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The Delta Flyers - DS9 Second Skin 305 Audio

The Delta Flyers is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, Terry Farrell & Armin Shimerman. In each podcast release, they will recap and discuss an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. 

This week’s episode, Second Skin, is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, & Terry Farrell. With a special guest interview with Nana Visitor in the bonus material!

Second Skin: Kira is kidnapped by the Cardassians, who try to convince her that she is really one of them.

We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Production Managers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeill.

Additionally, we could not make this podcast available without our Executive Producers:
Stephanie Baker, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Kris Hansen, Chris Knapp, Janet K Harlow, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, Mike Gu, Tara Polen, Carrie Roberts, Tom Paynter, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Lisa Robinson, Alex Mednis, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Roxane Ray, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Tim Neumark, Randy Hawke, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Jonathan Brooks, Matt Norris, Izzy Jaffer, Jan Hanford, Francesca Garibaldi, Thomas Irvin, Jonathan Capps, & Sean T.

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Liz Scott, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Elaine Ferguson, Captain Jeremiah Brown, E & John, Deike Hoffmann, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Lee Lisle, Sarah Thompson, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Mark G Hamilton, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Mary Burch, Sandra Stengel, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Elizabeth Stanton, Tim Beach, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Tae Phoenix, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Danie Crofoot, Steve Lugo, Rob Traverse, Penny Liu, Stephanie Lee, David Smith, Stacy Davis, Heath K., Andrew Cano, Kevin Harlow, & Hailey L.

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Philipp Havrilla, James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Jake Barrett, Ann Harding, Trip Lives, Samantha Weddle, Paul Johnston, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Chad Awkerman, AJ Provance, Claire Deans, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Heidi McLellan, Brianna Kloss, Dat Cao, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Alexander Ray, Vikki Williams, Cindy Ring, Alicia Kulp, Kelly Brown, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Shanyn Behn, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Dominique Weidle, Justin Weir, Jesse Bailey, Mike Chow, Matt Edmonds, Miki T, Heather Selig, Crystal Powell, Rachel Shapiro, Stephanie Aves, Seth Carlson, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Annie Davey, Mark Lacey, Jeremy Gaskin, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Carmen Puente, Greg Kenzo Wickstrom, Lauren Rivers, Jennifer B, Dean Chew, Robert Allen Stifflerf, PJ Pick, Preston M, Rebecca Leary, Ryan Mahieu, Karen Galleski, Zackery Voss, Loretta Reyes, Timothy McMichens, Dawn Colleen Smith, Cassandra Girard, Andrea Wilson, Willow Whitcomb, Mo, Leslie Ford, & Douglas Lawrence-Plant, Daniel Chu, Scott Bowling, Ed Jarot, James Vanhaerent, Nick Cook-West, & Oscar Fernandez

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This is one of my least favorite episodes because of all the questions that Robbie brought up, and others. Am I the only one to think that Kira would have doubted the surgery at the very beginning? Like pull on the neck and the forehead to make sure that they were real? I know because they were NOT real that Nana couldn't do this, but as a character I thought Kira would have been more vehemently in denial. Like, people who wake up after surgery reach for their missing leg or altered face or whatever. This episode just always felt like "dress up" rather than serious. Plus, as I think Garrett said, this was a LOT of work to do to try to get at the one guy. It seemed way too fake. Nana did a great job on it, but I just didn't like the plot.

Russell Burbage

I can totally understand that perspective, but for me what makes me really love Delta Flyers, and sets it apart from other similar podcasts where castmembers of TV shows revisit episodes, is that they do look at episodes with a critical (as in analytical) eye. I feel like it gives me so much more insight into the show/television in general, even if I don't necessarily agree with every criticism (or praise!) that they give.

Theo Adams

I appreciate it too, Kira means so much to me that it's always wonderful getting to hear from Nana.

Ria

Maybe I missed it as I was multi tasking but everyone kept commenting on Ari. Did anyone recognize it was Billy Burke? I can’t remember if it was mentioned lol. He’s kind of a big deal. 😆

SpaceshipAddict

I love Lower Decks too, and thought Garrett did a wonderful job with all the Harry Kims!

Marian Bieniek

I very much appreciated Terry reigning in the lads re the nitpick department! Whilst I think Garrett is often being lighthearted, Robbie (and Armin) - well, not so much… I do enjoy alternative ideas, but it can start to feel somewhat negative at times. Additionally, the goal never was to brainwash Kira. That would have undermined the Obsidian Order’s attempts to incriminate Ghemor. I felt that, on seeing “evidence” that the real Kira was dead, she then started to doubt herself but wanted to hide that, hence her reaction.

Emily Walker

Just watched LDs. SO GOOD. I was seriously hoping for Jadzia, but yeah, maybe next week??? The fact that there's only one more ep of LDs makes me supremely sad.

Elisabeth Westner

Yes, this was an amazing performance from Nana. And I love that she's become a DF regular, because Kira was my favorite DS9 character from the day the show premiered. I love hearing from her.

Elisabeth Westner

On top of a great podcast, I'd just like to say that Garrett did a wonderful job on Lower Decks. Perhaps there could be a bonus episode where Garrett, Robert and Armin talk about their experiences on Lower Decks (I'm still hoping for a surprise Terry appearance in the final episode).

Dean Jones

Ok, more thoughts after listening. 1. Nana is so awesome! I have always been Team Kira. 2. Yes, please, can we have as much Nana as possible on Delta Flyers? 3. I too believe VOY suffered by being episodic vs serial. It was *very* frustrating as a fan, too, that there was such amnesia on that series. I love VOY a lot but the DS9 story is so much more satisfying overall. 4. Chronically single woman here and very happy that I have no one to clean up after except myself and my cats, but I wouldn't say no to a Delta Flyers matchmaking service. Trekkies are my type, but very hard to find in the wild. 😁

Elisabeth Westner

So glad I became a patron. This stuff is gold. Thanks guys!

Dexter Alberts

I'm glad someone asked about the cat memory, that was curious for me as well. My bigger question is about Kira's voice - not only did they have to find someone who looked like Iliana (enough that they could manipulate the looks with plastic surgery), but also someone who sounded exactly like her so Ghamor would recognize her voice. That was the most implausible part, IMHO. I would think a DNA scan would have answered all questions, but if Kira or Ghamor had thought to do one we wouldn't have had a story.

Marcy Beard

Guys remember Cardassia is ruled by the Military the use of Legate in this context is referring to the older Military meaning in Ancient Rome.

Holden Schlage

I appreciate Nana coming on for the interview. I mean it really means so much to me. I also cried from her performance. The story really got me. When she breaks that mirror she literally broke my heart. Emmy worthy performance I think.

Mark K

Good enough for me! Coordinating schedules is so hard, I appreciate the effort!

Elisabeth Westner

We did try, just could not make schedules work. Nana was on a well deserved vacation and no matter how we tried to work the schedule we couldn't make it happen. But she is on for a short interview. It's the best we could do.

Garrett

This talk about hitting marks just reminded me of something. In the pre-credits sequence of the pilot, right after Sisko retrieves Jake and they look out the window at DS9 for the first time, I've always felt that Avery Brooks really obviously looks for his mark on the floor as they approach. Makes sense because I'm not sure how many fx shots he had been involved in up to that point. Always wanted to ask about that.

Kevin Greene

Legate is a Roman rank, it was a senior (usually but not always military) officer. Some Roman terms persist in the Catholic Church, owing to its eventual integration with the Roman state.

Gary Alexander

Aww, yeah, was hoping Nana would be on for this one. Can't wait to hear it!

Elisabeth Westner


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