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Added 2023-11-30 15:29:46 +0000 UTCYoung Justice 2x20
Reaction: https://youtu.be/1UcXivUJxj8
Uncut: https://thenormies.com/young-justice-premium/ (pg. 6)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer 5x14
Reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKPb2O1ebQk
Uncut: https://thenormies.com/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-premium/ (pg. 11)
Angel 2x14
Uncut: https://thenormies.com/angel-uncut-only/ (pg. 4)
Comments
oh and there we go another rabid spike fan calling out someone whose highlighting inconsistent character traits that came to light this season by gaslighting and question peoples mental capacity. You tell yourself whatever you need to to justify Spikes sexual abuse as some sort of acceptable foreplay.
Tony O
2024-01-11 22:44:19 +0000 UTCAnyone mentioning the idea that a 15 year old child not liking them anymore (one who was powerful) would eliminate a possibility of having them as a great future partner is fucking wild He doesn’t get to joke about that, young girls and women have to hear that shit all the time
space colon
2023-12-19 08:30:34 +0000 UTCWake the fuck up Committing crime doesn’t mean you’re a horrible person or make you a horrible person Poverty is the leading factor in crime production and also leads to lack of safety and job options More people are living pay check to paycheck in America than ever before, more are homeless than ever before Corporations own Millions of buildings in Baltimore just for the property so they won’t let homeless people stay there (when in fact there are 10x more vacant properties than there are homeless) Poverty means you have no place to go and no transportation and no resources to help family dealing with medical emergencies I was homeless in highschool and house hopped 6 times in 4 years, have been subjected to violence and have lost/hurt teeth which has financially ruined me trying to save my mouth I had to sleep in a vacant owned by the city with no water or electricity I’m wasn’t a homeless person, I was a PERSON who was homeless You are fucking clueless and probably a little racist bitch
space colon
2023-12-19 06:58:03 +0000 UTCI don't think what we say matters, because so many patreons have proven to be die-hard stans for really bad episodes, seasons, and even entire shows
BetheSOUL
2023-12-04 17:38:01 +0000 UTCIt only appears that way. He only does things when it serves him. Doesn't stop him from attempting to kill someone immediately after he thinks his chip has stopped working. You're the one with the narrative it seems
King Medjai
2023-12-04 00:32:13 +0000 UTCJust waiting until episode 16
PreachMooreComedy
2023-12-03 15:22:43 +0000 UTC#sundayrundown man after all these years even watching the reaction my eyes get watery for Wally
Johnathan E Llorente
2023-12-03 12:21:04 +0000 UTCOf course he isn’t attractive to everyone in the fandom but he’s “classically” attractive to the point of a lot of red flags being ignored on his behalf. Like in real life some people ignore the red flags in others because they find them appealing for any number of reasons.
CWall
2023-12-02 20:27:26 +0000 UTCCorey Wallace…Spike is attractive? Lol. I guess it’s the age thing for me. I could clearly tell the actor who played Spike was almost 40. Buffy in her early 20s and it just never clicked for me as Buffy/Spike hot couple potential. Just my observation though.
Alison
2023-12-02 16:59:44 +0000 UTCNoooo 😟. I was hoping he was joking. Can someone remind him it gets better and better. That season 5 is one of the best of the Buffyverse. I hope they figure something out, with him getting really tired around that time. Damn.
Alexis Cardarella
2023-12-02 16:02:13 +0000 UTC@Tony this is where nuance comes into play, and viewers with limited mental capacity, like you, get confused. Spike has shown compassion, but LIMITED compassion for those he is infatuated with. He has shown empathy, but it doesn't bother him. And self-awareness? I mean, about as much self-awareness as a 2 year old toddler. And showing emotion through crying, is that supposed to be an action exclusive to healthy or kind people? You've never see convicted cold murderers cry at sentencing? We've seen vampires as far back as the Master show similar emotions for, say, Darla, even crying when she dies. You just haven't really paid attention.
BetheSOUL
2023-12-02 15:56:35 +0000 UTC@Jay, you say that like you've never obsessed over anyone who doesn't care about you. There is a difference between obsessing over someone and actively stalking them. Ask your therapist to explain that difference to you. If you don't have a therapist, find one, because it sounds like you very much need one.
BetheSOUL
2023-12-02 15:48:39 +0000 UTCHuh? What did Xander say about Dawn?
BetheSOUL
2023-12-02 15:35:37 +0000 UTC@Macs Not really an anomaly, the first episode of Angel S3 shows another couple that loved each other even more intensely than Spike and Dru
BetheSOUL
2023-12-02 15:30:58 +0000 UTCI think Chris has bowed out of Angel for good
BetheSOUL
2023-12-02 15:24:53 +0000 UTCYeah, it's pretty weird that their minds would jump toward something sexual so quickly. Makes me think that sex is always on the back of their minds whenever they're interacting with teenagers in any capacity, which is actually more worrisome.
BetheSOUL
2023-12-02 15:22:57 +0000 UTCPlease stop sexualizing every interaction any male has with Dawn, y'all are actually making it weird
BetheSOUL
2023-12-02 15:22:40 +0000 UTCYeah they seem to "see" alot of innuendo that aren't there. Like alot lol
King Medjai
2023-12-02 08:58:42 +0000 UTCSome of it is warranted. Plenty of people that are dirt poor that don't commit crimes to get by. Not to mention violent crimes. There are predators in those communities, police are necessary. (Not Zombie police of course lol)
King Medjai
2023-12-02 08:53:24 +0000 UTCNexr week i mean
King Medjai
2023-12-02 08:43:45 +0000 UTC100% This is confirmed by The Judge in season 2. Some vampires can still withhold emotions and feelings. (The needy vampire is able to be consumed but Angelus isn't)
Carson Cardarella
2023-12-02 07:53:59 +0000 UTCYesssss 100%
Carson Cardarella
2023-12-02 07:48:48 +0000 UTCAgreed. I always saw it as innocent. Granted my 1st watch was over 10 years ago, it was a different time and the creepy Joss Whedon stories weren't uncovered then.
Carson Cardarella
2023-12-02 07:39:39 +0000 UTCIn the very first episode Spoke was making sexual allusions towards 16 yr old Buffy He has been shown crying over Drusilla since season 2, he is and always has been pathetic… which is what makes him interesting It was an intentional running joke by the writers
space colon
2023-12-02 06:45:43 +0000 UTC@Tony O Spike Killed highschoolers and mocked Buffy for the shit that happened with Parker
space colon
2023-12-02 06:36:54 +0000 UTCFr, 1). like he was saying sexual things to Buffy back at the beginning of Season 2 when she was 16 2). he killed kids at her high school 3). He made fun of Buffy for the bullshit with Parker Xander is awful for saying this stuff about Dawn but Spike was even worse somehow
space colon
2023-12-02 06:22:28 +0000 UTCYeah! Like he just happens to be a natural romantic so he does dramatic things and (mostly) feigns empathy to get what he wants
space colon
2023-12-02 06:18:09 +0000 UTCYou guys are acting so weird about Dawn. There’s nothing sexual about anything to do with her. Xander bringing up that she had a crush on him isn’t weird, we know he’s had low self esteem his whole life and dawns crush on him was always an ego boost to him. He doesn’t think of her that way or anything weird like that. And Dawn and Spike having a conversation is also fine and in no way sexual. Just relax a little bit when it comes to Dawn.
Ray D
2023-12-02 06:15:30 +0000 UTCFR any media treating Police as essential to society is BS Same with most Aaron Sorkin shows depiction of Gov and Hollywood romanticizing the US Military as a fun place to go
space colon
2023-12-02 06:14:41 +0000 UTCAngel: This episode was a well intentioned but, yeah, flawed. Not a surprise considering it was written by a white liberal man in the early aughts. To me it was annoying when they used Gunn to play as strong of a devil's advocate as he did with the kids, implying at least some of the force was likely provoked, and then with that one guy with the whole, “guys like you give us a bad name” shit. Then that thing Kate said about there being less murders and rape when they pulled that zombie cop shit, and ending their discussion of the topic there. So dumb. Like some of you touched on, there are other ways of combating crime, namely through prevention, and that comes through a livable wages, affordable housing and healthcare, and other resources. The less resources you have met, the more crime people will resort to. Police brutality and murder is not in any way a means that justifies the ends, and it certainly doesn’t get to the source of shit. At the end of the day, under capitalism, the police serve the ruling class and their property, and the US in particular are trained to be reactive instead of de-escelative, require the least training by far compared to other western countries, and are the most militarized. A lot of street cops in the Europe can't even carry guns around. Damn this would have been a great episode to have Chris on the couch.
Alexis Cardarella
2023-12-02 04:22:46 +0000 UTCB.S. That drug dealer is not the reason those cops behave the way they do. He's the excuse they use.
Solebat
2023-12-02 00:51:19 +0000 UTCReally? Maybe you mean the art style, but it’s objectively stale and not as fluid
not here
2023-12-01 20:10:58 +0000 UTCEveryone should be watching Angel - without saying anything else, everyone should be watching Angel, the entire series!
Scott
2023-12-01 18:52:05 +0000 UTCOne thing to always keep in mind with ships like Spuffy that it's not reality, it's just a show. Ship them however much you want (I do, too) as long as you are able to separate fiction from reality. They’re intriguing and much more interesting to watch than a ship like Buffy/Riley. Also, keep in mind that in Spike's case, he has no soul and is a vampire driven by violence and killing innocents. Just like Angel without a soul is a disgusting sadist.
Poison Ivy
2023-12-01 18:30:55 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown Young Justice 2x20 G. Gordon Godfrey character is from the "Fourth World" series comics, created by Jack Kirby and which Darkseid and the other New Gods characters originate from. ♨️ GGG news persona also seems based off of Pier Morgan, the British talk show shock jockey who called out Megan Markel for being fake.
StlawHatRuffy
2023-12-01 16:52:09 +0000 UTCYeah I don't get it either. He's been this way since season 2.
King Medjai
2023-12-01 15:51:33 +0000 UTCWhat narrative are they talking about?
King Medjai
2023-12-01 15:46:11 +0000 UTCIt would be more unsettling if they constantly tried to make you like him.
King Medjai
2023-12-01 15:42:31 +0000 UTCHe's right tho, spike is a despicable killer and proves that he would do it again in a heart if given the chance. People shouldn't like him.
King Medjai
2023-12-01 15:40:48 +0000 UTCIf ever there was a time for a double drop 😔
King Medjai
2023-12-01 15:35:28 +0000 UTCFirst of all I’m not ignoring anything. His capabilities of being complex don’t outweigh the facts that he is still a soulless demon in a muzzle and he’s developed a Stockholm syndrome like relationship.
CWall
2023-12-01 14:03:57 +0000 UTCLet’s not sit here and act like Spike isn’t still a soulless demon that’s just the fact. People like to forget and ignore the red flags because Spike is attractive.
CWall
2023-12-01 14:00:36 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown #Buffy Spike is such a great character one of the best in the series but i think you guys tend to forget 1 very important thing about him, Spike has No Soul (no spoilers but this is actually important for context into the character). Spike's actions are driven solely by Impulse with 0 impulse control so there is no conscience telling him what's right or wrong(in this universe the Soul repersents your conscience). The chip in Spike's brain has more so domesticated him instead of say replaced his Soul, so the only reason Spike does anything that would be considered "Good" is only because he realy has no options to do anything "Evil" as the chip would stop him. In a lot of ways Spike is trapped in his own body (he lacks free will) not being allowed to be his "True Self" (which in this case would be a Mass Murdering Vampire) and that is why he behaves in the manner he does.
All Mighty Lowercase Jay
2023-12-01 13:47:39 +0000 UTCneed to remind them to watch the season finale 'last time on'
Macs
2023-12-01 13:26:19 +0000 UTCjust want to point out, the judge said spike had love for dru and so he was technically vulnerable to him, spike and dru for that matter are kinda an anomaly among vamps
Macs
2023-12-01 13:07:24 +0000 UTCI'd argue even before that...Spike's first episode. When he sees her for the first time at the Bronze. I dunno, I got lusty eyes on his part as he watched her dance...
hannemanart
2023-12-01 12:15:53 +0000 UTCI think they watched 5x15 and 5x16 in one sitting
Alicia
2023-12-01 03:51:36 +0000 UTCReally enjoyed the post angel discussion about what Gunn and that other dude were arguing about
Bisibia
2023-12-01 03:42:50 +0000 UTCthe animation is undeniably better
Zee
2023-12-01 03:07:20 +0000 UTCbut because it suits your narrative your going to ignore the fact that unlike other vampires spike has shown compassion empathy self awareness and hurt and can show emotion through crying. But dont let these plot holes get in the way of your excuses.
Tony O
2023-12-01 02:58:18 +0000 UTCUnfortunately obsession is a very real human trait and the notion its only cos spike is a vampire is very presumptuous and almost ignorant or disingenuous. His whole shtick is he 'makes woman love him' even when they dont want it,
Tony O
2023-12-01 02:55:02 +0000 UTCBut lets forget the fact he's been stalking and sexually harassing Buffy just because JMs rabid fanbase want to keep him around.
Tony O
2023-12-01 02:51:54 +0000 UTCits character assassination because a complex and charismatic character has been reduced to an obsessed sex pest with literally nothing more to give, that what the writers pick and choose when it suits them.
Tony O
2023-12-01 02:49:59 +0000 UTCI like to think the zombie cops in this weeks Angel were a metaphor for a type of policing not quite as dead and buried as most in early 2000’s thought or hoped it was. As for Buffy, it’s funny how certain everyone seems to be that they’re setting up a Buffy/Spike relationship(I’ll avoid any further opinions/clarifications since I don’t want to indicate either way if they’re right or wrong).
Todd “Canuck” Schmuck
2023-12-01 02:16:38 +0000 UTC#Sunday Rundown Joss whedon hated the popularity of spike . But spike was so popular that he stayed on show . So episodes that make you not like spike. It's done on purpose. So don't let them influence you. Spike was a better human than angel . And showed love as a vampire . Angel never loved anybody because he didn't have a soul.
Tjbosslyfe
2023-12-01 02:03:02 +0000 UTC#Sunday Rundown The first seed of spike and Buffy was when Faith was in Buffy body She said she ride spike make him feel like warm champagne. Spike never knew faith was in Buffy body. I think that was the first seed of Spike and Buffy.
Tjbosslyfe
2023-12-01 01:57:03 +0000 UTCwhy did he do it like this: 1. evil that is reforming is still evil. he is REFORMING not REFORMED 2. he is a vampire WITHOUT a soul so... 3. he has a century of bad behavior and stunted growth to get through 4. he's spike
rickie woodson
2023-11-30 23:33:01 +0000 UTCyou can open with LOVE. love is the way after all
rickie woodson
2023-11-30 23:29:05 +0000 UTCas someone who only knows of the incels from what you internet celebs say: i dont know them. so this episode wasnt cringe at all. just another great fun/funny episode. spike with harmony, harmony throughout the ep, spike with dawn, soooooooooooooooo GOOD
rickie woodson
2023-11-30 23:28:52 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown Because Spike is a vampire without a soul his version of love is a pretty twisted one. Love, hate, obsession all walk hand in hand with each other for Spike, to a human though this kind of love is horrible and it’s not the kind Buffy deserves. As a vampire without a soul Spike could never give Buffy what she wants or needs but an important thing to remember is that this isn’t Spikes fault necessarily, it’s just the only way a vampire without a soul could love. How Spike views love has always been the more interesting parts of Buffy to me because Spike also isn’t a normal vampire without a soul, he is capable of caring a lot better than most vampires, and capable of understanding human emotions, that could probably be attributed to him being a poet as a human or maybe something else, but even Joss Whedon confirmed that Spike is an unusual Vampire without a soul because of his ability to sustain his own emotions. Can’t wait for your reactions to the rest of the series!!!
Nyeisha Melvina Clark
2023-11-30 22:43:48 +0000 UTCI have had the shittiest army day ever. Needed these reactions. Thank you.
MPH
2023-11-30 22:21:48 +0000 UTCGordon has been working with the Light/Apokolips the entire time.
Mzuka
2023-11-30 22:16:18 +0000 UTCRegarding the next seasons of yj, there's quite a drop in animation quality ( and writing imo, but it has it's moments), because of tighter budgets I suppose. The show while on cartoon network was being funded by Mattel, but they pulled funding because of poor toy sales leading the cancellation.
not here
2023-11-30 22:07:41 +0000 UTCIt's character development! if anything
Liam Horton
2023-11-30 22:05:08 +0000 UTC#sundayrundown fun fact, Icon (the super hero representing the justice league) is a lawyer in his secret identity. perfect cute little nod to the comics
rickie woodson
2023-11-30 22:01:41 +0000 UTCNo I mean they’re reaction to it
J T
2023-11-30 21:54:55 +0000 UTCI see it on Hulu (am in US)
Ashleep
2023-11-30 21:54:08 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown Poor Wally man 😪🥲 Also, now, imagine watching that episode, with that death and that cliffhanger.. and knowing the show was getting canceled and wouldn’t return for 7 years ☹️🫤🙃
Kuro
2023-11-30 21:32:27 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown: "Oh, we can you know. We can love quite well…If not wisely." is one of my favorite lines from the show. Yeah, don't forget, Spike is still a vampire, no soul, but with just as many feelings, if not more! ;-)
Gwenhwyfar Aine
2023-11-30 20:18:17 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown the reason why the media gave the Justice League the credit for kicking the Reach off earth is because no one outside of the League and the Light knows about the Team’s existence. They already face hella public scrutiny, they’d face even more if the public knew their covert ops team was comprised of children.
Michael Pamon
2023-11-30 19:33:32 +0000 UTCBut there was nothing in the ep with cicile (or whatever) to show he was stalking her, had a secret room dedicated to his obsession, nor did he ever tie her up and threaten to kill her if she refused to admit her "love". So though obsession is not new, the difference in how he handled it with a soul is very different to how he handles it without one. In my opinion.
ray s
2023-11-30 19:20:41 +0000 UTCWell that was the last S2 episode of Young Justice and as I thought y'all didn't like what happened at the end. At least the reach is finally off earth and the league has finally been cleared of all charges, but now that damn Lex Luthor is the new secretary general of the UN and that's gonna be a big problem.
Brandon Gibbs
2023-11-30 19:17:04 +0000 UTCThe difference is he did not try to force celily. His morality wouldn't allow him to hurt the women he loves when he was human.
Christopher simeon
2023-11-30 18:59:08 +0000 UTCNothing prepares you for Wesley getting shot, and because we lost Doyle halfway through last season there are no guarantees that he was going to be okay.
Brendan O'Connor
2023-11-30 18:58:40 +0000 UTC#sundayrundown Young Justice was cancelled after this season (2013) due to poor toys sales (yes it was stupid), because of it's huge following it got renewed 6 years later (2019) but the series went from a big Cartoon Network budget to a streaming network, the animation quality isn't as fluid but all the voice actors returned.
J. J.
2023-11-30 18:46:36 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown - What a finale! No More Reach. Darkseid. Wally Dead. Oh My! It’s crazy how it’s been close to 10 years since this episode premiered. I was just starting high school when dropped and as someone who didn’t follow tv news or was online, I was vastly confused how an episode that’s littered with cliffhangers for another season… didn’t get another season for almost a decade! 1. You guys forgot about Adam Strange 😂 2. The reason the League gets credit is because the Team is a covert group. Most of them aren’t even known to the public outside of the main members.
Zee
2023-11-30 18:43:52 +0000 UTCCan't wait for next week.
Pajander
2023-11-30 18:22:41 +0000 UTCYeah, no. Being obsessed with a woman that doesn't care about him is not new for Spike. He did it with a soul and without a soul so Spike apologists have no reason to cite his lack of soul for his cringe behaviour.
Jay
2023-11-30 18:20:47 +0000 UTCYeah he stole buffy's underwear in episode 8 of this season. I understand they're watching 100 different things plus real life going on but it's not "character assassination" as Mickey put it, he was always like this.
Jay
2023-11-30 18:18:32 +0000 UTCDoes anyone know where episode blood ties of Buffy can be found. I don’t see it?
J T
2023-11-30 18:11:13 +0000 UTCSuraj every episode: Oh my god this vampire just KILLED someone! They definitely do be thinking they're not soulless monsters. Also Spike was always pathetic, Riley interrupted him when he stole her underwear a few episodes ago.
Jay
2023-11-30 18:08:52 +0000 UTCThey have a natural chemistry. They're a blast to watch
hannemanart
2023-11-30 17:47:02 +0000 UTCThe mental gymnastics have been underway for a long time. Are y’all really gonna act surprised and disgusted as Spike’s behavior? He’s been a soulless demon killer since we met him.
CWall
2023-11-30 17:41:00 +0000 UTCWally is my Flash specifically from the Justice League but I really loved this West too damn guess ill watch the reaction now
Daniel Gonzalez
2023-11-30 17:16:53 +0000 UTCWhile spikes behaviour cannot be excused, it can be understood. When you take into account that he has no soul. The way he approaches emotions is always gonna have some element of toxicity as long as he's still a soulless vampire. With that being said, I do think SMG and JM kill their scenes together.
ray s
2023-11-30 17:16:40 +0000 UTC#sundayrundown Angel said once that when a human is turned in to a vampire, it also projects part of their human self when it was argued that none of the human remains. It was revealed in a comedy moment. Angel hated his father and wasn't a great human, and thus the raging Angelus came about. Spike on the other hand was a spurned hopeless if not obsessive romantic poet (remember Celcily and his poem "My soul is wrapped in harsh repose"). It makes sense that as a vampire he becomes a pyschotic stalker who becomes obessive over those he 'loves.' He is the ultimate simp and always has been, and was the same with Dru, it just seemed normal as they were both vampires and she was also quite crazy.
It'sThatPixie
2023-11-30 17:07:20 +0000 UTCYou all are spot on in being simultaneously humored & horrified at spikes behavior. Yes spike has a certain sentimentality about him beyond most vampires (probably due to reminants of his human self), BUT Spike's a soulless vampire. The only reference he's had on love was drusilla, so of course his POV on love is unhealthy AF. Spike is a great character, and is at a very interesting point where he doesn't know who he is or where he fits. He has previously only known or been motivated by two things: killing for sport and being single-mindedly devoted to a woman. For 100 years it was dru & pillaging. Now he cant kill AND he has feelings for a slayer. The show has shown him do a 'good deed' but usually to get credit from buffy. Presently, I wouldn't say he wants to do good. I would say he doesn't know what he wants.
mary smith
2023-11-30 17:00:01 +0000 UTC"Endgame" garnered an average of 2.051 million viewers, making it Cartoon Network's highest rated show of the entire week and the second highest rated episode of the season after "Runaways". I know channels are in it to make money (and sell toys for their cartoons) BUT I will never forgive CN for cancelling this show. However it did drive the fan base to support the creators - and provide us 2 more seasons to enjoy. Miss Martian and Superboy were accompanied by Adam Strange when entering Rimbor's courtroom. We of course saw him earlier that season during the space adventure on Rann. I believed it was edited-out due to time constraints but when asked about the rest of the Runaways, Virgil responds: STATIC: Well, Arsenal was always more of a solo act. And the others are getting out of the game. Neut went back to his foster family, and Eduardo moved in with his dad. Even Tye went home. I guess his mom's evil boyfriend is out of the picture. WONDER GIRL: And Asami? STATIC: She's staying with Tye and his mom. Turns out she and Tye kinda had a thing. And none of us knew. The Atom perched on Captain Atom's shoulder makes me laugh, they should form their own "atom" club. (the Up and At 'Em Club?) There's so much more interesting information about this episode found on Weisman's Ask Greg section on A Station Eight Fan Web Site: https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1032
Chris
2023-11-30 16:47:57 +0000 UTCThey’ve watched 5x16. Rana mentioned it during Angel live watch.
Alison
2023-11-30 16:42:23 +0000 UTCI’m with you 100%!
Zee
2023-11-30 16:40:21 +0000 UTCSunday Rundown YJ: So you've now hit the season 2 finale, the biggest turning point in the show! This is one of my favorite finales of all time. Wally's death is one of the most heartwrenching deaths in all of television for me, and they set it up the entire season. His sacrifice is basically YJ version of *The Flash sacrifices themselves in a Crisis* (which was popularized by Barry Allen's death in 1985's Crisis on Infinite Earths), basically, when a Crisis goes down, a Flash dies saving the world/universe. Not only that, but we get the reveal that Savage and Darkseid have been working together the entire time, and makes Savage's plans get more interesting. Now keep in mind... THIS IS WHEN THE SHOW GOT CANCELLED. IT WAS CANCELLED, AND FIVE YEARS WENT BY UNTIL THE RETURN WAS ANNOUNCED, AND SIX YEARS UNTIL SEASON 3 EPISODE 1. They ended on the biggest cliffhanger imaginable, the death of Wally and the reveal of Darkseid, and then they got cancelled. As a huge YJ fan, it hurt so much, and was one of the many reasons fans campaigned for half a decade without falter or fail, to get the show back. YJ is the best adaptation of the DC Universe as a whole, and I will die on this hill.
Riley Wigmore
2023-11-30 16:28:59 +0000 UTCNot them all being confused at Spike's behaviour like "ok now its creepy..." he's a SOULESS VAMPIRE lol. his idea of love is twisted passion and obsession.
x_Rhi_x
2023-11-30 16:19:27 +0000 UTCthey were pretty far ahead of posting. not sure if they still are
x_Rhi_x
2023-11-30 16:18:30 +0000 UTCRight, that's what I have been waiting for
Christopher
2023-11-30 16:12:51 +0000 UTCWonder if they watched 5x15 right after this 😭
David NJ
2023-11-30 16:10:28 +0000 UTCI thought this episode was yesterday
Daniel Gonzalez
2023-11-30 15:55:41 +0000 UTCI'm still waiting
Daniel Gonzalez
2023-11-30 15:55:07 +0000 UTCMarketta thinks this Buffy episode is painful to watch. Heh. The pain is near.
Tasker Thorn
2023-11-30 15:53:52 +0000 UTC#SundayRundown I mean, it's not that shocking that Spike mixes love with obsession. Before his chip, Buffy was still Spike's obsession. He stalked and analysed her, really taking the time to understand her. Then the chip happened. They fought side by side, forging a sort of trust and reliance, but then Spike's makeout dream happened (truly realising his attraction). Nevertheless, it awakens his "feelings" for her, which continue to grow into a twisted form of obsession. Buffy, totally blindsided and disgusted by Spike's behaviour, tells him numerous times that he doesn't love her, and she's right. Spike *thinks* he's in love with Buffy, but it's merely lust and obsession. Like Buffy says, "You need a soul to love." Spike can *feel*, but I don't think he or even Drusilla can really and truly feel love like, say, Angel can. 'Cause what is love? Acts of selflessness? Growth, support, respect? I don't think Spike has done any of those things for Buffy. His "acts of selflessness" are selfish, 'cause he wants her praise and attention. He hasn't grown—not in the ways that matter. He supports her 'cause the chip forces him to. He doesn't respect her (for example, this entire episode. Spike doesn't respect her no's or her boundaries.) What Spike wants is to sleep with her. But that's just my two cents :)
hannemanart
2023-11-30 15:43:27 +0000 UTCAnd we had to wait 7 fucking years for the show to return
Noah Burke
2023-11-30 15:42:12 +0000 UTCspidey calls buffy an asshole it’s on sight
Josh
2023-11-30 15:38:53 +0000 UTCOh boy….
Jayla
2023-11-30 15:37:58 +0000 UTC
