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Beatrice Pro (Wat 2 heck)


Beatrice Pro (Wat 2 heck)

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Yeah he spoke on that during the Olympics vid he put out a lil while back.

Ryan Spivey

I’m not gonna read through all these comment so maybe this has already been said, but Dill even says in his epicly latered that he loves that his riders will go to Paris or some shit and stay for an extra month, not even skating, just partying. He brings that up right after talking about his alcohol and vicodin addiction that caused him to have a life endangering incident and puked blood all over his apartment. How he can’t see that he’s enabling these kids is mind boggling.

Ryan Spivey

Feel like I’m taking crazy pills in that I’ve been saying this about Evan Mock for years now. Dude can skate alright but for Christ sake, he does not have a part!

Terrance Davis

I think a slept on aspect is Dill doing this right after Nakel and Tyshawn left. I think that with both of them on the team FA had more of a claim to being a diverse and inclusive company. With them gone, and a few months later turning Beatrice pro, seems to me like he’s trying to save face a bit

Donny Toothpicks

LoL ream got bought out by cumming. These are not real names skateboarding is a psyop

Skatepark Reality

didn't he already mention this in a video? or are you taking the piss here?

sex_champion

hey gifted, wait until you learn the founder of camp woodward as we know it today, Gary Ream, was also the chairman of the USA skateboarding team during the recent scandals.

Eric downing

I will be smoking my spliff thank you very much end of story good bye

Bluntslideofdoom

Also, you can buy her board now, but not Diego's...

Badminton Temper

I think skateboarding has been surprisingly inclusive for a long time now. Even in 2000, everyone was doing it. Rewarding mediocrity because it "means well" to do so is backhanded bullshit and not good for skateboarding.

Badminton Temper

Dear skateboard community, plz stop the D riding and stick to the wood pushing.

Kedrick Bryant

I never saw the drama, that'd be interesting to pick up on, is she off glue? the fuck, dming

Chloe Catastrophe

No I think she rode for glue, and is now pro for there. Was a whole drama around it

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ahhh wait hold up it might've been like fuckin wayyy before I was even aware of her that she had boards on there in like 2016 or whatever.

Chloe Catastrophe

additionally w running glue etc, I think there's been some pretty chill contributions. absolutely biased as I am cherpilled anyway and think the take is valid. you did also mention a while back that fa/hockey whatever are more celebrities than skaters particularly or whatever, and in the same sense this is like buying the clothes that Beatrice may model, but it's a deck for her skate fans, ig.

Chloe Catastrophe

I’m not familiar with her footage to be honest, I referenced her to say that having a pro board with no footage/ video feels like a fart in the wind. She got her first board for there and it came with no footy which felt hollow to me

1

Didn't Cher get a board from there recently but has had heaps of footy in the past?

Chloe Catastrophe

Lonelyassjohn

Patrick Berryman

Go face another blunt, mijo.

Austin Manuel

Sincerely “The Professional”

Nate

Thank you for this vid man. Edgy topic for sure but someone needs to say it. All your points were spot on.

Awesome Ripper

ur not missing much, some slow flatground kickflip and fs 50 shuv out , thats literally it

evan jolley

Don't really follow much of her skating, but was shocked at how affected her style was. That shit is forced way to hard.

Larry David's Prius

Nah fuck that I love you too. And yes yes, if I had to be objective, I do get it Mr. B. I live for the crossroad between discourse and shit talk nail me on the cross daddy <3

Bluntslideofdoom

I can’t wait

1

arguments are normal in a relationship... You don't know what happened and its not your place to tell Joa what to do. Sometimes arguments are not even that deep. And you have to understand Joas point about Beatrice. Making a girl who's skill level is below average even for female skaters now days and turning her pro changes the definition of pro. What even is a pro skater anymore if all you need to do is front 5050s with fake style

Louie Barletta

I'd still hit

Tom Nooke

Hey man, I strongly disagree with you. I love you

1

Dude you need to watch the new John Hill corporate shoe video It’s just him skating by himself with tripod shots and stock music for like 7 minutes straight, super lonely and makes you wonder if he needs to be checked in on

Victoria

Joaaaaa. Skateboarding is tribal mijo. She’s apart of their crew so they’re going to give her a board! That’s it. That’s skateboarding these days. People are going to go out and skate and not film. People are going to pile the fuck out and hopefully clean up at some point. Look the KB being fried thing is just so unrelated. That’s a party life discussion. Beatrice is just a part of Ave and Dills gang! Idk dawg if I had to guess. You probs need to tell your girl friend your sorry for whatever the fuck you said lol

Bluntslideofdoom

If you time the posts, she was probably typing one of the posts at the exact moment new hockey am joe campos who gets maybe half her paycheck was killing himself at the FA skate jam

JP

They should have put a can of beer at the end of a curb so both of them have motivation to skate the jam.

JP

she has posted 6 posts about her pro status too lol shes milkin it

t31m0

ur just mad she can 5050 fs shuv out and u cant

CarharttFinalBoss

some pros used to reject going pro because they feared they weren't ready and would be embarrassed...i guess IG has changed the modes of production of skating so that this is a feasible and in my opinion, disappointing alternative

Lucas

so true

jacob

Seems a little funny that there was a big FA "junk jam" the day after she went pro AF, and neither her or KB could be bothered to get a clip..

Joe Ferruccio

she ate all the chikkin

Shane

You’re fucking killing it right now dude.

Austin Manuel

hit the nail right on the head : )

brotherberg

as much as i love to see people who look like me suceed i fully agree with you on this one joa

humanbeing2002

its just that sociopathic narcissistic people are rewarded in this world, and good people arent as much

evan jolley

Welcome back Mr. Hater

stonyhawk666

yeah, seems like getting turned pro is becoming less and less about actual skill or output. beatrice is a pretty extreme case though... whenever she has a clip in a supreme video, it's kind of jarring. like all the amazing, handsome boy skaters are ollieing over trash cans, grinding the longest ledges. their wheels almost losing traction from the extreme speeds they're going. and then beatrice comes along and does a fs 5050 fs pop shuvit on a curb going 5 mph. i wish her all the best

angcient_rock

I think an FA vid is dropping in October I think Vincent has a part but idk about KB

Zac Signorino

FA should start a line of kid sized boards called Freakn’ Awesome

C

Getting white male guilt vibes from ave and dill. I think this will benefit the company short term but it will not age well. Turning her pro theyre saying this is the level we think black women pros can realistically achieve while we're already seeing that isn't true. This really reminds me of the TK situation at baker. He was turned pro for his personality and barely put out any parts despite making tons of money with pro shoes and great sponsors. The inflated ego didn't end too well for him when the marketability dried up and it's impossible to go back to a regular life/job when you get enabled like that.

JP

That she is. She’s workin on stuff currently.

Reid Adams

Jk

Skatepark Reality

When I get thrasher I rip out the devil ads and the beer and titty stuff . I also rip out her ads because I think she comports herself so poorly on a skateboard and off

Skatepark Reality

Ariana is sick. Excited to see what's up in coming for her

Hunter L

Shout out to my good friend, Ariana Spencer (Foundation) who is accelerating the boundaries for herself and skateboarders. Just an incredible person in every aspect. Anyways, Beatrice is going at her own pace. Regardless of pace setting. There’s a plentiful amount of female skateboarders pushing boundaries in their own right. The decision of Beatrice turning pro just seems like a with the times, rushed, sort of decision. She is good, but I agree, she isn’t pushing herself in a more difficult sense with her abilities, which she totally could, and I’d love to see that. Hopefully more women can get the shine that they rightfully deserve as well. Still pretty cool that she has a pro board.

Reid Adams

They not gonna like this one big bro

Bernard

I think it’s worth noting that FA is ran by DILL while Hockey is more or less ran by Benny. At least from what I got out of listening to interviews and stuff. Also for what it’s worth Beatrice has been recovering from an injury for the past 6-8 months. So I’m expecting to see some kind of footage soon.

Zach N

It's like when Baker gave Shane Heyl a board.. loyalty pays off

Joe Ferruccio

I have a feeling that she is getting a fatter check than him too

Chrizzler

Oops hahaha, can't say I've ever seen it, will have to give that a watch soon

Rob Symington

She bought a whole pallet of Beatrice pro models on Joa's American Express

clayton

FA has been one of my favourite companies since Cherry but it's now for what it was rather than what it is. The three musketeers TJ, Nak & KB at the height of their powers was some other worldly shit. That team got me back into skating, no doubt. Didn't know Beatrice turned pro till I clicked on this post, just having spent the last 2 hours at my local sweating through an FA tee (really fuckin trying!). Beatrice seemed sick when she came out but I've been waiting 3 or 4 years to see the front 5-0 or Smith shuv. The development is not happening. Maybe 2-3 times a week I think about KBs rumoured 8 mins of footage, again my hope dwindles. Maybe I should cop a Louie board while it's still a thing. How do they balance having footage machines (AVE, Louie) in the same team as some of the laziest fuckers in the game? I genuinely hope we get hit with that FA full length and are all proved wrong but it seems less and less likely.

Jial

He had a part in Skate More which was in 2005

Dávid Lizom

She from my hometown in lake worth

Owen toth

yeah you're actually capturing the entire "equity vs equality" debate that is constantly being pushed in our faces elsewhere - i think the equitable approach often produces results that frustrate or anger people who worked hard to cultivate their own skills and merits

microwaverr

Common sensed Hater

Oscar Eliasson

I know who she is, I’m saying having someone on your team versus just putting out a graphic with their face are very different things

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Mucho texto

JP

Totally agree with your entire video. I thought the Kevin Bradley/Spanky point was spot-on as well. It's a bit frustrating when you think about what other people had to do to go pro, male or female. I feel bad for someone like Marisa Dal Santo or Alexis Sablone watching this and thinking "this is all I had to do to go pro? Why I did I almost kill myself to get my name on a board?" which also the same standard every male skater also had to meet before them. I don't think it's healthy to encourage female/LGBT/POC skateboarders to get into skateboarding by phoning it in and just trying to dress cool. If there are haters and bigots out there leading to polarization in skateboarding, who say you can't skate because you're [insert marginalized group here], how does that fix the problem to prove them right and becoming pro by not being good at skating? I think the best way to foster acceptance across the board, for the long term, in skateboarding is by marginalized groups more opportunities to meet the standard of what it means to be good at skateboarding. Not by obliterating the standard altogether. I know skateboarding is kind of a different industry, but think about how the argument carries over anywhere else. Would you want a lawyer representing you in court that didn't have to pass the bar exam because society wanted to increase representation among lawyers? Would you want someone working on your car who wasn't 25% as good as any other mechanic but they just looked really cool when they did it? If your argument is "well skateboarding is more about image and culture than other fields", okay fine, should James Jebbia have to give designer jobs to Supreme to people who aren't as experienced or talented as any other graduate from The New School just because they grew up poor or marginalized? Should Supreme start having a decrease in the quality of their output just to lower the standards in the name of "giving people a chance"? How would that help anyone? Shouldn't we all want to see people succeed and be given the chance to meet the standard for skill that exists already? Wouldn't that be so much more satisfying on the whole to see disenfranchised people succeed at the same level as everyone else?

Sleeping in Jeans

Chloe doesn't even skate she's an actor

miss misery

I think this type of problem will self-correct soon enough now that we're seeing more women in skateboarding. But in the meantime, I fully expect to see this pattern continue where skaters turn pro having more interviews than real footage.

clayton

gifted rant

Alexander lee

Soooo, what was the fight about with the gf?

Joey Rodriguez

In the bigger history of skateboarding this isn't a new phenomenon. Lots of dudes made a lot of money on board sales in the 80s because of a cool graphic and occasional photo/ad showing their cool haircut... maybe you had to do well as an am first but the kids buying boards didn't care about that. Likely that model only ever went away because the 90s were so dead that you had to try a lot harder to get noticed.

coliseum

That’s very interesting, explains a lot

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All the talk re not skating enough/enabling people like KB defo comes from Dill. If you look at his career, he stopped putting footage out after the Mosaic vid in 2003, then basically went on drug/alcohol benders for the next 5 years, didn't skate, still got paid, and pretty much brags about it now. In his Epicly Later'd he praises the team for staying in other countries for months at time, cause "That's what I did". I had a lot of respect for Dill/FA, but it's diminishing now as time goes on

Rob Symington

after having some time to reflect on it nak and tyshawn definitely made the right call jumping ship and starting their own thing, turning beatrice pro feels like dill and AVEs hollow attempt to fill the gap created by them, even though FA has like 15 pros

richud

There should be a minimum average speed limit you have to skate before turning pro.

JP

she acts super hard on twitter, it's kind of goofy

tristen schern

dill went limp

Josh M

LMAO

tristen schern

The zumiez line nails it on the head. FA is too core to sell to CCS, Zumiez, etc but they'll put a random celeb on a deck and someone who's been skating for 10 years and hasn't pushed themselves to leave the most basic obstacles and tricks... feels like Dill is creating the company he wished he rode for back when he bragged about going to the hospital for puking blood cuz he was partying too hard.

Ian

The skaters of the 80s, who turned pro because of contests, demos and signings, used to hate on the street skaters in the 90s turning pro solely off video parts. I see Beatrice turning pro more related to the 80s model where it was a decision because she is showing face a lot, influencing new skaters and marketing the brands she rides for through her social presence, which could be compared to a demo or signing. I always view pro skater more in line with professional artist than professional athlete, which I know many people would disagree with.

Dylan Roeder

Everyone has influences that affect the way they skate, but I think Beatrice never fully grew out of an embarrassing phase. Which sure if she’s stuck skating like that now then that’s how she skates but I think a more self aware individual would’ve grown out of it, and as a result I think that part of her style is noob. (imo)

1

at what point does fake steez just become the way someone skates…? also; i agree with most of your points. when my friend sent the ig post to me i immediately said she doesn’t deserve to be pro. but, i’m still going to buy the board. mainly because as a black skateboarder, i enjoy skating other black skateboarders pro boards.

jordan

Agree.

Gabriel Snyder

Well said. Solid rant

Flemmy

u really put the hater in giftedhater in this video

village idiot

if this leaks ur done for

stefanmaybe

I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics Diego Todd is going through

Trust

Not familiar but that would just be a guest pro model or something. Beatrice is actually on the pro team now

1

KB does everything but get footage smh

friedtothemarrow

fa hockey just did a pretty big lay off and then they do this

luke p

Didn't FA give Chloe Svengiy a deck, same thing right?

Joe Ferruccio

Definitely was confused about the decision to make her pro with no part but it’s a double edged sword for sure

Anders Rosengreen

does this apply for everyone

luke p

No pressure sexy

1

ok i’ll stick with the ten😘

Aden

There’s a discord server/ I’m doing weekly audience interaction videos for $10 tier/ I’ll let you spit on me if we ever meet irl

1

thank god i can stave off depression for 30 minutes

the Boy with the Black Dog

what’s the difference between the 5 and 10 dollar tier?

Aden

Jason Dill is out of his fucking mind company is dog shit

QogDotZip


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