Skateboarder Artist Tier List
Added 2023-04-14 05:39:15 +0000 UTCThat thang long aint it.
Here is a more historical approach to the legends in skateboarding art, another viable version of this video would look more at current pros/ trendy names. Ted and I are open to doing that in the future, if that's something you want feel free to leave a name/ link you'd like to see in a part two.
If you enjoy this kind of art/ skateboarding content check out Ted's patreon
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should have talked about sebo walkers ass art
Boomer Johnston
2024-12-05 23:11:49 +0000 UTCgood job dr barrow
switchfrontnoseslide
2023-07-18 22:16:47 +0000 UTCNora V?
Seb
2023-06-30 14:42:18 +0000 UTCDefinitely include Mike Lottie in the next one
Sam Putnam
2023-06-28 22:10:27 +0000 UTCjamal williams
fs
2023-05-29 01:43:58 +0000 UTCgood job doctor barrow
Pierre Pressure
2023-05-15 04:11:08 +0000 UTCI agree that barry mcgee's stuff is kind of corporate, but c'mon ted, google corporate art and you get exactly marbies stuff. Typing this as I'm watching so I might exactly say what GH is gonna say haha. Not to say that marbies stuff is not executed well, but it's just very redundant at this point
TPB3333
2023-05-09 18:46:35 +0000 UTCThe content I didn't know I neededđđ
Manuel Salcedo
2023-04-30 18:09:20 +0000 UTCMichael Alvarezâïž
Fallas paredes
2023-04-30 04:16:02 +0000 UTCjon worthington, nick merlino, ludvig. def enough people to do a part 2
Michael Gasparovich
2023-04-27 03:13:43 +0000 UTCSpanky and Sebo Walker
1-800-dotcom
2023-04-21 20:44:09 +0000 UTCjoe roberts/LSDworldpeace?
Ethan Kulish
2023-04-20 21:51:21 +0000 UTCnext jaakko ojanen and arto saari photos!!!!
migi
2023-04-20 18:58:02 +0000 UTCJust want to throw Ryan Sublette in there :)
Dan
2023-04-20 17:51:36 +0000 UTCgood job doctor
migi
2023-04-20 15:22:12 +0000 UTCAgreed. We're all guilty of being ignorant at different points in our lives, myself obviously included. If we avoid having these conversations entirely, then people miss out on the opportunity to grow. Thanks for engaging with my comments thoughtfully.
AP
2023-04-19 00:37:16 +0000 UTCgood job doc
tristan smith
2023-04-19 00:28:00 +0000 UTCLetâs hope. Jensen is dope.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-19 00:08:58 +0000 UTC3) not saying itâs admirable. Itâs actually pretty lame, but I think, especially for those older guys, thereâs been a learning curve concerning that stuff that they havenât really caught up to. I canât put myself in his shoes, or any skater who grew up in that second wave of post-punk who learned from surfers, but Iâve had enough direct encounters with him to know that 1) very little of what he does or how he acts is premeditated or deliberately edgy, and 2) heâs definitely not trying to condone the acceptance of fascist imagery in that series. Weâre all learning here, some of us have better resources and more compassionate an patient friends than others, and maybe I wrongly choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. You canât really re-define swastika after ww2.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-18 23:44:03 +0000 UTCIt would probably be just a curb in Pasadena or something
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-18 23:32:53 +0000 UTCAll good. You make some good points and I went back and reconsidered Barry McGeeâs work. Youâre absolutely right: I cherry-picked a couple aspects of his work that had more to do with a bad COLLAB with Baker than his practice as an artist. His work is a lot more expansive and interesting than what I commented on, and I humbly stand corrected đđ»ââïž
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-18 23:29:14 +0000 UTCI live in the Bay Area, and the scene here is SATURATED with terrible late-Matisse imitators (many of whom also show at Hashimoto, Marbies gallery). I base my subjective judgment on what Iâve seen of her work and in consideration of all the bad versions of similar work that Iâve seen. I happen to like it, but that doesnât mean Iâm right. I study late 19th century watercolors of Florida. What do I know?
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-18 23:26:41 +0000 UTCWould love to see another one of these. Iâll mention Spanky, Lucas Beaufort, Paul Kobriger, J. Grant Brittain, and Matt Blease. Also think the skateboard music tier list would be sick Good job Dr. Barrow đ
Walter Farris
2023-04-18 22:49:23 +0000 UTCThis is really interesting
Patrick Smith
2023-04-18 19:58:08 +0000 UTCSecond this. Sage, Figgy, Barbee, Matt Hensley, Na-Kel, Genesis Evans, Jamal Smith (PoptartPete) r all sick
J O
2023-04-18 18:58:13 +0000 UTCThis is great thanks so much
Wilsot666
2023-04-18 08:48:11 +0000 UTCTouché, Dr. Barrow. Faith in your critique restored. Thank you for engaging respectfully with my caffeine-induced aggression.
Scottie
2023-04-17 21:25:35 +0000 UTCđ€ș perfectly executed, my liege
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-17 16:04:07 +0000 UTCIf Jason dill had an opportunity to go on joe rogan or Howard stern, but only under the proviso that he isnât allowed to smoke at all during the interview do you think he would do it?
dylan lewis
2023-04-17 13:34:53 +0000 UTCSkate musician tier list please king. Tommy Guerrero, Gillette, Bam etc
Top Gruyere
2023-04-17 11:33:51 +0000 UTCyall could also talk about artists who are well known within the skateboarding world for their art and not their skateboarding, like vcj, marc mckee, sean cliver, kevin ancell, andy jenkins, mike hill, jim phillipsâŠ
technofaza g
2023-04-17 08:56:18 +0000 UTCcompletely agree on the puleo critique. definitely one of the more interesting skaters out there.
Larry David's Prius
2023-04-17 08:09:17 +0000 UTCHey, the man himself! Yeah, I agree. This was kind of a narrow-minded take on my part. My concept of art and standards for it aren't any more valid than other people's, and probably not even consistent anyways. But I'd say your comment is interesting, and therefore art đ
angcient_rock
2023-04-17 05:55:45 +0000 UTCTed likes bioniclesđ
tumblr3000
2023-04-17 03:40:04 +0000 UTC1) This isn't the only piece, there's another I linked in my original comment that also employs a swastika with characters in a volkswagon. 2) Addressing your point on context of multiple priests, one priest is depicted with the star of david and the other has a swastika alongside the phrase "white power". There's nothing obvious in the work that implies one priest is worse than another. The fact that he made so many, sold them all at the same price, and that they all share materials / size / shape implies their equality (concerning). If I was an artist creating work with powerful white supremacist symbols, I would provide context to make sure it wasn't misinterpreted. This seems at a minimum irresponsible. 3) Which do you think is more reasonable: that Gonz used hate symbols out of ignorance for shock value in a handful of his older works (not saying he's truly a fascist) or that this is some brilliant, nuanced satire done with racist imagery that we should all admire?
AP
2023-04-17 02:19:36 +0000 UTCTough shit, I guess.
Scottie
2023-04-17 01:26:17 +0000 UTCTheyâre not brothers but they are both from Denver. @576757571111111.10
Peter Tanner
2023-04-17 00:30:50 +0000 UTCIs that maxipooooâs brother
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-17 00:13:10 +0000 UTCNext vid. Gloves off
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:57:50 +0000 UTCThank you! My only response is that artâhowever it is defined-doesnât have to be âsacred.â It can be pointless, ugly, stupid, good, whatever. Itâs only real requirement is that it be interesting (unlike my comment, maybe)
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:57:27 +0000 UTCLuckily this isnât the normal thing, and maybe I was a little dismissive and jaundiced in both cases, but yeah. People act weird. Like thereâs some kind of cognitive dissonance between my not being a huge fan of Barry McGee, liking Marbies art, and still being capable of writing a thoughtful review in Juxtapoz (whose subject was, actually, how looking closely at art can change your first impression of something). The irony.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:50:01 +0000 UTCWith this one piece.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:46:06 +0000 UTCIâm not the artist, so I cant speak for them, but fascist symbols and imagery have been appropriated and used in an anti-fascist context before, especially by artists. Also, since art uses symbols for things other than one singular message (unlike, say, politics) and also considering that Gonz has done literally hundreds of those small Pope figurines with all sorts of designs/symbols/words, it seems unlikely that heâd come out of his face and reveal himself to be a fascist.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:44:12 +0000 UTCThank you đ„ș
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:34:11 +0000 UTCSome people do it terribly, some people do it well. I think she does it well
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:33:54 +0000 UTCHe young
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:33:15 +0000 UTCNah he was kind of always that way
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:33:02 +0000 UTCI interviewed Mike in the first issue of Closer. Iâm a fan.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-16 23:32:25 +0000 UTCS tier video.
sillybilly
2023-04-16 20:55:11 +0000 UTCCongrats professor!
Maksym D Hutsulak
2023-04-16 19:51:04 +0000 UTCWorking on a revision rn be up soon
1
2023-04-16 18:04:50 +0000 UTCNot posting content solely because a handful of people canât engage in discourse like normal people is not the move. Just because someone goes good will hunting on your ass with their opinion on your opinion isnât a good enough reason to not speak your mind on controversial topics. If they think they can do better, then maybe they should be the ones making videos. đ«„
Jimbo
2023-04-16 18:01:38 +0000 UTCWould love to see you guys talk about kyler garrisonâs art. Heâs probably more well now for his art now but he rips
Peter Tanner
2023-04-16 16:21:30 +0000 UTCCan you explain what exactly about the statute with the words "white power" and swastikas could be considered thoughtful commentary or effective satire? You can't, because Gonz didn't provide any context for his work and seemingly used racist iconography solely to antagonize. This is all to say that Gonz is not infallible and that is a motif in his work.
AP
2023-04-16 14:19:01 +0000 UTCYeah i was suprised they didnt mention Parra when looking at Marbie, they were (rightly) heavily critical of other derivative artists and Marbie is impossible to talk about without mentioning some of the work is identical...(i know they're both influenced by Mattise but Marbie must of been way "influenced" by Parra!!)
genzedsdead
2023-04-16 11:59:11 +0000 UTCNot having heard the mp3 I can't judge but I wanna note there is a difference between actively creating a certain atmosphere (which does make you responsible) and having people overreact/take stuff out of context just to vent some of their own problems (which you're not responsible for). If you look at the world in general, we're at a crossroads, and having political conversations is more important than ever. We can't insulate entirely because that in itself would be an act of cowardice. Doesn't mean at all that every video has to be controversial from now on but you censoring yourself and going vanilla would be terrible for everybody.
Shredsi
2023-04-16 10:04:03 +0000 UTCJoa's watching too much Jordan Peterson to recover from the two irrelevant nobodies criticising him on a dying social media platform.
Shredsi
2023-04-16 09:58:22 +0000 UTCDude wtf is this the regular user interactions you get Ted?! Im seeing this whole story about the guy that got you fired in a new light reading this thread. It reads like academia grandpa canceling his Times subscription because he doesn't agree with an article. "I've lost all respect" because of a fuxking tier list video. Have a different opinion but stop "punishing" guys for saying something bad about your crush Barry mcgee (who's work is really not that great btw). Clown.
Shredsi
2023-04-16 09:54:25 +0000 UTCWhile I'm always in favour of maintaining a strong front against the right and its symbols, it requires transcendent-level brain yoga to assume Gonz's usage is anything other than commentary and satire.
Shredsi
2023-04-16 09:46:12 +0000 UTCGrazie!
Shredsi
2023-04-16 09:39:51 +0000 UTCThis was an awesome watch. I don't think it should replace your shitposty stuff at all but if you're still eager to branch out, this is for sure my favourite direction to go into: more brainy and informative stuff together with experts of the field in question. Thanks to you both!
Shredsi
2023-04-16 09:38:08 +0000 UTCEven just me covering the stuff on stream has lead to weird altercations in my patreon comments. This subject matter just does something weird to people and I donât think I want to have any part of it right now. Itâs stressful and it gets disrespectful/ personal way too fast. I donât want this community of people to turn into something toxic it bums me out when I open the app and see people cursing each other out, not the environment I want to be responsible for creating
1
2023-04-16 08:19:51 +0000 UTCGoddammit I was saving that for later. Gonna have to start downloading stuff soon as its up
Shredsi
2023-04-16 08:14:41 +0000 UTCGreat Job and Congratulations Dr. Barrow!
Kevin
2023-04-16 06:42:01 +0000 UTCwhy'd you get rid of the twitter rant mp3?
Exodus
2023-04-16 05:51:02 +0000 UTCI really enjoy Mike Lottieâs art; would have liked to hear your guysâ opinion on him. Itâs like a mix of a doodle style with metal themes similar to neckface. It doesnât have the raw âpurposefully badâ style of neckface, but the more refined popular rounded drawing youâd associate with a cartoon while having more metal/edgy subject matter. Gives it a cool juxtaposition. Also amazed at how fast he creates his work considering most of it is pointillism.
Insomniakctually
2023-04-16 03:44:04 +0000 UTCIâd like to see a âcity skate sceneâ tier list!
austin
2023-04-16 03:04:06 +0000 UTCgood job dr barrow, its a shame marbies art is rly corporate memphis adjacent cause its quite nice : /
xrS
2023-04-16 02:57:34 +0000 UTCThat is cool! But I can't find the article while searching. Is it deleted?
Chrizzler
2023-04-16 02:14:11 +0000 UTCgood job dr. barrow
stefanmaybe
2023-04-15 23:44:49 +0000 UTCchris milic?!
Miles Melo
2023-04-15 23:12:54 +0000 UTCWeâre going to have a community overhaul
1
2023-04-15 23:05:57 +0000 UTCif your critique is that I cared enough to post that comment, I can simply say you cared enough to respond to it. So, are you going to cry?
Jordan
2023-04-15 23:05:07 +0000 UTCBut they are on his ass tho lol
Alexander Cantu
2023-04-15 22:58:22 +0000 UTCHe doesnât have to lay off anything
dylan lewis
2023-04-15 22:41:13 +0000 UTCthis was really enjoyable, but you've got to lay off the "libtards are on my ass" thing. Edit: also, that painting (i think? or mixed materials idk) at 1:01:51 is super cool, never seen it before
Jordan
2023-04-15 20:42:08 +0000 UTCWas missing the Jah in this
Chris
2023-04-15 18:26:00 +0000 UTCLol
Scottie
2023-04-15 14:57:59 +0000 UTCTough shit, I guess.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-15 14:57:07 +0000 UTCHow do comment on skateboarding and don't know who Brian Lotti is.
Armin HalvadĆŸiÄ
2023-04-15 14:51:54 +0000 UTCS tier post righ here.
Armin HalvadĆŸiÄ
2023-04-15 14:45:51 +0000 UTCDo a tier list of 9 club part reviews by the skater. Mark appleyards is pretty haggard to audibly listen to.
Jimbo Shrump
2023-04-15 14:33:35 +0000 UTCâCredibilityâ I think is my point of contention here, and I find your response particularly amusing coming from a self-proclaimed âart-criticâ with their education credentials in their Instagram bio. Joa talks frequently about âcredibilityâ throughout his content in terms of skateboarding and thatâs why I mentioned it. Although after reading his response to my earlier comment, he restored any doubts I was having about his artistic integrity. I never said that I expected either of you to be a â90âs street art expertâ but I would expect a self-respecting yuppie with a PhD to engage with their critical thinking skills a little better than you did here. Iâve lost all my respect for your opinion after watching this video and your subsequent reply to my call out. I will no longer be subscribed to your Patreon and hope someone with more authority checks you soon so you can take it to heart and make better informed critiques moving forward. This disappoints me as I really appreciated your recent article about Tyler Ormsbyâs work and found your words there insightful and articulate. You spewed some garbage drivel in this video and I think you should be disappointed in yourself.
Scottie
2023-04-15 14:25:14 +0000 UTCI was hoping for a deeper dive into Max Palmer...but you already kinda covered him.
DG Megadoodoo
2023-04-15 14:14:08 +0000 UTCI feel your pain
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-15 12:40:09 +0000 UTCI used to like dill but success has turned him into such an insufferable hipster douchebag
dylan lewis
2023-04-15 12:38:52 +0000 UTCtotally agree. I love Nick's art and Lucero is important.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-15 12:37:41 +0000 UTCParticularly the work from his years before his death when he was bed ridden
Bert Ross
2023-04-15 12:24:42 +0000 UTCWas literally thinking this the whole time, she has a great understanding of colour and form but i couldnt help but see just how derivative of matisse her work is
Bert Ross
2023-04-15 12:23:56 +0000 UTCNick Jensen and John lucero couldâve been on the list
Cman
2023-04-15 10:26:32 +0000 UTCMaybe talk about Kevin Walsh. He's done many series for Creature that are all pretty rad. I like his work way more off of skateboards, as I feel you can appreciate the pieces far more than you can when placed on a skateboard deck as medium. Tim Baron is a other guy who's done art for Creature and a few other brands, but he may be less interesting. Anyways, keep it up fellow bionicle enjoyers
Berra Hater
2023-04-15 09:31:59 +0000 UTCtalk about joas art
Coinstar
2023-04-15 07:02:21 +0000 UTCSebo Walker
ĐĐ°ŃĐ° ĐĐ”ŃĐșŃĐ»ĐŸĐČ
2023-04-15 06:37:50 +0000 UTCJoe Roberts S Tier
Bluntslideofdoom
2023-04-15 06:13:48 +0000 UTCGonz going full Tau.
Ross Lucas
2023-04-15 05:34:03 +0000 UTCJohn hill just made a mean comments video we must watch that please
Jâsia Whang
2023-04-15 04:48:57 +0000 UTCGood one. Took the skate Twitter thing down?
D
2023-04-15 04:04:54 +0000 UTCDonât you ever apologize to anyone ever.
Jimbo
2023-04-15 03:22:53 +0000 UTCIâll upload it tomorrow onto the vod doc
1
2023-04-15 03:21:41 +0000 UTCgood job Dr. Barrow! đ cool video :) liked your guys' insights and placements. cool to learn some artists and art terms from Ted too. the title of artist is kind of sacred to me, so what I'm about to say might be a little too serious or extreme. but I think a lot of skaters who try to make things tend to make random, kind of thoughtless stuff that doesn't really say anything; doesn't feel like their art expresses any interesting ideas or feelings, or is born out of any passion. like when i look at most of this stuff, i think and feel almost nothing. which honestly makes sense, 'cause i feel like most skaters aren't very cultured or deep people :-/ i think a lot of them just enjoy the process, which is fine, but that makes them closer to hobbyists than artists imo.
angcient_rock
2023-04-15 03:19:54 +0000 UTCI liked the video, pretty interesting. I especially liked the Ed Templeton stuff cause I grew up skating basic toy machine red monster decks and when I came back to skating a few years ago I wanted to skate a toy machine cause I like the style of the art but there's just something seriously not right about the graphics (other than the red monster) that makes me uncomfortable. Like wtf is this: https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Cruiser_Sect_Complete/descpage-TMCS82CMP.html. Ig I just don't like the intensity of the humor on the bottom of a skateboard, and I also hated the Tampa park and the baker graphics but to say something more positive, I was surprised to see how many skaters make like actual pleasant art. I don't know much about art so I'd like to see more of this kinda stuff it was nice
Danny Banegas
2023-04-15 02:53:53 +0000 UTCFrankie Villaniâs fursure
Iridewoodlmao
2023-04-15 02:05:40 +0000 UTCWhy did ye delete the audio?
Josh Calvo
2023-04-15 01:02:33 +0000 UTCalso blinkerfluid ig
Felix Fitton
2023-04-15 00:43:52 +0000 UTCgood job dr. barrow, glad u like bionicles!
Leopold
2023-04-15 00:25:44 +0000 UTCor possibly the Barroas?
Nature Table
2023-04-15 00:18:57 +0000 UTC576757571111111.10 on instagram should of put him on the list
Felix Fitton
2023-04-15 00:18:12 +0000 UTCYou and Dr Ted (congrats) need to open an indoor skatepark/benevolent media empire called the Joarrows.
Nature Table
2023-04-15 00:17:17 +0000 UTCIâll put it on the vod doc, I think I wanna just leave it as a bonus thing cause itâs a little repetitive
1
2023-04-15 00:07:45 +0000 UTCDoes Ted go by Ted because if he went by Theo his name would sound like wheelbarrow? Sincerely, another Theo
Theo
2023-04-15 00:05:33 +0000 UTCIâll put it on the vod doc, I think I wanna just leave it as a bonus thing cause itâs a little repetitive
1
2023-04-15 00:04:54 +0000 UTCEnjoyed the twitter rant; bummer to see it taken down.
Cam Jimmo
2023-04-15 00:03:31 +0000 UTCIâve seen my fair share of Barry McGee installations, and I agree that hes up to a lot more than what we talked about. However, âcredibilityâ has very little to do with an opinion video, and nobody is claiming to be an expert on early 90âs street art here.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-14 22:57:50 +0000 UTCSeems like a significant oversight to avoid mentioning Jerry Hsuâs history of fascist references in his art: https://nazigold.tumblr.com/
Nature Table
2023-04-14 22:45:05 +0000 UTCgood job dr. Field
Jawn Shanahan
2023-04-14 22:34:29 +0000 UTChi can you please put jerry in the S tier so he doesn't shut down your patreon and make you move back in with your parents
Jawn Shanahan
2023-04-14 22:29:43 +0000 UTCAgreed - looks like Coachella/horrendous neo-liberal sculptures placed in deserts around California
Scottie
2023-04-14 22:21:21 +0000 UTCagree re kyler garrison
JP
2023-04-14 22:19:22 +0000 UTCits pretty prescriptive to insist art be appreciated/interpret/discussed in a certain way, or that one needs to be 'qualified' to speak about art as if its some sacred entity. i dont think theres anything wrong in blind responding to selected artworks and describing the reaction / aesthetic experience it provokes in you and being transparent about that being your (i.e. joa's in this instance) approach - those were also the most compelling moments of the vid in my opinion. yes more thorough research and better selected examples would be required for a serious/academic approach but it's a youtube tier list vid, its not masquerading as any authority or claiming rigorous analysis of art careers. i did expect ted to call the cutouts derivative tho..
JP
2023-04-14 22:16:10 +0000 UTCgreat video guys. although gotta disagree on janoski, his work is terriible
JP
2023-04-14 21:56:42 +0000 UTCi kinda like marbie's work, it uses colour and form expressively and economically to create subtly disquieting, unknowable figures, but if anything i find it wears the matisse influence too heavily to justify its height on this list. the capitalist hellscape take seems lazy to me - you could as equally argue its subjects are navigating the isolation of that very space.
JP
2023-04-14 21:52:53 +0000 UTCYeah that's all very fair, I had a chaotic week with the Twitter stuff and was underprepared in this video. Definitely could've done better on my end but I think Ted did great in this video so it's worth sharing. Next time I'll definitely do a better job
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2023-04-14 21:37:27 +0000 UTCJoa - I really appreciate your commentary about skateboarding and its current industry position, but think that you presented a gross oversimplification on a couple of the artists mentioned in this video. Using your Barry McGee section as an example, his practice extends far beyond the optical-illusory patterns. detailed caricatures. and lettering you primarily focused on in this video. Given your known interest in photography, I expected you to cover his prolific amount of photo works. Are you familiar with the image collages he displays alongside his work? i.e. did you or Ted even bother to look at one of his installations before forming the opinions you displayed here? However, I do agree with your points about the recent Baker board series visually and think that the compositions appear rushed. I think that if you are going to deliver critical opinions on artists adjacent to the sphere of skateboarding you should take more time to become familiar with their body of work as a whole and their respective ethos, as I don't think you are as qualified to speak about art in the same way you discuss skating. Your placement of Barry's work below Marbie's made me lose a lot of respect for your opinion, and I'm similarly questioning Ted's credibility given his praise of Marbie's derivative cutouts. Sincerely, a disappointed viewer and usual enjoyer of your content
Scottie
2023-04-14 21:36:32 +0000 UTCThis was great, thanks fellas
evcardin
2023-04-14 21:20:54 +0000 UTCWell youâve convinced me
1
2023-04-14 20:53:43 +0000 UTCgiven the through-line of criticism for artistic unoriginality, it was a bit puzzling why marbie's art ranked so high given that it is stylistically and formally indistinguishable from the flat-art/corporate memphis style of our contemporary capitalist hellscape. that style of art has been played out for years and marbie's version of it unfortunately brings nothing new to the table :(
b60231
2023-04-14 20:52:48 +0000 UTCMeh nah
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-14 20:49:54 +0000 UTCFirst - I never accused Gonz of being a Nazi, just thought it was notable that he's used swastikas / other white supremacist iconography in his art with no explanation. Second - If Gonz had given any indication that there was a explicitly satirical or thoughtful reason behind those works beyond a juvenile attempt at shock value, then I would be more than happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Shock value alone is a deplorable reason to use racist imagery. I think the best thing to do would have been to say: Hey, Gonz has made art in the past that uses these hateful images with little context, and while we don't think he lives by these principles, this was clearly the wrong decision on his behalf.
AP
2023-04-14 20:17:54 +0000 UTCđ€Ł yeah how could I not have consulted slap on whether someone might be a Nazi for, as you say âusing fascist imagery?â But thatâs how oversights work. Some ideas are so stupid you donât see them
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-14 19:50:12 +0000 UTCRight. Most likely just satirical art
Grant McVoy
2023-04-14 19:41:51 +0000 UTCIâve already defended Nicks work on Jenkem
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-14 19:41:04 +0000 UTCCould be commentary regarding a Polish salesman selling cyanide gas to the Nazis in Auschwitz. Later fearing for his life, joined Catholic Church, became youngest bishop in Poland (1958). After his predecessor was assassinated, the ex salesman assumed the papacy as Pope John Paul 2nd. Or Gonz could be a nazi lolâŠwho knows, who cares. Donât assume anything, find out for yourself.
Grant McVoy
2023-04-14 19:36:46 +0000 UTChttps://www.nickjensen.co.uk/
Chrizzler
2023-04-14 18:51:39 +0000 UTCCongratz Dr Barrow! Why no Nick Jensen on this list?
Chrizzler
2023-04-14 18:47:36 +0000 UTCYou should do Chris milic, Spanky, Pushead, Neen Williams, Jeremy Klein, Marc McKee
the Boy with the Black Dog
2023-04-14 17:53:52 +0000 UTCSeems like a significant oversight to avoid mentioning Gonz's history of using fascist symbols in his art. https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=99971.msg2807974#msg2807974 and https://dch81km8r5tow.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Photo03_3.jpg
AP
2023-04-14 17:51:28 +0000 UTCLove you Dr Barrow
Bray Raab
2023-04-14 17:36:03 +0000 UTCGreat job Dr. Barrow! Would you consider ranking skaters as musicians? I know the medium is totally different, but there's some gr8 source material to be had.
pizzafliptofakie
2023-04-14 17:33:00 +0000 UTCmax and cyrus in part 2
fml
2023-04-14 17:09:25 +0000 UTCGood job Dr Barrow
blockmuncher
2023-04-14 17:09:14 +0000 UTCAwesome work. Thank you
Rowan D
2023-04-14 16:42:58 +0000 UTCGood job DR barrow
varialflipswag
2023-04-14 16:05:19 +0000 UTCYou get around to checking your dm? I thought it was interesting at the very least
varialflipswag
2023-04-14 16:01:53 +0000 UTCgood job dr barrow
Max Orozco
2023-04-14 15:50:41 +0000 UTCThank you Dr. Barrow and Joa, this was great, super refreshing, and inspiring! I would love to hear you talk about kyler garrisonâs paintings and also about airbrushing as a technique in general which seems to have become more popularized over the last few years.
Trader.joe
2023-04-14 15:50:12 +0000 UTCThis was a good one
Adam Harrison
2023-04-14 15:45:32 +0000 UTCwe need a bionicles tier list with dr. ted
oatmeal steve
2023-04-14 15:35:07 +0000 UTCDr. Barrow got his PhD and dropped a lecture on us
Juuls4school
2023-04-14 15:14:26 +0000 UTCthe H&R Block ad at the bottom of the screen reminded me to do taxes today, thank you joa
J O
2023-04-14 15:12:19 +0000 UTCgood job Dr. Barrow
Peter Ferraro
2023-04-14 15:00:59 +0000 UTCgood job dr berra
Rodrigo Santana
2023-04-14 14:34:20 +0000 UTCgood job dr. barrow! and very happy you like bionicles
Garrett G
2023-04-14 13:45:40 +0000 UTCgood job dr barrow
Johnnybaby4ever
2023-04-14 12:36:39 +0000 UTCIt's by a painter named "Basher." He works at a place called "Hospitality House Community Arts Center" in San Francisco and, I think, lives in the Tenderloin. It's a cool place: the only art org that was open during the pandemic, and the only art I could see in person in 2020. He's a pretty trippy dude.
Theodore Barrow
2023-04-14 12:03:56 +0000 UTCGood job dr barrow. I wanna know how yâall feel on Brian Andersons paintings
Giovanni morales
2023-04-14 11:58:48 +0000 UTCGood job Dr Ted
Dylan Cherwinski
2023-04-14 11:52:06 +0000 UTCyou missed the goat, Dane Vaughn
Lucas Thurston
2023-04-14 11:43:57 +0000 UTCIt would be interesting see a tier list comparing the art of Jim Phillips to other counter culture pop artists such as Ed Roth, Robert Williams, S.Clay Wilson and Pushead.
Barefoot Bomber
2023-04-14 10:53:45 +0000 UTCgood job đ
Bincent
2023-04-14 10:20:32 +0000 UTCCongratulations Ted! The neoliberal hellscape board is about twitter and not related to neoliberalism and what it changed the world into since the 80s? Since Jerry posted about Adam Curtis and his series "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" I thought it was related to that. But I wouldn't want to be on twitter either.
Andz
2023-04-14 09:47:43 +0000 UTCWould love to hear your thoughts on Joe Roberts art for GX
Alexander Charos
2023-04-14 09:34:38 +0000 UTCNuclear worm #1
Inept Lover
2023-04-14 08:51:38 +0000 UTCNice job Mr. Ed. Whereâs the Greyson Fletcher art. Some of the worst stuff I have ever seen. Also does Benny Magliano count as an artist since heâs like the creative director for Hockey?
Sleeping in Jeans
2023-04-14 08:00:17 +0000 UTCI LIVE LAUGH LOVE SKATEBOARDING
Eth
2023-04-14 07:38:09 +0000 UTCTed collab vids are the baste
Jimi Wilson
2023-04-14 07:29:01 +0000 UTCGood job Dr. Barrow! If you guys do another one Iâd like to see you talk about Piet Parra (even if theyâre more skateboarding-adjacent rather than a professional skateboarder)
myhops
2023-04-14 07:21:27 +0000 UTCGood Job Ted. Can we get an ID on this very nice art on your wall?
Shredsi
2023-04-14 07:10:44 +0000 UTCcongrats sir barrow
Jack The Human
2023-04-14 06:04:13 +0000 UTCwoooooooooooop
Jack The Human
2023-04-14 06:02:56 +0000 UTCgood job Dr. Berrow
yoloboy
2023-04-14 05:47:05 +0000 UTCGood job dr.barrow
Estevan Lopez
2023-04-14 05:44:40 +0000 UTCgood job dr. barrow
anonymous
2023-04-14 05:44:01 +0000 UTCFAKIE MANNY FAKIE TRE ON A 20 FT CURB ON UR BITCH ASSâŠ!
yoloboy
2023-04-14 05:42:11 +0000 UTCcongrats Dr Barrow!!
HaveANiceDay
2023-04-14 05:41:59 +0000 UTCMY CRACKYđ
yoloboy
2023-04-14 05:41:26 +0000 UTCSmh was just about to put my phone down
Steve Berra
2023-04-14 05:41:13 +0000 UTCWASSUP
yoloboy
2023-04-14 05:40:46 +0000 UTCLETS GO BITCH
yoloboy
2023-04-14 05:40:43 +0000 UTC
