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[CLOSED] The Harry Potter Book Club! - Your Notes for Chapters 8 & 9 of The Goblet of Fire!
Added 2023-11-01 15:36:39 +0000 UTCTHIS PART OF THE BOOK CLUB IS NOW COMPLETE! Thank you all so much for taking part! :)
PLEASE NOTE! - Hi guys, just want to ask, please do try and keep your comments to an ok length! I know you want to cover everything, but keeping them shorter / to the point gives me more time to respond to them! :)
Here is a chance to get your comment read out in the next Book review video!
If you are reading along with the reviews, we are covering chapters "The Quidditch World Cup" & "The Dark Mark"! So if you have any thoughts, opinions, comparisons or questions regarding these, please leave a comment below!
I do have to ask, try to keep them fairly short, like 4 or 5 sentences. That way I can cover more when making the video. Also try to keep them on subject and not referencing anything that we are yet to cover. Ideally, keep it to 1 comment each if you can (if you have more to say after commenting, you can edit it and add to it! :) ). These are just rough guidelines rather than rules, I want to be able to fit in as many of you as possible! :)
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Comments
Hi veggie I’ve been following your Harry Potter journey on YouTube since the beginning but I just recently joined Patreon and I just wanted to say thank you for making these videos I absolutely adore listening to your takes on my favorite book series. One interesting fact about goblet of fire and the reason I think the book to movie adaptation is particularly bad with this book is the director of the movie has said he didn’t even read the book before directing the movie and that’s why there were so many changes
Tj Duckworth
2023-11-24 16:04:47 +0000 UTCI don't have anything to say except I love these chapters (Winky especially) and I can finally play Hogwarts Legacy on the switch!!! It's everything I hoped for! Hope you are well Veggie
rreowenn
2023-11-23 15:09:25 +0000 UTCI’ve been waiting for Winky! She strikes me as a Veggie character. ^_^
Triene (Katie)
2023-11-23 06:21:09 +0000 UTCHey Veggie Such great chapters and almost everything was cut or drastically changed in the movies. There are so many interesting and new topics to discuss in these chapters can't wait to hear your thoughts. Chapter 8: The build up to the world cup was so great but I feel ripped off every time i watch the movie when they blatantly don't show the game. Chapter 9: This is another case of grown wizards not believing what the trio has to say, that the voice was human. Poor poor WInky. I feel so bad for her.
Carmen
2023-11-21 03:20:04 +0000 UTCI love little comedy moments in chapter 8 like referee being "healed" by kick in the shin by mediwizard or Bulgarian minister actually speaking English ;)
Mordimer
2023-11-21 01:38:03 +0000 UTCodd take on what happened to Mrs Roberts. it is by no means a "harmless prank", but it is also not "one of most discussed moments". at least by my definition to be "one of most" it would need to make top 5. "appropriate punishment" = a fine or whatever anyone gets for "muggle baiting" as Mr. Weasley calls it and put on a permanent watch list. watch list is not for what they did but for them identifying themselves as Death Eaters. -whatever punishment you give for hanging someone in the air you need to give Harry and from what Lupin or Sirius (do not remember witch) to many of the kind at school with them. there was a few you could not walk down the hall without being lifted by you ankle. -at least if you want the punishment to be fair. If I were in Mrs Roberts position first they would need to give me my memory back. i suspect this is why some people thing it was a "harmless prank" there is no physical damage and the Roberts do not know it happened. from that standpoint i see where they are coming from (i do not agree with them). the problem is the president it sets in the wizard world. if i got my memory back i would think wizards ran there society on the might makes right model, and i would be correct. who ever stated the Death Eaters where the good guys? even when the Death Eaters where in charge of the government most wizards did not think they where the "good guys" they where just the guys in power. i suggest removing the last line. the question is fine, but should not hint at the impact on things to come.
Garfnob
2023-11-20 18:05:05 +0000 UTCI have been dreading the moment when we arrive to chapter 9. It's one of my least favorite in the saga and I usually skip it when re-reading HP for leasure. Not because I think it's a bad chapter - on the contrary, I think it's brilliantly written. It's just... what happens to the Roberts family (especially the wife) makes me sick to my stomach and not necessarily just in a figurative sense. For me personally ch. 9 marks the point where HP definitely stops being a children's series. I know there have already been some very dark moments - the murders at Riddle manor - the twins choking Dudley, which was messed up - but ch. 9 cements it for me. You're fairly new to the fandom so you probably don't know it, but what happened to Mrs Roberts is one of most discussed moments in the series. A part of the fandom - and it's not a small part by any means - believes that it was just a "harmless prank". That's a pov that is just unfathomable to me. What is your opinion on this? If you were in Mrs Roberts' place and someone told you that the people who did these things to you were actually "the good guys" and the people who fight against them were actually "the bad guys", would you believe them? Or would you believe the exact opposite? The culprits were not caught. If they had been, what would have been an appropriate punishment in your opinion? Finally, Mr. Weasley said that finding your loved one dead is "everyone's worst fear". How come it wasn't anybody's worst fear in the last book, then? I have an opinion on this but I'll save it for the next book club (if that's ok) since this comment is already too long.
Hawwah
2023-11-20 16:20:00 +0000 UTCHey veggie Two really great chapters but also two really different chapters from one another. ‘The quidditch work cup’ is a really fun and uplifting chapter and ‘the dark mark’ chapter is really intense and shows the terror that voldermort brings the adults. I find it strange that Ron doesn’t understand the seriousness of the dark mark. ‘Why was everyone so uptight about that skull thing?’ He is usually the go too for information on the wizarding world having grown up in a family effected by the last war Voldemort caused. You would expect it from Harry to say something like that. Maybe the fear of seeing the dark mark above their house makes it tough to speak about even years on from that first wizarding war.
Logan
2023-11-19 23:38:35 +0000 UTC"could someone please tell Hermione to stick her tongue back in" - that was a movie thing. she shows little interest in Krum at this point in the book. one mention that Krum was brave, and that comment makes no sense. see my reply to H for my opinion on that.
Garfnob
2023-11-18 21:36:32 +0000 UTC“Boy, that escalated quickly." First point is why would a broom need an anti burglar buzzer surely a charm that curse's the non designated flyer would make more sense. First chapter and already another new book only character and the veela ....well you'll see, probably best that the leprechaun's weren't in the film as their penchant for using Warwick Davis for the short roles would a have created a very unlikely film crossover. The description of quidditch always makes it sound like football on broom's but the world cup match makes you realise it's more like rugby in air, also could someone please tell Hermione to stick her tongue back in. The dark mark chapter is probably better at showing the death eaters as an actual threat compared any scene in any of the films and I loathe the films costume choice for them, look a black clad KKK I'm surprised they didn't put SS badges on them for good measure, and I wonder what crouch was looking for Well it's going to be fun getting to the end of this book this time next year.
Simon audsley
2023-11-18 13:01:06 +0000 UTCbut how was Krum brave? he flu in a game. something he has done countless times. ok, he is a skilled flyer so he can get closer to things without crashing. that is not brave that is knowing where your limits are.
Garfnob
2023-11-18 12:56:12 +0000 UTCHi Veggie! "He was very brave, wasn't he" said Hermione about Krum. She clearly really values bravery. That might explain why the sorting hat put her in Gryffindor (and why Harry is her best friend). The anxiety everyone is feeling after the dark mark appears is so well written. I love how Mr. Weasley ends up getting the role of being the "grown-up" even in that situation, surrounded by other grown-ups. I also really like when it's really heated between Amos Diggory and Barty Crouch. Arthur's description of the dark mark, and why it's so feared, is also very good. It didn't really have the same impact in the movie. I've said it before, but i REALLY dislike what they did with this movie. It's got some brilliant parts too, but the fact they turned what basically was like a crime novel into a story where they actively did a spoiler or two at the start... it's just weird.
H
2023-11-18 01:29:31 +0000 UTCSome major deviations from actual plot points in the movies here! -- Why did they show the person conjuring the Dark Mark? I can't wrap my head around the changes to that scene and the Riddle house sequence. Some changes I can understand even if I don't like them, but the way they just show you who's responsible from the start in the movies is completely nonsensical. - Overall, the whole Dark Mark chapter in the book is so much more suspenseful and scary than the movies show. The movies captured the chaos okay, but there's no sense of what the threat actually is or how it connects to the plot! Anyway, I'm sure I'll rant about the movies plenty in the future, so I'll end this on a more positive note: I love every bit of conversation between the Weasleys, Harry, and Hermione. Even if it's not always the nicest conversation, it's always fascinating to examine their dynamics!
Q
2023-11-16 21:44:00 +0000 UTC
