September 2024 - Day 3.9 - Kotozakura v Tobizaru
Added 2024-09-10 12:05:00 +0000 UTCThis one is sure to be controversial, so see it for yourself.
Ozeki Kotozakura takes on M1 Tobizaru in the final match on Day 3 in Tokyo.
Enjoy!
-Jason
Comments
Poor Tobizaru! Robbed of that one
Will
2024-09-13 00:16:59 +0000 UTCI wonder if the other judges just didn't want to question the gyoji's ruling. As a little extra sign of respect during his last basho. Not saying I agree with it. Just wondering.
Shawn Chidester
2024-09-11 03:43:27 +0000 UTCThe bottom of the foot can. Not the top.
Chad Hagans
2024-09-11 02:34:45 +0000 UTCThe top of both Tobi’s feet touch before Koto hits the ground
Chad Hagans
2024-09-11 02:34:05 +0000 UTCNo, your foot can touch the bales
King Rama
2024-09-11 02:22:39 +0000 UTCOzeki privilege. This reminds me of the time Enho clearly beat Takakeisho and they overruled it.
King Rama
2024-09-11 02:22:12 +0000 UTCHere is one of the holes in the sumo scoring regulations - seems to me that the 'shimpan' in the video booth SHOULD be able to call a mono-ii, or some sort of protest mechanism - Japanese martial arts like Kendo and Naginata have such a mechanism (I know this as a certified Naginata shimpan & former Kendo player).
Raymond Sosnowski
2024-09-10 20:55:04 +0000 UTCok -I'll have a look
Jason Harris
2024-09-10 20:04:56 +0000 UTCThey soooooo bad want a new Yokozuna - now they are giving him wins!!!
Michael Tremblay
2024-09-10 18:05:23 +0000 UTCNo way
Stu H.
2024-09-10 16:56:23 +0000 UTCIt looked to me that the top of Tobizaru's foot hit the straw bail. Maybe just the top of the toes, but that would be enough.
Art Linwood
2024-09-10 16:41:54 +0000 UTCI have seen multiple comments regarding this gyoji’s history of questionable decisions, but I have not seen a name for him to verify anything.
Collin Davis
2024-09-10 15:17:06 +0000 UTCMoments like this with no way to require them to look at it initiated by either wrestlers once per tournament is disappointing. Every wrestler there for at least 1 year should get a challenge.
Austin K
2024-09-10 15:14:17 +0000 UTCBut dead body would not apply here as Tobizau was also forcing Kotozakura out with an intentional move. I would be curious if this judge has a history given higher rank wrestlers very favorable outcomes.
Austin K
2024-09-10 15:12:18 +0000 UTCNot sure I agree with the decision even with this rule, but thanks for context!
TheRealTeal
2024-09-10 15:01:02 +0000 UTCThat’s TWICE Tobizaru has been robbed this tournament. Sheesh!
TheRealTeal
2024-09-10 14:59:09 +0000 UTCthe top of Tobizaru's left foot touches the ground inside the ring at 5:49
Matt Boom
2024-09-10 13:58:28 +0000 UTCFrom a bit of Yandexing, it looks like the winner is not always the one who touches the ground last. From reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Sumo/comments/6eo809/sumo_101_the_rules/: What's this "dead body" rule I hear about? The term is shini-tai. It's a controversial rule. If a wrestler touches the ground first, but puts the opponent in a position where there is no possible chance of recovery due to the superior sumo of the first wrestler, the judges may rule that the first wrestler won. It's a highly subjective rule. From wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shini-tai: Their explanation is usually that the winning wrestler used a specific technique to overpower his opponent and was in clear control of the match. They grant him the victory regardless of whether or not he touched the ground first.
Andomar
2024-09-10 13:46:08 +0000 UTCDefinitely Tobizaru's win!
Barb
2024-09-10 12:15:51 +0000 UTCKoto got away with one in my opinion
Roswell Richardson
2024-09-10 12:09:14 +0000 UTCTobizaru was ROBBED. I'm the biggest Kotozakura fan you'll find, but he lost this match. How was this not overturned?!?
Jim Bulger
2024-09-10 12:06:30 +0000 UTC
