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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - The Chamber of Secrets Chapters 14, 15 & 16!

Hi guys! Settle in! We hit (just under) 3 hours in this one! XD Thank you all for the amazing Book Club comments, we definitely had a lot to discuss in these 3 chapters!

I also get a chance to do a short tribute to Robbie Coltrane here, sorry if it is a bit waffle-y, and thank you all for the amazing Community page comments over on Youtube.

Next stop, the end of Chamber of Secrets! This book has been a blast to check out!

Love you guys!

As always, thanks Max for providing the chapter summaries!

Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - The Chamber of Secrets Chapters 14, 15 & 16!

Comments

This wasn‘t mentioned in the book club or your thoughts on the chapter (I don‘t know if someone has mentioned it in the comments after listening though) My main question in this part has always been- Why does McGonagall know that it‘s Ginny who has been taken? The message only refers to „her“ and doesn’t mention a name. She follows the announcement in the staff room with the order for the heads of house to check that every other student is safe in their common rooms. So how does she know who was taken to the chamber if no one has yet checked who‘s there and who‘s missing. That‘s always confused and bothered me.

Regina

I first saw Robbie Coltrane in Harry Potter, but I have a few years ago, watched a sketch comedy show called Alfresco from the 80s? It started Stephen Fry, Hugh Laurie, Emma Thompson, Ben Elton and Robbie Coltrane. It was really great

Dafydd

While reading try to not think about characters from the movies. Draco and Snape for example are very whitewashed in the movies, in the books they are way different, so if you think that Draco don't think what he says, I feel like you have picture of Draco who is redeemable character because of Tom Felton and generally of because what movies done to his character.

Mordimer

I still remember when I was first told by a friend that they thought Ginny walked in on Percy masturbating (when I first read these books, I was too young to even know what that was). I reacted with horror as if they had the most filthy mind. Then I reread it and... yeah, it definitely sounds like that... the author (who must not be named because gross) must have realized that was going to be how older people would take that.

Tommy Ross

To be fair, 2/4 of the common rooms require a password and those two also happen to be the only ones that have been shown in the books thus far (and the other two weren't shown in the movies). Pretty sure at this point JK Rowling thought all the common rooms required passwords too, and it wasn't until later that she decided the other two common rooms would have other "password" methods.

Xeph

Hermione, you're a sausage right

Raider Max

I always saw a hole in the wall in my head whenever they mentioned the portrait hole. I mean, I saw it as a nice, paved, purposeful hole, but a hole nonetheless. I was always so confused why they changed it in the movies. Maybe for ease of filming?

itsanursething

Oh and: Dobby is a free sausage!

Diego Zenhäusern

To your question about Fudge: I don't think either, that he really thinks Hagrid is the culprit. He ust wants to be seen doing something. Which, to be honest, actually makes it worse to me. Since now he's not just throwing someone into prison he falsely suspects but someone he beliefs to be innocent.🤔 I never realized how the tone of Snape and McGonagall mocking Lockhart was kinda of in the movie🙈...probably because I knew Ginny was OK and so I wasn't worried about her/ felt any tension about the situation?😅 Also: Yeah, just keep telling yourself the mandrakes are just normal plants that were bewitched and not sentient creatures that are going to be horribly murdered🙃😅

Diego Zenhäusern

Lol, that just makes no sense...why should you only be allowed to "learn" a language when you're probably already pretty fluent in it or know at least a bit of it?😅 I mean the idea of a school is that you learn stuff, so why wouldn't they allow you to learn🙈😂

Diego Zenhäusern

You know, I've read the books probably nearly 10 times by now and I NEVER realized that. I mean I read "climbing through the portrait hole" but my brain somehow just brushed off the implications of that sentence😅🙈

Diego Zenhäusern

You're a sausage Harry. She needs to sort out her sausages. *from HBP movie* Slughorn: What's wrong with Wembly? Harry *whispers*: Very powerful love sausage.

itsanursething

It's interesting how you brought up students born into muggle familys taking muggle studies and how that shouldn't really be allowed. It reminds me of my highschool. Wanted to take Russian? You had to be Russian/have Russian relatives. Same with Chinese and I wanna say German? The only languages open to anyone was Spanish, Italian and French. It was annoying. These students got easy A's in their class for being fluent since childhood while others had to actually study and learn an entire language. Also, about Harry not telling McGonagle. At this point hes 12. He doesn't really trust anyone. Not even Dumbledore to some extent. Once he's down in the chamber does he really truly believe in Dumbledore and its THAT moment that calls Phoenix to his aid. Only once he fully has loyalty to Dumbledore. I still suggest once you finish the books, watch the Super Carlin Brothers "Dumbledores Plan" series. They actually go over that.

Kunzite Blossom

Yes, the portrait hole in the books is definitely something off the ground you need to climb through. It will come up as a fun little detail in some minor subplot in later books - you can watch out for that (hope this doesn't count as a spoiler!) I think this was invented by JK in the first book to make Hogwarts seem even more magical and fun and exciting - climbing through a secret hole in a wall behind a portrait is something that 11 year old kids would find awesome - it evokes secret bunkers, forts or other hide-outs. At least that was my impression. Then I got so used to the idea that I didn't question it in the later books when students are much older -to them it must have seemed silly rather than exciting by then.

Katik

Oh, interesting that you think that you need a password for the other common rooms too... 😉 but maybe each common roomhas its own mechanism. And for the portrait hole: yes they are always „climbing“ through it in the books. That's why I think that behind the picture it does not continue at ground level but that there is a larger ledge...seems very uncomfortable but maybe no problem for the children. In the first movie they also taking a view steps when they climbing behind percy into the common room…so i think the movies had a god solution. I couldnt imagine it as a „portrait hole“ either.

Caroline


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