Yeah, it's so much harder when your parents are in on judgment. Luckily my mom was great, a couple of my super religious aunties and uncles were not so much. They thought I was going down a dark path lol. Because I liked pokemon, dragon ball z, resident evil games, and alt/punk/metal/etc.
After Work Reactions
2022-11-24 18:09:03 +0000 UTC
thanks so much bud
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2022-11-24 18:03:44 +0000 UTC
Wow, I hate that I've been so busy this week and it took me so long to get back to both of your comments but I really appreciate both of you for taking the time to post these. First thanks so much Saul for your insightful comments in regard to my statements at the end of the video. Bella thanks so much for sharing your insight as well and speaking about your experiences and the experiences of your mother as well. Sorry, she is in pain and losing her independence but I'm happy you are growing closer.
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2022-11-24 17:56:36 +0000 UTC
Great Josh, it would be interesting to see the pics of the antique shop ππ»
BelladonnicHazeyJaneII
2022-11-24 17:41:50 +0000 UTC
Lol yeah, I still get thrown off a bit, I appreciate you taking the time to listen to me ramble lol. That's pretty cool living so close and your nan knowing some of his family. I figured someone would know something sketchy lol. The Nazi stuff is a bit wild but as you said as long as it stops at the collecting I guess it's all good. I would never collect it people would see the symbols and just make up their own minds it's not worth the risk lol. There's this antique store that has a bunch of it in my area. Next time I go I will remember to take a pick and post so you all can see.
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2022-11-24 17:34:32 +0000 UTC
(This was meant to be a reply to Ian richards, above)
Saul
2022-11-20 17:52:55 +0000 UTC
Good reaction and nice to hear your thoughts at the end
Josh
2022-11-20 14:00:08 +0000 UTC
Thanks bud, I appreciate that. Totally agree man, it is important to like what you like.
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2022-11-20 12:25:03 +0000 UTC
Insightful comment. In-group/out-group tribalism is irrational nonsense and the cause of most of the world's problems(except for football, where it's completely justified due to opposition teams all being cheating bastards who bought their way to victory instead of earning it like my team did). It'd be a small but positive step in the right direction if we could get rid of faith schools in this country, they're such antiquated, divisive institutions.
Saul
2022-11-19 15:02:00 +0000 UTC
As someone who was also into Star Trek and Blink-182 probably around the same time as you, and for similar reasons (not going to pretend my dismal corner of Britain was "murder capital" levels of bad, but poverty, drugs and crime are no fun to grow up around anywhere), I know what you mean about the sheer joyful escapism of that stuff. I also had some friends at the time who loved their punk/metal/goth music but weren't white, and one guy in particular, from a Bangladeshi background, got such absurd stick off his family just for enjoying what he enjoyed, I could never get my head around it. I'm not sure if his parents had some latent, decades-old fear that white lads who dress like Vyvyan (which was basically me from 17 to 23) are all racist thugs, or if there was some deeper fear about him turning his back on his own culture, but it made him so pointlessly unhappy and insecure over such a trivial thing that otherwise shone a light into his life.
Honestly, if we could replace all religious worship and cultural studies in schools with that Lemmy video on a constant loop, it would solve a lot of needless problems.
Ian Richards
2022-11-19 01:30:46 +0000 UTC
You're right about it being too late once you realise. She realised in her mid 40s, when I'd just left home and my brother and sister were in their late teens. She had a few great years, building her confidence, finding time for herself, going out more, she started going on long walks and got stronger and fitter than she'd been for years. It was great seeing her come out of her shell.
Then she started having health problems and went downhill fast, she was diagnosed with severe rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis, had to have a knee replacement at 50 and now she needs a wheelchair to leave the house and crutches to get about at home. It's been really difficult for her to finally have those few years of feeling great only to have to come to terms with being in pain everyday, losing her new found independence so quickly and needing my sister and I to care for her. One good thing has come out of it though, we've becone even closer since she became ill than we used to be :)
That is a good saying.
BelladonnicHazeyJaneII
2022-11-18 21:51:44 +0000 UTC
Loved hearing you talk about your experiences growing up at the end. You and Lemmy are totally right. In this day and age you should be able to like whatever you like with no judgment, but people are so quick to judge, gatekeep and put someone down for being different. But no worries here - we're all weirdos :P !
Joe Gardiner
2022-11-18 18:55:29 +0000 UTC
Your comments about yr mum hit home with me. She sounds similar to my mum who was constantly taught(and in turn taught it herself) that keeping your head down and not causing a fuss is its own reward. And it really isnβt, but by the time you realise it itβs too late.
Reminds me of that saying - we are cursed to live life forwards but only understand it in reverse.
Saul
2022-11-18 13:05:28 +0000 UTC
Oh ok cool thanks for the info bud π
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2022-11-18 09:55:20 +0000 UTC
Oh ok makes sense, thanks bud
After Work Reactions
2022-11-18 09:55:00 +0000 UTC
It was a good one I enjoyed it alot. I agree, much different than the beginning of the show.
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2022-11-18 09:54:38 +0000 UTC
Lol true π
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2022-11-18 09:53:47 +0000 UTC
Awesome bud π I'm looking forward to it.
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2022-11-18 09:53:26 +0000 UTC
I'm not sure if anyone has explained it to you yet, but those brief flashes of something else that show up on the screen, like at 14:40 in this vid, happen once in every episode of series 2. Back in the 80s there were a lot of conspiracies (and truths) about subliminal messaging being used in media, where a show, advert, or programme would flash an image on the screen for just a millisecond, not long enough to people to register that they'd seen it, to subconsciously implant an idea in the viewers' heads. The Young Ones parodied that with these noticeable image flashes.
Aissa Croft
2022-11-18 08:04:53 +0000 UTC
Just to mention the flashing images thing. That was a prank they were trying to play on the audience so they'd think there was a hidden message. Then just before the final episode there was a backlash against hidden "subliminal" messages in the media, so they had to cancel the last one which was meant to be a "Hah! There's no hidden message here and you just broke your VCR" or something.
Ian Webster
2022-11-18 07:56:26 +0000 UTC
Great comment Saul.
As a kid/teenager, I couldn't stand a lot of the 'girly' stuff other people thought I was supposed to like, princesses, dresses, pink things, make up, boy bands etc. I loved a mix of things - playing football with my brother, comedies, drawing, writing stories, rugby, folklore, true crime, mysteries, classic rock, animals. I'd have loved to have seen something like the Wonder Woman film you described. Women in films always seemed really boring to me, I can't think of any female characters off the top of my head that inspired me in any way or that I even really liked π€ the only woman I looked up to was my auntie because she was pretty tough, funny, independent and doesn't take crap from anyone. She was the opposite of my mum in a way.
I love my mum to bits, it's just that when I was growing up she was a lot meeker than she is now. All she ever considered being was a wife and a mum just like all the women she grew up knowing and seeing. She cooked, cleaned, struggled, always put us first and got walked all over by my dad until one day she was so unhappy she finally had enough.
I think subconsciously, seeing my mum, who'd done all the things she was 'supposed' to do and end up being pretty miserable throughout my childhood is part of what's made me gravitate towards people who DON'T conform, male and female.
I agree with your thoughts about the representation of different types of people in the media etc. In a way I get why some people dislike it (not the ones who don't like it just because of their own prejudices) but I can definitely see why it's important for some to see people they identify with doing things they otherwise never would have thought possible for themselves.
What you said about your sisters made me think about my mum. I wonder if she'd have been happier if she'd been shown there were other options. When she was young she really loved playing sports, particularly football and was really good at it. She used to play every day with her 3 brothers and all their friends. When she went up to secondary school she wanted to play football but was told no, football isn't for girls. She wanted to start a girl's football team herself but they wouldn't let her. She even made a petition and tried to start one anyway - so they threatened they'd stop her doing PE altogether and make her spend PE indoors, copying out of a book.
It makes me sad because it shows she DID have her own interests and ambitions at some point which didn't fit the stereotype, she just had it knocked out of her.
I like that girls nowadays can see some stronger female characters and sportswomen. Imagine a girl like my mum being able to see England's women win the World Cup and know they COULD do that one day rather than being told 'no, it's not for girls'.
BelladonnicHazeyJaneII
2022-11-18 05:28:33 +0000 UTC
This episode was a lot funnier than I remember. Lots of good Rik and Ade dialogue. And not too many goofy bits. I never realised how much better series 2 was until now. (If you compare this episode to, say S1E1, it's lightyears ahead. For me, anyway.)
Nell Sun
2022-11-18 05:18:41 +0000 UTC
The only thing about Lemmy that made me go 'hmm' was that he had a very keen interest in collecting Nazi war memorabilia. But he always claimed it was pure historical interest. (Mind you, that's what the Nazi priest in Father Ted said.)
And if it went any further than that it surely would've emerged by now. Also he was a big fan of the videogame Half Life, and I find it hard to fault him as a result.
Saul
2022-11-18 02:54:35 +0000 UTC
I remember seeing that Lemmy video too a while ago. It was very cool.
Your talk at the end of this episode made me think about the current backlash against the idea of 'diversity'. There's so much talk about 'forced diversity' and whenever I go online I get a bit sad at how negatively the idea is viewed - because it's only recently I've understood just how much it really means to someone from a minority to see someone like them actually represented on a screen, or in a comic or whatever. It can make all the difference - to see someone who looks like you doing something that you thought was not a possibility, it's a kind of YouTube tick of approval for that kid, it builds a bridge in their head from what once seemed impossible or not allowed, to something that now seems possible.
I remember thinking it for the first time when I watched the first Wonder Woman film, and Gal Gadot is just smashing shit up and whupping soldiers left right and centre; she properly leathers a tank in one scene, and then charges down the German army across No Man's Land...and I realised I'd never seen a woman do that kind of thing in a superhero film before, and for a second in my mind an image of my little sisters when they were small flashed up, and I thought how their daft little minds would have been blown to see someone of their gender doing 'boys's stuff' like that. It might've made all the difference if Wonder Woman had come out when they were little.
The same with you and your 'white' hobbies. It's one of the things that's most interesting about this channel, that you don't really conform, that there are photos of Lennon in the background, and a whole bunch of nerdy wonderfulness on your shelves. But it must have been isolating, and it must have been hard, and it was always something I wondered about, how difficult it was to have these interests in the black community. And I can well imagine that someone like Lemmy telling you 'fuck those haters' would've been like getting permission from life to do what you want.
And that's what the good thing about diversity is, about more and more people seeing representations of themselves in hollywood or on tv or on spotify. I've heard all the arguments about when diversity feels forced, or it feels like box-ticking, and I can understand that there's something about the constant push for it that often sounds preachy and smug.
But I just think about my little sisters, who when they were small were shy and quiet and cowed by louder girls, and I'd have loved them to see Wonder Woman running up a church tower and deflecting the heavy spread of machine gun fire with a tiny bracelet on her wrist, that realistically speaking is way too small to deflect even 10% of a machine gun spread, but I digress. Instead they were just given a VHS of Cinderella and had to watch that over and over until the adults in the family almost threw it away. And they're okay now my sisters, they're doing amazing things, but I think they never thought certain things were for them, certain stereotypical 'boys' things'.
Basically, I think guys like me who have seen ourselves represented on screen since forever often don't get just how big a deal it is for underrepresented people to see actors, or musicians or tv hosts(or whatever) who look like they do. We just think 'what's the big deal?' because it's so normal to us. But then I remember the look in my little sisters' eyes when they were watching the cartoon female characters they loved, and I just wish they'd seen those cartoon females do something a bit more interesting than clean up after talking mice and marry vaguely Aryan looking princes.
Apologies for the lengthy comment, I thought your talk at the end was interesting and I wanted to respond, Cheers.
Saul
2022-11-18 02:42:56 +0000 UTC
Another great episode. Compared to the first season you can see that they are more confident in wacky stories and destroying the place
Sadbnnuy
2022-11-18 02:40:17 +0000 UTC
Alexei Sayle's parts are kind of lost on me too. I think the exception is his drunk scouser in the party episode, which I did find funny.
ALW
2022-11-18 02:38:29 +0000 UTC
This is the only show which has quite a lot of parts I dislike (many of the cut away jokes and some of Alexei Sayle's parts) yet it doesn't ruin it for me and I still really love it overall :D
Josh, I like how you still have a few baffled expressions occasionally but you seem to have mostly got used to the lunacy now π
Thanks for sharing at the end, I always enjoy hearing you chat about your own life experiences etc. I remember seeing the video of Lemmy reading that letter a few years back and just watched it again. I hope it helped the young lad who wrote to him as well as any other people who needed to hear it. Lemmy did seem like a decent bloke. He was from Stoke-on-Trent originally which is about 30 miles from where I live, my great nan used to know some of his family members.
BelladonnicHazeyJaneII
2022-11-18 02:03:28 +0000 UTC
Couldn't remember this episode so well. Next one is really good though!