Chapter 1039 - A Hearty Conversation
Added 2024-12-11 12:14:05 +0000 UTCVilly was very interested in Jake’s fight with Ell’Hakan, far more than Jake had thought he would be, considering it was just a battle between C-grades. Alright, to be fair, the god was clearly just being polite while listening to Jake’s tale... right up until Jake mentioned Ell’Hakan going full delulu Celestial Child mode.
After that, the Viper began to show genuine interest as Jake went over everything. Toward the end, the god was incredibly engaged, and he seemed more interested in discussing Ell’Hakan than the fact that Ell’Hakan’s Truesoul had been robbed away by an Augur.
“I’m gonna admit that he surprised me, which just shows that one should never underestimate a powerful Bloodline. Doing what he did to hang onto life isn’t something I expect you to see again any time soon, if ever. His expert use of faith energy to maintain his own body was also extraordinary, if ultimately fatal. As you said, he was already dead the moment he fully began to believe he was the Celestial Child,” the Viper said, having decided to give his interpretation of what Ell’Hakan had done.
“I’ve told you before, but belief and will are far more powerful than you can imagine. He truly believed he was this Celestial Child, and the system rewarded his belief. Ell’Hakan genuinely believed he had that kind of power, and up to a limit, he was granted it, only limited by the stats of his mortal soul. However, what I find the most impressive is that he was apparently so delusional in his belief that he couldn’t and wouldn’t die that even the system seemed to believe it. Of course, no amount of belief and delusion can truly alter reality on a fundamental level, and when you shattered his Soulshape for good, that was it, no matter how much he believed something like that wouldn’t kill him.”
“I didn’t expect you to praise him so much,” Jake said after a brief pause. “Almost makes me jealous.”
“Eh, don’t be. You did ultimately prove yourself the better Chosen by killing him, and let’s not act like your Bloodline isn’t at least twice as ridiculous as his. What was it you said it allowed you to do? Upgrade a skill to literally pause time from your perspective until you move to restart it? Yeah, that alone makes me question how the system fucked up allowing someone like you to pass through quality control,” the snake god said semi-jokingly.
“All I’m saying is that you had a good opponent. Someone worth actually fighting. Hearing you talk about the battle and what Ell’Hakan was capable of, I can’t help but consider what he could have been if Yip of Yore hadn’t snatched him up, but if the Dao Sect had instead gotten him to join them. His ability to emotionally manipulate himself would have been extraordinary there, and with proper teaching and guidance, the unsettling elements of his Bloodline could have quickly been suppressed and perhaps even turned into a positive. He would also be one of their celibate monks, of course, as I do agree that spreading such a Bloodline seems like a bad idea... which gets us to the finale of your little fight.”
“The Holy Church,” Jake nodded, them having finally reached perhaps the most important topic they would have to discuss.
“Right... what are you planning on doing about it?” the snake god asked.
“I was kind of hoping you had some input,” Jake said bluntly.
“Why would I?” Villy said, Jake easily imagining him shrugging on the other side of the telepathic connection. “Last time I checked, you were the one slighted in this matter, not me. You were also robbed by a bunch of C-grades, making it very much a mortal matter. I see no reason to get involved with something like that... and neither would I expect anyone else who should stay out of C-grade affairs to.”
Jake quickly understood what Villy was getting at. He wasn’t going to take part in this, and neither would anyone else higher up in the Holy Church. As he said, this was a C-grade matter. His words also held the implication that should the Church decide to get involved with people who shouldn’t, the Viper would respond in kind.
Still, Jake did hold some worries.
“I’m pretty certain that the ones who want Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline are very high up in the hierarchy. Powerful gods. I guess what I’m worried about is pissing them off too much, creating future trouble for myself. Bertram compared it to how the Endless Empire would react if someone killed me, cutting off their Path to creating new True Royals, and when I think about it like that, I could see them carry a grudge that could become very annoying down the line,” Jake explained his thoughts.
“I don’t think you can compare anything to the pure fanaticism displayed by the Endless Empire when it comes to their True Royals. Do I think the Holy Church will be pissed off? Yes. Do I think it will create some conflict down the line if you do what I think you plan on doing? Also yes. Do I think that’s a bad thing? No, no, not really. What are you afraid of? Even if someone killed you, the Endless Empire wouldn’t make a god descend for revenge. No, they would send C-grades, assuming a C-grade killed you. Responding with appropriate force is such a norm that even they would follow it, much less the Holy Church,” the Viper explained.
“Could still prove very annoying...” Jake muttered. Even if only C-grades would be coming for him, the Holy Church’s methods weren’t generally known to be the straightforward kind, and Jake would really love to avoid dealing with a bunch of schemes to try and get revenge on him.
“You worry too much. Do also remember it’s just one internal faction of the Church you’re pissing off, and by doing so, you may even make another one like you. I would also add that with you being who you are, you are bound to get into conflict with big factions at some point, and let’s not act like you are currently buddy-buddy with the Church. So, as I said, just do what you want to do, and if the Holy Church wants to make an inappropriately disproportionate response, I’ll gladly step in. But if not... let the C-grades play,” the Malefic Viper assured Jake.
“Alright,” Jake finally nodded, feeling somewhat assured by the Viper’s words.
“Look, if it’s any reassurance, then no one from the Holy Church has contacted me about Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline. If they truly viewed his Bloodline as something equally important to how the Endless Empire views yours, then the Holy Mother herself would have come by for a visit. The fact that she nor anyone else has even tried should let you know that they truly don’t care that much,” Villy said, calming Jake further.
Jake sighed as he looked toward the ceiling of his lab, considering what to do next as he resolved himself. “I guess that’s just how things are.”
“Sometimes, it indeed just is what it is. I would bet on the Holy Church reaching out relatively soon to that witch of yours with talks about compensation, so that will be fun. Who knows, maybe they’ll even offer something so good that you decide to forgive and forget?” Villy said jokingly, seemingly looking forward to Jake’s continued chaotic future.
With the topic of the Holy Church handled, the two of them proceeded to shoot the shit for a while, just discussing everything they had been up to as Jake learned a lot more about what had been happening in the rest of the multiverse while Jake was busy killing the Usurper and recuperating afterward.
The fallout from Yip of Yore’s death had yet to settle, seeing as it had only been a couple of days ago the god had died, meaning things remained very much chaotic. Villy naturally took advantage of this chaos as much as he could, expanding the Order of the Malefic once more, this time with newfound vigor.
Having killed quite a few gods following the death of Yip of Yore, Villy had also sown chaos in many places in the multiverse by creating power vacuums, as these gods tended to rule their own small turfs. Factions spanning many galaxies had suddenly lost their Patron god and were spiraling, with the Order not making it better by swooping in and laying claim to the domain of the fallen god.
Things were still in their early stages, but the Viper was pleased with the developments so far. It would take many years before the Order could truly settle down in all its newly conquered locations, but contrary to last time, their foundation was far more powerful this time around.
All doubt surrounding the Malefic Viper disappeared the moment he killed Yip of Yore, seemingly without breaking a sweat. The very correct rumor that the Viper had planned the confrontation between himself and Yip from the very start also began to propagate, only making more people afraid of the notorious Malefic Viper and all the more determined to not make him an enemy.
Of course, some questions still remained. One big enigma in everything that had gone down was Eversmile. He had seemingly not been involved in much toward the end, only advising and helping Yip of Yore here and there, only to instantly disappear afterward.
Many questioned if he had truly backed Yip or if he had also worked for the Viper. It quickly became clear that at least Valhal had kind of played both sides, effectively just working as officiators of the fight, but Eversmile had been far more involved early on, having even stepped in to help Yip of Yore during the Chosen Ceremony.
Jake was also curious about exactly what Eversmile was up to, but Villy kept the details confidential, refusing to share anything juicy. All Jake did become certain of was that Eversmile definitely had some personal interest in the matter, likely doing some weird karmic experiment or something. That, or he just thought it was a fun scenario to observe as it unfolded.
Either way, as the two of them kept talking, they soon ran out of any recent happening to discuss, which was when Villy remembered something.
“I totally forgot to ask, but what did you get for killing Ell’Hakan? Seeing as he was a former Chosen turned Usurper and the unique state he forced his body and soul into during his final moments, some real whacky stuff had to have been going on with his Records, which should lead to an interesting reward,” Villy asked curiously.
“I did get something pretty interesting,” Jake said as he didn’t hesitate to pull out the Celestial Heart that had formed from Ell’Hakan’s Records upon death. As a reminder, once someone died, a certain amount of their Records tended to gather in a specific part of their body, infusing it with energy and turning it into an actual item. This was where all the drops from beasts came from, and the enlightened were no different.
After describing the heart as Villy couldn’t see it due to them only speaking over a telepathic connection, the god became more and more interested, especially because the description had redacted portions and even said it had remnants of Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline. A phrasing Jake did want a clarification on.
“What exactly does it mean when the system says it contains remnants of Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline? Does it mean that the Truesoul that the Holy Church has is missing a part or something? That shouldn’t be a thing, right?” Jake asked.
“It’s not a thing, no. The Truesoul and Bloodline are one. You cannot scrape off a part of it like that. No, I reckon the Records in this Celestial Heart are more akin to those that would come when someone with a Bloodline gets a child. Based on what you said, the Celestial Child believed until the very end he was a Reincarnation, and this may be a reflection of that. The heart is also connected to Bloodlines quite deeply, making this a very unique and interesting item you’ve received,” the Viper spoke rather enthusiastically.
“Wait... if the Records are a bit like that of a child, does that mean this item could be used to revive the Bloodline even if I got rid of his Truesoul?” Jake asked, once more considering if he should just destroy the heart then and there.
“No, that’s not how Bloodlines work at all. What I suspect you have is instead an item that has a Bloodline-level ability. One that can do something related to an aspect of Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline. But, truth be told, I can’t say much with certainty without inspecting the Celestial Heart closely in person,” Villy said.
Jake nodded along as he kept staring at the item in question.
“Oh, by the way, you asked earlier what kind of stuff would be good to put on the table in a Divine Bargain... well, that Celestial Heart is definitely one such item, and truth be told, I wouldn’t complain if you decided to offer that up,” the Malefic Viper said.
“So sorry, the skill is on cooldown,” Jake quickly said. “Not that I would give it to you just like that anyway. Not before I know what it does. A description with that many [Redacted] in it is simply too juicy to give away before I figure it out myself.”
“Just don’t eat it or try to experiment with it, okay?” the Viper said, turning serious. “Keep it locked away until you’re back in the Order, and we’ll look at it together. While the probability is low, the mere fact it’s so closely tied to a Bloodline makes it possible the Celestial Heart is harmful in some way. Also, I do want to, at the very least, see it myself before you accidentally fuck it up somehow.”
“Fair,” Jake relented, putting the Celestial Heart away for safe storage once more. The Viper did have a point. Seeing as how dangerous Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline was, messing with an item containing remnants of it – one that didn’t even say what it did in the description – seemed quite risky. At least way too risky, considering he was still low-key considering just destroying it… though now he had a fear that destroying it could also lead to something unintended.
Yeah, better leave it in there till I’m back at the Order, Jake told himself as the two of them moved on and talked about some more minor matters, but truth be told, there really wasn’t much to discuss at this point.
The Patron and Chosen had both won their respective battles and were now both busy reaping the rewards. The Order would expand to many more places in the multiverse, the Malefic Viper now far more notorious after he’d shown that he wasn’t simply relying on his legacy but was truly worthy of his title of Primordial.
Meanwhile, Jake was to claim his galaxy and thus solidify the power of his own budding faction, though, in truth, it would be Miranda doing much of the work. Jake wasn’t sure how he wanted things to be done and how to handle everything even once the galaxy was taken over – the process of actually conquering it being nothing more than a formality at this point.
Luckily, he had smart people in his corner who could figure all those things out, and as he finished up his talks with Villy for now, he prepared to head out for a meeting with Miranda and others to discuss what would come next… including his plan of invading the Holy Church’s domain to end Ell’Hakan once and for all.
Comments
TYFTC!
Rachel Clements
2025-01-29 18:44:24 +0000 UTCJakes going to end up using his juice on that heart, isn’t he? That’ll be interesting
D k
2025-01-29 12:13:39 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter!
Olof Karlsson
2024-12-20 23:38:59 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter.
Joshua Little
2024-12-18 01:36:58 +0000 UTCTyftc
Chloe
2024-12-16 14:46:14 +0000 UTCNot suppress, but harness, control, and focus, maybe?
BearHandMan
2024-12-13 06:07:07 +0000 UTCNooo I can already feel the despair of the Friday cliff…On exam week too whyyy 😭😭😭 But anyway tyftc Zog 🥲. First Sage let’s go!
Lucy
2024-12-12 14:34:53 +0000 UTCThe chapters of Jake and villy just talking are my favorite ones.
Admorias
2024-12-12 11:47:54 +0000 UTCOh absolutely. and especially after jake becomes the admin or whatever for the milky way she'll move up big time too
Asher Mack
2024-12-12 11:16:43 +0000 UTCYes, thank you for the chappy Zogarth!
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-12 11:11:23 +0000 UTCHey! I just realized what Jake can do the divine bargain with. Eron's fucking books. New knowledge for a God who loves knowledge. And I bet it is new since its a unique insight based on a crazy bloodline. I bet you Jake would get good shit in return. Better than what he got for the pylon
Gman
2024-12-12 08:45:02 +0000 UTCTftc!
Chase Burton
2024-12-12 05:51:52 +0000 UTCI mean at this point the church has openly retreated and are preparing to pull out anyway. They are an all or nothing faction like with earth. If they buy Jake off they'll probably still leave, and if he goes and unalives them they will still leave, just in ghost form.
Corvid
2024-12-12 05:31:45 +0000 UTCTrue but it's also been said a lot that Umbra was at the level of a primordial and one of the most terrifying gods in existence. I think it's a combination of records for primordials being the first ones coupled with all that extra time to grind out god levels or whatever
Corvid
2024-12-12 05:27:02 +0000 UTCShe's low key one of the most powerful characters in the series, it's kinda funny. Able to trap the immortal Eron, cut off an entire planet from communication albeit briefly, and manage the paperwork of Jake's shenanigans. All of the witches of the verdant lagoon are just super secretaries in the best way.
Corvid
2024-12-12 05:24:43 +0000 UTCAlso would be awesome to see from Villy’s POV. Like how many levels (or whatever power concept gods go by) did he gain? Did he gain any new skills/titles? Is that even a thing for him?
BearHandMan
2024-12-12 04:27:31 +0000 UTCWould be cool if Jake could somehow distill the heart into Jakejuice. Or using it to directly unseal another layer of his own bloodline. It seems it naturally gets a stronger through each grade Jake reaches.
Tommy S
2024-12-12 03:51:18 +0000 UTCYeah, plus like Villy said, bloodlines are not system regulated. No telling how that item would affect Jakes palate; Especially since he half blew it up with a desolation core lol...
Tommy S
2024-12-12 03:47:14 +0000 UTCThe dao are teachers. Jacob is a Hunter. Thay would suppress his hunger for a challenge. It would be a down grade.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-12 03:27:18 +0000 UTCDamn I didn't realize it was still broken. I guess it'll remain broken until he reaches B grade or he upgrades the skill somehow
austin kutz
2024-12-12 03:05:46 +0000 UTCThank u for the story
C0bra$
2024-12-12 01:32:44 +0000 UTCwhat they don't understand is that in here being correct is far far less important then being funny or just interesting.
brjenness
2024-12-12 01:04:39 +0000 UTCwould be funny if Miranda was the first to reach B grade
Kevin Watson
2024-12-12 01:01:00 +0000 UTC- I like text that gives me clues as to how someone is saying something. It’s all personal preference. I’ve read stuff where there were no guides to how a character emotionally inflected their words and it could be interpreted at least 3 ways and it was confusing as hell. So, yea, I like writing that tells us how the characters emote.
ABTelford
2024-12-11 23:52:14 +0000 UTCYou’re right it is fun to speculate. But I reserve the right to roll my eyes VERY hard when people go completely off the rails saying Jake’s gonna do stuff that he’s said he won’t do or that break the universes rules. So, yea, chalk this up to me rolling my eyes out loud. 😆
ABTelford
2024-12-11 23:44:38 +0000 UTCI saw someone say this earlier, but if Jake was able to create self emotional manipulation from the bloodline like Villy said the Dao sect would have taught EH, that would be a sick power up.
Hunter
2024-12-11 23:22:49 +0000 UTCPalate is broken
Hunter
2024-12-11 23:21:28 +0000 UTCStill broken from desolation incident
Tyler S.
2024-12-11 23:21:25 +0000 UTCShouldn't Jake use palate to examine the celestial heart? That's literally what it's for
austin kutz
2024-12-11 23:16:31 +0000 UTCWas thinking god kings and queens were gods of the gods but I think the primordials are primal they obtained a power that was raw and primal in the first universe and again I think this has something to do with the sage. I think each one of the primordials have met the First Sage in one way or another hence why his boots have such strong ties with them all.
AfroMocha
2024-12-11 23:14:39 +0000 UTCThe Skarpi?
AfroMocha
2024-12-11 23:09:47 +0000 UTCI think when Jake and villy met first the Viper mentioned something like: it's easy I did at least once. And after a second question the response was smoething like you can't become a god more than once. This would be ridiculous ;)
Was geht sie dass an
2024-12-11 22:57:20 +0000 UTCI don’t think Jake would actually take such a deal, but depending on how entrenched the Holy Church is in his galaxy, I think it’s an interesting offer. Especially because Jake doesn’t actually want to go out and conquer other galaxies, I assume it’s like the world leader position; he wants it just because he doesn’t want anyone else to have it. I’m pretty sure Jake doesn’t care what happens in other galaxies, especially since the Holy Church isn’t really his enemy. If he didn’t hate EH’s bloodline so much (understandably), I think Jake would accept such an offer, in addition to some various goodies.
Damian Karis
2024-12-11 22:56:52 +0000 UTCIt’s what they mean when they say “show, don’t tell”. “Tears slowly rolled down his face” vs. “At this point antagonist was very sad”.
Johnny
2024-12-11 22:31:21 +0000 UTCFair, but you don’t (shouldn’t) write for the dumbest among us. And nah it’s not odd that I’m commenting this far into it, cuz u expect writing to improve more than it perhaps has throughout a series. I’m not even hating, it was constructive
Johnny
2024-12-11 22:29:58 +0000 UTCNature's attendant had their kid when he was S grade and got it on with a godly yggdrasil WHO IS A LITERAL TREE, NOT DRYAD, JUST TREE. So we have no idea what the rules on that exactly are
Exodus Uno
2024-12-11 21:49:56 +0000 UTCWitches keep the Order running.
Daniel Golding
2024-12-11 21:48:54 +0000 UTCBAHAHA im both incredibly amused and wondering what kind of smoke you two just fumed
Lizy Flore
2024-12-11 21:48:48 +0000 UTCDelulu means delusional
David Abellán Muñoz
2024-12-11 21:42:17 +0000 UTCI have a feeling we will get a Miranda and Jake planning session tomorrow
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 21:37:18 +0000 UTCMaybe it’s redacted for Jake, but Villy will be able to see what it actually does and Jake will use it in hand even though he can’t technically see the full description
King Nereus
2024-12-11 21:30:25 +0000 UTCZig explicitly wrote this chapter to shut down those claims. How‽
Luke Scheffe
2024-12-11 21:30:12 +0000 UTCWhat restrictions? Gods have kids constantly. All of nevermore was spent with the grandkid of two gods.
Luke Scheffe
2024-12-11 21:27:46 +0000 UTCAlso he has perfect recall, so he wants to be able to re examine it till he can comprehend how it works.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 21:21:55 +0000 UTCI doubt it. Umbra is almost the same age as them, literally born before the second universe was integrated, but isn’t a primordial. It has to be for becoming a god in the first era. Especially because it’s not like everyone is stagnating. The primordials keep advancing and the other gods follow behind.
Luke Scheffe
2024-12-11 21:21:32 +0000 UTCIf Jake Juice is combined with the heart to make a new sentient entity then these would obviously not be the only ingredients and there would have to be a ritual of some sort involved as well like the last times… .. but I think based on what we know right now then at best it could result in another low-grade false god believing itself to be the Celestial Child, but I don’t see enough, if any, benefit for Jake to make it worth trying to do. Perhaps in the future it can be used to help revive the fallen king somehow, but that isn’t clear at the moment and is seemingly pretty far off.
King Nereus
2024-12-11 21:18:25 +0000 UTCHopefully you guys are right, but the item description says: This item allows you to [Redacted] while held. Assuming redacted is Manipulate or Sway or Read Intent or something I can see Villy wanting to use it.
Hotep Saxis
2024-12-11 21:16:12 +0000 UTCThat is what I mean. This is just the after math.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 21:13:50 +0000 UTCIt is a c-grade item, so I doubt it’s very useful to Villy. I think he is just curious about it since it’s so unique, it is an opportunity to learn something new he doesn’t already know, and at his level that is a rare and precious thing.
King Nereus
2024-12-11 21:10:49 +0000 UTCVilly said it was like what a child would get from their parent with a bloodline… its possible resurrected EH has the bloodline but is unable to pass it on to children due to it being passed on to the heart already. EDIT: Also in the past it was mentioned that the first child gets the most records and IIRC the biggest chance of getting a bloodline.
Bruce Sheplan
2024-12-11 21:09:55 +0000 UTCYeah, my take was that Jacob believes all of the troublemakers getting in his way will be fodder for Jake’s raiding party. Everyone gets what they want.
King Nereus
2024-12-11 21:08:43 +0000 UTCI just realized Jake can't learn anything about Villy's transcendence. Or at least, I knew that but thought transmuteing was a teachable skill. How long till Jake learns to make juice.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:58:23 +0000 UTCDid that crazy Aussie bastard make it in here somehow. lol
Rob Lyon
2024-12-11 20:57:24 +0000 UTCInteresting take, I like it!!
King Nereus
2024-12-11 20:56:26 +0000 UTCI don’t see the issue. We are only able to consume one chapter at a time, so speculating about what’s coming next is fun and keeps us all somewhat entertained while we wait.
King Nereus
2024-12-11 20:55:16 +0000 UTCThat would be a terrible bargain. The church leaving this one galaxy would just be a matter of short term convenience for Jake’s budding faction, it wouldn’t matter in the long run to either party. There’s way too many galaxies and all of them will likely become reachable (and vice versa) as the story evolves and native power levels rise. Meanwhile, the bloodline can be moved about the board, a needle in the haystack, once the universe opens up. Jake or even the wider multiverse may never be able to re-bottle the genie, so to speak.
King Nereus
2024-12-11 20:52:01 +0000 UTCThis is why only s-grads can be gods. C-grad gods are super eazy to kill.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:50:16 +0000 UTCThankfully palate is broken. Jake doesn't need his bloodline nerfed by EH's path.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:48:21 +0000 UTCDefinitely
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:46:42 +0000 UTCTrue-oul truol troll
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:43:56 +0000 UTCyep. like the lantern the holy church has. Their souls were never recycled. The question is, does their resurrection come without a significant negative cost to Jake or merely by items that are the spoils from other’s downfall?
Tony Breckenridge
2024-12-11 20:43:39 +0000 UTCVilly said don't eat it. I think it would fuck up his bloodline. Jake can't transmute things into juice. I'm a little disappointed that Jake can't learn this transcendent ability.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:42:50 +0000 UTCIf Jake could eliminate the threat of the bloodline so easily, and did so, then he wouldn’t have a reason to go murder hobo on anyone anymore.
King Nereus
2024-12-11 20:41:27 +0000 UTCone would think. there are a growing number of people who don’t get humor and sarcasm unless it’s prefaced.
Tony Breckenridge
2024-12-11 20:38:15 +0000 UTCExactly. Especially considering how Valdemar can’t get a “good fight” anymore.
Spencer Needler
2024-12-11 20:36:01 +0000 UTCI think the heart is more delusional. It will mean Ell'Hakan is likely to have kids without the self control. At least until the church helps him get his levels back.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:32:32 +0000 UTCThis series has always been kinda wordy like that I think. Seems like a pretty small thing to suddenly find annoying enough to comment about. If nothing else, it will at least help the voice actor with their inflections in the audiobook later. ;-)
King Nereus
2024-12-11 20:32:01 +0000 UTCYeah, once universe is opened, I've got to think they're going to get together.
Daniel Golding
2024-12-11 20:29:59 +0000 UTCWe always need more Duskleaf. He would be aghast at how Jake is advancing his profession - rituals, curses, and all that garbage. Only sweet sweet alchemy will satisfy Duskleaf, as it should be! Duskleaf's single mindedness is one of the best part of the series. Guy knows what he likes.
Daniel Golding
2024-12-11 20:28:48 +0000 UTCIntentional
King Nereus
2024-12-11 20:28:06 +0000 UTCWhy do you think gods can't get pregnant? Villy had a child after being a god and he said the holy mother has thousands of children
Sam
2024-12-11 20:28:01 +0000 UTCNatural treasures, advancement resources. He has a bunch of buddies who need to make the leap to B-Grade. I've got to think that's going to require some extra mojo.
Daniel Golding
2024-12-11 20:27:46 +0000 UTCDefinitely not giving up after 93 generations. We just saw the power of a dilution. Also saw why C-grads can become c-grad gods, gods can still die.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 20:27:25 +0000 UTCMiranda should be getting crazy levels (at least in profession) from all of this. I would have to believe she's getting close to 350 in profession after all the diplomacy, maneuvering, and now consolidating the win. Class probably lagging behind. Would be interesting to get her POV.
Daniel Golding
2024-12-11 20:26:01 +0000 UTCBecause it is apparent that is what villy was trying to do for all that time.
Sam
2024-12-11 20:22:28 +0000 UTC“On a fundamental level” Almost like a key part of his Truesoul (i.e. Bloodline) is anathema to EH’s. Doesn’t seem that outlandish to me 🤷
Wesley Clark
2024-12-11 20:06:25 +0000 UTCIt’s possible EH’s path was complicated by the inclusion of Yip’s Path, the records for which conflict and dilute his own. Might be why EH’s bloodline didn’t evolve at C-Grade, he was leaning into Yip’s Legacy instead of creating his own Path/Skills like Jake. Jake routinely makes choices against including certain skills in his kit to specifically limit the appearance of unappealing options. EH made poor choices and leaned into an inferior God’s Path that conflicts with the Primal Empath. Villy even says he’d have done better in the Dao Sect only manipulating his own emotions, doesn’t seem that far fetched….
Wesley Clark
2024-12-11 20:00:42 +0000 UTCMushroom that feeds on other peoples emotions sounds terrifying lmao
Matthew Lemon
2024-12-11 19:57:40 +0000 UTCNow we’re cooking. Mushrooms and hunger curse energy because why not 😂
Tommy
2024-12-11 19:56:16 +0000 UTCMay as well chuck mushrooms into the mix to make it even more of an abomination
Matthew Lemon
2024-12-11 19:54:29 +0000 UTCThe 'Primal Series' might come up later through Jake's kids, but it wouldn’t make sense for anyone else to have a primal bloodline. Both bloodlines could share the 'Primal' name, but there wouldn't be any connection between them as Jake and EH are the respective origins of each bloodline. Their conflict started when EH attacked Earth out of nowhere, and Jake, on a fundamental level, hates EH's bloodline.
Matthew Lemon
2024-12-11 19:51:38 +0000 UTCYeah maybe his bloodline will eat it, like a beast consumes a natural treasure
Shaibene
2024-12-11 19:36:39 +0000 UTCYou can only have one bloodline at a time. And you know how territorial his own is😅
Ray Light
2024-12-11 19:35:00 +0000 UTCToo many souls to claim in the galaxy
Ray Light
2024-12-11 19:32:27 +0000 UTCCurious, if he can combine the item with the ingredient Villy has for him give him a mega boost
Daniel Hamilton
2024-12-11 19:04:18 +0000 UTCIt’s not a thing, no. The Trueoul and Bloodline are one Needs to be fixed a true soul
Daniel Hamilton
2024-12-11 19:01:35 +0000 UTCEll’Hakan going full delulu Celestial Child mode. Don’t know if the deLulu is a typo or intentional
Daniel Hamilton
2024-12-11 19:00:33 +0000 UTCGood point and one that would be really cool. Especially since Villy said he had broken through the wall “thousands of times”, basically saying that he was much, much higher in realm than Yip of Yore could even dream
Alpheon
2024-12-11 18:57:50 +0000 UTCTo answer though I don’t think Villy came back just because of Jake’s recommendations for the future and because he made a friend considering the amount of time he’s spent trying to bring back his family. I think he saw something or learned something from Jake’s first visit that gave him hope to complete that goal, there’s just been to much foreshadowing for him to not try at some point. And Cheetohs bloodline is essentially “truth/reality through belief”, combine that with the insane power of a primordial belief and Alchemy prowess…. I could see a path
Azazel
2024-12-11 18:55:36 +0000 UTCPretty sure they’re sealed in Villy’s plane in the second obelisk based on Villy saying “soon” to it. However that was massively left open to interpretation and it could just be the equivalent of someone visiting a family members grave to talk to them but I prefer the former 😆
Azazel
2024-12-11 18:48:37 +0000 UTCVilly’s family has been dead for billions of years. Why do people think they’re getting revived?
Hotep Saxis
2024-12-11 18:44:00 +0000 UTCPretty sure Jake is getting tired of having his prey taken away, once was tolerable but twice? They either put up or pay up.
Alejandro Piña
2024-12-11 18:32:42 +0000 UTCProbably
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 18:09:01 +0000 UTCFingers crossed 🤞 both
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 18:04:14 +0000 UTCLol just a stray thought. How wicked would it be to mix the demon lord heart with the celestial heart making a super succubus lord with mental tricks.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 18:02:33 +0000 UTCWith all the talk in the yip of yore fight about empyrean steps I wonder if primordial isn’t so much a title for being a first god. But a level beyond gods
Spencer Needler
2024-12-11 17:59:08 +0000 UTCI like how Villy hents that if jake goes complete murder hobo the church would probably just chalk up the loss since villy didn't have any part of it.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 17:57:22 +0000 UTCI am really looking forward to the First Sage and soul flame!
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 17:54:35 +0000 UTCTFTC
Jose Reyna
2024-12-11 17:54:24 +0000 UTCThis is fun stuff but just FYI “the snake god said, semi-jokingly” isn’t needed. Stuff like that is evident from context, it really bogs it down…sorta like having the joke explained to you. Maybe this is just cuz hasn’t been run thru edit idk
Johnny
2024-12-11 17:14:03 +0000 UTCI'm looking forward to Jake going back to the order for some buddy buddy alchemy with Villy, getting a god level item to eat, soul flame stuff hopefully, and first sage shenanigans. Now I just wonder how the system event will end, will it end before they enter the seat of the exhaulted prima?
kingofshibainu
2024-12-11 17:08:26 +0000 UTCWow…. I may be reaching here but I could see a path to reviving Villy’s family or at least his kid with that item, some Alchemy and some crotchety old Duskleaf
Azazel
2024-12-11 17:04:02 +0000 UTCI hope he writes one.
MadMats17
2024-12-11 16:47:09 +0000 UTCTFTC! A good ol' inter-galactic kickback with Villy and Jake ❤️ Just missing some beer!
Vinstro
2024-12-11 16:37:03 +0000 UTCOne of my initial thoughts when Jacob took the true soul of EH, was that Jake would use the Celestial Heart and his Jake juice to resurrect EH himself. One he resurrected EH, immediately and finally kill him — leaving the church with nothing. (I assume a resurrection would recall whatever remnants of EH’s true soul Jacob stole). Then Jake would go on a rampage and wipe the church out while they still thought they had a chance of resurrecting EH.
Brian Stein
2024-12-11 16:31:47 +0000 UTCHe can have Villy acting all parent like by saying “should’ve wrapped it” or some bs like that
Cole Kerns
2024-12-11 16:27:56 +0000 UTCThanks Zogarth!
Kasey Lindenmayer
2024-12-11 16:27:52 +0000 UTCThat would be cool
Kasey Lindenmayer
2024-12-11 16:27:00 +0000 UTCThat, for sure. Also: soul cradle.
Arieh Sochaczevski
2024-12-11 16:25:34 +0000 UTCTrying to think of what the Holy Church could offer Jake, what if they offered to completely abandon the Milky Way Galaxy permanently? I could see Jake being at least a little tempted by that, it would make claiming the galaxy at lot easier for him, and he’d be happy to have the church gone for good.
Damian Karis
2024-12-11 16:24:26 +0000 UTCMy favorite are Villy's viewing party pov watching Jake's antics
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 16:13:32 +0000 UTCHAHA
Cole Kerns
2024-12-11 16:09:07 +0000 UTCThere is so many fun outcomes of that meeting. It would be hilarious if Jakes bloodline sees the system enforced "Gods cannot get pregnant restriction" as a challenge and overcomes it. Result: It outs his race, that Jake Juice works on enlightened races, and we get godly honeypots and/or bargaining for Jake the pregnancy assistant.
Devillelouch
2024-12-11 16:07:51 +0000 UTCThat fight in a recap will be funny.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 16:07:44 +0000 UTCThanks!
Trevor Mergen
2024-12-11 16:07:24 +0000 UTCI second that.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 16:05:48 +0000 UTC@spencer miller especially if he uses origin energy - bring it back to the primordial beginnings - the original celestial child!
Tommy
2024-12-11 16:04:04 +0000 UTCViridia, Duskleaf/Snappy, Artemis, Valhal, and Hells. EE might have been the faction most knowledgable of the non-primordials with the Beast Tribes also have a strong guess on the results.
Devillelouch
2024-12-11 15:59:05 +0000 UTCoh Grrreat...El hawktuah is a patreon
brjenness
2024-12-11 15:57:01 +0000 UTCI had the same thoughts. Jake actually won the item the church truly wants. Hopefully he tells no one else about his prize besides Villy and Jacob didn’t get a chance to see what it was before he captured the true soul in the lantern.
Ender419
2024-12-11 15:48:52 +0000 UTCLet’s also remember the first offspring of a bloodline patriarch or matriarch will have a higher percentage of inheriting the strongest effects of the parents bloodline. So even if the HC was to restore EH, he will have to sire hundreds if not thousands of weeds I mean seeds just for them to get the parts of the bloodline they what.
Ender419
2024-12-11 15:46:13 +0000 UTCHe consumes it and it allows him to read emotions with his sphere.
Psyck0
2024-12-11 15:44:02 +0000 UTCLol actually I'm re listening to HWFWM so that is probably exactly what I did
Andy Swearingen
2024-12-11 15:22:18 +0000 UTCGreat chapter! And, yay! Thx for settling more ridiculous rumors/speculations from fans who just don’t get Jake. 😎
ABTelford
2024-12-11 15:21:58 +0000 UTCIt will be the Christmas break cliffy…
Shafan Knight
2024-12-11 15:05:51 +0000 UTCAsano
Shafan Knight
2024-12-11 15:04:06 +0000 UTCBangers every day
Tanner Matone
2024-12-11 15:00:43 +0000 UTCI think Jake will use the star to evolve his bloodline into something truly monstrous. Being able to hack his own primal emotions
Shaibene
2024-12-11 14:54:27 +0000 UTCThe heart may be able to be used alchemically to make something that Jake could use to stimulate an upgrade to his own bloodline in the future.
Robert Warner
2024-12-11 14:54:06 +0000 UTCI doubt it. Primarily because he probably would have a much more simple path that way. Not something so complicated. Also, he didn't have a origin connection to Jake.
Numbzy
2024-12-11 14:52:57 +0000 UTCTftc
Frost1005
2024-12-11 14:51:36 +0000 UTCI need a Viridia intermission
Mat
2024-12-11 14:51:10 +0000 UTCMy guess? Using the heart to create a life will generate a real, honest-to-goodness incarnation of the “real” Celestial Child. It just makes too much sense, considering the item’s name and how EH deluded himself so hard he practically generated the records that the real Celestial Child would have.
Spencer Miller
2024-12-11 14:49:00 +0000 UTCThankies for the chapie zogie
Phasmatic7
2024-12-11 14:47:33 +0000 UTCI like to think EH’s bloodline is part of the “Primal Series” hence their inevitable clash with the Primal Hunter. Could be something like “Bloodline Patriarch: Bloodline of the Primal Empath”
Wesley Clark
2024-12-11 14:41:34 +0000 UTCThe a team from earth will go suit up jump into the sandy van and smash some holy people. All the while epic background music is being played by a c grade minaga. As said by Bertram it's a faction in the church looking to further their goals. And as said by villy it's highly unlikely that godly intervention will happen. And I find it also unlikely that Jake will leave Jacob hanging and take a deal. As Jacob kinda set the church up. My guess is he wants to be the one who said again and again I told you so and gain more freedom and less oversight that way.
Gwiddion
2024-12-11 14:36:29 +0000 UTCCheers Zogarth
Rewdan
2024-12-11 14:34:46 +0000 UTCI’m just excited for Jake x Artemis
Cole Kerns
2024-12-11 14:32:03 +0000 UTCAnticipation
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 14:18:24 +0000 UTCYou think it would see Jake as Daddy? That just sounds like a fun fight.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 14:09:12 +0000 UTCWell... Villy is evil on our moral compass. He would definitely transmute it to something beneficial for himself, but we are way past the point of worrying over sth like that where the system got bent over backwards without breaking, which is probably the real part of interest to him. Gods like Records, Villy is no different.
SmokeJam
2024-12-11 14:07:45 +0000 UTCThe Viper wants a look at it. Then Jake can forget it.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 14:07:33 +0000 UTCI honestly don't believe that Desolate Child is healable. Villy made it sound like standard practise to send Valhals Runemaiden after False Gods, I don't think those fine ladies spent much thought or time on non-violent approaches.
SmokeJam
2024-12-11 14:03:41 +0000 UTCThey are my favorite as well. Honestly my favorite way someone's decided to dump exposition. It's genius. Villy is a primordial meaning he has more experience in the multiverse than anyone other than his 11 "siblings" probably more due to his bloodline not allowing him to forget anything. He's a perfect narrator for jake
Nexas Aurelias
2024-12-11 13:58:20 +0000 UTCThere is that Desolate Child running around…if it only had a heart…
Govir Drauka
2024-12-11 13:56:47 +0000 UTCWhile an enjoyable tangent, I do not think this will be possible. On the one hand Jake seems to hate everything about this bloodline with a quite understandable passion, on the other hand though I think his own bloodline would revolt. Pride and providence were the first thing his bloodline did by literally stealing part of the Blessing, a True Blessing no less. Trying to expand it with foreign material seems like a good way to drive it completely bonkers again as it is of Primal Origin and even his human race is higher than any normal (no race evolution requirements until now unlike all other people around him). I actually believe the Heart will be an item forgotten for many chapters until Jake is firmly in B-Grade and wants to craft something insane.
SmokeJam
2024-12-11 13:52:09 +0000 UTCDivine Approval is something far less than Divine Intervention. Ofc somebody asked some god and they gave the green light because they probably want that bloodline in their faction or even for themselves somehow, but the whole process of actually obtaining it, is most likely left to the mortals. I do expect the Desolate Child and maybe even a B-Grade (if they managed to smuggle one in before the event?) to show up, so that's gonna be fun. Anyhow, the last sentence makes it pretty much clear how Jake wants to approach it. Invade, demand EH Truesoul and if he doesn't get it, apply more force.
SmokeJam
2024-12-11 13:45:51 +0000 UTCTftc
Beemoss
2024-12-11 13:40:53 +0000 UTCYou are pure evil.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:35:26 +0000 UTCFeels good. My most sincere thanks for the chapter. Can't wait to read it in a recap.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:33:17 +0000 UTCUse the heart from EH with origin energy to create a new being! One that sees Jake as Daddy 👏👏👏
Tommy
2024-12-11 13:31:02 +0000 UTCwe dont have to worry about a jake villy fight till jake passes god hood and starts up the steps of asenton
Steven Tuttle
2024-12-11 13:29:31 +0000 UTCTroll trueoul
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:29:02 +0000 UTCMe too. I vote plague, or let Miranda kill the whole bloodline with some tipe of witch craft..
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:27:52 +0000 UTCTftc
Paulo Furlaneto
2024-12-11 13:26:15 +0000 UTCThx
Profile Name
2024-12-11 13:24:45 +0000 UTCVesperia? Not Jacob. Eazy mistake to make he is an insect. Or did you mean Friday the 13th sworm of butchery. I can't wait to see that movie.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:22:37 +0000 UTCPerv. Save me a seat.
Samuel Nelson
2024-12-11 13:21:09 +0000 UTCThey yern to see each other. I like to watch.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:18:52 +0000 UTCIt feels like it's over. Ell'Hakan is going to be come back with brain damage, or record damage.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:17:26 +0000 UTCVilly could tell Jake wants to destroy it.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-11 13:15:53 +0000 UTCThis is the stuff! Thank you.
Nate Slusher
2024-12-11 13:12:58 +0000 UTCI just don't know how you could possibly think we'll get that next chapter. There's wishful thinking and then there's what you're doing. It'll be Next weeks Friday cliff at the earliest.
doctordirt
2024-12-11 13:12:50 +0000 UTCI’m quite sure Zogarth is going to milk this level and we won’t be seeing the ‘DING’ until the holy church thing is wrapped up
Sal
2024-12-11 13:08:45 +0000 UTCTFTC
Sailesh Kumar Kumar
2024-12-11 13:08:35 +0000 UTCTftc. Ha sounds almost like the system gave away the heart so Cheeto couldn't pass on his bloodline. I know it's not that, but how Villy described it at one point made my mind wander and got off track. How funny would it be if the church actually resurrected Cheeto only to find that Cheeto's path is so busted he is just worthless not even able to be sacrificed AND he would be unable to pass on the bloodline. Had me laughing at the thought. I truly hated Cheeto all around. Good writing there Zog.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-11 13:01:55 +0000 UTCWho is Jason?
Lars de Tombe
2024-12-11 13:01:38 +0000 UTCI chuckled when I read that part. Villy knows how Jake is. Hilarious
Cory Sauls
2024-12-11 12:58:56 +0000 UTCHe always puts mana into it. It's just never explicity stated because its not relevant to mention at the monment. It's similar to how we know in our minds as readers that most characters have normal daily lives, eat, shower, go to work, etc. But, it's not neccesary to state it all the time. It's just kind of "understood." Also, not bringing it up often leads people forgetting about it, which makes it feel that much more rewarding when he eventually does put it to use.
Blaq Jesus
2024-12-11 12:57:32 +0000 UTCI always enjoy the villy chapters. I believe it's having the omniscient narrator angle but with a bit of being a jerk twist. We get a little background info without spoilers. It's nice. I wonder what happened to the desolate child of loss
Lonnie
2024-12-11 12:55:17 +0000 UTCHe's probably doing it in the background I bet His arcane soul flame will pop back up whenever it's time for it in the story
doob
2024-12-11 12:52:32 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter!
Kt-x
2024-12-11 12:51:49 +0000 UTCTyftc! How will Jake address the holy church now? Didn’t Jacob say that all this had to have divine approval, or something like that? Also, we are so close to the meeting with the first sage!
Andromeda Adams
2024-12-11 12:49:48 +0000 UTCTyftc!
Justin Moen
2024-12-11 12:49:28 +0000 UTCOne more level he need to be 300 to get 5 embarrassing viper history tokens which the boots hinted he needed
frankie doerr
2024-12-11 12:46:25 +0000 UTCGetting some seriously bad vibes from Villy’s interest in the heart. That thing is dangerous and in the hands of a primordial would be even more so.
Hotep Saxis
2024-12-11 12:46:17 +0000 UTCThe Celestial Heart holding some aspects of Ell'Hakan's bloodline gives me an idea. If Jake puts in some Jake Juice, could it turn into a unique item that would actually allow him to grant the Bloodline to someone or, if he got what remains of Ell'Hakan's truesoul, could he somehow use his Jake Juice to really bring the orange bastard back? I can at least see him maybe doing something along the lines of using it on the Heart to somehow bring back Ell'Hakan's real bloodline. He is the origin of that Bloodline so if the Heart is somehow altered due to this like the Viper said, Jake can just turn it back and maybe get aspects of it. Would love to see Villy and Jake do a dual alchemy session to give him some aspects of the bloodline like maybe emotion reading but not manipulation. Would really scale well with his other detection stuff.
A. B. Edwards
2024-12-11 12:45:57 +0000 UTCAt least. He first learned about soulflames in book 6 chapter 72: Mysterious Senior
Hotep Saxis
2024-12-11 12:43:04 +0000 UTCTime for the meeting with the Shadow Empress of the Milky Way Galaxy. Bloodline alchemy does sound fun.
Devillelouch
2024-12-11 12:42:59 +0000 UTCIn December 2023, Zogarth maintained his usual schedule of releasing five chapters per week on Patreon. However, he announced a break on December 25th and 26th, as well as January 1st, resulting in a slightly reduced number of chapters during that period. According to chat gpt
Skarpi
2024-12-11 12:41:25 +0000 UTCTftc
Staudi
2024-12-11 12:40:02 +0000 UTCI want to see it before you fuck it up. Fair.
Canis
2024-12-11 12:39:11 +0000 UTCTftc
William Morrow
2024-12-11 12:38:08 +0000 UTCTFTC this was very refreshing having the buddy chat between the two.
Alejandro Piña
2024-12-11 12:38:07 +0000 UTCA little bit over actually. He got the cradle in chapter 711. So 328 chapters now since then and still no soulflame
Exodus Uno
2024-12-11 12:38:05 +0000 UTCI love how Villy and Jake are using these items as an excuse to want to see each other again.
Samuel Nelson
2024-12-11 12:37:27 +0000 UTCI did doubt bertruim's statement that the church valued el's blood line as much as the endless valued Jason's. Nice to see that verified. Tftc
Andy Swearingen
2024-12-11 12:36:51 +0000 UTCOne more level needed in his profession he's still 299
Skarpi
2024-12-11 12:36:32 +0000 UTCYou spelled true soul wrong…trueoul great chapter!
Jeff
2024-12-11 12:36:01 +0000 UTCHe's one level away in his profession to meet the First Sage. So that'll be coming up soon
Skarpi
2024-12-11 12:36:00 +0000 UTCHas it actually been 300 chapters?? Chat is that real?
Asher Mack
2024-12-11 12:35:04 +0000 UTCTftc
Matthias
2024-12-11 12:32:26 +0000 UTCI can't wait to see what they do with the heart. Such an interesting item
Rick Delallata
2024-12-11 12:31:35 +0000 UTCTyfc, small typo 'Truesoul' is spelt wrong near the end "The Trueoul and Bloodline are one. You cannot scrape off..."
Jonathan Venn
2024-12-11 12:31:13 +0000 UTCSo next up. Go wreck a sub faction of the church. Then it's time for the grind again?
Gavin
2024-12-11 12:30:41 +0000 UTCHopefully next chapter we go see the first sage, or does Jake still need more lvls?
Noah Mclelland
2024-12-11 12:30:38 +0000 UTCTyftc
Noah Mclelland
2024-12-11 12:29:56 +0000 UTCNice thank you for the chapter
joel southard
2024-12-11 12:27:32 +0000 UTCI can't wait for another order arc. Hopefully Jake can get his Arcane soulflame by then. It's been like 300 or so chapters and I really want to see what it can do. Also, has he been putting mana into the cradle at all recently or has he just forgotten about it? I forgot if that was mentioned at all in recent chapters
Exodus Uno
2024-12-11 12:27:03 +0000 UTCTFTC
Niko Desgagnes
2024-12-11 12:25:49 +0000 UTCGood chapter. Thanks!
Naotsugu97
2024-12-11 12:25:09 +0000 UTCTyftc. Any plans for Christmas wondering how your publishing schedule will be impacted.
Profile Name
2024-12-11 12:24:23 +0000 UTCTyftc
Danny Bagley
2024-12-11 12:22:05 +0000 UTCTyftc!!
A Flashy BR
2024-12-11 12:17:17 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
Connor
2024-12-11 12:16:18 +0000 UTC