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Buffy Fridays (on a Sunday)! Season 2 Episode 21 First Time Reaction!

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What a great set up for the next episode!! Feel bad for Kendra, I expected her to come back eventually but she sure didn't last long. :(

LOVED all the flashbacks in this one!  They were surprisingly well done and fill in a lot of info!

AND THEY FIND THE BLOOMIN' DISK!! (I Nearly pull a muscle in my back).

Love you guys!! Hope you are having a great Sunday!

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Buffy Fridays (on a Sunday)! Season 2 Episode 21 First Time Reaction!

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Thank you so much! I agree with you. Xander is out of line and biased since he hasn't liked Angel from the beginning, but I know others view it differently, which is okay. Xander is still a great character, but his main flaw is his jealousy and sometimes he can be immature. Thank you for this. Kendra will be missed!

Grace

Setting aside all the Xander hate an argument for killing Angel is that if you restore his soul you still have a chance that he will lose it again and if no Slayer is right there to take him down how many more people will now have to die instead of just killing Angel now while you can. As long as Angel lives he is like an armed nuclear weapon walking around just waiting to go off. The argument of what he has or hasn't done doesn't really matter as much as the threat of what he is and may do.

Stephen Knueppel

Just wanted to show my appreciation for the excellent point you're making here. Xander didn't kill anyone (RIP Herbert) but could easily have done if he'd been with the others when they ate Flutie. And even if we put that aside, the fact remains that restoring Angel's soul isn't just a matter of whether Buffy and the Scoobies want to do it on an emotional level. At the point they were having that discussion, it could also be a question of giving her a tactical advantage in the battle to come. Nevermind that restoring his soul is also the worst form of punishment as deemed by the people who raised the woman (Jenny) whose death he invokes as the reason they shouldn't do it.

Frederique Gillespie

Well, they added Crimes of Grindlewald back to my streaming service so that put a smile on my face. I swap over to buffy and if i'm not mistaken, i got a namedrop <3 What a smile fest tonight was :)

Shiby23

Xander is completely out of line. Remember, no one blamed him for all the bad things he did while possessed by the hyena, so why should Angel be blamed for what Angelus did when he had no control over losing his soul? (That's a dumb curse by the way, why even make it so he can lose his soul again in the first place?) Anyway, by Xander's logic, the group should have just killed Xander while the hyena spirit was making him do bad things instead of performing the ritual to get the hyena out. But they didn't. They group realized that good Xander wasn't to blame for what hyena Xander did, so they returned his humanity and forgave him no questions asked. I'd understand Xander calling for Angelus's death if they hadn't found the restoration spell yet, but him saying he should still die knowing full well there's a good chance that they can return Angel's soul is complete crap. What a piece of ****** ******* ************** ! (And yes, I do kiss my mother with this mouth ;) )

Amanda S

I agree with you on Xander, I find him to be annoying a lot of the time.

Michael Short

I haven't seen anyone say this so far, but if I'm wrong, disregard: That was actually Whistler doing the narration on this episode, but the tone is very similar to Angel's narration in Passion. Also I am with you about Xander. It's not even just him being jealous and therefore out of line - it's him being so cavalier about Ms. Calendar's murder right in front of Giles. He has zero respect for anyone's trauma but his own, and while he is a teenage boy, that can only excuse so much.

Tommy Ross

Possibly my favorite moment: "The fact that she had the visions before... I really didn't see that coming."

Tommy Ross

I love your chaotic energy this week, you should be tizzy more often πŸ˜‚ Shame you didn't manage to make it this Friday, was SMG's birthday! Go Fish isn't the same game by the way. Go Fish involves stealing cards from your opponents. Snap involves slapping them.

Jake M

Also, now you got Buffy's origin story, at least a glimpse but without the burning down of the gym. The film is separate from the series and has a completely different vibe to it. Not that you shouldn't watch it! It just won't answer too many questions for you. You could think of it as an alternate version of the story. :) It's fun in its own way. It won't give any spoilers for the series, either. You can watch it whenever you're in the mood to go for it. You may want to watch 2-parters as one whole long show in future, LOL! It's gotta be tough to wait on the ending. :p

RavenLord

Hoo, boy, my thoughts on the soul restoration and Angel/Angelus. There is a lot to unpack, and I tend to get wordy, but I'll attempt to keep it relatively concise. We have the human, whose name wasn't revealed yet, so I'll call him Pre-Angel so as to avoid a small spoiler. (Not that Angel's mortal name is much of a spoiler, LOL.) We have Angel. And we have Angelus. In my mind, I've always thought of Pre-Angel as dead and gone, and Angel/Angelus as the same person separate from Pre-Angel. Unlike demon possession where the human is still in there somewhere and alive, when a demon infects the host body to make a vampire, the human dies and the soul departs. So Pre-Angel dies and now we have Angelus. He has the memories and the darkest parts of Pre-Angel's personality, which we saw a glimpse of as not an outstanding citizen. Roughly a century later, enter the curse. It takes Pre-Angel's soul and stuffs it into the demon Angelus. Now it is sort of the opposite of demon possession, as the demon is alive in there, but the soul is in charge and tormenting the demon with a conscience and remorse. It is still Angelus, but now he is possessed with a soul and calls himself Angel as maybe an attempt to distance himself from the horrible things he did. But these ARE things that Angel did. Pre-Angel is still dead and long gone. The soul inflicts pain and a human conscience but does not change the fact that Angel/Angelus is the same person, the same demon. So, while Xander was a brat and an arse and obnoxious, I can understand his point of view. He sees Angel/Angelus as the same person. It's like if a human got blackout drunk and murdered someone, are they not to be held accountable when they sober up because the thing that lead to the heinous act (the alcohol in this case) is no longer a factor? No, they are held accountable and have to pay for their crime(s). But there is where I now disagree with Xander, along with his awful comments that seriously crossed lines. Angel SHOULD have the soul restored because that would be his punishment, his imprisonment for the crimes he committed. A human goes to prison for murder, and the soul will put the demon part of Angel/Angelus into a prison of a different kind. It is justice, in my mind. The idea of Buffy then rekindling a romance with him, however, is actually abhorrent to me after what he has done; I would think less of her if she were to take him back even with the soul. I think that's where I see Xander's point of view again; he thinks that's what Buffy wants, to forgive a demon for what he's done and go back to how it was before. And yep, Drusilla has always had the visions! That's probably what intrigued Angelus about her in the beginning. But I'll say no more, because as the series goes on, many questions will be answered. Yes, that was Darla, and they did show how a vampire is created. Simply draining their blood is not enough; they have to drink vampiric blood when they are near the point of death. Then they die, are usually buried (not always), and return as the demon the following night. SCORE 9/10, would be 10 if the accent had been authentic, LOL.

RavenLord


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