Early Access: Shōgun 5 - Group Reaction+Uncut
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excellent post
Macs
2025-03-19 14:49:14 +0000 UTC#SUNDAYRUNDOWN nine months later Mariko has a half white baby and calls her Mizu haha
fr0st
2025-03-19 12:05:33 +0000 UTC[in Portuguese] So, if I understand correctly, what was SUPPOSED to happen with the pheasant is similar to a dry-aging process, where, after a certain amount of time, you cut away the decayed bit to get the tender, flavorful, aged meat inside. The season they're in was the perfect time to do this...IN ENGLAND, but Blackthorne was not considering the humidity in Japan and how it would make the process MUCH worse. Navi talked about the meaning behind Blackthorne saying a mans wife "merits better" despite being his property being that Blackthorne was putting Mariko on a pedestal above other women. However, I believe Blackthorne would've said this for Fuji, or any other woman as well. When he says "I strongly believe a mans wife merits better.", he means it. In other words, despite women being property, he believes a real man treats his "property" with respect. You guys had a good discussion about Mariko's line "If freedom is all you seek, you will never be free of yourself." Another way you could interpret this is the idea of fulfilling ones purpose. Those who have a purpose are truly free, whereas those who are forever restless, always seeking the horizon, are a "slave" to wanderlust and will never gain the true fulfillment of purpose. Blackthorne thinks traversing the open sea is freedom, Mariko thinks fulfilling her true set purpose is freedom. I love how y'all talked about Lady Ochiba's voice. Fumi Nikaido is the actress playing Ochiba no Kata. This was her debut in the west, but she is well-known in Japan...for playing villains. 😈 That creepy voice of hers is a signature she's brought out in many roles.
Nabeshin
2025-03-19 01:10:54 +0000 UTC#SUNDAYRUNDOWN Blackthorne rushing to see if Fuji is ok and then setting the Gardener's rock back in place and the score that plays :( I was literally sobbing. He largely doesn’t relate to their culture, and his carelessness got someone killed. Not only did it hit him due to the consequences of his actions, but he was then given a front row display to how people “Live and die.” Yet despite that, he continued to be caring and endearing. “How is it being a consort to a barbarian?” “Lol ask your wife she’s the one pillowing him” Just Fuji-sama being the GOAT as usual. Toranaga wasn't using Lady Ochiba as a bargaining chip for his own safety in Osaka... He was keeping Osaka and the regency council safe from Lady Ochiba.She wields her power through her son apparently. Maybe Ishido and as such the council is really under her manipulation. It will be interesting to see why she specifically has it out for Toranaga, possibly because of Toranaga being such a close counselor to her husband, the previous ruler.She doesn't have political or military power like we understand it. But she is the highest ranked female in Japan (by a long shot, in a sphere of her own) and mother of the (future) supreme ruler of Japan. As the show makes clear, various notions of honor, duty, service etc play an outsized role in Japan, so just her station gives her real power - no one can touch her, and she can just send a message to the other regents and the response to whatever she wants is likely to be "Yes ma'am, right away". Ishido has to take her seriously. Buntaro is such a perfect heel. Totally despicable and yet utterly captivating whenever he's on screen. Big props to that actor. He's a more complex character than most viewers will ever give him credit for. Our modern values are obviously very different, but in his eyes, he will forever be tainted by the family name of the woman he's married to. He doesn't want her as a wife, but there's little to be done about that. He's also a fearsome warrior, without a doubt the most skilled warrior shown so far on the show. He likely feels that he should be honoured for that, and he's probably right in that thought considering the culture he lives in. Instead, he has a wife he doesn't want and is being forced to serve an uncultured man from another part of the world who doesn't even speak the language. All this taken with the fact that he's war-hardened and has most definitely seen untold death and destruction, it's really not surprising that he's an asshole who can't contain his rage. Dude needs to go live on a farm by himself, but that is not an option. One could argue he is also living in the prison of honor and duty. Death is less scary than dishonor and abandoning duty. A different time, modern barbarians can never hope to comprehend. I feel so bad for Ishido dude is around a bunch of idiots and now he has to fight against Toranaga because his son is brain dead. Just realized that in Episode 1 when we see Muraji walking towards the beach and found John's ship, he was actually attending the spy pigeons for Toranaga. This episode did an amazing job showing the great, jarring gaps in culture and the attempted bridging that makes Blackthorne so endearing to the rest of them. You know it's a good show when a quiet conversation over dinner has you on the edge of your seat
Yhwach
2025-03-18 18:00:49 +0000 UTC
