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Sneak peak into our upcoming Family Meltdown episode with dad.. This story made me so mad. And my dad could be the voice of reason here.. idk even after editing it how I feel. I need your thoughts!! 

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Mom is abusing her when has the mom ever had a consequence for her actions to a child

Collin

Don’t have children if you can’t or won’t protect them when they need it.

Rosana

Morgan, there wasn't enough information here and you were projecting a lot. We don't know why the issues between the mom and daughter started. You're assuming that it was all on the mom. You're assuming that the dad was on the mom's side. You're assuming that he just allowed everything to happen even though there's only so much you can do with someone else's conflict. You villainized the dad with no issue because of your own personal experience and that isn't fair.

Hailey Hoffman

It sounds like the mom is abusive and the dad let's it happen. He is not protecting his children from this abusive person which makes him abusive just in a different way. He abuse is neglect. Her abuse is emotional.

Misty

Hey Jessica, I think maybe understanding the fact that this girl is 18 years old may put some things into perspective. For this girl to have been institutionalized more than one time due to the mother speaks volumes. I think we often want to pardon those around the problem, but he, meaning to or not, enables her. It should never have gotten that bad, and it shows by his response he doesn't fully see how bad this mothers abuse is. Its a fathers job to protect his child, that should be his priority. This dad not only hasn't done that, but blew up on his daughter in her safe space, stuff like this truly leads people to things like suicide. I think attacking anyone that enables, or lets this go on is pretty valid, because at the end of the day, even though he isn't the abuser, he's allowing it. To me that makes him just as bad, not to mention the daughter having to speak up on the treatment of the other kids. This guys a true piece of work, so while it may be harsh, I think its justified.

Abby

Thanks for sharing <3

Two Hot Takes

Morgan, you don’t have enough info about the situation to demonize the dad so much. Yes, he made a mistake, but he was also struggling and I’m sure has had a difficult time navigating the situation too. He is a parent, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t human. I have compassion for both of them and you should too. You don’t know if he supports his wife. At all. You don’t have that info. We don’t know what that looks like inside their home. He failed his daughter in that moment yes, but I can see why he lost his shit. Doesn’t make it okay. But having zero compassion for his position is a little much.

Jessica clark

I was the daughter in this situation. Except i was raised by my sister (18 years older than me) and her husband. I understand it was a lot to take in a child you didn’t bear. She had i had a great relationship when i was younger. But her husband was a TOXIC person to be around. He often made me scared to be outside of my own room. He’s glare at me. Or yell at me for insane reasons like hanging out with one of my sisters on the weekend instead of studying or using nail polish. Made me drop and do 20 pushups. Address him by “sir”. They fought a lot about my family and it felt like he took his frustration out on me. A 10 year old kid. From 10-19 years old, i had this tumultuous relationship with him. I went to therapy at 27, realizing i had a lot to sift through. I was able to talk about my mom’s illness and suicide attempts, my father’s infidelity and my broken family. All without shedding a single tear. Until i realized that my sister, being the mother figure in my life, did not protect me from her husband and let him continuously mistreat me. I fell apart during this session. I left them at 19 because it got worse. To my surprise, he tore my room apart because he wanted me to move out. There was no discussion. I hadn’t done anything. I was an au pair for my nieces. I came home from work to have my mattress flipped, personal belongings broken, and my room completely trashed. I didn’t speak to her for 3 years. We reconnected and things were okay for a few years (i was living in a different state). Then we did not talk again for a few years after she told me she had no interest about hearing about a new love interest i had at the time (we’ve now been together for almost 3 years). I hope the OP was able to read the comments from others. Even after explaining to my sister that i did not feel protected and my therapy sessions (I’m first generation and therapy/mental help is taboo/weak in my family’s culture), she did not understand where the relationship fell short. She didn’t understand why i didn’t feel like i had a home. Even 10 years later, she and i had a serious talk yesterday, yet she still thinks it’s because i had a social life (normal high school/college hangouts and friends). She doesn’t see where i reached out to her in the many ways that I’ve tried and felt alone. This breaks my heart for both the OP and the daughter. But I’m hoping he’ll at least see the comments and can find a different and better way to approach the situation.

Susan Ly

Jerry was HILARIOUS in this episode. My Patreon hadn’t been updated and I’d been checking 3 times a day for extra content from you and was so excited when this came up! It did mean I signed up to the Father Knows Patreon though in my impatience. I only ever listened to crime podcasts before finding two hot takes and never understood how people listened to them but now am obsessed! I just re listen to two hot takes episodes at ALL TIMES. Thanks for making my days that little bit better all the way from New Zealand ♥️

Samantha Hunt

Sounds like dad has failed to protect his daughter from the mom. If this were me and my family, I would hope my husband would tell me that he's leaving with my daughter if I can't be a good mom and say hateful things to my child like that. My own mom has told me things like that and it's brutal to hear, how she wouldn't have had me if she knew I was going to be completely different from her. She really thought I was going to be a mini her, who didn't socialize and stayed home all day to clean and cook for the family. Dad is an asshole because he's staying with someone who continuously emotionally and mentally abuses his daughter for the sake of his marriage. It's like the dad who left his wife because she was bullying their daughter over her weight and taking her belongings and favoring the nieces and nephews over her own daughter. Therapy doesn't fix terrible relationships.

Clarissa Thompson

there's gotta be some undiagnosed, hereditary behavioral disorder the mom has passed down to the daughter

Maddy Koehler

This is tragic. I feel like there is a LOT more information to be had.

Leona Guthrie

I hope this winds you down and not up lol its a doozy

Two Hot Takes

just finished my first day of class so i NEEDED these stories to wind down. thank u for blessing my feed

Mary Hallaren

Jerry is so insightful but this story is a tough one 😬

Holly

Being showered by all these today just helping survive work today🫶🏼

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Lisha Howen


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