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Post Soty Q/A

Hey guys leave me some questions or opinions in the comments, my soty video is out on YouTube and I’m just about ready to permanently move on from this year. So let’s wrap it up 💯

Post Soty Q/A

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Yeah, Guy was the third person in the running for SOTY that year, and I agree he also deserved it and would have been a better choice. I just didn't mention him to avoid my post being too long, but you elaborated on that far better than I could have. I'm just more of a fan of figgy's style of skating personally. I think he had multiple parts and I remember constantly seeing footage of him on thrasher, then was just blown away at the scale of some of the switch tricks he was doing for the time period. I thought it was definitely between figgy and guy, and I remember being so disoriented when David Gonzalez won. That's when I felt they started to choose a SOTY based on image and how that individual could represent or benefit Thrasher. It was the beginning of some questionable SOTY choices (with many exceptions, AVE included), and yeah I agree that Thrasher may be on a path of diminishing importance. Honestly, I hope so because there're so many other sick skate mags and media outlets that better represent what I understand core underground skateboarding to be

SlickRick69

call

Fastmustach3

How do u find a filmer

Jake

I know, like, they don't blend in entirely but enough so that it doesn't look that good. Imo anyway

Dávid Lizom

yet not the color of cement or plywood

Barefoot Bomber

Black wheels look stupid. They blend in too much with the color of asphalt

Dávid Lizom

I agree but I think it should also allow footy from the year prior if the part was released early in the year like T-funks first part as he wasn’t really stacking for multiple years just a single year which is how long it usually takes to film a 5-6 min part

zacho

Guy Mariano I believe lost to David Gonzales and if not I remember being 2013 because that’s when pretty sweet came out and everyone was going nuts that Guy just did what Eric did back in ‘03 for yeah right by wowing us with a ground breaking tech rail trick (switch tre nosegrind) and being at the age that he was and giving us that and being stubbed the SOTY win…that’s when I personally saw that SOTY decline. The last couple years have been completely off pretty much except for 2015 because AVE killed that Vans video and he was up there in age during that time as well but in terms of image I can see why they chose him but if that’s the case Brian Anderson was SOTY back in like ‘97 and he’s from the girl/chocolate party so idk why you wouldn’t give it to someone like GUY of all people but from I can see it’s all about politics with Thrasher. I said it before recently and now it’s starting to stick..Thrasher is going out in terms out being the premier skate platform for content or anything skateboarding right now, at one point they weren’t and it looks to be going back to that

Ty

I think he said on live once that the best part was T-funks “Tyson and T-funk” while Nyjahs “need that” had the highest skill level

zacho

soty was a let down because the skating doesnt match the reward their making an absolute fucking killing with the soft goods and they wont even come to the spot with an oversized novelty cheque and a trophy as underwhelming as it was jamie griffin got a fucking ring, a trophy and possibly a full eye contact bryan arnett suckjob for winning batb. tyshawn got an instagram post. like atleast try a little bit do a fucking video or event like they put more effort into celebrating halloween than they do into awarding soty

Jake Lewis

do you cook?

DanTheMan4

who do you think had the best part overall? and which part (since everyone dropped at least 2)

Edgar Quintana

😱

Jimbo

Im not gen z you fruit

Jimbo

Pros or Ams who don’t talk to anyone at the park or at a spot except for there homies

Alex Clayton

they should wait til the year is actually over before awarding it, i don't get the urgency. like i think when "john's vid" came out in December a couple years ago soty had already been given out. also, i like soty being more at Thrasher's discretion, more about who they like or who they feel should represent skateboarding. feels like the days of guys like Salman Agah, Chris Senn, Brian Anderson getting it are over. i don't like how competitive and straight forward it is now, seems counter to the spirit of skateboarding, or at least Thrasher's skateboarding.

angcient_rock

not to say that these people don't ever have a chance, but it clearly is all for show

Lorenzo Frijas

Stacking of footage for multiple years and dumping it in November doesn’t seem fair to proficient skaters like Louie who consistently drop parts. Thoughts on a rule where Thrasher only accepted footage filmed in that year? It would be hard to police but would make it a more even playing field

bailey

Hacky

Anthony

how much do you think recency bias comes into play? I feel like if the t-funk parts were swapped so the china banks ollie dropped with all the soty parts he probably would have won (assuming it was between him and tyshawn like you said in the soty vid).

Zachary

other mags dying led to thrasher platform capitalisming itself into being *the* mag, *the* voice etc. So now we all treat it like it needs to represent all of us, when it can't and shouldn't. Fuck transparency and voting for soty, fuck soty runs and the gamification of it all, as if there are rules and strats and metas that matter. They don't, and it was better when it was phelps arbitrarily deciding and not giving a fuck about polling the audience for approval.

j2theohnoez

Touch on slappy’s trucks too if you can

Brandon

Should other mags start their own soty

Mo Oseguera

SOTY is just a glorified popularity contest Tyshawn is blowing up outside of skateboarding because the shit he does is much more relatable to the average person than some dude in short shorts making 20 stairs look easy. T Funk should've won tho.

dbharr17

Something that I’ve been thinking about over the past day after seeing your video video is I think that ppl are tying their personalities way too closely to what they are a fan of. During the game awards ppl were going into a full blown meltdown when a game they liked didn’t win and today the same thing is happening with the golden globes nomination being announced. Almost as if it’s an attack on who they are that their fav skater/movie/show/game didn’t win. Curious to hear your thoughts on this

AstroWaves

Looks like it

Luke Seaman

did soty vid get taken down?

Hugo Dixon

how's your day going

ollie

Christ we need some transparency from thrasher. I just recently got in an argument on twitter over whether or not tyshawn is a creative skater. How can people still argue he’s creative when there’s a million people doing more interesting tricks?

Connor

Do you think “thrasher skater of the year” is supposed to be the best skateboarder of the year or just thrasher’s favorite of the year?

Matthew McDole

I don’t want to unsubscribe, I genuinely enjoy paying you to do what do and I very much like your work but I’d much rather see you actually enjoy it as well

charles

A bit off topic, but pretty sure I got the “politics” thread nuked on Discord 😂 shit is gone now. Just tried to run 1 antifa joke through it and it self destructed. 🤷‍♂️

Rama

I had to take it down it has the potential to get someone fired which is bad, I’ll put it on here though

1

put the soty this soty that video back out talk ya shit king let ya nuts hang

Jimi G

On the topic of exploitation of a skaters labour by their sponsor, would you advocate having the filmers maintain control of the clips so they can bargain collectively with skaters against the company for fair compensation? Or do you think something else could work?

Lucas

I'm curious about how they will handle Tyshawn when he shall go for soty another time. For now, he won it in a five year time span (like Chris Cole did: 2005/2009). And I think that these two years will not be the best he can do. So assuming he will just get better - especifically at his craft at of jumping high and/or long - and nobody can keep up, how will they not give it to him everytime he's putting out footage. Will they increasingly make it more obvious that the person with the best "play by our rules, then you'll get it"-approach will win, or what is this fiesta going to turn into, if they will not (like this year with nyjah) give the title to the person that perfected their ideal skater the best? In addition to that, would argue Nyjah should have won the trophy, since the archive of Thrasher released footage is similiar with Nyjah's skating, like trickwise. Tricks themselves are the best way of comparing skaters performances and Trasher most commonly posts Streetstyle skateboarding, e.g. grinding, flipping, manualling or riding the board in a technically impressive manner. Nyjah would by any means fit in Thrasher's portfolio of prestend skaters, while doing the hardest shit. He is like the prime example of my point prior, that once a person is that good at skating, Thrasher is sort of in a need to find an excuse of not giving that person the trophy, since the most dangerous/technically ambitious skating would then have to win everytime. That might leave the opportunity for Nyjah, to always win soty when he pleases. Besides all that, it is quite common in other sports, that a individual won the highest form of solo reward several times in a row.

Philip

Would you consider trying out Slappy Trucks? Your product reviews are really insightful

William Lanter

FA been kinda stagnant, louie’s keeping it going footage wise

Brandon

Do you have anything else to comment on regarding Scientology trying to weasel its way into skateboarding through cariuma/berrics/braille and how the fuck this many people even consider joining the cult created by a 1970s science fiction ginger hack.

Kason Haar

In the Season Finale of the Bunt, Mason said he’s a fan of your videos (specifically the Tyshawn table video). How does it feel to have pro skater fans (besides your close friends)?

Davis Campbell

^from wikipedia

JP

Aktiebolag (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈâktsɪɛbʊˌlɑːɡ], "stock company") is the Swedish term for "limited company" or "corporation". When used in company names, it is abbreviated AB (in Sweden), Ab (in Finland), or, rarely, A/B (dated), roughly equivalent to the abbreviations Ltd. and PLC. The state authority responsible for registration of aktiebolag in Sweden is called the Swedish Companies

JP

What does the AB in Last Resort mean?

gay_bird_moment

How much money would you need to be exclusively an street league commentator? (Assuming they’d be down)

Josh Calvo

Are you going to do the end of the year skateboarding awards like you did last year?

Buster LLoyd

hell yeah Spanky. I hope wades in there too. age disadvantage is huge!!

Cole

Is thrasher still the cool kids table? Or are they just the rich kid now?

Daniel Gallant

what is the likelihood of a riders sponsors paying or incentivizing thrashers choice? good vid and loved your idea for the voting systems. somethings gotta change cause im really over what's happening with soty. smelt extra fishy this year

Cole

Not that anyone cares, but I like your non-SOTY content much more than SOTY content. It's getting pretty tiring talking about the Tyshawn discussion, either the controversial switch ollie or skaters 'gaming' the SOTY system. You can pump an episode of hateline and a park review into my veins, though.

Jordan

What do you think about Thrasher adding people to the SOTY contenders that have no chance of winning but need to seem like they're woke by adding women and disabled skaters to the list

Lorenzo Frijas

Sound points about SOTY. I'm also glad you sound like you're ready to move on because the discourse about skating these past few months have been really dull. I'm ready to reset.

JP

One time I saw Andy Anderson & Dan Corrigan rubbing weiner's together

Monstertruckguy58

Thanks dude

Henry Degnan

skater of the year is just skater of november

Felix Fitton

Can we get another run of the try me t shirts

Ethan

So true

Haroldo

Sure, I agree with you and I changed a bit my comment, it isn't about 01 repost which is not so relevant when you compare to the existing colabs, it is just another small piece in this image Thrasher is building towards fashion, getting closer to Supreme, Lacoste, etc

beatrice_fs_overcrook

Do u think Thrasher should just make the SOTY runs official like put an intro and make them only able to submit one

Juuls4school

I think you people are reaching with the repost stuff. Thrasher and supreme have collaborated on clothes before and including once last year. If a repost mattered that much why not give a supreme skater soty in the same year that they release clothing together to get even more money?

Kharyan

What’s your opinion on bondoing over safety bumps designed to protect the blind from walking out into train tracks. Or for that matter altering any sort of safety precautions designed to protect more vulnerable people just for the sake of getting a trick on the spot?

Jawn Shanahan

With all the racist posts you've been making have you considered changing your name to 1488 nipples

Skatepark Reality

You ever get imposter syndrome? I get it pretty bad and the thing that helps the most is eating shit during a session. Skateboarding makes you earn it

alex baig

idk if i remember this correctly but didn't someone decline to be soty in 2018? and then after that tyshawn got the soty in 2018. so it could be possible that evan declined to be soty in 2018. i could also just be remembering this incorrectly

calims

Read this in ur voice

Jeremy vanlandingham

On the same line you mentioned in the video "my brain is working conspiratorially" it would be cool to look into certain things: - How much Tyshawn was a better choice financially to Thrasher, considering that Supreme repost (and constant colabs/connections) and how much Thrasher is leaning towards fashion - Some quick analysis on much much Thrasher is profiting from magazines/videos/adds VS merch/fashion collabs could support this theory 😈

beatrice_fs_overcrook

Spot on, if all of this was to promote his brands, his attitude + shitty designs didn't got a lot of respect in the skate community.

beatrice_fs_overcrook

Should SOTY be more like a life achievement awards or "hall of fame" (one that we care) so people like Tyshawn don't need to go back and hack the game to win multiple times? There are people counting SOTY like NBA titles, and it started this jock vibe about winning and others loosing. But as mentioned in the video, it is about contribution to a culture/physical activity, and not defeating others. And from my point of view, Tyshawn's contribution and recognition was already made, it was time to recognise other people's contributions.

beatrice_fs_overcrook

Should people be allowed to win more than once? - Danny Way won twice with 13 years of difference, so 2 different skate eras, and on the second one he invented the Mega ramp - Chris Cole won twice with 4 years of difference, even though he was demolishing street skating, already felt like the same flavour too soon. - Tyshawn with also 4 years of difference definitely felt the same flavour with even less variety of tricks and skating. If SOTY is about to look back and "show to the world what skateboarding is about" according to Phelps, skateboarding in 2018 and 2022 definitely wasn't about jumping trash cans and flat gaps on the same spots.

beatrice_fs_overcrook

Lets see some of that new footage you got

Bagmanjo

he clearly plateaued tricks and effort wise a long time ago due to partying like millions of others. he just gets the pretty boi pass I guess

j2theohnoez

he defs did it on a stream, just watch them all anyway cos theyre good and youll eventually stumble across it. not sure if its listed on the stream title description thing

brad

evan the goat, i remember that year being a lot of contenders and despite having a great part in blessed i was prettt surprised tyshawn won over the others louie, foy, evan etc. this year i think most people thought nyjah would win just cos how could u not give it to him, it is curious as to why tyshawn won again. not saying he didnt deserve it cos he did do some gnarly shit but the nyjah argument is pretty strong. i also wonder if it has anything to do with his planned three soty wins he said somewhere, a bit of a stretch but yeah it seems random as hell he won i genuinely wonder if supreme had some influence over thrasher's choice. i wonder who phelps would have chosen this year...

brad

The first year I remember being annoyed with SOTY was 2012. David Gonzalez won for a part that was primarily back boardslides, 50-50s, and kickflips into back boards or 50-50s... In my hazy recollection at least. Figgy should have won imo. His bake and destroy part is full of switch handrail tricks that pushed what was possible... and he switch bs flipped the triple set that tyshawn would later switch back heel in 2018. That was the beginning of my disillusionment with Thrasher and where I think SOTY began to decline. I also was bummed tyshawn won in 2018 because Evan Smith was eating a bunch of mushrooms and doing the craziest shit literally all year long. Just curious what your opinion is of some previous SOTYs. 2012, 2018 or any year where you felt like thrasher chose a winner for questionable reasons?

SlickRick69

His footage was absolutely bananas, and I know for a fact he wasn’t in the top 2 so I don’t think they were ever going to give it to him

1

No I don’t know for sure, but that’s what makes the most sense to me. I shouldn’t have said it so matter of fact in my video

1

this is my biggest question. he says it as if it's been confirmed by thrasher

Dan -

What do you guys think about multiple awards? 🤔 I don't know if it would work or not.

Bob Cat

trolls will hijack the vote for burberry erry

Dan -

If the soty win was based on politics then it's really only devalued the whole thing and Tyshawn having two wins now. It's about skateboarding. Pretty rich for company that can't seem to get over that lame 666 shit for some reason.

Bob Cat

do you think Tyshawn winning SOTY in 2018 affected his campaign in 2022? personally i don’t think he should’ve won this year but it feels like people were biased against him maybe due to him already being a winner and people weren’t ready to place Tyshawn in the same echelon of skateboarding achievement as Danny Way and Chris Cole?

Show us ya Stussy

How do we feel about doing movie/book/art reviews in 2023? I feel like you’re starting to max out on the depth of analysis available for skateboarding so art criticism could be a good muscle for you to build up

Sleeping in Jeans

One thing that hasn’t been said by anyone on any skate podcast or platform is that there used to be multiple skate magazines that had their own awards and award shows. So if a skater didn’t get SOTY, then they may give video part of the year by skateboarder mag..Readers choice by transworld mag..they even had years best AM…SLAP magazine had their own stuff before it was just the message board..when everything went digital (Instagram/YouTube etc.) that’s when the skate mags eventually went out. Dylan rieder got video part of the year 2014 by the skateboard mag for his part in cherry..obviously well deserved but he didn’t get skater of the year. I was hyped he got something for how hard he killed that part but what I’m trying to say is that there needs to be more awards and if so then SOTY wouldn’t be cared about as much..or at least if the right person won it which seems to not have happen in awhile lol

Ty

I don’t think November was my best month, there are a lot of archived streams though. I think October was pretty good. I can’t guarantee every month I’ll do well. if you want to unsubscribe that is totally cool you can always check back in later if you’re curious, everything will still be here

1

its not there

Oliver Oravec

check the vod doc he watched the whole thing on a stream

brad

he gonna have a nose injury soon from all the cocaine

brad

T funk should’ve won best style to watch

Sam

I think he’s injured, probably still recovering

1

will sean pablo ever have a part again? his play dead output was abysmal and it seems like the only clips i ever see of him are mid curb manuals or a wallie or some shit, what happened to the rumoured solo part he was filming with bill?

brad

feels like you've been uninspired on the patreon, i understand burnout but it seems like you've been lost for a while. I guess my question is what am i paying for any more?

charles

i find mfs like u really interesting bro. i ain't gon lie this spot is kinda like a personal thing to me you get what i'm saying. it's just like a personal vibe u feel me. what's really crazy is you wouldn't even wanted this if u ain't see me post it u get what i'm saying. i don't even think u really hungry like that tbh bro. so go ahead find yourself something to eat bro go open your fridge bro this not the fridge this the internet u get what i'm saying.

Jimbo

Who is your early 2023 SOTY candidates? KB?

friedtothemarrow

how big is it

yoloboy

Fuck marry kill: new york george pee, louie elliot iphone slut, rob dyrdek’s character from street dreams.

daniel

I like the MVP idea, I’m assuming this will be part of the “end of the year” awards like last year. Give spanky the fifth spot for his video earlier this year; it would also be interesting how the votes would differ between platforms, I.e. YT, Patron, IG

Barefoot Bomber

How do you know jah is being excluded for SA allegations? It makes sense but do you know that for sure?

Cole

I hope 2023 might be the year that people stop giving as much of a shit about SOTY. It's just starting to feel like politics and seems to keep getting more lame as the years go by. I'm also tired of seeing good skating predominantly in the last 2 months of the year. Give me that shit year round.

Dan

how to feel better fr

luke p

Louie has permanent 2014 vibes.

Trust

Do you think it would be advantageous for nyjah to a create a competitor to thrashers SOTY?

Hunter Mansson

I think tyshawn is not that cool of a skater and full of himself. Him winning soty is just gonna make his personality worse and make him more cringe. Maybe I got something wrong but that’s how I feel.

Dodgerammed420

I like that everyone gets so hyped on soty but every single person nominated could have won & it would be like "yeah I get it"

WBalls

imo the fact that tfunk put out 2 banger parts with no fat, sick tricks in other people's videos, historic nbd, and didn't have a calculated cynical 4 part campaign made him the most appealing soty pick, and if he won maybe it would've ended the multipart pandering that soty has come to be. i still think louie is generally the best/most skilled skateboarder out of all of them but gotta admit even he put out his share of filler this year.

Kevvo

T funk is my soty and thrasher is selling out more every year imo. I wouldn't have been mad if Louie won either though

Frontside shitslide

It seems like the general public is sketched out by thrasher. Do u think that eventually they will die down and maybe jankens or freeskate will be the new norm?

Jake

Do you think the fact that tyshawn is associated with supreme influenced him getting skater of the year due to the fact that supreme reposted it and that gave thrasher more exposure than they would have gotten by picking a different company?

Frontside shitslide

Spanky the real soty

Lochie Donovan

How will tj winning soty affect lebrons legacy?

Lukie Stricker

What’s the better sauce barbecue or buffalo?

Sebastian Magnia

Do you think SOTY should be based on the peoples votes primarily? I just don’t see the point in even casting a vote if it means nothing. Why not let the people decide?

Haroldo

have you seen 10C41 is still milking vincent nava? they're still selling boards with his face on them, and i think they got a body double for their video "MIDDLE SCKOOL". it's a scene towards the end of everyone celebrating nava going pro but the guy they’re celebrating doesn't face the camera once.

mac

do you think that soty should be soley voted on by the people (through a poll) or will that lead to more problems (eg. meme like winners etc.)

Comrade Deez

you’ve been filming for your part?

DanTheMan4

Good video. Solid critiques on thrasher

Anthony

PLZ REVIEW NEW GX1000 VID

Henry Degnan

Who was your soty?

Rene


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