda respond to threats with anything other than a fair bit of snark, before thoroughly crushing their spirits? Can't wait to see how this shit goes down!
MarineDebris
2025-01-23 13:19:12 +0000 UTCEven if he could use light affinity, it's not worth it. One of the few things where Jake and Billy agree completely is freedom threw ones own power and El'hakan's bloodline is the ultimate 'fuck you' to their ideal.
Stuart Thwaites
2025-01-23 13:19:02 +0000 UTCThey lured her out of her lair, but Arnold and Carmen are just hanging out in haven so probably going to be fine.
joe schmoe
2025-01-23 13:18:52 +0000 UTCI think a good way to hide any intentions is by being very selective with the inner monologue that you choose to include. It really takes any author "slight of hand" to the next level, adding even more doubt to the minds of readers.
Blaq Jesus
2025-01-23 13:16:31 +0000 UTCI think it would be wise to follow Jacob's plan. I'm sure he knows much more than Jake ever could regarding the holy church.
Blaq Jesus
2025-01-23 13:13:26 +0000 UTCThe church getting out the Milky Way for 10,000 years is a pretty good deal, but I can't see Jake taking it.
Hotep Saxis
2025-01-23 13:12:51 +0000 UTCSure looks like he is trying to, otherwise he would have been saying something like these dumbasses are over there instead of some story about a dungeon.
Hotep Saxis
2025-01-23 13:10:50 +0000 UTCis the church actually involved in the Raid on earth? it seems like it's King Illudar's plot only, but he wants that to "prove himself" to the church.
Rui
2025-01-23 13:06:27 +0000 UTCI'm curious what gives these chuckleheads the confidence to go against The Witch in her Lair EDIT because none of you have the skill to extend replies or memory longer than five chapters: SHE HAS ACCESS TO PLANETARY PYLON. HER SKILLSET IS SETTING UP RITUALS. HALF OF HER PATH IS ABOUT DEFENDING HER TERRITORY (WHICH IS EARTH)
Cperkenling
2025-01-23 13:01:15 +0000 UTCEh I think it’s more that they just want to put on a show and make sure the king doesn’t run away early. I’m sure whatever force the king brought has some capacity to scout so that he can make sure Kendroth isn’t obviously bringing the entire town of Haven down on them.
Kain
2025-01-23 13:00:32 +0000 UTCThis would be great.
Rewdan
2025-01-23 12:59:14 +0000 UTCZogarth, really, two cliffhangers on a Thursday, what have I done to you? Loving the work
Rewdan
2025-01-23 12:55:43 +0000 UTCActually, shouldnt that vampire king from teasure hunt be able to imitate her like he did with sword saint when Ell Hakan attacked Earth?
Bartlomiej Głowacki
2025-01-23 12:53:34 +0000 UTCEmbrace the power of “and”. It’s all cliffs until the looting and skill upgrade chapters in the broken ruin of the HC’s planet.
Clint
2025-01-23 12:52:52 +0000 UTCI don't think kindroth betrayed Miranda, because Jake's bloodline hasn't gone off. When ever his friends are in danger he knows about it or maybe he has betrayed her but she expected it.
Jake Thorpe
2025-01-23 12:52:06 +0000 UTCI think Kindroth is a triple agent has it isn't mentioned that he distanced himself from the Haven team. Also I think illdur and pals manged to sneak in too easily.
Martino Zanchi
2025-01-23 12:52:01 +0000 UTCTftc
Beemoss
2025-01-23 12:51:29 +0000 UTCMy prediction is that he will agree under the condition that Jacob is the one to manage the bloodline and it's inheritors, wrapping this up so that he can swiftly go back to help Miranda.
Martino Zanchi
2025-01-23 12:48:49 +0000 UTCIf miranda was jn actual danger wouldn't Jake know? Wouldn't Jake have felt some kind of bad premonition about going away to the meeting? Jake always felt such things before. Like when silvie was in danger before or the entire time before ellkahan attacked earth. Or in nevermore when they skipped the safe floor because jake had a hunch that they shouldnt stay. There is no way he didn't feel anything if mirandas live was in actual danger by him leaving for this meeting.
Sammot
2025-01-23 12:47:59 +0000 UTCTo be honest, I would love to see that. The absolute terror of comming face to face with Carmen of all people on the battlefield would be priceless.
Samuel Wheatley
2025-01-23 12:47:27 +0000 UTCAt some point Jake has to show the god community he is not yip 2.0 and destined to die by FAFO.
brjenness
2025-01-23 12:46:12 +0000 UTCWell, unless he is claiming a bow supply up until God-Tier, one bow every 50 levels might be interesting but he has no use for Light affinity bows😅
Ray Light
2025-01-23 12:45:26 +0000 UTCMost likely no, even though the ritual would most likely fail. The Miranda part is interesting because of how it is split up. I think there is code in the dialogue, my guess is around the group size, type of dungeon. Hidden Valley -> spies are in escort, Illusions -> Trap, and Level being enemy numbers. I will be disappointed in the Kindroth character if he didnt set up protocals.
Devillelouch
2025-01-23 12:44:28 +0000 UTCNooo! Cut-off point is too fast! We already know he isn't going to take the offer.. he's too proud to do so and not a trader who needs anything...😵
Ray Light
2025-01-23 12:44:02 +0000 UTCHmm. What will he choose. Door #1 Peace, Door #2 War or Door #3 he senses an issue on Earth and quickly leaves without explanation or thinks he’s been double crossed by the church and goes full murderhobo and then heads back to Earth.
Cory Sauls
2025-01-23 12:43:17 +0000 UTCI'm 99% sure they're talking in code. "I find it hard to believe our scouts could miss that." "Level requirement of 280" "With quite a wide level scale, coupled with illusion, it doesn't sound like a pleasant place."
Tarodan
2025-01-23 12:43:03 +0000 UTCYeah but I don't see the viper stabbjng Jake in the back.
Sammot
2025-01-23 12:43:02 +0000 UTCI think that the conversation with Kindroth and Miranda is actually double speak. Kindroth is telling Miranda that there are people conceled around the tree and the highest or average level is 280. That they have illusion magic and mana disrupting formations. They are both aware of the spy traveling with them so this is kindroth getting mirranda and Lillian ready.
TyranT-Rex
2025-01-23 12:42:23 +0000 UTCOr just throwing this out there, robot Miranda clone from Arnold
fruit dragon
2025-01-23 12:42:03 +0000 UTCOr the Lodestar Matron informs him of the ambush, and offers to spare Miranda if he agrees to the deal. With the same ballistic-Jake result.
Clint
2025-01-23 12:41:26 +0000 UTCMy guess is we'll learn one of those things
fruit dragon
2025-01-23 12:40:37 +0000 UTCWell this isn't the cliffhanger, because obviously the answer is "Fuck no.".
Julian
2025-01-23 12:40:27 +0000 UTCFirst sentence thought dawn kindroth is that stupid then rem spy also with them and kindroth did not run to his buddies. Set up...probably. jake...no idea...gut says he says no and it's been proven he can't trust all the church....so probably no
brjenness
2025-01-23 12:40:15 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter! Not the way I was expecting things to go. Nice turns.
Arieh Sochaczevski
2025-01-23 12:39:45 +0000 UTCThere’s a special title for lvl 999 peak-S grades who survive attacking a god. The title for doing it in C grade should be insane. But I doubt she’s sufficiently present to allow it, unless it’s a soul attack like Gaze.
Clint
2025-01-23 12:38:46 +0000 UTCI think Jake could call somebody a cool Guy and then be utterly goddamn selfish. See the viper. So I don't think he's working against Jake. I think he might just be very, very selfish
fruit dragon
2025-01-23 12:37:35 +0000 UTCThe question is whether this is the cliff hanger or tomorrows is.
Michael Dugan
2025-01-23 12:36:51 +0000 UTCSo many questions. Did Kindroth really lose his mind and betray Miranda? He as there really a traitor placed in her escort?? What’s Church thinking making semi-reasonable offers while murdering Jake’s closest associate back on Earth? Is that two different factions of the Church? What do they even hope to gain by killing Miranda, aside from Jake’s eternal emnity? Where’s that Desolation thingie? Is the Church planning its own planetary sacrifice ritual to try to beat Jake? And will we learn the answers to any of this before Monday???
Clint
2025-01-23 12:36:41 +0000 UTCYay murder hobo!
Jordan Rogers
2025-01-23 12:36:17 +0000 UTCVile Damned cliffhangers
fruit dragon
2025-01-23 12:35:54 +0000 UTCI guess tomorrow is going tk be a new cliff chapter.
Pierre-clément LAMBRIX
2025-01-23 12:34:39 +0000 UTCThe only way I see Jake even actually thinking about giving up anything here is if the holy mother herself would swear on her bloodline or whatever else she has, that cheetos bloodline will NEVER be used for anything that has not been agreed upon. And since she probably won't and can't (because free will still exists and we are talking about FOREVER) it ain't gonna happen.
dragonslaver
2025-01-23 12:34:04 +0000 UTCI wanna see jake attack a god with his bow, can you imagine the amount of records he will get
Mohammed Sheekh
2025-01-23 12:33:30 +0000 UTC"She went forth to expect it, and that’s when Miranda frowned. “This is no dunge-“ Should be inspect. Tftc
SilverSentry
2025-01-23 12:33:22 +0000 UTCPlease have Miranda be Carmen with an illusion around her. The shock and awe factor would be incredible! Thanks for the chapter mate!
Jacob Conway
2025-01-23 12:32:55 +0000 UTCAnd tomorrow he gets a message from Miranda saying the church lured her out and is trying to kill her and he goes ballistic
Lawrence
2025-01-23 12:32:27 +0000 UTCI can't believe kindroth is anything but a double agent just on the fact that Jake called him a cool guy (or something like that, forgot exactly what it was). There is no way Jake would call him that with his bloodline if he is a guy that's willing to put a knife In his back if it was convenient.
Sammot
2025-01-23 12:30:48 +0000 UTCHm this time I actually can't call Jake's decision. Both paths are viable and will forever change their relationship. As for Miranda: looking forward to the fight hopefully starting tomorrow :D
SmokeJam
2025-01-23 12:30:39 +0000 UTCI'm pretty sure he isn't going to trust them with it but on the off chance that he does then the news that Miranda was attacked is going to change his mind.
eatingpitza314
2025-01-23 12:30:30 +0000 UTCIs there any chance Zog could be bribed with the promise of baked goods to not make a motherfucker of a cliff tomorrow?
Michael McMahon
2025-01-23 12:30:13 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
Tilen Praprotnik
2025-01-23 12:29:58 +0000 UTCMiranda dying is smth i think just won’t happen doesn’t she have a teleport Jake back button?
Unlisted Pokémon Hudson
2025-01-23 12:29:58 +0000 UTCJake is about to murder a gods vessel at c rank 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Ira White
2025-01-23 12:29:27 +0000 UTCTyftc
Frédéric Cantin
2025-01-23 12:28:55 +0000 UTCReally glad there is a chapter tomorrow…
Mark
2025-01-23 12:28:25 +0000 UTCHow very interesting that the entire situation with Miranda and Kendroth was described with what they said or with modifiers like “looked” and “appeared” and not a single line of internal monologue for anyone involved. Still not buying it lol.
Kain
2025-01-23 12:28:01 +0000 UTCNice thank you for the chapter
joel southard
2025-01-23 12:26:06 +0000 UTCWho else thinks Miranda set up Formations for Kindroth and that’s why she’s “well aware”…
Jana
2025-01-23 12:25:53 +0000 UTCTFTC!! I don't think Jake will agree to the deal maybe if she helps with Miranda then maybe he will agree then also I think it will only aggravate him
Sailesh Kumar Kumar
2025-01-23 12:25:16 +0000 UTCThanks for feeding my addiction Zog <3
MrKorlares
2025-01-23 12:23:41 +0000 UTCBetter negotiations then I thought, still Jake can be a single minded bastard when he wants to be. Time for fighting here and on Earth. Guess Kindroth might have actually betrayed Earth. Can't wait to see how it all goes down.
Unwillingmainer
2025-01-23 12:22:01 +0000 UTCFrog rain plz🐸🐸🐸🐸
Profile Name
2025-01-23 12:21:04 +0000 UTCThank u for the story
C0bra$
2025-01-23 12:16:48 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
Connor
2025-01-23 12:15:38 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
BumAssBumAss
2025-01-23 12:15:26 +0000 UTCFinally first Zogarth is the reason I get up in the morning especially so early
DarkKingLycaon
2025-01-23 12:14:08 +0000 UTC