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[PATREON EXCLUSIVE] Bad Hasbara 60: Podspeed You! Black Emperor, with Efrim Menuck

Matt and Daniel are joined by Efrim Menuck of seminal Canadian post-rock band Godspeed You! Black Emperor to cover Radiohead’s zionism, how to make a political statement as an instrumental band, and the time he partied with Destiny’s Child. Did that really happen? You can only find out by watching!

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[PATREON EXCLUSIVE] Bad Hasbara 60: Podspeed You! Black Emperor, with Efrim Menuck [PATREON EXCLUSIVE] Bad Hasbara 60: Podspeed You! Black Emperor, with Efrim Menuck

Comments

Daniel I see you, I hear you, I giggled at tabernakba. But I think only the fans with French Canadian grandparents got anything out of it. The representation feels good

Toast Malone

Yo you're right, alkali is an Arabic word

Ibrahim Khatib

Such a treat. ❤️

Enname

Also excited for this episode! I’m a long time Radiohead hater, GSYBE fan. my best friend back in the day made their own t shirt but spelled emperor wrong lmao

Tammy

Just said to my partner like a clown: “whoa, of course Al-kaseltzer is an Arabic word!” Lolol would be Alkaline(probably tho??) seltzer I’m guessing but I am stoned rn. Appreciation to words 🏆

Tammy

Post Rock, ergo Propter Rock

A John

Yes please.

Enname

Yeah, I would love to see an episode about Jesse Brown too. He is clearly feeling some intergenerational trauma and I oscillate between feeling bad for him and being completely disappointed with his inability to express a single speck of empathy or horror at what’s being done to Palestinians, and am shocked by his meddling with other people’s journalism at Canadaland (he censored Paris Marx’s comments about the genocide causing Justin Ling to quit). I would love to see him debate and have to publicly defend his positions. Can Bad Hasbara host a debate between Jesse Brown and Martin Lukacs (who has done some great investigations into Canadian Hasbara and publicly spatted with Jesse) or Nora Loreto?

Isabeau

Signed up for Patreon finally! Just re: this episode. Also is, or was, a massive Radiohead fan up until the BDS debacle (and totally showing off here, but I attended Ed O'Brien's wedding back in the day - long story) and now I can't bring myself to listen to them anymore. I wonder do others struggle to separate the artists from the music when some of their politics is very dubious? Great episode as always.

Eavan Smith

I think Jesse Brown, the once celebrated media critic behind Canadaland, is going through a similar crisis to Howard Jacobson, wherein he deals with the horrors of Israel's war on Gaza by becoming obsessed with the rise of antisemitism at home. He's kind of an asshole but I do feel sorry for him; it sounds like he's experiencing a great deal of angst and genuine fear. I can think of at least one other example of a Jewish-Canadian public figure (post-Oct 7th) refusing to engage at all with Gaza but shifting their focus entirely to the rise in antisemitism (which, to be clear, seems real and is legitimately kinda scary). I'm trying to better understand the thought process because I think it may be possible to assuage some of these people's anxieties and thereby win them over. I'm not Jewish myself, but I do worry about antisemitism and I want to make sure the Palestine solidarity movement is a welcoming place for Jews, even if they have some attachment to Israel, real or purely sentimental.

Nicolay Hristozov

New CanCon idea: Someone needs to cover Jesse Brown's public mental breakdown. Nora Loreto might be a good guest for that.

Nicolay Hristozov

By the way, I think it is driving the local zios crazy!

Gerry Chidiac

Daniel, if you've ever been to northern BC, you will love this: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=8061707603920794&set=a.351159788308986

Gerry Chidiac

As an Australian, I would love to disown Nick Cave.

LeobaL

You could have reverse sponsorships, where you choose some company that isn’t onboard with BYD and shame them. “Today’s not-a-sponsor is Puma, who sponsors the Zionist soccer team! Don’t buy their shit!!”

Zacharias Björngren

Oops, should be Loud sound - https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/godspeeed-you-black-emperor-no-title-as-of-13-february-2024-28-340-dead

Kevin O'Dell

Thank you so much for this. I'm a big fan of GY!BE and am really enjoying their new album. A recent review, on Loudesound.com stated, "With a few honourable exceptions (Kneecap, Lankum, Dua Lipa, Massive Attack among them) the music world has been shamefully quiet on the subject of Gaza, so many artists who claim to be politically and socially conscious inexplicably losing their voices when confronted with one of the most horrific conflicts of modern times. No Title As of 13 February 2024, 28,340 Dead may be an instrumental record, but it stands as the most powerful artistic statement yet on a tragedy history will not forget". I was reminded of this listening to Efrim and yourselves. As for Radiohead, I threw all their music out. It wasn't a big deal compared to my rage at their lack of humanity and empathy.

Kevin O'Dell

Daniel needs to listen to Thrice to hear hard music that (over the course of their career) questions then mystifies the celebrates and then denounces Christianity, and then takes a sideways turn towards process theology and marxism.

Cassidy

Again, thank you guys SO much for being a safe, sane space. I am especially appreciating and enjoying the schedule release of past few weeks, with a Fri episode. It balances the grief and sadness of having to step away from my synagogue/missing Friday eve Shabbat service & Torah study. From the river to the sea, parasocial tho it may be, I’m really grateful for this community 🫶🏽

Emme

I'm a spoiled hog 😭

Suekainah Suliman

🐷❤️🇵🇸

Toby

✊ 🍉

Nate from Kalamazoo

Yeah. Hogs are being spoiled this week. ❤

S.G.

Back to back episodes? Nice! Shokran 🇵🇸

Hana Haltam


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