The Delta Flyers - Workforce, Part 2 717 Video
Added 2023-06-12 04:01:00 +0000 UTCThe Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Workforce, Part 2. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.
Workforce, Part 2:
While the Doctor and Kim defend the ship, Chakotay must infiltrate the alien power plant and convince his abducted colleagues to return to Voyager.
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Comments
Garrett's reading of the Doctor's log was on point!
Dee McGee
2024-10-14 22:50:25 +0000 UTCHe is mark 2 !
Hefefloeckchen
2024-09-06 08:27:11 +0000 UTCAbsolutely!
Dee McGee
2024-03-22 06:05:31 +0000 UTCI really liked B’Elana seeing her life on Voyager from fresh eyes. I liked the ‘gang’ getting together based on the data they had and instinct. I think the Captain saying ‘no’ to a relationship with Jaffen due to protocol was completely wrong. He could have been a civilian advisor. Conflict resolved. No, a better reason would be 2 issues: 1) He really doesn’t know her - you cannot ignore how much being in Starfleet for life impacts your perspective and 2) she honestly should have said ‘you’d always come second’. Her first duty would be her crew. He would get her 20% (at best). And that’s not a relationship. And it’s a valid choice. Finally, ‘not for a second’ feels like the Jaffen relationship was meaningless. It was too offhand. A little more like: ‘No. That wasn’t me. It was like living an alternate fantasy life but I’ll take my reality.’
SnazzyO
2024-01-20 23:52:36 +0000 UTCFinally... Missing scene? B'Elanna listening to Tom's log entry post-Blood Fever. 🤣
Rach V
2023-07-05 10:29:47 +0000 UTCI think Roxann's performance in her acting role was beautiful. The episode did feel slower, but there was - I thought - a desire to allow the actors to carry the story more than the director. I loved that intimacy with the characters, but agree that the second of a two-parter is usually pacier and maybe they should have switched on who directed?
Rach V
2023-07-05 10:28:39 +0000 UTCI gotta say I don't think that it would have worked out between Jaffen and Janeway. I can't remember when I first thought it (certainly since being an adult), but the point when Janeway is telling him about what Chakotay said, he was so belittling in his disbelief that she had the ability to captain a starship. He diminished her in that moment and I just feel like over time that would have become a trait of their relationship, that he didn't think she was as capable as she actually was. Every time I watch this episode it makes me angry. The fact that, at the end, he doesn't seem too bothered about the relationship ending when he says goodbye to her on Voyager, and instead has taken the supervisor role rather than considered staying with her where she is in charge (and so in the position of power), speaks volumes. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive or whatever, but as a woman who has chosen to be single after relationships where I was made to feel lesser than the male, I literally want to punch Jaffen from that moment onwards (well, from the get-go because I know it's coming). Janeway needs someone who sees her potential, respects her, and enables her to blossom, not someone who scoffs at the idea that she could be a Starfleet captain. I don't think that's Chakotay either, btw. I think it needs to be someone outside the Starfleet bubble. I'd have Q on the list before Chakotay because he doesn't care about little things like rank and career. It may be that it was a memory, being with Jaffen, of something lost that she revisited, but I think Janeway is at peace in her proactive decision to be single, just as I am. Yes, if something comes along that can work out then great but it's going to have to be something exceptional and Chakotay, Jaffen and Q are definitely not that!
Rach V
2023-07-05 10:06:13 +0000 UTCRobbie mentioned a special camera / equipment used for the one shot of Chakotay laying on the medicial table. When such a device is just used in a small amount of scenes are they rented? Usually I guess cameras, different lenses and such things belong to the studio or the company for which the series is shot? I just was wondering and curious.
Kassandra
2023-06-26 10:15:59 +0000 UTCI don't think that there is anything wrong with the blocking in the supervisors office scene. He leans to the right as a bit of comedy then goes to his left because that is literally the ONLY place he can go. He cant go right because of the wall and he cant go straight because there are two people in the way so he goes left. What is the problem with that? Point taken about how Janeway should not have that much stuff, but we can't see the whole planet and do not know if there are trees or not. Come on man. Cameras have timers on them. Have for decades. Come on man.
ST Fan CB
2023-06-22 18:14:59 +0000 UTCHow about that kiss in Window of Opportunity like 4 episodes before? Sam/Jack may have done JC better than JC, but I don’t know, scary territory for me as a JC fan….atic.
Mike Gu
2023-06-19 12:22:24 +0000 UTCNow I understannnnnnd, and it’s time to leave the Woods! My actual favorite play, which makes this my favorite comment on TDF Patreon!!! 🖖
Mike Gu
2023-06-19 12:20:07 +0000 UTCThis episode is oddly close to the Stargate SG-1 ep "Beneath the Surface", which aired 6 months before this one and does pair up its will-they-or-won't-they characters (Sam and Jack) while they've lost their memories, only to have to return to their original, military-appropriate platonic relationship afterwards. That might be where the idea that Chakotay and Janeway were meant to be lovers in this episode came from.
Rochelle Mazar
2023-06-19 00:19:10 +0000 UTCCame here to say this. Also that they considered having her and Chakotay (instead of Jaffen) but it didn't make it past writer room discussion, I think. Too bad -- it would have been perfect -- we would have gotten to see them as a couple without any "permanent" effect to the crew structure (but lots of conflict to touch on here and there, which of course, would have required more character continuity)
Tara
2023-06-18 01:11:40 +0000 UTCFinally catching up after a family week at the beach! Robbie - your Life Lesson made me immediately think of a song from Into The Woods. The Baker’s Wife sings “Must it all be either less or more? Either plain or grand? Is it always "or?" Is it never "and?" That's what woods are for For those moments in the woods … Let the moment go. Don't forget it for a moment, though Just remembering you've had an "and" When you're back to "or" Makes the "or" mean more Than it did before…”.
Laura Johnson
2023-06-17 23:51:34 +0000 UTCI wonder if the writers were listening to Oingo Boingo when writing this episode. The lyrics to "Perfect System" (sung by Jack Skellington) fits it to a T.
Sony
2023-06-17 18:02:15 +0000 UTC"Put it on vibrate, dude" ~ Robbie 🤣 Good points about Chakotay possibly being interrogating then his left arm chirps.
Sony
2023-06-17 17:55:55 +0000 UTCGreat directing and acting by Roxanne.
Sony
2023-06-17 17:30:23 +0000 UTCGarrett's EMH impression is on point.
Sony
2023-06-17 17:28:57 +0000 UTCJANEWAY: It may not have been real, Chakotay, but it felt like home. If you hadn't come after me, I never would've known that I had another life. CHAKOTAY: Are you sorry I showed up? JANEWAY: Not for a second. Resume course, Mister Paris. 👏 👏 👏
Sony
2023-06-17 17:20:05 +0000 UTCw/r/t the photo of Tom & B'Elanna, why couldn't the computer have taken the photo? There's monitors and cameras everywhere (which is why you can video chat from any console).
Dustin Snyder
2023-06-16 00:14:16 +0000 UTCAnyone else looking forward to watching the new season of Strange New Worlds tomorrow? Paramount put all of season 1 on Youtube for free (with ads).
Sony
2023-06-15 02:19:09 +0000 UTCI wish the guys (since they are now full-blown J/C Shippers) had commented on the time Janeway is lovingly touching Jaffen's face and she seems to be focused on the right side of his forehead -- like there should be a tattoo there or something.
AM Marquez
2023-06-14 00:45:20 +0000 UTCa plagiarization tool donned in a weird mystical aura, yes.
Samantha
2023-06-13 10:16:44 +0000 UTCVery interesting and sad to see just how lonely Janeway truly is on a personal level.
Samantha
2023-06-13 10:13:25 +0000 UTCChakotay wanted them to think he had jumped.
Samantha
2023-06-13 08:52:19 +0000 UTC"Now do what u like mañana" ? Lol
Tashicat
2023-06-12 21:47:08 +0000 UTCDid the maths and realised in 8 podcasts time it's endgame (assuming your reviewing it as a whole episode and not separate episodes), really looking forward to that one as if I remember right your having the admiral's join you for that? That will be fun to watch.
bakura
2023-06-12 17:26:15 +0000 UTCAlso lots of talk of katras in Enterprise.
Janet K Harlow
2023-06-12 17:21:16 +0000 UTCFavorite limerick yet. Great job RDM.
Janet K Harlow
2023-06-12 17:19:33 +0000 UTCThe improv at the end was hilarious! The Doc's not paying attention lol
Lisa Minnesma
2023-06-12 15:28:09 +0000 UTC1:56, he IS basically saying 'not true'. I'm glad it was confirmed by Bryan Fuller himself!
Lisa Minnesma
2023-06-12 15:03:21 +0000 UTCAnd icheb
Steven
2023-06-12 14:39:55 +0000 UTCGood news: AI isn't going to take over the world, it's just going to plagiarize it. All the 'what if AGI???' talk is religiosity at best, and a misleading smokescreen from the actual harms at worst. It's not an argument that serious AI scientists are making, just the TESCREAL techbros.
DogBlud
2023-06-12 13:52:24 +0000 UTCIf A.I. was anything like the Doctor then it would learn to sing opera, write holonovels, instruct...borg on dating rituals and then have ambitions to be more than the sum of its programming....wouldn't it.?
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 11:47:57 +0000 UTCThere was a young Klingon named Bel'anna whose food of choice was banana. She joined the Marquis, But then Janeway said "You're free" [....and some other line that rhymes with "be'alanna'.]
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 11:25:03 +0000 UTCVoyager leaves tuvok behind, then Harry wakes up in Kevin McCallister's mum mode yelling "ahhhh! TUUUVOKKKKKK!!!"
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 11:16:47 +0000 UTCJaneway tells Harry in the pilot "Caretaker" despite Starfleet protocol she didn't like being "sir" so Harry says "Aye captain" and "yes Ma'am" became, Tom's thing.
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 11:05:30 +0000 UTCChakotay rips off the latex mask, Mission Impossible style? ha ha.,
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 10:07:51 +0000 UTCA note for Robbie (but I'm sure he knows this) a vulcan's katra is his mind...his soul. Go watch wrath of Khan and Search for Spock (or did I misinterpret that comment, and it's the character (the doctor treating Tuvok) asking "what is a katra?").
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 10:00:21 +0000 UTCmaybe the doc cheated on the Kobyashi Maru scenario (ha ha). Just remember watching "Star Trek" (J.J. film) last night. Not bad really. Worth it for Leonard Nimoy's cameo.
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 09:49:47 +0000 UTC"purple playhouse" is about Dracula.
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 09:36:41 +0000 UTCThis is Roxann's directing ep - don't actors have a hard time directing themselves as well as practically the whole cast, as well as all the pre-shoot prep that goes into it. Hand off as much as you can to "2nd unit" and just direct the primary cast I suppose.
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 09:22:30 +0000 UTCYou'd think of course in classic Trek style, there'd be SOME sort of social commentary on child labour. Come to think of it did you see any other characters that seemed to be of child age?
Andrew Murray
2023-06-12 09:13:52 +0000 UTCTaking lessons from Stevie Nicks LOLOL
Tashicat
2023-06-12 06:50:56 +0000 UTCAnyone else wondering what these guys did with Naomi Wildman during these episodes? It seems like she'd be a little young to be working in a power plant.
Brandon Kolk
2023-06-12 05:29:59 +0000 UTCYeah, Harry had a plan which quite literally saved the crew. Should be worthy of a promotion, but alas no.
Don Eitner
2023-06-12 05:17:42 +0000 UTCHoly crap! I JUST started this episode, walked into my kitchen to grab a drink, and came back JUST in time to hear Garrett talking about shoving drugs into somewhere that for many of us, is STRICTLY an EXIT ONLY. Now I gotta rewind it to see just what the hell I missed in those 30 seconds. (It must've been really something in order to go from the Opening theme music to talking about shoving drugs up your bum in less time than it takes to pour a glass of Kool-Aid. (Yes, yes, I drink a kids drink. I know. At least it's not drugs up me bum, though. LOL)
Christopher Marshall
2023-06-12 04:45:16 +0000 UTC
